German SH5 forum at Subsim? [Archive] - SUBSIM Radio Room Forums

jdkbph

02-26-10, 08:20 AM

I know you're probably looking for votes from people who will actually post here... in German... but I wanted to just get something out there on the general idea of a separate forum.

I am totally in favor of it if it brings in folks who otherwise would not be able to participate in the English language forums. However, the down side is that we in the English language forums may lose out as folks who would otherwise participate may opt for the native language forum instead.

JD

Onkel Neal

02-26-10, 08:24 AM

That's true and likely. In the past I had many non-English forums (in the Wolfpack League) and it did happen. The German forum there, for example, basically moved to another url. :-?

Ideally, having a place here for non-English speaking Germans to post where they will not have their posts erased when a new game comes out, plus being closely associated with the English forum here where Germans who speak both languages post, will be productive for us all. Clearly I think it is best when Germans who speak both languages post in both forums. Cannot have a really good U-boat discussion without them.

HKLE

02-26-10, 08:25 AM

Yes - if UBI is doing, what it is doing now, we should give our German speaking colleaques a forum (mich eingeschlossen - myself included)

Ragtag

02-26-10, 08:29 AM

I voted no. And the reason is that i really want us all to be in one place instead of splitting the good crew we have here ;)

Alex

02-26-10, 08:31 AM

we in the English language forums may lose out as folks who would otherwise participate may opt for the native language forum instead.

And I'd say it's best to have as much forum members as possible, whatever is their language, after all the english speaking Subsim crew could always ask the bilingual german crew for help to decipher german language :O: once an important thing needs to be said and known by all. :cool:

Schunken

02-26-10, 08:34 AM

Feuer Frei!

02-26-10, 08:37 AM

after all the english speaking Subsim crew could always ask the bilingual german crew for help to decipher german language :O: once an important thing needs to be said and known by all. :cool:

Willing and able to assist, (if ever needed) as i am bi-lingual, speak, read and write both fluently, with German being my native language.
:salute:

Bilge_Rat

02-26-10, 08:38 AM

I did not vote. Since I do not speak German, I would not use it and would rather let native German speakers voice their opinion.

Even though I also think it is better to have all discussions on one forum in a common language, Germany has a large number of subsimmers. I had read a long time ago that it was the second biggest market for subsims after the U.S.A. We could get a lot of useful info right here from new posters who would not normally post here, either because they do not speak english or feel more comfortable expressing themselves in German.

Brag

02-26-10, 08:43 AM

Ich habe ja gewahlen als ich mochte mein schlechter Deutch uben. :DL

PhantomLord

02-26-10, 08:43 AM

I vote with yes, but I have a little fear it will "split" the community? We will get differend Information base?

Meanwhile most germans up to 50 years old maybe can understand english quite frankly, I supposed.

And (seen it by myself) you will greatly improfed your english skills over the time ;)

Andreas

Second that.
But on the other hand it is a good idea to integrate brandnew members (all the refugees from ubi.de :O:) and maybe have a base for german modders where they can communicate fast and in their native language.
Lot´s of work for the mods to keep up the information flow between english and german boards.
I´m still on the fence about this... but voted for Yes

Ragtag

02-26-10, 08:45 AM

Well, even though i voted no doesn't mean that i don't want them here :)
It's just the fear of a split crew. But by all means, they are more than welcome :up:

ParaB

02-26-10, 08:45 AM

I'm not really in favour of a german forum on subsim. As others have already mentioned, it would only split the community (a bit). IMO one of the great things about the internet is the ability to communicate with all you fine chaps from all over the world.

It's not that I'm "against" such a forum per se, but I personally don't need one and most probably wouldn't use it.

PhantomLord

02-26-10, 08:46 AM

Ich habe ja gewahlen als ich mochte mein schlechter Deutch uben. :DL

Hope we can have the great adventures of Balz in german some day :D

OakGroove

02-26-10, 08:46 AM

There would be several members cross-posting, passing information. No doubt. There are however some estabished german communities, albeit small, they will experience some increased traffic atm, because of what has been stated already.

Méo

02-26-10, 08:49 AM

I did not vote. Since I do not speak German, I would not use it and would rather let native German speakers voice their opinion.

I think the same.

And I'd say it's best to have as much forum members as possible, whatever is their language

Alex, what about a French forum?

