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Bilge_Rat
02-28-10, 09:07 PM
I was wondering if anyone with the game (and internet of course) had any problem playing the game.
In my case, I played about 6+ hours over the past 2 days and had no problems.
The game starts quickly and I had zero interruptions in play.
pretty painless for me so far, but i still dont like it.
Will be secrectly on the lookout for ways to "remove" it, just for principle.
I was wondering if anyone with the game (and internet of course) had any problem playing the game.
In my case, I played about 6+ hours over the past 2 days and had no problems.
The game starts quickly and I had zero interruptions in play.
About same. The worst so far is that it just HAS to remind me that it's there every time I start the game.
No connection drops, no problems.
The leaderboard feature, about the only "benefit" of the system, is absolutely ridiculous though. It is full of hackers with billions of tons sunk and very blatant "cracked" account names. So much for "copy protection" working :nope: I hope they crack down on that, at the very least. It's making it all look like a joke.
I hope the DRM goes away but honestly, on a scale of 1 to 10, it's been 0 as far as having any effect of my experience with the game.
LOL yeah i saw that too, but those names are the names you choose for you career i think.
I chose something stupid (and different than my account name), and that "stupid" name showed up on that screen.
How do you switch careers?
I started one to play around with, and another "serious" one. But i can't figure out how to load my initial one. It only shows my current one in the load screens.
No problem neither with OSP.
No problem with saving/loading delay.
OSP appart, it's not really about bugs or stability. The game seems to be missing some very important features, maybe I did not explore enough...:hmmm:
thruster
02-28-10, 09:50 PM
well, its nice to hear that its not causing much grief so far.
whilst i havnt yet bought the game, my internet connection went thru a typical fail ALL of yesterday. so had i bought it, it would have been useless to me...
so lets get this straight; i have a day off work, i sit down and go "tops, lets go hunting" with my new TypeV11 uboat i just theoretically bought. can i? NO.
typical scenario. sucks to be me, huh.:down:
FIREWALL
02-28-10, 10:11 PM
For the short time I messed around with it I didn't have any problems.
So Far... :haha:
DMB3428
02-28-10, 11:02 PM
no problems here, game seems to load up pretty fast...
Just had to wait almost a minute at the launcher for my online saves to get "syncrhonized" before launching.
I grew impatient waiting and then hit the settings button in the launcher and turned that feature off.. then lauched the game right away. Silly, i'm only playing from 1 PC, why the hell would i want to store my saves online?
Ironically it still gave me a syncrhonization message upon entering the main menu.
bleh.
Elder-Pirate
03-01-10, 12:14 AM
Curious to know, are you ( any of you with new SHV ) running your Anti-Virus in the background? That and maybe a few other online necessary programs running?
Mainly any Anti-Virus is known to goof up your game one way or the other. In fact most games tell you do not run Anti-Virus when installing nor playing.
Meanwhile I'm playing SHIV behind closed doors ( offline hiding from UBI :DL ) with about 75% process shut down in the background.
Scuse me here comes a Japanese oil tanker, gotta run.......er dive.;)
Good luck Captains. :up:
Another problem:
Twice now, it has autosaved on me while using the hydrophone. And both times it kicked me out of the station.
No biggie i say, i just try to re-man the station.. but it wont let me. I keep clicking, walking around in circles and clicking on it again and again. Nothing happens. So i hit ESC then go back, and finally it lets me back in.
Curious to know, are you ( any of you with new SHV ) running your Anti-Virus in the background?
Yes, ESET Anti-Virus, no problem so far.
Few bugs but nothing close to SH4 on release (except for the crew on bridge, they don't report contacts:shifty:). But it seems like there are other types of problems, few things missing.. kinda annoying. Maybe it's just me, time to adapt, I don't know. (don't take it too seriously, only my first impressions).
And my computer is getting really old. :-?
russ555
03-01-10, 03:46 AM
I have never had any problems with any anti virus program effecting games other than AVG once had a false positive on a World of Warcraft file but i just ignored it.
I think that they just say to disable anti virus software as a way of covering themselves.
Connection problems today.
Both times i started the game i get "Failed to syncrhonize saved games". Even though i have it setup to not do that.
