Option Screen screenshots

[Heretic]

I think this is important to enough people to justify a thread. Thanks to danygrey for posting them

I'm just trying out the game now, but here's a couple of pics from the option-screen.

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4451/sh52010022714501999.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6896/sh52010022714511597.jpg

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/4233/sh52010022714512124.jpg

[Heretic]

'No ship damage meters' :up:

[The Enigma]

'No ship damage meters' :up:

That is bad news since I wanted an option to start a mission with a damage sub. :hmmm: (joking)

[Feuer Frei!]

'No ship damage meters' :up:

Option for "health bar"?
If so.... (turned off) :yeah:

[rcjonessnp175]

Sweet love to see the shadows option thank god finally!! And cant wait to see the sun rays coming through the top hatch and through smoke like the videos woohoo:o

[Church SUBSIM]

Does the resolution support 1900x1200?

[Sanuck]

I asked ddrgn whos got the game in another thread
he says hes running in 1920 x 1200
yipee

:woot:

[COWBOY10]

I asked ddrgn whos got the game in another thread
he says hes running in 1920 x 1200
yipee

:woot:

Thats great news, Now I only hope it supports 3840 x 1024, Will look great if it does :) Hell will look great no matter what.

Damn this wait till Fri is gonna be hell :)

[Frnocom]

Holy Smokes....."Realistic Sound Travel Time" :rock::rock::rock:

[Wraithe]

Holy Smokes....."Realistic Sound Travel Time" :rock::rock::rock:

That one is old isn't it?

[Hartmann]

Very similar to SH4 options, but they should include " Play offline"

[oscar19681]

'No ship damage meters' :up:

No ship damage meters? Thats it ! This game is crap i,m not buying it. And DRM sucks! :haha:

[Frnocom]

That one is old isn't it?


I don't know. I never had SH4.....I'm more into the U-Boot scene.:DL

[Sone7]

I don't know. I never had SH4.....I'm more into the U-Boot scene.:DL
Sure, that was in SH4 too ;)

[Frnocom]

No ship damage meters? Thats it ! This game is crap i,m not buying it. And DRM sucks! :haha:

Huh?

[Nisgeis]

Holy Smokes....."Realistic Sound Travel Time" :rock::rock::rock:

I bet that's only for above water sound. SH4's underwater sound travelled at the speed of light. Still, I can hope :DL.

[difool2]

"Deck gun projectile path"-what, they put a colored parabolic trail on your shells, a quasi-tracer?

[Heretic]

"Deck gun projectile path"-what, they put a colored parabolic trail on your shells, a quasi-tracer?
The screenshots from the German mag showed what looked like a blue dotted line to help aim the gun on easy level. That might be it.

[Frnocom]

I bet that's only for above water sound. SH4's underwater sound travelled at the speed of light. Still, I can hope :DL.


I would hope so. Sound travels much much faster through solids and liquids than it does through air.:yep:

[PL_Andrev]

:damn: :damn: :damn:

We are still in the same place !!!

The worst possible solution. If someone forgets to set correctly signed to fair-play clan game and start play multiplayer then what?

I wrote on the UBI forums:

1) Let the host manages this option
2) New option: KIA = signatures on, SURV = signatures off
:down:

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6871/signaturesz.jpg

[Nisgeis]

I would hope so. Sound travels much much faster through solids and liquids than it does through air.:yep:

About twice the speed in water than in air, but still nowhere near instantaneous.

[Wraithe]

About twice the speed in water than in air, but still nowhere near instantaneous.

I think it's more like over 4 times as fast as in air and it would be nice hearing a thud in the water 4 times faster than above the waterline =P

[Frnocom]

About twice the speed in water than in air, but still nowhere near instantaneous.

I don't mean to keep going with this, but if the facts in wiki are anywhere near correct (one can't believe everything on there), it states sound through air is 343 m/s, where through water it is 4.3 times faster at 1484 m/s. Of course there are many variables.

Wiki Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound)

Anyways....I'm just glad to have this option, even if it isn't in effect below the surface.:up:

edit: uppp^^^...you beat me to it.