Na, we're probably not enough. :hmmm:

bigboywooly

02-26-10, 08:49 AM

I voted yes

The German Ubi forum is a great place full of talented modders
If you can attract them here in a forum they can use in their own language well its all good
Just as some of us dont post in foreign language forums because of our lack of language skills its the same for other language speakers posting here too

Just because you have a seperate German forum doesnt mean there wont be cross posting etc

Go for it

Ragtag

02-26-10, 08:50 AM

One thing that just came to mind is that the additions of members probably will help out Neal financially with donations. That's actually a very good reason for a yes.

Feuer Frei!

02-26-10, 08:50 AM

I voted yes, but see other people's concerns re a seperate forum as justified as well.....
you will find that most Germans have an intermediate to advanced command of the English language, considering it's status in the E.U. (business, economics, politics, trade etc etc...) you will find that most non-English speaking countries in the E.U. have at minimum a average understanding of the English language...
the poll results will be interesting...

jimimadrid

02-26-10, 08:53 AM

urfisch

02-26-10, 08:53 AM

ich habe für ja gestimmt und würde mich auch als moderator anbieten...

i voted yes, and i volunteer to be a moderator...

good idea so far...thank you neal. we have a lot of german people here. especially now as the german subsection of sh5 at ubi is monitored with eagles eyes, looking for the next guy to be banned...i guess many would love to come here! where it is warm and nice...

;)

Feuer Frei!

02-26-10, 08:56 AM

It would nice to have a german forum for people like me that are not so familiar with the english language.
Otherwise i like to see all nations discussing and working together in this great forum.
Hmmm. Very hard decission.:06:
I see you are from Augsburg, my home town...
Viele Gruesse, Kaleun :salute:
P.S. your English is very good.

jimimadrid

02-26-10, 08:58 AM

I see you are from Augsburg, my home town...
Viele Gruesse, Kaleun :salute:
P.S. your English is very good.

Jou das ist ja wunderbar. Noch ein Augsburger.
Viele Grüße zurück. Vielleicht sieht man sich ja.

Feuer Frei!

02-26-10, 09:05 AM

Jou das ist ja wunderbar. Noch ein Augsburger.
Viele Grüße zurück. Vielleicht sieht man sich ja.
Auf jeden Fall, Herr Kaleun....bin meistens da und schleich mich so 'rum in dem Forum, Gute Jagd :salute:

Letum

02-26-10, 09:11 AM

Neal! Arrgh!

You HAVE to have a 'I'm not a German speaker' option.

At best you get a load of irrelevant answers both ways. At worse all the
non-German speakers will all vote for the same option and distort the poll.

derblaueClaus

02-26-10, 09:15 AM

Voted yes. I hope the quality of the englishspeaking-part is transferable to a germanspeaking-part. ;) If you take a look at the ubi.de-Forums its sometimes just horrorbile to read what is postet there.:shifty:

PhantomLord

02-26-10, 09:22 AM

If this german section is going to happen... count me in as a mod. I voted "yes" only...

Brag

02-26-10, 09:28 AM

Hope we can have the great adventures of Balz in german some day :D

Einz, zwei, hoochie woochie :D

Alex

02-26-10, 09:42 AM

Alex, what about a French forum?

Na, we're probably not enough. :hmmm:

Hmm, why not, after all.
But the only french members that I know currently (Kapitan_Zur_See and Mikhayl) are both more fluent in english than I am, ROFLMAO. :D

I don't think Subsim needs a french forum actually, as our community on the site is still a minority. ;)

mookiemookie

02-26-10, 09:50 AM

I don't speak German, but I voted yes. Because really, why not? I don't think it will splinter our community as much as it will bring new blood in.

frau kaleun

02-26-10, 09:50 AM

I voted yes, because it might motivate me to start studying the language for realz. :DL

Edit: TBH I was sort of surprised when I first came here that there wasn't a German language forum already.

Brag

02-26-10, 09:52 AM

Hmm, why not, after all.
But the only french members I know of currently (Kapitan_Zur_See and Mikhayl) are both more fluent in english than I am, ROFLMAO. :D

I don't think Subsim needs a french forum actually, as our community on the site is still a minority. ;)

C'est pas une mouvese idee, je voudre bien participe avec mon Fracais qui est penible.:cry:

piri_reis

02-26-10, 10:00 AM

Voted yes.
The more people Subsim has, the more productive and stronger we get.

