SH5 V1.01 Ships, aircraft, and submarines

[Pablo]

Hi!

Here are some of the ships, aircraft, and submarines in V1.01 as released:

United States
Capital Ships
Texas-class battleship
North Carolina-class battleship
Northampton-class heavy cruiser
Brooklyn-class light cruiser

Escort carriers
Bogue-class
Long Island-class

Antisubmarine vessels
Clemson-class destroyer
Fletcher-class destroyer
Somers-class destroyer
Buckley-class destroyer escort
Flower-class corvette

Amphibious Assault
Landing Ship, Tank (LST)
Amphibious Group Command Ship

Tankers
Cimmaron-class (T3) tanker
Ranger-class (Royal Navy underway fleet oiler) tanker

Cargo ships
C1-B "medium merchant"
C2-S-B1 "large merchant" (C2 cargo ship)
Hog Island "Type A" freighter
Liberty (EC2) merchant ship
Victory (VC2) merchant ship
NS3A1 "small merchant" (coastal cargo ship)

Aircraft
“Torpedo plane” – appears to be a Brewster SB2A “Buccaneer” dive bomber
“Fighter” – appears to be a Brewster F2A “Buffalo”
“Heavy Bomber” – a cross between a Boeing B-17 "Flying Fortress" and a Consolidated B-24D "Liberator"
“Patrol Flying boat” – a 3-engined mutation of a Consolidated PB5Y “Catalina”
United Kingdom
Capital Ships
King George V-class battleship
Nelson-class battleship
Queen Elizabeth-class battleship
Royal Sovereign-class battleship
HMS Hood (battlecruiser)
Renown-class battlecruiser
Kent-class heavy cruiser
Dido-class light cruiser

Aircraft Carriers
Glorious-class
Illustrious-class

Escort Carriers
Archer-class
Attacker-class

Armed Merchant Cruiser
HMS Rawalpindi

Antisubmarine vessels
A-class destroyer
B-class destroyer
R-class destroyer
Town-class destroyer
Tribal-class destroyer
V&W-class destroyer
Black Swan-class sloop
Flower-class corvette
Armed Trawler

Amphibious Assault
Troop Transport
Middleton-class Attack Transport
Amphibious Group Command Ship

Cargo ships
C1-B "medium merchant"
C2-S-B1 "large merchant" (C2 cargo ship)
Hog Island "Type A" freighter
Liberty (EC2) merchant ship
Victory (VC2) merchant ship
NS3A1 "small merchant" (coastal cargo ship)

Submarines
U-class

Aircraft
De Havilland Mosquito Mk. XVIII ("Tsetse") fighter-bomber
Bristol Beaufort torpedo bomber
Fairey Swordfish torpedo bomber
Fairey Fulmar fighter-bomber
Avro Anson patrol bomber
“Patrol Flying boat” – a 3-engined mutation of a Consolidated PB5Y "Catalina"
"Search Plane" - Supermarine Walrus seaplane
Short Sunderland patrol plane
Germany
Capital Ships
Bismarck-class battleship
Schleswig-Holstein (Deutschland-class) pre-dreadnought battleship
Scharnhorst-class battlecruiser
Deutschland-class "pocket battleship"
Admiral Hipper-class heavy cruiser
Emden-class light cruiser
K-class light cruiser

Auxiliary Cruisers
Komet
Penguin

Antisubmarine vessels
Type 34 destroyer
Armed Trawler

Cargo ships
C1-B "medium merchant"
Liberty (EC2) merchant ship
NS3A1 "small merchant" (coastal cargo ship)

Replenishment
Karl Peters-class S-boat tender
Dithmarschen-class underway replenishment ship

Submarines
Type VIIA
Type VIIB
Type VIIC
Type VIIC/41

Aircraft
Junkers Ju-88 bomber (with Ju-188 pilot compartment)
Junkers Ju-290 bomber
Junkers Ju-87 dive bomber
Messerschmitt Bf-109 fighter
Arado Ar-96 patrol plane
****e-Wulf FW-200 patrol plane (that's "F-o-c-k-e - W-u-l-f") ;)
Blohm und Voss BV-138 patrol plane
ItalyCapital Ships
Littorio-class battleship
Trento-class heavy cruiser
Di Giussano-class light cruiser
Montecuccoli-class light cruiser

Antisubmarine vessels
Soldati-class destroyer
Armed trawler

Cargo ships
Large Italian Liner

Aircraft
Savoia-Marchetti S.M. 79 bomber
Macchi C.200 fighter

[CCIP]

****e-Wulf FW-200 patrol plane

:haha:

[Frederf]

A million battleships... two craft smaller than a destroyer. KEEP THE QUALITY COMIN' UBI.

