View Full Version : Depth Under Keel
Michal788
03-01-10, 08:52 AM
Is that feature in sh5?
oscar19681
03-01-10, 09:08 AM
I dont have the game utill the 4th. But i think someone who did have the game that this feature was missing.
Bilge_Rat
03-01-10, 09:11 AM
no, I have not found it yet.
Ok I was going to ask if the type VII even had an echolot in real life, but The Google told me yes.
"U-574 (Type VIIC) was stated to use two kinds of echolots. The one used in depths up to 300 metres, graduated in metres, indicates directly on a depth gauge, is operated electrically, and can only be used vertically. The second echolot has no limit for depth; it operates acoustically, and is also capable of being used vertically."
Decoman
03-01-10, 09:52 AM
From watchinig movies and reading books (Tom Clancy) :D I have learned that a modern submarine might ping a target to get its range, but the sub would in the same process reveal themselves to others listening in the area.
So I am wondering if both of the echolod mentioned here, would disclose the presence of the submarine to others when used to get the depth under keel value.
no, I have not found it yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTHCwU9rUdY
Made me doubt and you made me sure
One step forward and two steps back
Nobody gets too far like that
One step forward and two steps back
This kind of dance can never last
:roll:
Michal788
03-01-10, 01:36 PM
From CCIP mod.
Ctrl+D - Report Depth Under Keel.
Yep it works, just add the command.
Michal788
03-01-10, 01:45 PM
Yep it works, just add the command.
Ok but without that Commands MOD it is impossible to ping the depth?
oh, hmmm i see what your saying, no i havent found the dial on the boat or an icon to click
Michal788
03-01-10, 01:50 PM
Maybe it is an option for the 4th lvl from the Navigator man?
I dont know.
SteamWake
03-01-10, 01:54 PM
Maybe it is an option for the 4th lvl from the Navigator man?
I dont know.
Gawd, you would think they would have 'taught' a basic skill in school to the man before they put em on your boat :haha:
frau kaleun
03-01-10, 02:07 PM
Gawd, you would think they would have 'taught' a basic skill in school to the man before they put em on your boat :haha:
"What's our depth under keel, obersteuermann?"
"Er... uh..."
"The depth under our keel, mensch. What is it?"
"Well, I... uh... you see, I was sick that day, Herr Kaleun..."
"Verdammt noch mal... fine, c'mere and let me pat you on the bum. There. How's your mother doing? Still living in Hamburg? That's nice. Now try some of Olaf's magic soup..."
"Ja-WOHL, Herr Kaleun! Depth under keel is... 183 METERS!"
SteamWake
03-01-10, 02:10 PM
"What's our depth under keel, obersteuermann?"
"Er... uh..."
"The depth under our keel, mensch. What is it?"
"Well, I... uh... you see, I was sick that day, Herr Kaleun..."
"Verdammt noch mal... fine, c'mere and let me pat you on the bum. There. How's your mother doing? Still living in Hamburg? That's nice. Now try some of Olaf's magic soup..."
"Ja-WOHL, Herr Kaleun! Depth under keel is... 183 METERS!"
Was that rats ear soup level 3?
There see he just needed a little coddeling !
Michal788
03-01-10, 02:14 PM
:rotfl2:
You guys are funny!:haha:
Platapus
03-01-10, 02:17 PM
Ok I was going to ask if the type VII even had an echolot in real life, but The Google told me yes.
Man I need new glasses for these old eyes. The first time I read this, I thought you were referring to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocelot
(rubbing eyes) Google told you that the Type VII had a leopard on board.:o
I really need to get my eyes checked out. :doh:
Webster
03-01-10, 02:18 PM
From watchinig movies and reading books (Tom Clancy) :D I have learned that a modern submarine might ping a target to get its range, but the sub would in the same process reveal themselves to others listening in the area.
So I am wondering if both of the echolod mentioned here, would disclose the presence of the submarine to others when used to get the depth under keel value.
yes it would but it was used when you werent around ships to detect you or if they already had you located you might use it to sit on the bottom without "hitting" it and sinking yourself
it wasnt done willy nilly and think of it like surfacing, you make sure its safe before you do it like in setting up an attack, before the enemy is in range, you locate where the bottom is so if you need to go deep to evade after the attack you know your limits
frau kaleun
03-01-10, 02:23 PM
Was that rats ear soup level 3?
There see he just needed a little coddeling !
That reminds me... d'you think anyone's made the sonar dude cry yet?
frau kaleun
03-01-10, 02:26 PM
Man I need new glasses for these old eyes. The first time I read this, I thought you were referring to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocelot
(rubbing eyes) Google told you that the Type VII had a leopard on board.:o
I really need to get my eyes checked out. :doh:
"What's our depth under keel, obersteuermann?"
"Er... uh..."
"The depth under our keel, mensch! What is it?"
"I... uh... well, I'm trying, Herr Kaleun, but the ocelot refuses to go in the water without a fight and the medic's running out of iodine."
Westbroek
03-01-10, 02:42 PM
I gotta admit, i thought it was ridiculous to have a hydrophone operator that might cry... but now I really can't wait to ruin his day and have him bawling for home. Hope that doesn't make me a bad guy... :D
SteamWake
03-01-10, 03:31 PM
If they put a soundman on my boat that cant even get a simple depth reading I sure as hell make him cry and send him packin ! :shifty:
Sailor Steve
03-01-10, 08:21 PM
"What's our depth under keel, obersteuermann?"
"Er... uh..."
"The depth under our keel, mensch! What is it?"
"I... uh... well, I'm trying, Herr Kaleun, but the ocelot refuses to go in the water without a fight and the medic's running out of iodine."