And both times when trying to load my last save the game says this immediately after the long load screen:
"The game experiences connection problems. Please wait until the game can resume. You can exit to main menu by pusing OK."
I push OK, and get dumped back to main menu. Try again and it loads.
I'm not a fan. :damn:
About same. The worst so far is that it just HAS to remind me that it's there every time I start the game.
No connection drops, no problems.
The leaderboard feature, about the only "benefit" of the system, is absolutely ridiculous though. It is full of hackers with billions of tons sunk and very blatant "cracked" account names. So much for "copy protection" working :nope: I hope they crack down on that, at the very least. It's making it all look like a joke.
I hope the DRM goes away but honestly, on a scale of 1 to 10, it's been 0 as far as having any effect of my experience with the game.
The game itself has yet to be ripped. Those accounts are probably hacked accounts, not hacked games.
Game is already ripped.
I just talked with a friend on MSN and he gave me screenshots.
He's playing right now the game and he didn't bought it.
Wanted to play SWAT4 and he's busy tring SH5 he just downloaded.
Task Force
03-01-10, 04:10 PM
Hmm, I dont think so... Bioshock 2 with 3 drms was cracked in the first day...
Elder-Pirate
03-01-10, 04:12 PM
he is lying
If you are serious, just how would you know for sure??
Shakermaker
03-01-10, 04:24 PM
If you are serious, just how would you know for sure??
*looks at nickname*
You'd know, wouldn't you? ;)
OakGroove
03-01-10, 04:25 PM
Wouldn't surprise me. BF:BC 2 already is, and it's not even in stores yet.
Capt.Warner
03-01-10, 04:39 PM
Wouldn't surprise me if Silent Hunter V is cracked already either.:nope::shifty:
Elder-Pirate
03-01-10, 04:39 PM
*looks at nickname*
You'd know, wouldn't you? ;)
Look over at my nickname and see when I joined and how many post I have.
Don't think Neal believes that I'm a real game pirate.
Well after looking in a mirror I do have a beard,if that counts. ( :DL ) But alas I do not have the knowledge to screw up a computer game, nor do I want to.
But it does show you were grasping for straws for an answer.
Guys, its not.... Anyone on the net can find a list of games cracked, even in the last few seconds. there is sites dedicated to feeding releases. Its not there.
Remember ROF never got cracked. It never did......
Elder-Pirate
03-01-10, 05:06 PM
Guys, its not.... Anyone on the net can find a list of games cracked, even in the last few seconds. there is sites dedicated to feeding releases. Its not there.
Remember ROF never got cracked. It never did......
OK. :D
SteamWake
03-01-10, 05:34 PM
It is full of hackers with billions of tons sunk and very blatant "cracked" account names..
This is me shocked :har:
This is me shocked :har:
Ya that's not a cracked game, its a cracked account pretty obvious with the billions of tons sunk. He didn't even play the game, just ****ed around with an account.
SteamWake
03-01-10, 06:20 PM
Ya that's not a cracked game, its a cracked account pretty obvious with the billions of tons sunk. He didn't even play the game, just ****ed around with an account.
Still the whole "Leader Board" thing is a fraggin farce if you ask me and really has not place in a game like this... what about mods? Duhrrr...
Then they hack them to boot... laughable.
Thanks for the 'service' Uplay...
Yeah, for all it's worth, while the DRM side of it doesn't bother me, the "online features" are pretty laughable. You can tell that the game wasn't even designed with them in mind and it was tacked on at publisher's insistence. It's not to say that there is no good way to use things like this, but right now the "features" are as good as not being there at all.
Heretic
03-01-10, 06:55 PM
What 'services' there are geared towards the bigger games. They probably didn't think SH5 was big enough to bother with - other then as guinea pig, of course..
Some of the 'cracked' accounts could be UBI techs testing various techniques and counter measures.
Here is an important observation for you:
Just installed the game on my other PC, from the same DVD. I took five seconds between quitting game on one PC and starting it on the other - no complaints from Ubi. Save games were synchronized. Then I went and disabled the server-side save games and tried again - worked as advertised, only my older saves were shared.