[iambecomelife]

Based on the types of merchants included tonnage scores will be too high. The Liberty, Victory, and Cimarron were very large merchants for their time; the C-1 and C-2 were quite big too. In real life, even oceangoing convoys would sometimes have few ships over 6,000 GRT. Coastal convoys often had nothing but merchants of 500 - 2,000 GRT.

http://uboat.net/allies/ships/photos/nw/arcturus.jpg

http://uboat.net/allies/ships/photos/nw/cadmus.jpg

http://uboat.net/allies/ships/photos/nw/corvus.jpg

[CCIP]

Yeah. I'm surprised at that actually since SHIV did a much better job in that regard - they didn't have "sea trucks" but they did include a few good classes of small merchant/transport ships of lower tonnage. Here the tonnage range is definitely more in the vein of SHIII's defaults or even higher. When I play, I just try to put it down to wartime over-claims.

Frederf: not sure what your particular beef is there. It's been mostly the same in the previous two SH games and frankly escort-wise, the list is pretty adequate if not in any way impressive. The merchant list however could use a bit of beefing up, and I would have rather seen more of those than battleships.

[alexradu89]

I don't understand :06: did they add some new ships in the patch ?

[HundertzehnGustav]

“Torpedo plane” – appears to be a Curtiss SB2C “Helldiver” dive bomber
“Fighter” – appears to be a Brewster F2A “Buffalo”
“Heavy Bomber” – appears to be the results of mating a B-17 with a B-24D
“Patrol Flying boat” – a 3-engined mutation of a Consolidated PB5Y “Catalina”



Negative, the Torpedo Bomber gotta be a Brewster Type Torpedo Bomber.
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/usa/aircraft/bomber/brewster-sb2a-buccaneer/brewster-sb2a-bermuda-mk-i-01.jpg


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1401/1473161059_e552343041.jpg
Brewster SB2A Buccaneer1 Brewster SB2A-2 Buccaneer1 Type Naval or land based reconnaissance bomber1 Crew 21 Engine (Type) Wright R-2600-8 Double Cyclone1 Cylinders Radial 141 Cooling HP 1,7001 Propeller blades 31 Dimensions Span 47'1
14.32 m1 Length 39' 2"1
11.94 m1 Height 15' 5"1
6.7 m1 Wing area Weight Empty 9,924 lb1
4,502 kg1 Maximum load 14,289 lb1
6,481 kg1 Performance Speed @ sea level 259 mph1
417 kph1 Speed @ 12,000'
3,658 m 274 mph1
441 kph1 Cruising speed 161 mph1
259 kph1 Climb 2,080'/minute1
634 m/minute1 Service ceiling 24,900'1
7,590 m1 Range 1,675 miles1
2,695 km1 Armament Wings 2: 0.3" MG1 Nose 2: 0.5" MG1 Rear dorsal turret 2: 0.3" MG1 Bombs 1,000 lb1
454 kg1

[Pablo]

Negative, the Torpedo Bomber gotta be a Brewster Type Torpedo Bomber.
Hi!

Your point is well-taken, and I have updated the original post. Thanks! :)

Pablo

[dize]

Yeah.... The merchant list however could use a bit of beefing up, and I would have rather seen more of those than battleships.

i cant believe this. this is probably one of the top 3 bummers of sh5 for me yet. do we actualy get less merchants in sh5 than in sh3 and sh4?!

[Pablo]

Based on the types of merchants included tonnage scores will be too high. The Liberty, Victory, and Cimarron were very large merchants for their time; the C-1 and C-2 were quite big too. In real life, even oceangoing convoys would sometimes have few ships over 6,000 GRT. Coastal convoys often had nothing but merchants of 500 - 2,000 GRT.
Well,

It sounds like someone has their work cut out for them.... :O:

[sergei]

do we actualy get less merchants in sh5 than in sh3 and sh4?!

