OMG now I’ve seen it all

[KING111]

OMG now I’ve seen it all
Everyone’s talking about the periscope being on the side
If you look here and scroll down you will see the bridge view and see the binoculars are in the top left hand corner:har::har:
http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/sh5/2010%2002%2007/sh5_intro/previe2.jpg

[Galanti]

Yup, and I don't care for that either.

[The Enigma]

Do help me, I fail to see your point. :88)

[Feuer Frei!]

Critizise me if you must, but, i actually like the look of that...

[AngusJS]

Are you sure that pic wasn't edited by Neal to include both views at once?

[TDK1044]

If it is a PIP option, in addion to rather than replacing the normal Binocular view, then I like it. :)

[KING111]

It’s very simple The Enigma
If you look through a periscope is what you see in the centre or on the side
Also with binoculars is what you see in the top right hand corner
If it was I would either take them back to the shop or go and see an optician
It’s just not real the game is made for 10 year olds to buy when they are on
A shopping trip with their dads not serious simulator people like us
All in all the game is CRAP

[ryanglavin]

king, your basing your belief on something you haven't played. how do you know the game is crap? Because you have had first hand experience on the final product? I guess not.

[The Enigma]

It’s very simple The Enigma
If you look through a periscope is what you see in the centre or on the side
Also with binoculars is what you see in the top right hand corner
If it was I would either take them back to the shop or go and see an optician
It’s just not real the game is made for 10 year olds to buy when they are on
A shopping trip with their dads not serious simulator people like us
All in all the game is CRAP





Thanks for helping me.
So you are upset about the small view at the upper left corner. OK.
Well, I agree, it doesn't contribute to the realism factor.

To say the whole game is cr*p, is a bit harsh, don't you think?
We have only seen some previews here.

[Bilge_Rat]

I'm not sure if I understand the comment. I don't have an issue with how this is modeled. I do hope we get a full binocular view as well, my eyes arent what they used to be...

http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/sh5/2010%2002%2007/sh5_intro/previe2.jpg

Looking at the screenshot, the modelling of the ocean appears to have been improved as well, especially the wave breaking over the bow, the foamyness, the wave amplitude. The Atlantic looks very forbidding, I can't wait to go back out....:arrgh!:

[FIREWALL]

It’s very simple The Enigma
If you look through a periscope is what you see in the centre or on the side
Also with binoculars is what you see in the top right hand corner
If it was I would either take them back to the shop or go and see an optician
It’s just not real the game is made for 10 year olds to buy when they are on
A shopping trip with their dads not serious simulator people like us
All in all the game is CRAP





But it's Silent Hunter Crap. And there's plenty here that will hold out their bowl for seconds. :haha:

[Fincuan]

Anyone mind explaining why the "crap binoculars" shot has two mouse pointers, one in each view, if it's ingame and not a result of Neals skills in PS?

[Nisgeis]

I was just about to post that. It's in the same position too.

[TH0R]

Anyone mind explaining why the "crap binoculars" shot has two mouse pointers, one in each view, if it's ingame and not a result of Neals skills in PS?


Please take no offence, but I find this thread hilarious. :har:

It is quite obvious that Neal has pasted the binoculars view onto the bridge view for comparison. But maybe it is just me. ;)

[609_Avatar]

Anyone mind explaining why the "crap binoculars" shot has two mouse pointers, one in each view, if it's ingame and not a result of Neals skills in PS?

Nice catch! I hadn't noticed that.

[martes86]

It’s just not real the game is made for 10 year olds to buy when they are on A shopping trip with their dads not serious simulator people like us
All in all the game is CRAP

Right... your opinion is so strong!! Thanks for helping me see the light!
Seriously, is it so difficult to at least make some proper arguments so that we can benefit of a correct opinion instead of "It's crap and arcadish because I've seen some preview screens" or just "Because I say so", please? :nope:

[Nisgeis]

It is quite obvious that Neal has pasted the binoculars view onto the bridge view for comparison. But maybe it is just me. ;)

Yeah, but some don't do common sense and instead require 'evidence' to be persuaded to rational thought.

[Mud]

http://home.planet.nl/~hart0751/images/bi.jpg

nothing to worry about, carry on.

Mud

[oscar19681]

It’s very simple The Enigma
If you look through a periscope is what you see in the centre or on the side
Also with binoculars is what you see in the top right hand corner
If it was I would either take them back to the shop or go and see an optician
It’s just not real the game is made for 10 year olds to buy when they are on
A shopping trip with their dads not serious simulator people like us
All in all the game is CRAP





Ok then this game is not for you. Move along now , move along!

[mookiemookie]

You're right. I've seen it all. People criticizing a game because someone used photoshop to merge two screenshots into one.

This forum hits new lows every day. :roll:

[Safe-Keeper]

It is quite obvious that Neal has pasted the binoculars view onto the bridge view for comparison.To elaborate:


Binoculars view is even with the horizon, rest of screen is tilted slightly to one side.
Binoculars view has a fairly calm sea, rest of screen has waves.
Binoculars view has ships in view, rest of screen has nothing as far as the eye can see.
No frame around the binoculars view.
Two mouse pointers.

Ocean looks awesome, though, I know I probably won't be able to run the game on anything close to full graphics, but hopefully it'll look pretty neat to me, too.

[Michal788]

KING1111 relax. :up:
I understand your frustration.
The interface sucks, but there is hope. We must wait for the mobs.
And look at this movie.
http://www.gamestar.de/index.cfm?pid=1589&pk=13460

Dont worry you are not the only one who is dissapoint.

[Kapitanleutnant]

The interface sucks, but there is hope. We must wait for the mobs.

This man has the right idea. I'll get my pitchfork - tonight we march on Ubisoft Romania and get them to fix this UI!

[FIREWALL]

Hadn't you all better wait for Neal to say whether he Photoshoped it or not ?

Or do you all do his talking for him ?

I think not. :nope:

[Méo]

Two mouse pointers.

You're right. I've seen it all. People criticizing a game because someone used photoshop to merge two screenshots into one.

This forum hits new lows every day. :roll:

+1 :har:

[FIREWALL]

Hadn't you all better wait for Neal to say whether he Photoshoped it or not ?

Or do you all do his talking for him ?

I think not. :nope:

bumpity bump


I'll wait for Neal :yep:

[Méo]

Hadn't you all better wait for Neal to say whether he Photoshoped it or not ?

Look carefully, there are TWO MOUSE POINTERS, isn't it obvious?

[Feuer Frei!]

Look carefully, there are TWO MOUSE POINTERS, isn't it obvious?
Obvious that it was Neal? :hmmm:
He must be the only gent who photo-shops with two mouse pointers :haha:

[FIREWALL]

I'll wait for Neal :yep:[ OK

[ParaB]

The amount of nagging going on in this forum lately is slowly starting to change from absurd to hilarious.

I am p*ssed off at UBI for their DRM (and therefore won't buy SH V for the time coming) just like many others, but that doesn't mean I have to run amok on the forums to vent my anger everytime I see a screenshot.

I suggest taking a take a deep breath...

[Mud]

http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/sh5/2010%2002%2007/sh5_intro/sh5%202010-02-18%2014-24-30-40.jpg

Another great pic from Neal's preview.
Better ask Neal not to photoshop 'cos people get upset here

sorry 'bout the size

Mud

[Fincuan]

Binoculars view has a fairly calm sea, rest of screen has waves.

.

This is actually a "feature" of SH3 and 4, and sadly it looks like the same thing remains in 5 too. Waves are only drawn in a small area around the boat so that it looks ok in the unzoomed view, but the majority of the sea is indeed flat. This only really becomes apparent in view with magnification, such as a binocular view.

[Feuer Frei!]

And that looks like a 9 inch nail bottom right that's been driven into DRM's coffin.... :DL Sadly, perhaps only the first nail has been driven :-?

[GermanGS]

OMG the game is complete faliere because of the benacular. Thats it what are we all going to do:wah:???

Just kidding here, seems that crapping on everything has became a routine. I hate this negativity, if i owned UBI, afrer reading this forum i would just see the game as a complete faliere and think that it is impossible to produce a subsim game that people are going to like.:nope:

[Bilge_Rat]

OMG the game is complete faliere because of the benacular. Thats it what are we all going to do:wah:???