All in all, that aspect is at least working as promised. You can indeed install on multiple machines and log in without issues.
Portman
03-01-10, 09:12 PM
Here is an important observation for you:
Just installed the game on my other PC, from the same DVD. I took five seconds between quitting game on one PC and starting it on the other - no complaints from Ubi.
All in all, that aspect is at least working as promised. You can indeed install on multiple machines and log in without issues.
Any ideas on if the lan play allows multiple computers running from the same disc/key or will we need to buy a separate copy for each computer? I've been spoiled by games like Supreme Commander that don't care as long as it's lan play.
I don't think it's possible to start the game without a ubi login, so I suspect that'd be a no, at least for the moment.
...
You might want to be a bit careful about saying that here.
cherbert
03-02-10, 10:43 AM
Plain sailing here.
5 hours +
Sailor Steve
03-02-10, 10:45 AM
You might want to be a bit careful about saying that here.
Yeah. Even mentioning the 'C' word is a big no-no.
SUBSIM Review has a longstanding policy against software piracy. We do NOT allow discussion or even mention of warez, abandonware, peer-to-peer game swapping, illegal download sites, or rip-off websites. Nothing will get you banned faster than pointing people to illegal software distribution sites. Don't ask for serial numbers, manuals, or cracks. Any admission that you have in your possession illegal software can and usually will result in revocation of your Radio Room forum account. Support computer game programmers buy legally purchasing their work. They have to eat too, you know.
OakGroove
03-02-10, 11:06 AM
Guys, its not.... Anyone on the net can find a list of games cracked, even in the last few seconds. there is sites dedicated to feeding releases. Its not there.
My russian is a bit rusty ... but still :yep:
As of now there is no cracked copy. There is a good chance that this game will not get cracked. And if it does it wont be for some time:
Here is an interview with a UBI spokesperson
http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/53221/Ubisoft-Cloud-Copy-Protection-Interview
Note this part:
Do Ubi believe this DRM is unhackable?
They accept that it's all DRM's fate to be eventually hacked, explaining that internally, they've already talked of a timescale for how long their games will be protected by it. But, they believe that it's secure enough for them. "We wouldn't do it if we didn't believe in it. The guys who designed it believe in it. Do we think that it's the one system that God has sent onto earth that will never be cracked by anybody ever? We can't guarantee that, but we believe in it."
OakGroove
03-02-10, 11:26 AM
Rise of Flight had the "benefit" of being an unpopular title. Same goes for Steel Beasts Pro - afaik there's no public crack to date.
Assassins Creed 2 is a whole different story - there is some considerable request. And it uses the same DRM scheme as SH5.
Rise of Flight had the "benefit" of being an unpopular title. Same goes for Steel Beasts Pro - afaik there's no public crack to date.
Assassins Creed 2 is a whole different story - there is some considerable request. And it uses the same DRM scheme as SH5.
I think AC2 will be the major test for this DRM system. If all the games are using it, once it is cracked for one, it will be cracked for all of them. I wait to see what will happen.
...
Ask Neal, check the policies here...
urfisch
03-02-10, 12:54 PM
dear sir, i allways torrent games i buy to keep the orgininal ones in ship shape in the retail box as i consider the game my property when bought. it doesnt matter if i use my cd, your cd, some others cd or a torrent does it?
also i understand your point of view...to say it out loud here is really dangerous. keep it in mind. talking about cracked games, and software piracy is not likely seen here!
Seafireliv
03-02-10, 01:47 PM
It really doesn`t matter how well this DRM 24\7 works or not.
The whole practise is wrong and unacceptable for a SINGLE PLAYER game.
It really doesn`t matter how well this DRM 24\7 works or not.
The whole practise is wrong and unacceptable for a SINGLE PLAYER game.
This isn't the point of the thread though, you should leave sentiments like this for our big giant anti-DRM thread.
I agree that the practice is stupid, but I also acknowledge that at least performance-wise, it's been a non-issue for me so far.
bert8for3
03-02-10, 03:14 PM
Likewise a non-issue in terms of pc/game performance
punisher2010
03-02-10, 10:17 PM
Since Ubisoft can't/won't say what the effects of the dRM are on each game, can someone post what happens if you do lose your connection?