I'm afraid so. Yeah sure, the nice big shiny capital ships look lovely, but I am going to be spending 90% of my time hunting merchants.
A quick look in the museum shows the Brits have 2 tanker types and 6 merchant types. Sure they do look good, but there's just not enough of 'em. I was hoping for at least double these numbers.

[Steeltrap]

It's an inevitable consequence of appealing to a mass-market that neither knows nor cares what the reality was when it comes to the stats on the GRT of ships sunk by U-boats in WWII.

Plus there's the pressure of racking up big scores in the mission system.

It shouldn't surprise anyone. SH3 was the same.

[HundertzehnGustav]

Hi!

Your point is well-taken, and I have updated the original post. Thanks! :)

Pablo

Thanks Pablo.
The planes are a Beech to look at but looking on how the Panelm lines are under the wings of said "torpedo Bomber", i figuted it had to be the Brewster type.

Would love to hear from the responsible creators if i am right tho... looking at the "catalina" gives me the heebyjeebies.:haha:

[oscar19681]

"Heavy Bomber” – a cross between a Boeing B-17 "Flying Fortress" and a Consolidated B-24D"

Dont tell me this means the 2 bombers are merged into one plane in 3-d right?

[Schunken]

Unfortunately.... Yes...

They ask "American Choppers" for this custom plane :03:

(I think there is a pic in our "screenshot thread....)

Andreas

[mobucks]

the hybrid models had increased fuel economy due to hydrogen cells and battery power.:yeah:

[HundertzehnGustav]

Oscar... it is because if they would do a Boeing, the Boeing company would want big buck royalties.
If they did a Grumman Avenger, the same...

I saw that happen in IL-2 some time... american companies wanting money and **** like that.

Therefor the game producers resolve to include "similar" planes to those represented.

Thats the reason that american long range search planes look very Lancaster-esque...

Its a mission for us.

[oscar19681]

Unfortunately.... Yes...

They ask "American Choppers" for this custom plane :03:

(I think there is a pic in our "screenshot thread....)

Andreas

OMG! Who comes up with these ideas! I mean just leave one of the bombers out insted of making some sort of cross over !

[oscar19681]

Oscar... it is because if they would do a Boeing, the Boeing company would want big buck royalties.
If they did a Grumman Avenger, the same...

I saw that happen in IL-2 some time... american companies wanting money and **** like that.

Therefor the game producers resolve to include "similar" planes to those represented.

Thats the reason that american long range search planes look very Lancaster-esque...

Its a mission for us.

Now i know we never saw a b-17 simulation after B17 the mighty eight!
Oh well i guess i can live with it in sh-5 because i,m at 70 meters by the time they even get close to me anyway.

[Schunken]

Ahhh B-17.... but the meighty eight was also full of bugs (engine management) :oops:

(Sorry for go a little OT)


Andreas

[AG124]

Quite disappointed with that list; mostly with smaller, generic merchants and escort craft. SHIV did have a few shortcomings in ships rosters (the fleet carrier and coastal vessel categories for Japan could have used a few more ships), but it did at least provide a good selection of ocean going merchants. This is a step backwards; this merchant roster is almost as bad as the pitiful vanilla SHIII roster. Only two tanker classes? No coastal vessels? Only one type of freighter under 5,000 GRT?

It is good to see a great er selection of UK capital ships, although I wonder why the existing SHIII Fiji Class CL didn't make it into the final cut (I realize the 3d model needed some improvements, but the basic model did exist). The same applies to the USS Wasp ("Early War Fleet Carrier") from SHIV.

Also, there were some ships from the earlier screenshots that I don't see listed here; the aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal, and the troop transport Queen Mary, just to name two examples. And no, they were not renamed clones, but actual, accurate, individual models. Are these 'unlockables' (in the vein of arcade games like Battlestations Pacific, which I would never consider playing), or are they special extras which come only with the more expensive "Gold" version of the game. Either way, it is a disappointment to see them apaprently excluded from the basic version of the game.:-?