Just kidding here, seems that crapping on everything has became a routine. I hate this negativity, if i owned UBI, afrer reading this forum i would just see the game as a complete faliere and think that it is impossible to produce a subsim game that people are going to like.:nope:


Agreed. I am sure there are many Ubi executives who would be just as happy to scrap the SH series once and for all and concentrate on much more profitable games, like Assassin's Creed or Call of Duty.

Most companies bailed out of the simulation market a long time ago. Simulations are hard and expensive to design properly, the sales/profits are small and let's face it, wargamers complain at least 10x as much as any other group of customers.

I personally commend Ubisoft for continuing to support the simulation market with quality sims such as Silent Hunter, IL-2 and the upcoming Storm of War: Battle of Britain.

The problem with overly negative threads is that they drive away potential subsimmers. I almost did not buy SH4 because of all the negative comments here when it came out. I certainly will not make that mistake again.

Silent Hunter 5 will have flaws, that is guaranteed, but name me one simulation which is 100% realistic.

[razark]

Look carefully, there are TWO MOUSE POINTERS, isn't it obvious?

So, you're saying I'm going to need TWO mice to play this game?!?:o


Why is it that every time someone posts a screen shot of this unfinished version of the game, so many people start freaking out? I thought at first that it was because there was so little information coming out, that every little tidbit we got was gone over and analyzed and re-analyzed and over-analyzed.

But there's been more information coming out lately, and that idea doesn't hold. New theory: Is it just a general bad feeling people have about it, that they jump on any little thing they can find, and don't bother to pay attention to the whole picture?

[Méo]

So, you're saying I'm going to need TWO mice to play this game?!?:o

Looks like you got me wrong on that..:hmmm:

My point was: since it has two mouse pointers, it's kinda obvious that someone used photoshop.

[piri_reis]

Looks like you got me wrong on that..:hmmm:

My point was: since it has two mouse pointers, it's kinda obvious that someone used photoshop.

:har: All shall be revealed in march!
Better keep a mouse ready, just in case.

[Q3ark]

KING111
OMG now i've seen it all.


Really?

Have you ever seen a man eat his own head?

No!! So you haven't seen it all. And neither have we :rotfl2::rotfl2::salute:


p.s.
+10pts to the person that gets the title of the film i got that from

[609_Avatar]

...I personally commend Ubisoft for continuing to support the simulation market with quality sims such as Silent Hunter, IL-2 and the upcoming Storm of War: Battle of Britain.

I hear you and agree about appreciating that they have helped continue series that I like but thankfully you're wrong about Storm of War. Maddox and company have seen the light and left Ubisoft after the IL-2 series and are publishing it themselves in most markets the last I heard. I'm really looking forward to that one and would have to pass, on principle once again, if they were an Ubisoft product due to you know what... (don't want to offend those that are tired of hearing about it! :) )

[kiwi_2005]

I wonder if the Collectors edition comes with a xbox :O: Cause the game is convincing me each time i see a new picture its a console whore. The binoculars in the left top corner is so stupid just another that completely kills the realism for me - unless im hoping Neal just added it there for his preview.

[KING111]

Let hope it is photoshop????????????????????
i will just wait and see what you all say
in the weeks after you have given out your $49
for it :har:
i will give it 6 months after the mods have had a go
at it and the DRM is gone i might just buy it

[KING111]

I hear you and agree about appreciating that they have helped continue series that I like but thankfully you're wrong about Storm of War. Maddox and company have seen the light and left Ubisoft after the IL-2 series and are publishing it themselves in most markets the last I heard. I'm really looking forward to that one and would have to pass, on principle once again, if they were an Ubisoft product due to you know what... (don't want to offend those that are tired of hearing about it! :) )

thats one for me 609_Avatar
if it an't made by ubi and it an't got you know what i will be first in line
at my local computer shop to get it:yeah::yeah:

[frau kaleun]

Have you ever seen a man eat his own head?


I'm gonna go with Team America for 10, Alex.