:rotfl2:
Stop that! People in the library are looking at me funny!:oops:
frau kaleun
03-01-10, 08:54 PM
:rotfl2:
Stop that! People in the library are looking at me funny!:oops:
I'd think you'd be used to that by now. :O:
Onkel Neal
03-01-10, 09:47 PM
"What's our depth under keel, obersteuermann?"
"Er... uh..."
"The depth under our keel, mensch. What is it?"
"Well, I... uh... you see, I was sick that day, Herr Kaleun..."
"Verdammt noch mal... fine, c'mere and let me pat you on the bum. There. How's your mother doing? Still living in Hamburg? That's nice. Now try some of Olaf's magic soup..."
"Ja-WOHL, Herr Kaleun! Depth under keel is... 183 METERS!"
Brilliant!
frau kaleun
03-01-10, 10:30 PM
Brilliant!
Danke. But I feel I must share some of the credit with the navigator's bum, which I've always considered a source of great inspiration. :O:
Heretic
03-01-10, 10:42 PM
Danke. But I feel I must share some of the credit with the navigator's bum, which I've always considered a source of great inspiration. :O:
Ok. Time to come clean. They modeled the navigator after me.
Drifter
03-01-10, 10:53 PM
"What's our depth under keel, obersteuermann?"
"Er... uh..."
"The depth under our keel, mensch. What is it?"
"Well, I... uh... you see, I was sick that day, Herr Kaleun..."
"Verdammt noch mal... fine, c'mere and let me pat you on the bum. There. How's your mother doing? Still living in Hamburg? That's nice. Now try some of Olaf's magic soup..."
"Ja-WOHL, Herr Kaleun! Depth under keel is... 183 METERS!"
wtf?! Is SH5 a U-boat sim or a fantasy rpg? :arrgh!:
The instrument you referre to I believe is called the echolot (sp). It is an device that is operated by THE NAVIGATOR, not the hydrophone operator.
On the boat it is located above the navigator's position and looks like a black dial with a white concentric ring.
The device was like a small active sonar set, but pointed down. There was no head set like the ones found on the hydrophone set. Instead the instrument fired a ping straight down, and measure the amount of time it took for a return. Then a pointer in the circle would orient itself to the determined depth under keel.
All U-boats had this.
Key point, it was used by the navigator, not the sound man.
JScones
03-02-10, 03:15 AM
"What's our depth under keel, obersteuermann?"
"Er... uh..."
"The depth under our keel, mensch. What is it?"
"Well, I... uh... you see, I was sick that day, Herr Kaleun..."
"Verdammt noch mal... fine, c'mere and let me pat you on the bum. There. How's your mother doing? Still living in Hamburg? That's nice. Now try some of Olaf's magic soup..."
"Ja-WOHL, Herr Kaleun! Depth under keel is... 183 METERS!":har:
Haha, thats hilarious!
I for one will add a psychologist with a major in bum-patting to the crew.
frau kaleun
03-02-10, 08:25 AM
Ok. Time to come clean. They modeled the navigator after me.
Pics or it didn't happen. :O:
frau kaleun
03-02-10, 08:28 AM
wtf?! Is SH5 a U-boat sim or a fantasy rpg? :arrgh!:
I don't know, I haven't bought it yet.
I'm only here for the lulz. :O:
Bilge_Rat
03-02-10, 09:26 AM
it appears to be an undocumented key, CCIP has it in his keyboard command mod in the SH5 mod forum.
Shakermaker
03-03-10, 02:55 PM
Question: I am using ddrgn's keymap mod at the moment which maps depth under keel to SHIFT-N. it works because I can clearly hear a ping, but I can't seem to find the depth somewhere. any ideas?
Question: I am using ddrgn's keymap mod at the moment which maps depth under keel to SHIFT-N. it works because I can clearly hear a ping, but I can't seem to find the depth somewhere. any ideas?
Try restarting your campaign. What you should hear the guy reporting, the ping and see the report `depth under keel is XXX meters`on your message screen.
Shakermaker
03-03-10, 03:15 PM
Try restarting your campaign. What you should hear the guy reporting, the ping and see the report `depth under keel is XXX meters`on your message screen.
will do! thanks.
edit
Yup, did the trick. Thanks again.
Galanti
03-03-10, 03:21 PM
Try restarting your campaign. What you should hear the guy reporting, the ping and see the report `depth under keel is XXX meters`on your message screen.
Uh, shouldn't this work without restarting the campaign? Not a very good sign for modding if it doesn't.
Stinger22
03-08-10, 11:12 PM
They had charts back then you know. Why doesn't the map show it or press a key and it shows depth at the cursor or a number tucked away on the screen that shows deph at cursor location.
frau kaleun
03-08-10, 11:24 PM
They had charts back then you know. Why doesn't the map show it or press a key and it shows depth at the cursor or a number tucked away on the screen that shows deph at cursor location.
I dunno, I always figured that since the necessary equipment was actually on WWII uboats, that's how they did it then, with the Echolot, so it's something that's reflected in the game. I don't know that they even had accurate and complete depth charts for all the bodies of water they operated in.
E.Dahlbeck
03-09-10, 02:11 AM
In real life I would expect the sounding to also be used as navigation tool which can be checked against the charts in order to help determine position. Just like an altimeter is helpfull when navigating on land in hilly areas. They didn't have any INS nor GPS back then :88)
Frederf
03-09-10, 02:14 AM
Question: I am using ddrgn's keymap mod at the moment which maps depth under keel to SHIFT-N. it works because I can clearly hear a ping, but I can't seem to find the depth somewhere. any ideas?
The physical device is located in the control room. You might be able to read the value directly off it instead of reading the chat buffer.
E.Dahlbeck
03-09-10, 03:19 AM
You should get a vocal readout as well as figures in the message window.
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