Can you try it in the middle of a tour with no save?
In the middle with a save right before you disconnect?
How long the disconnect needs to be before the DRM kicks in?
Thanks.
jwilliams
03-02-10, 10:25 PM
Since Ubisoft can't/won't say what the effects of the dRM are on each game, can someone post what happens if you do lose your connection?
Can you try it in the middle of a tour with no save?
In the middle with a save right before you disconnect?
How long the disconnect needs to be before the DRM kicks in?
Thanks.
If you lose connection the game pauses after a little while.
If you lose connection you can not save the game.
Save is 1st saved on your harddrive so if connection drops while its uploading your save, then it will finish uploading that save next time you start game. (cloud saves can be turn off)
I guess OSP talks to server every 10 mins, so anywhere between 1sec and 10mins depending on how long since it last talk to ubi servers
mookiemookie
03-03-10, 12:04 AM
Absolute non-issue for me. No lag, no problems with the online sync of savegames. No dropped connections (though I have a very steady net connection as it is).
Come on devs it can't be that hard to make the game do an autosave when connection is lost and pauses the game. When your connection is establish and you start up the game again it should resync with the server. If they put the DRM codes in the game this is what I'll expect the game to do. Maybe it is my common sense that is wrong.
Agustus
03-03-10, 12:59 PM
Zero problems here. Completely unnoticeable during gameplay.
Highbury
03-03-10, 03:01 PM
No problems here. I even re-installed to change the language, told it not to keep my saves etc on my PC and after I re-installed my saves and options were all intact.
Obviously some people are going to have problems, and I may be in the lucky low percentage, but if you do have a stable connection (not fast, stable) it should cause you no issues.
pontius
03-03-10, 05:03 PM
After installation the update worked well, but the gamelauncher refuses to connect to the masterserver - no play here
pontius
Hackerspy
03-03-10, 05:06 PM
As we see there are not any problem with drm, for which many people have been arguing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nordmann
03-03-10, 05:24 PM
I hardly think four pages constitutes everyone who purchased the game.
Ducimus
03-03-10, 06:43 PM
Since this is the only DRM thread left open, i just wanted to point out that history as it pertains to starforce's effectiveness and subsim policy, has officially repeated itself today.
DJSatane
03-03-10, 06:50 PM
If you are online then you shouldnt have problems as long as ubi servers are up, however one cannot play the game legally when they travel/are offline etc this is where this drm really hurts.
Of course, yes this drm already been tackled even the patch...
No problems at all:D
I tried the unplug test and it said to reconnect.
It autochecks every few minutes:D
thruster
03-03-10, 07:25 PM
"If you are online then you shouldnt have problems as long as ubi servers are up, however one cannot play the game legally when they travel/are offline etc this is where this drm really hurts."
Im very glad that those with a stable home base and blessed with good internet are happy. honestly i am. i really want SH5 to be a great success cos i have worried about the genre survival.
however i feel that DJSatane has summed it up for me with his comment above. i travel heaps for work. internet is either non-existent or utterly 3rd world ****e. because i cannot play solo off line this policy effectively excludes me from playing this awesome game.
whilst i accept that i am obviously in the minority it doesnt make it less frustrating. for everyone else; unlike your 'Amex travellers cheques', you may as well leave home without it.
Onkel Neal
03-03-10, 07:26 PM
Since this is the only DRM thread left open, i just wanted to point out that history as it pertains to starforce's effectiveness and subsim policy, has officially repeated itself today.
Yes it has.
karamazovnew
03-03-10, 08:20 PM
Yes it has.
Indeed it has. -----KILLROY WAS HERE------ No idea how this will affect things in the long term. But it ain't gonna be pretty.
BTW: we're all talking about the same thing right?
Edited for fear of brigtime. Last thing I want right now...
UrPeaceKeeper
03-03-10, 09:27 PM
DRM has been a non-issue since D2D allowed me to download my copy of the game at 7:45 CST yesterday. It is not as big of a deal in terms of interrupting game play. It is very well implimented so far...
My problem with DRM is beyond the issue of having a permanet internet connection but the amount of information that Ubi is gathering from those of us who play. Data mining at it's worst.
