Gadaffi Declares Holy War on Switzerland

[Schroeder]

Is anyone still supposed to take that guy seriously?:dead:

http://en.afrik.com/article17051.html

[HunterICX]

He can drown in his own Sh¡te....

HunterICX

[Letum]

I declare holy war on you all!

/burns your embassy.

[Ishmael]

As I previously stated on a different board on this subject:

I guess he banks in the Cayman Islands

[Skybird]

The EU's Ashton said that his declaration was coming at an unfortunate point of time.

I assume that is as tough a comment as you can get from the slimy EU. Maybe we should get a commission deciding on a more pleasant time of the year when Lybian djihad would be more appreciable.

The EU's future lies in close and trustful relations with Lybia, never forget that.

[Oberon]

As I previously stated on a different board on this subject:

I guess he banks in the Cayman Islands

I'll raise you a similar statement and on the same board:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=162464

[Ishmael]

I'll raise you a similar statement and on the same board:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=162464

GMTA Dude!

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/6508/dukes3.jpg

[Tribesman]

Wow this is complicated stuff.

Is anyone still supposed to take that guy seriously?
errrrrrr....no.
Look at the article, its an absolute riot of a joke.
Simple stuff
Even if by some miracle of alternate dimensions Daffys little rant could actually bear any wieght then the only people who might have to take notice of his rant are those who would be under no obligation to pay any attention to it at all.

[Konovalov]

Is anyone still supposed to take that guy seriously?:dead:

http://en.afrik.com/article17051.html
Has anyone taken the guy seriously for the last few decades? Oh hold on, there once was a personal visit by a PM to see the old Colonel in his tent in Libya. I think his name was Tony. :03:

[Task Force]

Well good luck trying to attack switzerland... tryed it once... was quite hard, they had plenty of mountains and forts...:rotfl2:

But on a more serious note...

Hmm... sounds like a class A nut job...:doh:

[Jimbuna]

He's never been the same since he hit his head whilst training to be a camel jockey :hmmm:

[ReFaN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qxnu74vd4E

[Jimbuna]

I wonder if he realises the Swiss modelled the cuckoo clock on their opinion of him :DL

[krashkart]

The guy's been a complete joke as long as I can remember. Now he wants war with Switzerland? Pssshh! More power to ya, Q. :yeah:

[Platapus]

I would not worry too much about this.

1. Jihad can mean several things. It is incorrect to assume that Jihad always implies violence.

2. Libya is Sunni and fatwa such as this are non-binding.

3. Only under the loosest interpretation of Islamic scholarship could Gaddafi be considered a serious authority to issue such a fatwa.

4. Gaddafi most certainly does not have the scholarly authority to declare any group or action as being an apostate. He is not an Islamic scholar of any standing.

This is just some politician getting up on his hind legs and yappin. :nope:

Best thing to do is ignore him. He is nothing.

[CaptainHaplo]

Apparently he is hoping that the Swiss will follow the lead or Reynoldus Magnus and drop a bomb on one his tents and kill a wife or two so he can get a few more.

[Oberon]

If that was the case Cap, there'd be a helluva lot more Jihads declared the world over ;)

[krashkart]

I would not worry too much about this.

1. Jihad can mean several things. It is incorrect to assume that Jihad always implies violence.

2. Libya is Sunni and fatwa such as this are non-binding.

3. Only under the loosest interpretation of Islamic scholarship could Gaddafi be considered a serious authority to issue such a fatwa.

4. Gaddafi most certainly does not have the scholarly authority to declare any group or action as being an apostate. He is not an Islamic scholar of any standing.


Hey, thanks Platapus. That cleared a few things up for me. :DL

[Ishmael]

He should take heed of an incident during WW2 when the German Military Attache to Switzerland was talking to the Commanding General of the Swiss Army. The Attache told the Swiss General that Germany had troops outnumbering the Swiss Army 4-to-1 on the borders and asked the General what the Swiss would do if they invaded. Here is the General's answer:

Every Swiss soldier will fire four rounds.

[krashkart]

He should take heed of an incident during WW2 when the German Military Attache to Switzerland was talking to the Commanding General of the Swiss Army. The Attache told the Swiss General that Germany had troops outnumbering the Swiss Army 4-to-1 on the borders and asked the General what the Swiss would do if they invaded. Here is the General's answer:

Every Swiss soldier will fire four rounds.

Don't mess with the Swiss. :har:

[Skybird]

1. Jihad can mean several things. It is incorrect to assume that Jihad always implies violence.
(...)
4. scholarly authority to declare any group or action as being an apostate.


Sometimes there is made a differentiation between small and great jihad.

The smaller jihad means the inner fight of the individual against thoughts and emotions that could distract him from staying nfocussed on the quran as the only source of wisdom, revelation, and answer to question of life. This form of jihad is a form of internalised aggression against oneself - but could also become a form of violence against others in a person's close social environment if there the source of such a distraction is located. For example a person amongst friends that asks questions that trouble the blind trust of the individual into the dogma of the Quran and its totalitarian claim for control of all levels of individual and social and communal life.

the great jihad bases on the separation of the world into dar al-islam (house of islam) and dar al-harb (the house of war). All non-muslim countries and places are enemy territory that by it'S mere existence poses a threat to Islam: peace therefor can only be where no threat exists that could put Islam's claim for total dominance into question. In other words: peace means total, undisputed Islamic control of all there is. This is why islam seeks global domiance and wants to rule all countries as a way to acchieve ultimate final peace - under the banner of islam. There cannot be peace as long as there is something left that is not Islamic. This greater jihad always is an aggression that is directed at infidel other people, and their countries. islam excuses this conquest as a way to create peace by unity.