[tommyk]

I would hope so. Sound travels much much faster through solids and liquids than it does through air.:yep:

i think about 330m/s in air and about 1530m/s in seawater. Depending on temperate and pressure..

[Sailor Steve]

Holy Smokes....."Realistic Sound Travel Time" :rock::rock::rock:
That's already in SH4 - three years old now.

Huh?
Oscar was reviving an old joke: Take something very minor, act as if it's the most important thing in the game, and say you won't buy it for that reason. Most of us have done it at one time or another.

[Nisgeis]

I don't mean to keep going with this, but if the facts in wiki are anywhere near correct (one can't believe everything on there), it states sound through air is 343 m/s, where through water it is 4.3 times faster at 1484 m/s. Of course there are many variables.

Whatever it is, it has a speed, which was my point... it's not instantaneous, as it was in SH4 with the 'realistic sound travel' turned on. Let's hope it's fixed this time round!

i think about 330m/s in air and about 1530m/s in seawater. Depending on temperate and pressure..

And salinity (more salt makes it faster as it's more dense) ;-)

[Jimbuna]

i think about 330m/s in air and about 1530m/s in seawater. Depending on temperate and pressure..

I'm impressed :know:

No need to look it up now :DL

[tommyk]

And salinity (more salt makes it faster as it's more dense) ;-)

jupp, thats why I wrote 'seawater', more specific 'north atlantik seawater', but I think we have it good enough :)

would be interesting to hear the sonar reporting the explosion and then hear it 'yourself' in the tower... but quickjump from sonar to tower is not possible i think..

cheers

[Sailor Steve]

jupp, thats why I wrote 'seawater', more specific 'north atlantik seawater', but I think we have it good enough :)

would be interesting to hear the sonar reporting the explosion and then hear it 'yourself' in the tower... but quickjump from sonar to tower is not possible i think..

cheers
Hydrophones are more sensitive than unaided ears, just as binoculars outperform the naked eye. The sound doesn't travel to the hydrophones any faster though. The soundman can hear things no one else aboard can, but if it's something everyone can hear, he won't hear it any sooner.

[msalama]

...but if it's something everyone can hear, he won't hear it any sooner.How come, if the sound source in question radiates into water and air both, and soundwaves are known to travel faster through liquids & solids than gases? Enquiring buggers with tiny minds want to know :know:

PS / EDIT: Got it. Within typical hydrophone detection ranges the delay between the two is so short that it's not detectable by ear, right? AFAIR the shortest delay the human ear / brain combo decodes as an aural delay is some 20-30 milliseconds, and anything less than that is heard as a phase shift / comb filter effect... am I right?

[jazman]

How come, if the sound source in question radiates into water and air both, and soundwaves are known to travel faster through liquids & solids than gases? Enquiring buggers with tiny minds want to know :know:

PS / EDIT: Got it. Within typical hydrophone detection ranges the delay between the two is so short that it's not detectable by ear, right? AFAIR the shortest delay the human ear / brain combo decodes as an aural delay is some 20-30 milliseconds, and anything less than that is heard as a phase shift / comb filter effect... am I right?

Sound is just a pressure wave. So, a liquid/solid doesn't compress much, so the wave zips through. The wave going through air mushes through a very compressible material. I wouldn't say the difference is 20-30ms for something 500-1000m away. For something 700m away, the sound takes two seconds in air, about 0.45 seconds in water, so you're talking about 1.5 seconds difference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound

[msalama]

I see. So the difference is indeed detectable by plain ear, right?

[TarJak]

No ship damage meters? Thats it ! This game is crap i,m not buying it. And DRM sucks! :haha:

Huh?Oscar is having a little joke. Hence the LOL smilie at the end of his post.:ping:

[tommyk]

Hydrophones are more sensitive than unaided ears, just as binoculars outperform the naked eye. The sound doesn't travel to the hydrophones any faster though. The soundman can hear things no one else aboard can, but if it's something everyone can hear, he won't hear it any sooner.

The sonar WILL hear it sooner than you will hear it on the Tower because sound travels faster in Water than in air!

An Explosion 5km away will be heard by the sonar in 3,3 secounds and you will hear it 15,1 after it goes off.