Carotio

02-26-10, 10:07 AM

I have had Silent Hunter Mods Forum (http://www.silenthuntermods.com/forum/) as a multi-language forum since the very beginning, but it does not accumulate much more native language forum members being active in their own languages anyway. And I seriously doubt it will be any better in Subsim. Subsim is still regarded as an anglophone forum, and the German native speaking members and guests will most likely frequent the German Ubi forum and MarineSims.de the most as they have always done.

Then again, it can't hurt...

Sharkfin

02-26-10, 10:10 AM

I voted no. And the reason is that i really want us all to be in one place instead of splitting the good crew we have here ;)

signed and voted therefore no.

Sailor Steve

02-26-10, 10:17 AM

There is already a Polish forum, a Spanish forum and a Chinese (?) forum, so why not German and French?

As with a couple of others, though, I declined to vote, since I wouldn't be using it anyway.

danasan

02-26-10, 10:22 AM

I voted "Yes" for some reasons and some ideas growing at the moment. But it is not me to introduce that ideas.

Well, if there is a demand for it, I would try and translate some German things into English from time to time...

danasan

ichso

02-26-10, 10:23 AM

I voted no. And the reason is that i really want us all to be in one place instead of splitting the good crew we have here ;)

Same here.
Although I think that it might be helpful in terms of tips and strategies to the game for some people. But on the other hand all of the mod stuff could become a bit too cluttered.

Chicony

02-26-10, 10:24 AM

Ich habe ja gewahlen als ich mochte mein schlechter Deutch uben. :DL

Wir üben mit dir und in 2 Monaten kannst du es so perfekt, das du "Das Boot" ohne Untertitel schauen kannst. :03: :yeah:

LTnico

02-26-10, 10:31 AM

is there also a dutch forum comming??:O:

Brag

02-26-10, 10:33 AM

Wir üben mit dir und in 2 Monaten kannst du es so perfekt, das du "Das Boot" ohne Untertitel schauen kannst. :03: :yeah:

Danke,
Hofentlich est wird so sein.
Ich verstehe besser als ich schreibe

Dellwig

02-26-10, 10:34 AM

Voted "Ja", because I have mostly no problems in reading your posts, but sometimes it is hard for me to write in english. A wrong chosen word / translation can change the meaning of a post. So I would sometimes be happy to post in my native language.

Thomen

02-26-10, 10:36 AM

I am torn about this.. on the other hand it would be nice, but then again as it was mentioned before, many Germans do speak English in one form or another.

But then again, it may be a valuable resource for the whole community.

Tough decision. Why not test it? Open a German forum and let it run for x month to see if it really is worth it? From the contributions and participation you will be able to gauge the impact and acceptance.

Alex

02-26-10, 10:48 AM

@ Brag : Ton français est plus ou moins aussi bon que mon anglais, le principal étant qu'on te comprenne. :up:

Notre langue n'est pas la plus facile, mais quand on a de la patience... :|\\

Bonne chance pour la suite ! :sunny:

longam

02-26-10, 10:53 AM

wienerschnitzel, ja. Seems like it would be more helpful for all in the long run.

FIREWALL

02-26-10, 10:57 AM

Next thing you know the Brits will want their own language forum. :har::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

Seriously I'm for it. :up:

urfisch

02-26-10, 11:14 AM

nice feedback regarding a german sub forum here...by the way: WE are the builders of the worlds best submarines in ww2...and actually a nation building high tech h2 uboats today.

;)

FIREWALL

02-26-10, 11:20 AM

And we were the Worlds best builders of ships to sink them. :03:

urfisch

02-26-10, 11:29 AM

And we were the Worlds best builders of ships to sink them. :03:

no, not the ships sunk them...your technical advance did it and our major failure did it: totally mislead kriegsmarine command...

;)

OakGroove

02-26-10, 11:31 AM

And we were the Worlds best builders of ships to sink them. :03:

Touchè.

Méo

02-26-10, 11:32 AM

There is already a Polish forum, a Spanish forum and a Chinese (?) forum, so why not German and French?