Capt.Warner
03-03-10, 11:55 PM
Haven't had any problems with the DRM yet.My biggest concern is if Ubisoft ever shut's down their servers.:o
No major problems.
It is annoying however, when it autosaves whenever the hell it wants.
It always seems to be when I am zooming in on a ship in the final stages of an attack, makes the game pause for about a second.
Could just be my imagination though.
:DL
pontius
03-04-10, 12:40 AM
A new day (official release here) and still not able to launch the game. The launcher doas not find any server :(
JScones
03-04-10, 03:08 AM
As we see there are not any problem with drm, for which many people have been arguing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You might want to ask the guy who posted immediately before you whether he agrees with this statement. :haha:
http://www.maxconsole.net/content.php?38803
25 hours. So imho Ubis DRM wasn't aimed into piracy but secondary market. They shoot theyself into stomache.
pontius
03-04-10, 07:29 AM
It works now, ZoneAlarm7 was blocking it although it was shut down, With ZoneAlarm9 all works well ...
McHibbins
03-04-10, 08:33 AM
Canīt start the game īcause canīt register. Ubi told me that my E-Mail Adress is still in use.....but...i donīt have any clue when where and under which name an active Acc is still alive
Catfish
03-04-10, 08:54 AM
When, in a thousand years from now, and manking has extinguished itself, an alien race from outer space lands on earth and discovers old computer programs, they will endlessly think about the fact that 99,9 percent of the software actually consists of code to prevent the 0,1 percent rest of the software, from running.
(Not an augury from the Cree, but from Catfish)
Herodotus
03-04-10, 09:49 AM
According to a News Article on "Strategy Informer", the game's DRM has already been cracked:
http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/7190/rumour-mill-pirates-depth-charge-new-ubi-drm-in-silent-hunter-5
If it's true, I hope Ubisoft either now remove this failed(?) security measure as it only penalises legit owners.
If it's true, I hope Ubisoft either now remove this failed(?) security measure as it only penalises legit owners.
If Ubisoft's past record offers any clues, chances are they will just
make a more(!) invasive DRM system and roll it out in an auto-update.
If Ubisoft's past record offers any clues, chances are they will just
make a more(!) invasive DRM system and roll it out in an auto-update.
This is sad but true.
I have not had any connection issues, but my Comcast Broadband never has had any hiccups or downtime in my market.
The General
03-04-10, 11:01 AM
Flawless! :D
Herodotus
03-04-10, 11:30 AM
Canīt start the game īcause canīt register. Ubi told me that my E-Mail Adress is still in use.....but...i donīt have any clue when where and under which name an active Acc is still alive
That happened to me with SH4 a few years back. I believe I opened a new e-mail account then re-registered with Ubi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkLCAHk_qW4&feature=related
:) amazing, wonder if it was uploaded by someone from subsim? love it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkLCAHk_qW4&feature=related
:) amazing, wonder if it was uploaded by someone from subsim? love it!
Haha, very funny! :D:D
Downfall is a pretty good film!
paul_kingtiger
03-04-10, 01:08 PM
I've noticed cracked versions of SH5 are avalable on torrent sites. I've no idea if these versions work or have full fuctionality, but if they are it shows that any DRM can be cracked.
So the question is: Is the amount of revinue 'saved' with this DRM greater than the amount of revinue 'lost' through people refusing to buy the game because of the DRM.
Sailor Steve
03-04-10, 01:31 PM
So the question is: Is the amount of revinue 'saved' with this DRM greater than the amount of revinue 'lost' through people refusing to buy the game because of the DRM.
Since it appears that half the people who said they wouldn't buy it already have, probably not.
Since it appears that half the people who said they wouldn't buy it already have, probably not.
Source?
I see no evidence of this on any kind of scale.
I don't think it's fair to make vague accusations of hypocrisy without some evidence.
Sailor Steve
03-04-10, 04:35 PM
Source?
I see no evidence of this on any kind of scale.
I don't think it's fair to make vague accusations of hypocrisy without some evidence.
I'm not accusing anybody of anything. In fact pretty much everybody who has posted saying they got it anyway has recieved nothing but praise from me.