Jihad knows the jihad of the heart, the jihad od the tongue, and the jihad of the hand. Muslims living in foreign countries but are still a minority without influence, commit to the jihad of the heart, that is directed towards the inner self, to keep it Muslim and pure in this "dirty" place, and also incldues the systematic indoctrination and deception of infidels. when the muslim minorty has acchieved demographic chnages in the infected hosting society, jihad of the tongue begins, which means that the laws of the hosting cvountry gets claimed for the purpose of Islam, and get turned against the hosting nation to make it more and more defenseless against islamisation - on the absis of it's ver yown laws that forbid it to act. That is what we currently see happening in the Western nations of Europe. The jiohad of the tongue turns into the joihad of the hand, when the muslim group has become so influential and powerful and has infiltrated key structures of the political deicison making hierarchy, legislation, jurisdiction so that islam can openly and if needed: violently reach out to gain ultimate control and power in this soceity/nation while being covered by the very rules of this society itself.

Jihad is a thing of aggression, expansion and violence, both the smaller and the greater jihad, do not be mistaken here. The erection of islamic theocratic states bases on and concludes from the Quran itself, and is not negotiable.

Also, it does not take a fatwa to declare persons or groups as apostates. Who is an apostate again is defined by statements directly rooting in the Quran.

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In Austria, a new group of Muslim apostates has formed up, named Central Council of ex-Muslims. the chariman Cahit Caya has some very correct things to say in this interview, and calls Islam a Herrenkultur, parallel to the term Herrenrasse.

http://www.vol.at/news/vorarlberg/artikel/offiziell-keine-austritte-aus-dem-islam/cn/news-20100220-11161154

And Caya says soemthing in his own words that I have repateedly been attacked for on this board, when I indicated Muslims who indeed stand up for the principles of Western culture and values in islamic understanding are not muslim at all, he says:

Viele hier lebende Muslime sind bereits Ex-Muslime, ohne es zu wissen. Ihre Lebensweisen haben mit dem von streng Gläubigen gepredigten Islam nicht mehr viel zu tun. Niemand soll seine Identität leugnen müssen. Aber wer sich dafür schämt, sollte sich überlegen woran das liegt.
Translation: Many Muslims living here are already non-Muslims just without knowing it. Their way of living does not have much to do anymore with the path of Islam taught by strict believers. Nobody should need to hide his identity/origin. but who feels ashamed of it, should start thinling about why that is so."

And an English site run by and on the issue of apostates:
http://www.apostatesofislam.com/
I know two guys on their name list personally. Let me tell you their decision gave them a freedom in life they do not want to miss anymore, but also put them at risk and caused them losses which nevertheless makes life a constant fight for them. But they fight as free man for truth, no more as slaves for lies - and that's what makes the difference for them.

[Reece]

This is just some politician getting up on his hind legs and yappin. :nope:

Best thing to do is ignore him. He is nothing.Hmm, I thought he was a piece of sh!t!:hmmm:

[Platapus]

Much trouble could be prevented if more people simply ignored what politicians say. :D

[krashkart]

Hmm, I thought he was a piece of sh!t!:hmmm:

At least he isn't blaming the States for anything this time. Better watch out, though, Reece. I bet Hugo Chavez will start ranting about Australia's intentions to invade pretty soon. :har:

[Reece]

At least he isn't blaming the States for anything this time. Better watch out, though, Reece. I bet Hugo Chavez will start ranting about Australia's intentions to invade pretty soon. :har:Politics!:yawn: More hot air, Penny will sort him out! :03:

[Catfish]

Hello,

so Gaddafi declares the Djihad - this means war !

- next thing Switzerland should do is raise its alert level to red, high, whatever - or better first introduce such a thing at all
- all muslim salesmen and families will be flown out, to Saudi-Arabia, or elsewhere, maybe Libya.
- maybe then it is time to think who is to blame - hmm certainly not Libya, not enough natural resources, Afghanistan ? Iraq ? all already invaded, err freed.
How about Switzerland invading Mexico ? At least there are enough chocolate plantages.

Greetings,
Catfish

[Rilder]

Did anyone else misread the title as "Gandalf Declares Holy War on Switzerland"? :rotfl2:

[Schroeder]

3. Only under the loosest interpretation of Islamic scholarship could Gaddafi be considered a serious authority to issue such a fatwa.

4. Gaddafi most certainly does not have the scholarly authority to declare any group or action as being an apostate. He is not an Islamic scholar of any standing.

This is just some politician getting up on his hind legs and yappin. :nope:

Best thing to do is ignore him. He is nothing.
I see it the same way. I don't think anyone will follow him, I just found it so...well...maybe even amusing that I started this thread.:O:

[krashkart]

Did anyone else misread the title as "Gandalf Declares Holy War on Switzerland"? :rotfl2:

My mind almost did read it that way, now that you mention it. :haha:

I see it the same way. I don't think anyone will follow him, I just found it so...well...maybe even amusing that I started this thread.:O:

Well, ol' MQ is a nutter, always has been. At any rate, it's a fun topic to discuss. Never had much love for him. :DL

[Tribesman]

And Caya says soemthing in his own words that I have repateedly been attacked for on this board,
What he says there is that Muslim fundamentalists think anyone who isn't a fundamentalist isn't a Muslim.
Skybird says Fundamentalism the only form of Islam which is what her gets atacked for.

Also, it does not take a fatwa to declare persons or groups as apostates. Who is an apostate again is defined by statements directly rooting in the Quran.

Who is an apostrate is defined by interpretations of the writings in the koran, Just because Skybird and the Taliban nuts use the same interptretaion it means nothing more than that both only use lunatic fringe viewpoints to work from.