True! I haven't noticed before!! :oops:

@ Brag : Ton français est plus ou moins aussi bon que mon anglais, le principal étant qu'on te comprenne. :up:

Ça nous rappelle aussi toute la diversité et la nécessité d'une certaine tolérance. :hmmm::03:

It reminds us all the diversity and the necessity for a certain tolerance.

Friedl9te

02-26-10, 11:33 AM

I voted YES, because the situation at the german UBI forum is not very satisfying for some reasons.

We have some good forums here in good old europe, but they are all more ore less attached to clans. (AOTD /9te/Marine Sims)

There are many talented modders in the UBI forum and I think we all could benefit from each other, meeting in one forum. even if there is a small language barrier.

I am looking forward to see a german forum here at subsim.com :)

Feuer Frei!

02-26-10, 11:34 AM

no, not the ships sunk them...your technical advance did it and our major failure did it: totally mislead kriegsmarine command...

;)

Not even sure about the technical advance side of things, certainly the lack of man power, lack of funds, bad decisions from the top and the Enigma machine being captured moreso...

Bilge_Rat

02-26-10, 11:36 AM

C'est pas une mouvese idee, je voudre bien participe avec mon Fracais qui est penible.:cry:

Ton français n'est pas trop mal. :arrgh!:

Bilge_Rat

02-26-10, 11:38 AM

True! I haven't noticed before!! :oops:

Ça nous rappelle aussi toute la diversité et la nécessité d'une certaine tolérance. :hmmm::03:

It reminds us all the diversity and the necessity for a certain tolerance.

Tout les Francophones ici sont bilingues. C'est mon allemand que je dois pratiquer. :arrgh!:

Knollepops

02-26-10, 11:54 AM

Im from germany, but voted no.
Never change a running system.:03:

Adriatico

02-26-10, 11:54 AM

If you ask Neal... I would prefer to have a German internet connection, with their reliability of connection and speed.:03:

But forum addition would be just fine... just to compensate all the members leaving the Subsim... due to it's inevitable OSP future.
:shifty:

Schultzy

02-26-10, 11:59 AM

Jo, bin dafür.

ichso

02-26-10, 12:00 PM

Thomen

02-26-10, 12:39 PM

Why just dedicate a German sub forum to SH5? Why not making it for all Subsim topics, including flight sims, tank sims etc?

Nisgeis

02-26-10, 12:53 PM

I'm not voting, but if I were to:

Yes to giving the Ubisoft Refugees a place they can talk about the facts of SH5 ownership. No to having a p***ing contest about who built the best boats 70 years ago.
:yeah:

HKLE

02-26-10, 01:27 PM

And I'd say it's best to have as much forum members as possible, whatever is their language, after all the english speaking Subsim crew could always ask the bilingual german crew for help to decipher german language :O: once an important thing needs to be said and known by all. :cool:

Acknowledged - given that I have time to translate

greetings from Austria

Onkel Neal

02-26-10, 01:46 PM

Well, if we open a German Subsim forum for people who only speak German... or want to speak German with people who only speak German; then the German/English speakers can still discuss with us English only speakers in the main forums, right?

You guys who speak German/English, would you still be part of our conversations in the English only forums? I like having Germans in a U-boat forum to talk with, we wouldn't want to lose you.

frau kaleun

02-26-10, 01:48 PM

tommyk

02-26-10, 01:48 PM

Nein, lets stay together

ENtek-IO

02-26-10, 02:00 PM

I voted with no.
I am around this board since its first versions, i think that was even before 2000 ,although it never was necessary from my perspective to even have a account before 2005.

In those early times there were no relevant German activity's site wise.
Subsim was and even today is THE site for this topic, period.

The international standard for the internet is English,not German and especially not Chinese, Sorry but wtf Chinese???!

They probably need a forum to "collect" ideas for subs eh? anyways nm.

In my experience Germans are mostly ignorant in regard to English speaking sites ,even if they have some understanding of the language.

Imagine the beelike Chinese would behave like that,they would have no chance to spy adequately on us, what a shame , but they don't, they learn the languages of the country's they try to infiltrate.

I embraced the Internet for its boundlessness,and what it has become today has only remotely to do with the original spirit, today we got nations in the net, again with isolated groups Separated by language barriers.. Something i don't support.

Giving them a little nest will not help at all,that is just from my general internet experience and being an admin for an american server cluster for several years .

After 98 the masses that flooded the internet,had quite a simillar effect a dephtcharge has for a u-boat, it draged the whole intellectual level down.

Which amounts to,.. me , giving them the tip, to learn English and adapt.

That is for all the best solution.

IMHO:sunny::woot:

The Enigma

02-26-10, 02:11 PM

I voted yes, great idea.

Georg_Unterberg

02-26-10, 02:11 PM

Nein, lets stay together

And that's the reason why I voted "No".

Nisgeis

02-26-10, 02:18 PM

So, the Germans are voting no and the non-Germans yes? Interesting :doh:.

HundertzehnGustav

02-26-10, 02:24 PM

i believe in one subsim saloon, a melting pot of all cultures. People from all over the worlt post here, as well as a relatively strong nin english speaking german gropup.
But still... one forum, one crowd, one gang, one bunch of grey wolves

Alex

02-26-10, 02:38 PM

So, the Germans are voting no and the non-Germans yes? Interesting :doh:.

Hehe.

@ Neal : Perhaps posting this poll at Ubi would be better, cause most of all Subsim forum members who are german actually speak english fluently !
Asking true german speakers what they think about the creation of such a section of the forum that would be dedicated to them could be fine. :arrgh!:

My 2 cents. :|\\

subvers4

02-26-10, 03:06 PM

I voted yes, for two reasons mainly. This is a u-boat sim, most of us on here are always trying for as much immersion as possible, IMHO a bit of exposure to the native language of the u-boat crews would add to the overall experience. After all, how many times have we read derogatory comments about the unnatural accents/language being used in the sim ?
Also, while it's very true that most of the German native speakers on here speak very good English, ( better than many native English speakers I know, including my apprentice ! ), not all do.
My second reason for voting yes is purely selfish, I spent a few years in my younger days living and working in Germany, and picked up the language as best I could. I would love the chance to try and better my German, if my German colleagues on here could put up with me inflicting my poor German upon them for a while, till I learned how not to abuse their mother tongue ! ;)

Hitman

02-26-10, 03:17 PM

I voted yes for the fact that there are also spanish, polish, japanese, etc forums here, and as such, find it of justice.

BUT in my opinion the good thing about subsim-com is to serve as meeting point for people of different nations through the english language, and as such, we run the risk of splitting the community. The WPL is a good proof of what happens: When people start making their friends and getting used to speak in their language, they end up leaving to rise their community elsewhere. Not that I'm against it, obviously -quite the opposite- but I don't think that's the reason-of-being for subsim.com

:sunny:

Hitman

02-26-10, 03:20 PM

So, the Germans are voting no and the non-Germans yes? Interesting :doh:. But of course, what else would you have expected? Germans are practical, reasoning guys, while you britians and anglosaxons have a romantic vein -probably the result of your half-french heritage- that causes an inclination to such things :haha:

P.D. I count as german because of my family and education ;)

The Enigma

02-26-10, 03:23 PM

I count as german because of my family and education ;)

Sheisse :haha:

ichso

02-26-10, 03:30 PM

You guys who speak German/English, would you still be part of our conversations in the English only forums? I like having Germans in a U-boat forum to talk with, we wouldn't want to lose you.

Like we could ever leave you ... :oops:

So, the Germans are voting no and the non-Germans yes? Interesting :doh:.

Weirdly funny, but count me as guilty too :woot:

KL-alfman

02-26-10, 03:39 PM

You guys who speak German/English, would you still be part of our conversations in the English only forums?

voted yes, just for giving people the possibilty to gather here at SubSim even if they like to read and write only in their native language.
but I'm afraid I would rarely visit this german subforum because I like the internationality in the main forums. and to be forced to deal with world's language nr1 really helps to improve one's vocabulary ....

Rockin Robbins

02-26-10, 03:51 PM

Voted yes because of the invaluable contributions to Subsim by German speaking members. If anyone has earned their own forum they have!:up:

Just require them to continue to practice their English here!:haha:

coronas

02-26-10, 05:10 PM

voted yes, just for giving people the possibilty to gather here at SubSim even if they like to read and write only in their native language.
but I'm afraid I would rarely visit this german subforum because I like the internationality in the main forums. and to be forced to deal with world's language nr1 really helps to improve one's vocabulary ....

Well said. I agree.
:up:

Onkel Neal

02-26-10, 05:13 PM

Hehe.

@ Neal : Perhaps posting this poll at Ubi would be better, cause most of all Subsim forum members who are german actually speak english fluently !
Asking true german speakers what they think about the creation of such a section of the forum that would be dedicated to them could be fine. :arrgh!:

My 2 cents. :|\\

Good point, but I don't think recruiting unhappy people at another forum is a good idea :) However, if someone else mentions that Subsim is cranking up a German-language forum, well, I guess that's ok, right?

Nisgeis

02-26-10, 05:20 PM

However, if someone else mentions that Subsim is cranking up a German-language forum, well, I guess that's ok, right?

If only I spoke German and was as passively devious as you.

derblaueClaus

02-26-10, 05:34 PM

Alex

02-26-10, 05:41 PM

@ Nisgeis : :D

@ Neal : yep, I guess so. Especially as an ubi admin/mod came here requesting Subsim forum members to participate to some contest related to their forum... I actually can't see a single reason why Ubi forum members shouldn't hear about Subsim soon. ;)

urfisch

02-26-10, 05:42 PM

me too...i think this is a really good idea. i often came across the situation german modders tried to communicate their stuff and even other german members where answering in english. maybe we get this process more fluently, if we would have a german forum here. also its much more independent and focussed on the main topic and our all passion: uboats

:salute:

AND

maybe we will attract more people to get here and share their skills with us.

:know:

Michal788

02-26-10, 06:11 PM

Nein, ich will gar nicht haben deutsche Forum hier.

Fischii

02-26-10, 06:14 PM

Hallo Neal

ja das wäre super. Mein Englisch leider sehr schlecht, zum lesen reicht es grade noch.

Also ich würde mich sehr über ein deutschen foren bereich hier freuen!!!

Danke!!

Asakura

02-26-10, 07:05 PM

Sure, why not? Let's have a german section! :salute:

I was also thinking about offering service as moderator, but hmmm, not sure if I could handle a big crowd. I've been moderating some forums until now, but with a user amount of less than 100. Guess this forum would be too much for me. ^^;

Papa Schulz

02-26-10, 08:28 PM

I voted yes - I am German and my English is not perfect. So I would prefer to write my further posts in German.

jimimadrid

02-27-10, 12:31 AM

Nein, ich will gar nicht haben deutsche Forum hier.

OK,until yet i don't vote because i'm not sure.

But now i voted "YES" - Let's do.

LiveGoat

02-27-10, 12:49 AM

Ja.

Highbury

02-27-10, 12:52 AM

I voted no. I have seen several Germans speak to each other in their own language on these forums and it has never been an issue that I have seen.

I also don't like the potential split in the community. Imagine if we had this a couple years ago, Tomi's mod threads would probably not be in the "English" forum :O:

ichso

02-27-10, 04:27 AM

Hallo Neal

ja das wäre super. Mein Englisch leider sehr schlecht, zum lesen reicht es grade noch.

Also ich würde mich sehr über ein deutschen foren bereich hier freuen!!!

Danke!!

Hi Neal,

that would be great. Sadly, my english is very bad, barely enough to read it.
I would highly appreciate a german sub section around here.

Thanks

Noren

02-27-10, 08:05 AM

I cant see why not?!?

Many of us read both languages and the possibility of enrichment
would be enough to motivate this. Diversity will make both groups
stronger and Im sure ideas will flow back and forth.

Germany is after all a 80+ million hi-tech country that has a lot to offer.

ichso

02-27-10, 08:07 AM

Germany is after all a 80+ million hi-tech country that has a lot to offer.
Like people capable of expressing themselves in english ? :DL

Noren

02-27-10, 08:12 AM

True. You are much better than the Italians and Greek at this, even those who directly work with tourists :D

Steeltrap

02-27-10, 10:21 AM

Well a little OT, but I can't resist....

Does anyone else appreciate the irony of Germans fleeing a forum run by a French company that's conducting ruthless censorship, all concerning a game about German submarines in WWII?

What's more, asking for refugee status in a forum run by Americans speaking English (well, as close to that as they ever get), who are also, in game, sinking 'their own' ships?

Meanwhile, the game was developed in Romania....as was most of the oil on which said submarines ran.

Perhaps we could get UbiSoft to relocate their headquarters to Vichy??

:D:D:D

Steeltrap

02-27-10, 10:23 AM

True. You are much better than the Italians and Greek at this, even those who directly work with tourists :D

The Greeks should learn German, seeing as Germany is getting pressured to buy their country.....:haha:

urfisch

02-27-10, 10:27 AM

KL-alfman

02-27-10, 11:23 AM

LiveGoat

02-27-10, 02:28 PM

It'll also be ironic if, after the whole OSP thing is abandoned that Ubi states: "Bet uv course, wee were aganst zee dee ah rehm all aloahng-uh":rotfl2:

:DL
yes, this really is ironic. :D

Nisgeis

02-27-10, 03:04 PM

No Neal! We don't want the WHOLE forum in German!

Asakura

02-27-10, 03:04 PM

You guys (except Nisgeis above me) are going way too much off-topic. This is about the german forum section. Steeltrap's facts are interesting, but if you want to talk about them you should open a new thread. Thank you or "Dankeschön". :D

I don't see a threat that the community will split up because of a german section by the way. Why should it? And why didn't the community already split up after the japanese section or any other section that was added then? I don't think a german forum section will do such severe damage. :)

ReFaN

02-27-10, 03:05 PM

No Neal! We don't want the WHOLE forum in German!

RUN, FLEE! :o

Sailor Steve

02-27-10, 03:08 PM

...Americans speaking English (well, as close to that as they ever get)
Look hews tawking, mite.
:rotfl2:

No, I completely agree, it is funny. I changed my mind. I've decided to promote it, even though all the German I know comes from playing these games.

sergei

02-27-10, 03:11 PM

My profile has turned into German.
Did I miss the memo?

Oberon

02-27-10, 03:13 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InsspuvAmBs

Sailor Steve

02-27-10, 03:13 PM

My profile has turned into German.
Did I miss the memo?
I was going to mention that in the 'Comments' forum, but now that you brought it up...:hmmm:

Nisgeis

02-27-10, 03:13 PM

Ah, von Sergei, I think it's Neal 'finely tuning' something with a sledgehammer to set up the German forums.

sergei

02-27-10, 03:15 PM

'finely tuning' something with a sledgehammer

That's the kind of maintenance I tend to do. :DL

Sgtmonkeynads

02-27-10, 03:15 PM

Should we have an English forum here at SubSim?

HundertzehnGustav

02-27-10, 03:17 PM

?

what is subsim?
Can i have a Letzebuerger Forum there too?

frau kaleun

02-27-10, 03:27 PM

Should we have an English forum here at SubSim?

:rotfl2:

Onkel Neal

02-27-10, 03:28 PM

I was going to mention that in the 'Comments' forum, but now that you brought it up...:hmmm:

I'm gonna change your name to Von Sailor Steve! :D

Yeah, that's no glitch, that's me! :har:

Onkel Neal

02-27-10, 03:28 PM

No Neal! We don't want the WHOLE forum in German!

:har:

Well, you guys said you wanted a German language forum!! :doh:

Sailor Steve

02-27-10, 03:31 PM

I'm gonna change your name to Von Sailor Steve! :D
Call me anything you want. Just don't call me late for the barbeque!

Sailor Man Hiltz von Zerstorer von Stevenheimer

Yeah, that's no glitch, that's me! :har:
Your German is pretty good then!

frau kaleun

02-27-10, 03:34 PM

I now want to see a "Hitler rant" video where der Fuehrer pitches a fit because he logged into Subsim and everything was in German. :O:

danasan

02-27-10, 03:40 PM

I now want to see a "Hitler rant" video where der Fuehrer pitches a fit because he logged into Subsim and everything was in German. :O:

So which kind of subtitles would you prefer ?

frau kaleun

02-27-10, 03:42 PM

So which kind of subtitles would you prefer ?

:haha:

English please.

"Now who am I supposed to practice my English with... STALIN?!?"

Hitman

02-27-10, 04:03 PM

But Neal, are you aware we will be willing in some time to change the domain to Ubootsim.com? Because once you get us german-minded perfectionists started, you won't be able to rest in peace until everything works perfectly, exactly, and with the utmost efficiency and precision, you know :O:

I'm a very punctual guy, but when some people notice it and say "You arrived with british punctuality" I answer them always: "No Sir, I arrived with german exactitude" :haha:

Onkel Neal

02-27-10, 04:14 PM

But Neal, are you aware we will be willing in some time to change the domain to Ubootsim.com?