[Randomizer]

I'm gonna go with Team America for 10, Alex.
EEEHHHH! You forgot to phrase it as a question.

I'll take SH5 Hyperbole for $500 please Alex.

[razark]

Looks like you got me wrong on that..:hmmm:

My point was: since it has two mouse pointers, it's kinda obvious that someone used photoshop.

No, not getting you wrong. Just my own take on the overreaction to everything. Seriously, we've seen several screen shots of the binocular view. And one screen shot posted by Neal, with two mouse pointers. And yet, people start going crazy over it.

[GoldenRivet]

I'm gonna go with Team America for 10, Alex.

way too easy :shifty:

:D

[jazman]

:har: All shall be revealed in march!
Better keep a mouse ready, just in case.

Calling Curious George!

I hear you and agree about appreciating that they have helped continue series that I like but thankfully you're wrong about Storm of War. Maddox and company have seen the light and left Ubisoft after the IL-2 series and are publishing it themselves in most markets the last I heard. I'm really looking forward to that one and would have to pass, on principle once again, if they were an Ubisoft product due to you know what... (don't want to offend those that are tired of hearing about it! :) )

For all its faults maybe Ubisoft would have this product out the door before I'm dead. SoW is Russian for "Duke Nukem Forever".

[ERPP8]

Are you sure that pic wasn't edited by Neal to include both views at once?
Yeah, the map has a minimize button, expand button and a border.



Edit there is a cursor in the binocular image and in the bridge image.

[Onkel Neal]

It’s very simple The Enigma
If you look through a periscope is what you see in the centre or on the side
Also with binoculars is what you see in the top right hand corner
If it was I would either take them back to the shop or go and see an optician
It’s just not real the game is made for 10 year olds to buy when they are on
A shopping trip with their dads not serious simulator people like us
All in all the game is CRAP





So, if you are wrong, what does that mean about your judgment? :haha:

king, your basing your belief on something you haven't played. how do you know the game is crap? Because you have had first hand experience on the final product? I guess not.

Smart man, good point.

Thanks for helping me.
So you are upset about the small view at the upper left corner. OK.
Well, I agree, it doesn't contribute to the realism factor.

To say the whole game is cr*p, is a bit harsh, don't you think?
We have only seen some previews here.

Well said.

Anyone mind explaining why the "crap binoculars" shot has two mouse pointers, one in each view, if it's ingame and not a result of Neals skills in PS?
Are you sure that pic wasn't edited by Neal to include both views at once?


You are correct, thanks, Angus, Fincuan. :up:

I was illustrating the ability to distinguish contacts that are very far away, and to do it before the AI crew, like I described in the words that preceed the images. How could someone misconstrue that? :o

'Specially when there is a binocs screenshot in the screens at the end of the preview
http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/sh5/2010%2002%2007/sh5_intro/sh5%202010-02-18%2014-24-30-40_small.jpg


No, not getting you wrong. Just my own take on the overreaction to everything. Seriously, we've seen several screen shots of the binocular view. And one screen shot posted by Neal, with two mouse pointers. And yet, people start going crazy over it.

Exactly. Ho-lee cow, people, if Ubi reads this thread, they may feel they need to dumb down the game for us.:O:

[Elder-Pirate]

Exactly. Ho-lee cow, people, if Ubi reads this thread, they may feel they need to dumb down the game for us.:O:


OMG...........Whew.......For a second there I thought we were gonna have to use two blind mice just to use the binocs............Whew. :rotfl2::rotfl2:

[Will-Rommel]

:-?

[Q3ark]

way too easy :shifty:

:D


Guess so, still a funny quote tho :arrgh!:

[Iron Budokan]

king, your basing your belief on something you haven't played. how do you know the game is crap? Because you have had first hand experience on the final product? I guess not.

You haven't played it, either, so you don't know if the game is worth playing or crap, either. Therefore, according to your logic, your own opinion supporting the game without any basis in playable reality, or evidentiary value, is just as vacuous.

Yeah. It works both ways.

[Sailor Steve]

How could someone misconstrue that? :o
Reminds me of Archie Bunker's wonderful malaproped version: Misconscrew.
:rotfl2:

You haven't played it, either, so you don't know if the game is worth playing or crap, either. Therefore, according to your logic, your own opinion supporting the game without any basis in playable reality, or evidentiary value, is just as vacuous.

Yeah. It works both ways.
Did I miss something? I don't see where ryanglavin claims it isn't crap, or that it's good. I only see him taking king111 to task for claiming it is crap.

[KING111]

You may all want to stick your heads in the sand
And pay out your $49
For a half done game with DRM
Everyone waited 2 years for PT boats and it was nothing more
Then $20 arcade game SH5 has been made for the casual gamer
The 12 year old that likes the picture on the box
Ubisoft have said so themselves and they have left it open for the mods
To change it?
It’s like buying a car you have got to fix before you can drive it
The game will be one big flop in other words crap
I have been over to the UB forum all there is there
Are 100s of people saying no sale they will not buy it I thought
There were a lot here that were not going to buy it but over at
The UB forums it looks like no one’s going to be getting it
I will say no more
I will just wait for the crying and the moaning to start
From those that do buy it in the weeks after they take it home :har:

[oscar19681]

You may all want to stick your heads in the sand
And pay out your $49
For a half done game with DRM
Everyone waited 2 years for PT boats and it was nothing more
Then $20 arcade game SH5 has been made for the casual gamer
The 12 year old that likes the picture on the box
Ubisoft have said so themselves and they have left it open for the mods
To change it?
It’s like buying a car you have got to fix before you can drive it
The game will be one big flop in other words crap
I have been over to the UB forum all there is there
Are 100s of people saying no sale they will not buy it I thought
There were a lot here that were not going to buy it but over at
The UB forums it looks like no one’s going to be getting it
I will say no more
I will just wait for the crying and the moaning to start
From those that do buy it in the weeks after they take it home :har:


Well it that case King111 you have many options. Ill sum them all up for ya.


* Not buy sh-5 becuase its a crap game
* Not buy sh-5 because its had DRM
* Not buy sh-5 because its a crap game and it has DRM
* start yet ANOTHER DRM thread
* start yet ANOTHER thread abou how crap sh-5 is
* End the whole thread because it your were proven wrong in the first place anyway and say no more.
* wait for the crying and the moaning to start
* Not pay out your $49
* buy a car then fix it before you can drive it
* stick your head in the sand :har: :har:

[mookiemookie]

You may all want to stick your heads in the sand
And pay out your $49
For a half done game with DRM
Everyone waited 2 years for PT boats and it was nothing more
Then $20 arcade game SH5 has been made for the casual gamer
The 12 year old that likes the picture on the box
Ubisoft have said so themselves and they have left it open for the mods
To change it?
It’s like buying a car you have got to fix before you can drive it
The game will be one big flop in other words crap
I have been over to the UB forum all there is there
Are 100s of people saying no sale they will not buy it I thought
There were a lot here that were not going to buy it but over at
The UB forums it looks like no one’s going to be getting it
I will say no more
I will just wait for the crying and the moaning to start
From those that do buy it in the weeks after they take it home :har:


You were wrong. You made yourself look silly. None of this "Well, yeah, b-b-b-but!" stuff. Get over it. If you hate it so much, why do you waste your time and effort posting on a message board for a game you'll never buy and never play? Not saying you can't, but I just don't understand why you would.

[Steeltrap]

At least someone pass around the binocs so we can read the font....

:O:

[Bilge_Rat]

King111, how old are you? I am guessing 17?

[Feuer Frei!]

I will just wait for the crying and the moaning to start
From those that do buy it in the weeks after they take it home


WAIT for the crying and moaning to start?
Hell, it's been going for weeks, even months (by some)....maybe you have your head in the sand already?

From those that buy it? Mmmm, doubt it, why would i buy something then complain about it, i tend to do my research about a product as best as i can before buying something, makes sense, i'm sure there are many here that do the same thing, indeed, some have already researched enough and continuously cram the "i'm not buying it" regurgitated protein spill down other people's throats......:nope:
you seem to be one of them.....
if 4PARA doesn't mind me using one of his "sign-offs"...
"good day to you sir!

[Gilbou]

When SH5 comes out, instead of buying it I will make a donation of exactly the same value to the forum thru a donation.

That money will be spent, but it won't get into Ubisoft's hands.

[TDK1044]

When SH5 comes out, instead of buying it I will make a donation of exactly the same value to the forum thru a donation.

That money will be spent, but it won't get into Ubisoft's hands.

Neal will appreciate the gesture, but will likely ask you to buy the game through the subsim link so that both subsim and the Silent Hunter franchise are helped.

[Schunken]

Gosh, what place became this...:hmmm:

Ah good idea to bring this Forum back too the intelligent Niveau like it was 4 years ago:

Delete all User accounts.

Only poeple over 30 years who prove it with a passport copy let in again...

I feel not sorry for teens left out....:salute:


Andreas

[Bilge_Rat]

I have no problem with teens. Most U-Boat crewmen were around 18 and most U-Boat commanders were in their 20's. If they were old enough to live, fight and die in the Cruel Sea, there is no reason why players of all ages can't appreciate these sims and get a small taste of what it must have been like.

However, in these forums, you will have more impact with a well reasoned, well thought out, well supported and well written argument. A touch of dry wit helps as well.

I personally love these forum wars which is why I only come out of lurker mode when there is a new release...:rock:

[Sailor Steve]

Ah good idea to bring this Forum back too the intelligent Niveau like it was 4 years ago:
You mean like when the modder wars were going on over SH3?

Or five years ago, when the same thing was happening before SH3's release?

Or 8 years ago, just before the release of SH2?

You're wishing for a past that never existed. It's always been like this.

Delete all User accounts.
Including yours? Mine?

Only poeple over 30 years who prove it with a passport copy let in again...

I feel not sorry for teens left out....:salute:
Some of our most intelligent members have been teens. Adam Warren, Kapitan Phillips, and a great many more have been wonderful contributors. And some of the over 30, over 50, over 70 folks have had their bad days.

There's nothing wrong with what's going on here right now. We have a natural right to be stupid. To paraphrase a great man, All of us are stupid some of the time, and some of us are stupid all of the time. It's when two of us are being stupid at the same time that the popcorn comes out.

[Elder-Pirate]

^^

:haha::rotfl2::arrgh!: Ho boy, I do have to go along with "Sailor Steve" for he does know what he's talking about. :up:

[Schunken]

maybe I have the wrong teens in neighborhood.... :stare:

...or I be jelous of the youth I have lost....a long time ago....as dinosours rulez the earth :haha:


Andreas

[Brag]

You mean like when the modder wars were going on over SH3?

Or five years ago, when the same thing was happening before SH3's release?

Or 8 years ago, just before the release of SH2?

You're wishing for a past that never existed. It's always been like this.


Including yours? Mine?


Some of our most intelligent members have been teens. Adam Warren, Kapitan Phillips, and a great many more have been wonderful contributors. And some of the over 30, over 50, over 70 folks have had their bad days.

There's nothing wrong with what's going on here right now. We have a natural right to be stupid. To paraphrase a great man, All of us are stupid some of the time, and some of us are stupid all of the time. It's when two of us are being stupid at the same time that the popcorn comes out.
:haha::haha::haha: Excellent, Steve!

[jazman]

You mean like when the modder wars were going on over SH3?

Or five years ago, when the same thing was happening before SH3's release?

Or 8 years ago, just before the release of SH2?

You're wishing for a past that never existed. It's always been like this.


Including yours? Mine?


Some of our most intelligent members have been teens. Adam Warren, Kapitan Phillips, and a great many more have been wonderful contributors. And some of the over 30, over 50, over 70 folks have had their bad days.

There's nothing wrong with what's going on here right now. We have a natural right to be stupid. To paraphrase a great man, All of us are stupid some of the time, and some of us are stupid all of the time. It's when two of us are being stupid at the same time that the popcorn comes out.

What?! I don't get a Pretty Pink Pony and a Rainbow to boot? C'mon Steve, join in a round:

"Kumbayah...."

[mobucks]

this thread was funny as hell to read, thankyou all