I was thinking of buying this game, despite the draconian DRM, but the more I see, the less impressed I am (especially since I personally have no interest in detailed crew interactions). The inability to command a Type IX was the first blow (even more than the 1943 end date), but this poor ship roster is the final nail in the coffin for me. I won't criticize anyone else for enjoying this game of course, and I won't spam my discontent over multiple threads, but I think I'll pass on a Silent Hunter title for the first time in my life.

[cardiff]

These two are missing fromt he game

Ark Royal

http://www.gamestar.de/index.cfm?pid=6&pk=91510&fk=2097150

Queen Mary

http://www.gamestar.de/index.cfm?pid=6&pk=91510&fk=2097176

[iambecomelife]

Quite disappointed with that list; mostly with smaller, generic merchants and escort craft. SHIV did have a few shortcomings in ships rosters (the fleet carrier and coastal vessel categories for Japan could have used a few more ships), but it did at least provide a good selection of ocean going merchants. This is a step backwards; this merchant roster is almost as bad as the pitiful vanilla SHIII roster. Only two tanker classes? No coastal vessels? Only one type of freighter under 5,000 GRT?

It is good to see a great er selection of UK capital ships, although I wonder why the existing SHIII Fiji Class CL didn't make it into the final cut (I realize the 3d model needed some improvements, but the basic model did exist). The same applies to the USS Wasp ("Early War Fleet Carrier") from SHIV.

Also, there were some ships from the earlier screenshots that I don't see listed here; the aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal, and the troop transport Queen Mary, just to name two examples. And no, they were not renamed clones, but actual, accurate, individual models. Are these 'unlockables' (in the vein of arcade games like Battlestations Pacific, which I would never consider playing), or are they special extras which come only with the more expensive "Gold" version of the game. Either way, it is a disappointment to see them apaprently excluded from the basic version of the game.:-?

I was thinking of buying this game, despite the draconian DRM, but the more I see, the less impressed I am (especially since I personally have no interest in detailed crew interactions). The inability to command a Type IX was the first blow (even more than the 1943 end date), but this poor ship roster is the final nail in the coffin for me. I won't criticize anyone else for enjoying this game of course, and I won't spam my discontent over multiple threads, but I think I'll pass on a Silent Hunter title for the first time in my life.

The HMS Patroclus was also supposed to be included based on some files in the Sea directory. This implies that they wanted to include more ships but ran out of time. Too bad they didn't get to do the Patroclus, because the model would have also made an excellent civilian passenger/cargo ship as well.

http://www.uboat.net/allies/warships/photos/br/hms_patroclus.jpg

[Sailor Steve]

I'm confused.

Ranger-class(T1) tanker
The Ranger class, unless I'm forgetting, wasn't American but British, and certainly no relation to the T1. In fact the 'Small Tanker' in SH3 was the American T1, though not listed as such, and about three times too heavy.

[Pablo]

I'm confused.


The Ranger class, unless I'm forgetting, wasn't American but British, and certainly no relation to the T1. In fact the 'Small Tanker' in SH3 was the American T1, though not listed as such, and about three times too heavy.
Hi there, Sailor!

I took another look, and I believe you are correct: the "Ranger" tanker is a class of Royal Navy fleet oilers that went under names such as Brown Ranger, Blue Ranger, Black Ranger, etc. I'm not sure why it is in the U.S. box, but I expect we'll need to modify that....

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u113/Pablo_001/BrownRanger.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u113/Pablo_001/SH5Img2010-03-04_220947.jpg

Thanks for pointing that out! I have updated the first post.

Pablo

[Nafod81]

I'm confused.


The Ranger class, unless I'm forgetting, wasn't American but British, and certainly no relation to the T1. In fact the 'Small Tanker' in SH3 was the American T1, though not listed as such, and about three times too heavy.

All the rangers I've come across fly British flags.

[JScones]

Looks like the "Ranger" in game also needs to be stretchad a bit. :hmmm:

Quite disappointed with that list; mostly with smaller, generic merchants and escort craft. SHIV did have a few shortcomings in ships rosters (the fleet carrier and coastal vessel categories for Japan could have used a few more ships), but it did at least provide a good selection of ocean going merchants. This is a step backwards; this merchant roster is almost as bad as the pitiful vanilla SHIII roster. Only two tanker classes? No coastal vessels? Only one type of freighter under 5,000 GRT?
But on the upside, we're guaranteed some awesome tonnage figures. :yeah:

:shifty: