Should Ubisoft bring SH-VI to the future?

[James_MkIII]

With Silent Hunter V returning to the Atlantic after a brief detour to the Pacific, I have been wondering what's left for the romanian team to do world war wise in their brilliant series of submarine simulators? Is the next step a leap towards present day?, or perhaps the future? -Would you like to command the "USS Texas", the prototype Swedish submarine or perhaps the new malaysian Scorpene-class?, or would you rather continue commanding the WWII subs? Do you think Ubisoft can keep it's Silent Hunter franchise within the grasp of the second world war, or do you see them evolveving towards a modern-day-sub-sim?

-It seems to me SH5 will be the ultimate WWII sub-experience to-date. But if you could choose the time-setting of the next Silent Hunter, -what would you choose?, and what steps would you like the developers to take?
I would love to hear what's on your mind concerning the Silent Hunter/WWII topic, -I've got mixed emotions! I love SH3 and 4, but I'd love to take an Virginia-class submarine to sea and engage the enemy with some long-range-missiles!

Yours truly, able seaman, James MkIII

[The General]

I think it'd be interesting if the team tried their hand at a modern Subsim. They could focus on just one Sub type as they've done with SH5 and place it in a theoretical scenario, like The Hunt or Red October.

[Q3ark]

I vote WW2. There's still so much to explore, they've done the US and German boats there's still the UK or maybe the Russians to do next

[derblaueClaus]

I'd like a Cold War Scenario most. Just sneaking after enemy subs or ships, gathering intelligence, trying to get away undected.......would be a very thrilling scenario at least for me. Wouldn't mind if the Cold War gets hot of course.:ping:

Edit : As there is no "Cold War" Option I voted for "Present Day".

[James_MkIII]

I'd like a Cold War Scenario most. Just sneaking after enemy subs or ships, gathering intelligence, trying to get away undected.......would be a very thrilling scenario at least for me. Wouldn't mind if the Cold War gets hot of course.:ping:

Edit : As there is no "Cold War" Option I voted for "Present Day".

Nice edit. I catch your drift. The Cold War scenario would be smashing! Loads of sneaky missions (as I prefer!) is hidden here :)

[mookiemookie]

If they made it anything but WW2, I wouldn't play it.

[conus00]

I'd like to see WWI. Boarding schooners, deck gun battles with Q-ships. Scuttling ships with explosives.
Stuff from with Lowell Thomas' Riders of the Deep! :salute:

[ERPP8]

Silent Hunter is the only modern(good graphics) subsim.
They should make something like a new version of Dangerous Waters.
Where else is there to go in WWII
So I vote present day.



Also
I'd like a Cold War Scenario most. Just sneaking after enemy subs or ships, gathering intelligence, trying to get away undected.......would be a very thrilling scenario at least for me. Wouldn't mind if the Cold War gets hot of course.:ping:

Edit : As there is no "Cold War" Option I voted for "Present Day".
That is a good point.
Unless something extreme happens we don't even need our Silent Service.

[Onkel Neal]

SH6 will be about Cold War subs. And since the SH6 release date is 2025, Cold War subs will be old history. :03:

[Greentimbers]

WW 1 for me

The old subs were a challenge just to keep afloat sometimes.

:salute:

[R-T-B]

If they made it anything but WW2, I wouldn't play it.

Ditto. Where's the fun if shooting something causes nuclear war?

WWII for me. Looks like that's the majority opinion as well.

[scrapser]

I vote WW2 but would like to add the tooth fairy wish that they do a full PTO simulation of the entire war with all salient US Fleet boats available to command as they historically appeared in the war. Would be nice if they took another crack at a hardcore simulation, too. Maybe SHV will reveal this is what most people who play sub sims want. It's not all about the eye candy.

[Sgtmonkeynads]

Ehhh...you never know.
look at COD, started in WWII, and pretty much rode out the entire "Every shooter must be WWII or halo period"
To most peoples surprise it went modern and pretty much came out as a stronger game because of their willingness to change.

I vote WWII, but it will eventually become stagnate and in need of a change eventually.

[audessy]

I think the next release should be still in WWII. However I'd like to see a arcade/less realistic version with a really nice storyline while still keeping the game dynamic. Ubisoft has already done this with Il-2 and Blazing Angels.

What spawned this idea was seeing the interaction between the captain and crew in SH5. Also a memory from long ago in Aces of the Deep... THE NIGHTCLUB!

Imagine returning from a patrol and speaking with others inside the harbor. Going to the nightclub and having other captains give you hints about things you may encounter on your next patrol. Some unhistorical upgrades for the boat would be cool too :rock:

I know it sounds a little rpg'esque for the hardcore simmer out there but personally I love RPG's and I'd like to see the two come together.

[Iron Budokan]

WWII.

They haven't even begun to simulate that conflict yet.

They do a good job giving us a veneer. They need to really concentrate on the myriad details and bring the full expanse of the sea war home.

[karamazovnew]

I voted for WW2.

I would also like to see WW1, but most of the sinkings then were made with deck guns. Torpedoes could only shoot straight (I think) and there was no TDC. So it could be fun...

The Cold War had zero sub battles so fudge that...

And the present is even more pacifist. Damned hippies. :|\\

[jerm138]

No offense, but I think a Cold War version would get mighty boring. Unless it's a hypothetical WWIII scenario, you wouldn't get to shoot at anything... you'd just go listen to stuff and follow other subs. Of course, you'd have a bigger boat to walk around. You probably wouldn't get to go aft though, since the Navy would have a hissy fit if someone modeled one of our "confidential" nuclear engine rooms, even though there's really nothing of interest there, either.

Modern day subs would be boring too (I know... I was there.)

Even if you did had a hypothetical WWIII scenario, you can't use the scope... that damn thing gets picked up on radar the second it breaks the surface... so you'd be doing sonar-only intercepts the whole time.

If it's set in the future... uggh... no thank you. I can't stand any game that's not based on reality.

[Méo]

Main purpose of a submarine in...

WWII - Sink ships, a lot of ships

Cold war - launch missiles

So not very surprising if the ''sinking ships'' game gets more votes. :hmmm:

Although I must admit I would love to give a try to the German type 212.

[walsh2509]

I think there is still a lot of mileage to be had with SH set in WWII , ok I played http://www.subsim.com/images/kc2006/subsim4.jpg and yes trying to hunt a Boomer and getting away with out being detected was good stuff , but with nukes and fire and forget it takes away I think from the satisfaction of games like the SH series.

I hope there is a next one and I hope its still set in WWII , voice commands would be a good add as well as DX11 though not the top of a WL.

[U-Bones]

I have always wanted a well done WWI sub game, and I have always had a soft spot for the "starter" boats in all the sub games I have played.

It's the purity found in simplicity that I love. Mission centric, tools are incidental...

Find them, sink them. Create fear.

[Yak]

I would love to see a sturgeon and/or skipjack class boat done in Silent Hunter Style, 1960's or 1970's cold war, I find it annoying in the 688i/SC/DW series where I feel like i'm in a two man minisub and the other guy is the work experience kid along for the ride leaving me to do everything personally.

Of course the idea of a Red Storm Rising game just goes without saying, we'd all love that.

[ridley]

None of the above for me.

Destroyer command II set in WWII, to link in with SH5. Multiplayer would be so much fun.

Ridley

[jwilliams]

WW2 or WW1 for me.

I think info on modern day subs is limited (due to Top secret issues). All the modern subs i've been on i wasnt even allowed a camera onboard.

And i dont like the idea of being able to launch nukes and ending the war in one shot... lol :haha:

Before moving to NZ (from Plymouth, UK) I went to Navy days every 2 years. :D

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/operations-and-support/establishments/naval-bases-and-air-stations/hmnb-devonport/navy-days-2009/

http://www.justplymouth.co.uk/events/Navy-Days.php

HMNB Devonport, the largest naval base in western europe with over 5000 ship movements a year. And is the only UK site equipped to conduct nuclear refits. Subs and warships were a common sight.:yeah:

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/operations-and-support/establishments/naval-bases-and-air-stations/hmnb-devonport/

HMS Turbulent

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/upload/img_400/%5B%281201%29-17-04-2003%5Dturbs800.jpg

P.S. the naval base is in the wrong position in SH3. It's further up the river Tamar (left river) in RL

[The General]

SH6 will be about Cold War subs. And since the SH6 release date is 2025, Cold War subs will be old history. :03:Wow, you heard it here first folks! :DL :up:

[goldorak]

I vote WW2. There's still so much to explore, they've done the US and German boats there's still the UK or maybe the Russians to do next


Nobody cares, its like saying lets do a SH episode about the italian submarine force during WW2. Its going to sell what 10 copies ? :haha:
What you ask is the stuff for modders to do.

There is only so much you can do and have a mass market appeal, and after 5 episodes of SH in WW2 its time to go elsewhere. WWI perhaps ? Or maybe a cold war sim ? That could be very interesting.

[goldorak]

Main purpose of a submarine in...

WWII - Sink ships, a lot of ships

Cold war - launch missiles

So not very surprising if the ''sinking ships'' game gets more votes. :hmmm:

Although I must admit I would love to give a try to the German type 212.

Yeah thats why all modern subs have basically ditched torpedoes and carry only missiles eh ? :har:
Submarines have many purposes, one of them is to sink high value surface assets. Another is to hunt down other submarines (something that wasn't even possibile in WW2 were you were limited by technology to only hunt surface vessels). And just to set the record straight, the only real submarine of WW2 was the Type XXI. All the other were just surface vessels that could submerge at the last minute to attack convoys. They were useless for any other kind of mission.

[Méo]

Main purpose of a submarine in...

WWII - Sink ships, a lot of ships

Cold war - launch missiles
Yeah thats why all modern subs have basically ditched torpedoes and carry only missiles eh ? :har:

Sorry, I didn't know the Cold war was still ongoing in our ''modern'' days. thanks! I've learn something new today!

Submarines have many purposes

Really! thanks! I've learn another thing new today!

one of them is to sink high value surface assets

So in the Cold war the main purpose of a submarine was to sink high value surface assets and not to target major cities!

Again, I've learn another thing today, great! Thanks!

[Furia]

We still miss a surface vs subsurface sim.

If not implemented in future patches of SH V, SHVI should include human controlled escorts so we can finally have decent naval multiplayer battles with escorts hunt subs while sub hunt merchies and escorts, instead the boring cooperative ones where some players just share the same virtual ocean.

This is what we do miss and this is what would make Naval sim world alive with flotillas, destroyer squadrons, tactics, tournaments, wars..........

my two cents.

Ahh the time frame WWII of course, for a modern sim we would need a much different interfaces than we have in SH series and also would require players to "study" a bit more as was required in Dangerous Waters and that was a sales trouble since actual publishers pretend all their products sell as much as AVATAR or Harry Potter. :|\\

[jwilliams]

Yep multi player should be surface ships ( player 1 (ASW vessel) has to escort a convoy from A to B and player 2 (sub) has to stop them).

even a MMO sub game. although i think the time compresion would cause a bit of a headache for the designers and devs.

[goldorak]

We still miss a surface vs subsurface sim.


Hear hear, many players still miss SH II vs Destroyer Command.
Things are interesting only so much when you go ALWAYS against AI dumb convoys.
Once you learn the pattern/s, there is no more challenge.
Players versus players is a whole different ballgame though.
And one that could improve dramatically the SH series.
Alas Ubisoft has no intention of resucitating a multiplayer multistation cooperative/competitive environment.

[Wewerka]

What about some hypothetical scenario from 1935 - 1950? .
Starts with normal historical subs and continues to some crazy-experimental weapons . Something like Crimson Skies game and it will be interesting if your actions would deeply impact the war .
Imagine war would be between Allies,Axis and Commitern and everyone wants to control seas , after battles on land have stopped ...
BTW sorry for my bad english

[tonibamestre]

Definitely! SHVI should start in 1948-50,the beginning of the Cold War.Implementing two full 3D submarines,one from US,the other from URSS,even though they were diesel electric still and performing hipothetical missions and what if situations.
Then,once the base game is launched more addons should be developed giving way to the nuclear age,and introducing new technologies,platforms and weapons.
After that,could be left in the air if the modern age could see the light with the ultimate boomers,SSNs,and surface vessels.

I vote for running forward indeed

[asanovic7]

I think they should end the series.. :O:

[ERPP8]

I think they should end the series.. :O:
Don't tell me that's because of DRM

[asanovic7]

No, it's not because of drm.. It's not because of one boat, 1943 ending, "ui", etc. etc. It's because every new edition is worse than the last one.. :rotfl2:

[tonibamestre]

Tell you about 2 full 3D classes for a SHVI:

-US Tang
-URSS Whiskey

+ all surface naval AI forces from both sides at that age.Also nuclear capability for torpedoes.

Looks that interesting?


:ping::ping:

[Webchessie]

SH6 will be about Cold War subs. And since the SH6 release date is 2025, Cold War subs will be old history. :03:

I'm thinking of a song . . . Also that will be when pc games are so advanced that they are downloaded (with a link to Ubisoft's cerebral servers) directly into your mind. :o


Don't go there about what you use as a controller . . . :03:

[TH0R]

WWII

[jerm138]

Definitely! SHVI should start in 1948-50,the beginning of the Cold War.Implementing two full 3D submarines,one from US,the other from URSS,even though they were diesel electric still and performing hipothetical missions and what if situations.
Then,once the base game is launched more addons should be developed giving way to the nuclear age,and introducing new technologies,platforms and weapons.
After that,could be left in the air if the modern age could see the light with the ultimate boomers,SSNs,and surface vessels.

I vote for running forward indeed

But what would you do the whole time? Patrol around and wait, never getting to fire anything? The only way to do it would be a hypothetical WWIII scenario. Then someone could come up with an ultra-realistic mod so that we can do what modern submarines really do nowadays... prepare for ORSE (Operational Reactor Safeguards Examination) over and over. After all, most of the current skippers think that the primary mission of the submarine is to score high on ORSE. Sad really. :nope:

[ERPP8]

No offense, but I think a Cold War version would get mighty boring. Unless it's a hypothetical WWIII scenario, you wouldn't get to shoot at anything... you'd just go listen to stuff and follow other subs. Of course, you'd have a bigger boat to walk around. You probably wouldn't get to go aft though, since the Navy would have a hissy fit if someone modeled one of our "confidential" nuclear engine rooms, even though there's really nothing of interest there, either.

Modern day subs would be boring too (I know... I was there.)

Even if you did had a hypothetical WWIII scenario, you can't use the scope... that damn thing gets picked up on radar the second it breaks the surface... so you'd be doing sonar-only intercepts the whole time.

If it's set in the future... uggh... no thank you. I can't stand any game that's not based on reality.
I would love a cold war game.
But it has to be a "What if" scenarion like if missile exchanges were going to start and you ave to find and sink the Soviot Sub.:D

[Sailor Steve]

It's because every new edition is worse than the last one.. :rotfl2:
3 was worse than 2?:o

My answer to the poll is: It Depends. If SH5 is as modable as we would like, or if they do DLC for it, the anything is possible with this one title. It may well be possible to recreate the Pacific war with this one game. Of course someone would have to actually fund proper British, Dutch or Japanese voices, but it could be done.

If that is the case then SH6 can be anything it wants to be. Of course if the above is true then SH5 could also be modded into a Cold War sim, or anything else we liked.

So, once again, I didn't vote.:sunny:

[HundertzehnGustav]

i think they should end the series.. :o:

basically +1?

But gimme an addon with the second half of the war first.

[tonibamestre]

Confirm!!! But, later on develop an amazing SH starting in the 60s and able to upgrade via modular releases,bringing us new submarines and surface platforms.
A good start would be: SHVI The Cold War Below, featuring Tang and Whiskey classes + further expansion implementing Farragut DD and Kara classes + more and more modular platforms.

:03: We need a really dynamic future SH series!!

[IanC]

I vote for a bleak dystopian future where aliens are ruling the earth, and the crew of an old restored WWII sub is our only hope.

[Safe-Keeper]

So much untapped potential here.

http://a5.vox.com/6a00c2251f3d65604a00e398e2a6850004-500pi

Imagine all the role-playing and intrigue from walking around in that entire sub!

[JScones]

WWII...Means they can stretch the SH3/SH4 engine one more time.