Nah, that name is taken.

Elder-Pirate

02-27-10, 04:33 PM

Ok, many people have asked for a German forum here. Let's see if there is enough interest. Danke!

Tell you what Neal, you vote for me ( either way ) as I'm drawn on the line.:DL

Maybe I could just close my eyes and make a stab at the poll? :arrgh!::rotfl2:

LiveGoat

02-27-10, 05:22 PM

Reminds me of a German comedian I saw a few years ago.

German Comedian: "Before I begin my routine I'd like to say that the stereotype of german people being obsessed with order and regimentation is false, nothing could be further from the truth.

And now, joke number one..." :rotfl2:

The guy was brilliant.

But Neal, are you aware we will be willing in some time to change the domain to Ubootsim.com? Because once you get us german-minded perfectionists started, you won't be able to rest in peace until everything works perfectly, exactly, and with the utmost efficiency and precision, you know :O:

I'm a very punctual guy, but when some people notice it and say "You arrived with british punctuality" I answer them always: "No Sir, I arrived with german exactitude" :haha:

h.sie

02-27-10, 05:53 PM

I voted NO, although I am german, because there are already 3 or more german speaking subsim forums, so why open another one?

I fear the community will split into two parts.

Alex

02-27-10, 06:37 PM

I voted NO, although I am german, because there are already 3 or more german speaking subsim forums, so why open another one?

Ssshh ! Neal wants to make your life easier, and you don't have a choice ! :stare:

:O:

Of course your fear is legitimate, Sir. :)
But you certainly think this way because you speak english fluently and can converse with everyone in here just as you can in german. :up:

But, not all german players speak english as fluently as you do. Yet they would all like to talk about U-Boote just as we do. So the forum must be open to everyone ! :up:

A wise man said "None of us are as clever as all of us". :|\\

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2884/drunkcob.gif

Onkel Neal

02-27-10, 09:06 PM

It's there if you need it. Thing about corporate forums, they are there only as long as they have a game to sell.

McHibbins

02-28-10, 01:47 AM

Cheers Neal,

what should I say ? It´s not important but nice to have one....

A6Intruder

02-28-10, 04:46 AM

Cheers Neal,

It´s not important but nice to have one....

Thats also my thought.
Best regards:salute:

Snake Man

02-28-10, 06:17 AM

Ok, many people have asked for a German forum here. Let's see if there is enough interest. Danke!
Is there way in vbulletin to disable certain forum areas, like the created german forum?

No offense to any germans, but why in the world do we have to suffer for reading german in these forums, I just absolutely don't get it.

I'm very saddened by the fact that you have decided to open such forum here and now the german area/posts pop up in my new posts list. If I want to read german I go to some .de forum. With this decision you're only alienating your existing users. Very sad indeed.

Sailor Steve

02-28-10, 04:37 PM

He's not alienating anyone, except maybe you. There are several forums I never read, and having one more on the list doesn't bother me at all.

Nisgeis

02-28-10, 04:46 PM

It would make more sense, e.g. match the other forums, if it were a sub forum of the International section, rather than being a sub forum of the III - 4 - 5 forum.

You know, just from a stylistical point of view.

Sailor Steve

02-28-10, 06:08 PM

Agreed. That's where I thought it would be.

Onkel Neal

02-28-10, 06:21 PM

Is there way in vbulletin to disable certain forum areas, like the created german forum?

No offense to any germans, but why in the world do we have to suffer for reading german in these forums, I just absolutely don't get it.

I'm very saddened by the fact that you have decided to open such forum here and now the german area/posts pop up in my new posts list. If I want to read german I go to some .de forum. With this decision you're only alienating your existing users. Very sad indeed.

Sorry, there's a big world out there and we welcome it all.

It would make more sense, e.g. match the other forums, if it were a sub forum of the International section, rather than being a sub forum of the III - 4 - 5 forum.

You know, just from a stylistical point of view.

Yeah, after it gets going I will probably move it down there... "down there", sounds like some kind of punishment, doesn't it?