As for evidence, people are posting all the time saying "this number of people are doing that", and you don't seem to have questioned them.
But since I'm supposedly special, I'll apologise once again for overstating my case.
On the other hand, do you have a guess on the 'revenues' question I was addressing?
Farinhir
03-04-10, 04:41 PM
Source?
I see no evidence of this on any kind of scale.
I don't think it's fair to make vague accusations of hypocrisy without some evidence.
Agreed. I still have not bought SH5 or AC2, and I am still active on the UBI forums in protest of this DRM. It is less out of principle, and more due to the fact that my internet fails all the time. Although, I do consider myself a person with whom their word is their bond. If I were to break that bond I would not be an ethical person in my view.
talonclawz
03-04-10, 08:27 PM
I have no intention of purchasing this game as long as Ubisoft has their draconian DRM attached to it. If someone comes out with a crack to bypass their DRM, I might consider purchasing it, but with all the posts from people saying how poor the game is, I might just pass for good. Seems like the Romanians can't do anything right. SH3 was the last good game in the series. SH4 had issues even after the last patch and I just quit playing it. This one seems like a total dud. Downhill ever since SH3 it seems. Plus, I have no intention of supporting the Ubisoft nazis and their DRM. Ever. I held my ground on MW2 and refused to buy it for PC due to the absence of dedicated servers. I also refused to buy AC2 due to the same nazi DRM they are using here, even though I played the original and really enjoyed it. They will NOT get my money.
Ducimus
03-04-10, 08:47 PM
Dunno if someone posted this or not, but it's a hoot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cmpY_sY5K4
Herodotus
03-04-10, 08:57 PM
I went ahead and got it (kind of an early Birthday pressie for myself...that was my excuse, anyway). At the moment I'm more confused than anything:o.
Only one or two of the original keyboard commands are the same, so in the heat of battle you hit what would normally be view left, and your rudder turns one point. Hit enter to fire a torpedo and you unlock your view of the target. Why they had to go and mess with a formula that has survived every iteration of the title is beyond me, and has the official forums ablaze:rock:.
The graphics are a mixed bag. On the whole I'd have to say - console port (and it's not even available on console:doh:
).
As for the DRM...not a problem so far, but loading a mission or saved game can take 1-2 minutes+. One thing that is very jarring - no swastikas (just an Iron Cross). They might be banned in Romania, but they aren't in Australia.
I won't go on, as I would actually very much like to think this is a game with promise.
Fellow submariners...notice I said GAME, as this is not a sub sim at all.
theluckyone17
03-04-10, 09:45 PM
Since it appears that half the people who said they wouldn't buy it already have, probably not.
For what it's worth, I still haven't bought it. Nor has my wife bought it :D. I've been pitching a fit about the DRM for long enough that even she knows enough not to buy it for me, too. :nope:
If it wasn't for the DRM, I'd be picking it up ASAP.
"If you are online then you shouldnt have problems as long as ubi servers are up, however one cannot play the game legally when they travel/are offline etc this is where this drm really hurts."
Im very glad that those with a stable home base and blessed with good internet are happy. honestly i am. i really want SH5 to be a great success cos i have worried about the genre survival.
however i feel that DJSatane has summed it up for me with his comment above. i travel heaps for work. internet is either non-existent or utterly 3rd world ****e. because i cannot play solo off line this policy effectively excludes me from playing this awesome game.
whilst i accept that i am obviously in the minority it doesnt make it less frustrating. for everyone else; unlike your 'Amex travellers cheques', you may as well leave home without it.You are not alone. This is the major reason why I don't intend to buy the game until a patch to remove OSP has been released.
The problem when travelling is not restricted to there being none or poor internet availability, the problem is when travelling that any internet access can hideously expensive. I was in a hotel last week where internet access could be purchased in 1 hour increments for $5.00 ea or get a whole day for $15! Extortion at its best and therefore as my company is footing the bill I only use these sorts of connections for work and only when absolutely necessary.
Trying to find free WiFi can be a bugger as well, depending on where in the world you are.
Without the net this game is merely lost data storage space. I'm hanging onto my $100 until it gets removed officially.
Ships-R-Us
03-04-10, 10:24 PM
Ubisoft needs cash flow and released SH5.
Aside from the "Realism" geeks, and the "hardcome subsimmers" represented at Subsim.com, which maybe represents 10% of Ubisofts sales.....
90% of Ubisofts sales are a new smash hit amongst all the moms, dads, and kids worldwide, as they all get "immersed" in their own "realistic" world of family activity together.
I'm going to run next door and play with that family rather than listen to the kids whine at Subsim.
Reminds me of the selfish bitc..... that threw back the engagement ring because it wasn't big enough.
Iron Budokan
03-04-10, 10:36 PM
I decided not to buy this game way before I even heard about DRM. I still haven't bought it and I have no plans to buy it for the foreseeable future until many of these problems are corrected. And even then...who knows? :O:
BlackSpot
03-04-10, 10:41 PM
I decided not to buy this game way before I even heard about DRM. I still haven't bought it and I have no plans to buy it for the foreseeable future until many of these problems are corrected. And even then...who knows? :O:
I can't wait to see what you decide to do ... :yawn:
Still can't get the launcher to understand that i dont want to save my games onto the server. Everytime i get to the main menu, it syncs my save games. A few times, it said failed to sync, and i have to reload.
Also, I've had about 5 disconnects so far, probably just my ISP, but while the game says to wait for a reconnect.. i ALT-TAB out and check my browser, and I can surf the web just fine. Go figure.
Only once though has it failed to reconnect, and i had to dump back to the main menu losing progress. I did notice however since the launcher was updated... the last time i got a connection problem the game immediately saved itself. Saved it as AutoSave_Reconnect or something like that. I didn't need to use it though, because it reconnected itself after about 5 seconds.
Maybe it's my ISP, maybe it's the router im using who knows. But as far as this whole thing being transparent.. it's not for me.
piri_reis
03-05-10, 12:20 PM
Small report: Been 4 days playing this with my shady cable connection, DRM hasn't given me any problems.
I don't like the scheme, don't want to upload/sync my saves(I know how to turn it off) but I was expecting at least a few disconnections due to DRM, nothing yet.
ENtek-IO
03-05-10, 02:51 PM
Between Tarjaks and ships R us was my Post where has it gone to???
Guys i got a copy of it and i will re-post it in 5 hours ok? has someone the nerve to explain to me what happened and why??.
I am prity sure i didnt attack anyone in person so wtf!!!??? Are we wandering now on UBis ways here or what?
Onkel Neal
03-05-10, 06:05 PM
Between Tarjaks and ships R us was my Post where has it gone to???
Guys i got a copy of it and i will re-post it in 5 hours ok? has someone the nerve to explain to me what happened and why??.
I am prity sure i didnt attack anyone in person so wtf!!!??? Are we wandering now on UBis ways here or what?
Before you wtf yourself into oblivion, read the rules here, please. Be sure when you make your post you do not step across that line.
FAQ & Rules (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq.php): they have been here longer than you, and they keep this forum from becoming a zoo like most others.
best reagrds
Neal
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ENtek-IO
03-05-10, 06:48 PM
Ironic i am site Admin myself,i know exactly what i wrote , wtf , i used the very moment my post got axed.
I would like to know what was so offending in that post , maybe in form of a PM?
Otherwise i would face the possibility while i reformulate this post to trip the same trap again.
Best Regards.
PS"there was nothing anarchistic in that post.":salute:
Ok i re read the forum rules,based on this i would say,my post wasn't exactly deescalating the atmosphere regardless of how indirect it was.
Which is not ok.
Please accept my excuse.
ENteK-IO
tomwhite56
03-05-10, 06:59 PM
I never buy games new in any case. I figure the game is going to be at least as good if not better due to patches a year from now, and lots cheaper. It's like the idea of buying Windows 7 prior to at least the first Service Pack. Who in the world???
But my refusal to buy the game with the online DRM is definitely a principles question. You shouldn't have to rely on an internet connection to play a game, unless it's an online (multiplayer) game, period. It's very Big Brother of them. I'll be glad to install the game with the registration key that comes with the game, but if, for instance, I want to shut down my internet connection so I can turn off Firewall and close my virus protection to get the most out of my system, I have the right to do it. Never mind if I shouldn't have to or not. It has to do with MY RIGHTS as a consumer.