[mookiemookie]

The sonar WILL hear it sooner than you will hear it on the Tower because sound travels faster in Water than in air!

An Explosion 5km away will be heard by the sonar in 3,3 secounds and you will hear it 16,6 after it goes off.

How is the hydrophone operator going to hear anything if the boat is surfaced? ;)

[tommyk]

How is the hydrophone operator going to hear anything if the boat is surfaced? ;)

haha, you are right!

cheers

[DMB3428]

playing at 78% realism here but for some reason the game didnt take my settings at first, game seems to load pretty fast though i notice during about the halfway point i notice my network activity light blinking.. My internet connection is not the fastest DSL connection but working flawless so far during gameplay

[Frederf]

How is the hydrophone operator going to hear anything if the boat is surfaced? ;)

No, but then again you don't have to be surfaced to see a target. Submarines have these things called periscopes.

One niggle about "realistic sound travel time" was that it was it didn't change the HYDROPHONE BEARING like it does in real life. You see a moving sound source will be heard "where it was" instead of "where it is" thus the bearing to a ship's center not only has to reflect the fact the propellers are in the back of the craft but also that the ship is no longer in the same position it was by the time the sound reaches the hydrophone. Real TDC (at least in fleet boats) accounts for this bearing delay but the hydrophone operator would not hear "lightspeed" sound.

SH4 got these effects wrong, the actual bearing and the hydrophone bearing were "lightspeed" as well as any changes in sound (say the DD RPMs up) were instantaneous to the hydrophone operator. Let's hope SH5 doesn't get this wrong as well.

[karamazovnew]

Let's hope SH5 doesn't get this wrong as well.

I nominate you for the Most Optimistic Person in History Award. :haha:

[Turbografx]

So, we can turn off health bars. This is something we have known for a long time. But how about the mechanics? Is it still a "health point" system? Or when you turn it off does it change?

[Méo]

So, we can turn off health bars. This is something we have known for a long time. But how about the mechanics? Is it still a "health point" system? Or when you turn it off does it change?

I don't remember where, but it has been said before by the devs that the mechanics remains unchanged. Although, the sinking mechanics are more complex than in previous titles.

Again, as far as I know, there's no drama.

[mookiemookie]

No, but then again you don't have to be surfaced to see a target. Submarines have these things called periscopes. Really? Submarines have periscopes? I'll be darned.

[Sailor Steve]

The sonar WILL hear it sooner than you will hear it on the Tower because sound travels faster in Water than in air!

An Explosion 5km away will be heard by the sonar in 3,3 secounds and you will hear it 15,1 after it goes off.
:rotfl2::rotfl2:

No, not at you - at me! Because of the previous periscope question, I was assuming the boat was underwater, and the soundman won't hear it any sooner than I will because I'm also underwater. I didn't even notice the "in the tower" statement!:dead:

Yes, assuming that he can hear it while surfaced, the sound will reach the hydrophones more quickly than it will reach the bridge. But will it be soon enough for him to get to a voice tube to report it to you before you hear it yourself?

[Frederf]

I nominate you for the Most Optimistic Person in History Award. :haha:

I'd like to accept this nomination on behalf of the Academy.

[Jimbuna]

I'd like to accept this nomination on behalf of the Academy.


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[Decoman]

I do not really want to mess up this forum by off topic stuff, but I have this urge to show this awsome applause gif I found somewhere. :oops:

http://www.decoman.net/linked/applause.gif

[Heretic]

I do not really want to mess up this forum by off topic stuff, but I have this urge to show this awsome applause gif I found somewhere. :oops:


Love it! Is that Orson Welles?

[Decoman]

Ah I did not know that. Doing a google search revealed that the gif is allegedly from the movie Citizen Kane.

[Heretic]

Ah I did not know that. Doing a google search revealed that the gif is allegedly from the movie Citizen Kane.

that'd be him then. Thanks

[ShadowMan]

'No ship damage meters' :up:

Whaaa? I've checked this in the options and they still show up. There was even a glitch once that made the health bar of 1 ship to go all the way from left edge to right edge of the screen in binocular view.