So I will NOT be buying SH5 as long as the online DRM is required.
:rock:
Fubar2Niner
03-05-10, 07:32 PM
@tomwhite56
First up and most importantly, welcome aboard. Second 'I did in the world buy win 7' and so far so good re win 7 :03: Totally agreed as are many others regarding the DRM debacle, game is cracked including the update which on looking round the posts, still leaves many issues unaddresed. So what the hell use is the DRM ?
Stickiing with SH3 and the worlds best modders, for now.
If and when UBI drops the stupid DRM idea, fixes the bugs, and opens the game up to those that really care, ie. the modders. And those, that like me rely on them for their enthusiasm and willingness to detail, fix the devs/publishers (mishaps). Mishaps which are payed for I have to add. Then perhaps I will buy the game, then again , SH 8 will have raised it's periscope and we'll be in a cold war era........................... ?
Best regards.
Fubar2Niner
Onkel Neal
03-05-10, 07:33 PM
Ironic i am site Admin myself,i know exactly what i wrote , wtf , i used the very moment my post got axed.
I would like to know what was so offending in that post , maybe in form of a PM?
Otherwise i would face the possibility while i reformulate this post to trip the same trap again.
Best Regards.
PS"there was nothing anarchistic in that post.":salute:
Ok i re read the forum rules,based on this i would say,my post wasn't exactly deescalating the atmosphere regardless of how indirect it was.
Which is not ok.
Please accept my excuse.
ENteK-IO
Sure man, PM me your post and I'll look at it.
I keep forgetting that it's there:D:D:arrgh!:
Fubar2Niner
03-05-10, 07:50 PM
@ERPP8
What is where? More to the point where is What ?
Best regards
Fubar2Niner
Herodotus
03-05-10, 08:13 PM
Stepping away from "SH5"'s DRM for a moment:timeout:.
Just wait for the screams and howls that will erupt when Oleg Maddox releases "Storm Over Britain". Previous "IL2" titles have of course been published by Ubisoft and if the DRM isn't addressed, there certainly will be a storm.
Back to "SH5", yes I bought the game and am enjoying the early Mods already published (thanks guys). A long way from being a complete product, however.
Ubisoft really should look at the business models of GFWL and STEAM (yeah I know, they have their faults and detractors), if anything at all. If they want a direct delivery system, which UPlay really is then they need to remove compulsory online connection at all times. As a DRM solution it is questionable at best (still waiting for Ubersoft to admit the game has been hacked).
theluckyone17
03-05-10, 11:26 PM
Stepping away from "SH5"'s DRM for a moment:timeout:.
Just wait for the screams and howls that will erupt when Oleg Maddox releases "Storm Over Britain". Previous "IL2" titles have of course been published by Ubisoft and if the DRM isn't addressed, there certainly will be a storm.
Last I heard, Ubiosft wasn't publishing SoB... 1C is.
Still haven't bought SH5 yet, too. As soon as Ubisoft drops OSP, or at least reduces the need to be constantly connected, they'll get my money.
Herodotus
03-05-10, 11:37 PM
Last I heard, Ubiosft wasn't publishing SoB... 1C is.
Still haven't bought SH5 yet, too. As soon as Ubisoft drops OSP, or at least reduces the need to be constantly connected, they'll get my money.
Depends if Maddox wishes to appeal to the console crowd with "SoB", as his "IL2: Birds of Prey" was such a success.
1C doesn't have the publishing power of Ubisoft, though I do prefer them as publishers go.
I am having a horrendous time. Played fine yesterday (applied the 1.0.1 patch just after installing), and today I cannot get back into the game - it is stuck during the "Synchronizing saved games" bit on the main menu. The game is totally frozen.
Switching off the 'sync games with server' option in the launcher does not change the behavior.
This was supposed to be fixed on the 1.0.1 patch apparently, but had not effect. tried re-applying the patch and that did nothing. So now I cannot play at all. $50 down the tubes...:damn:
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