Hope that SH5 100% difficult is more difficult

[W_clear]

I think that 100% difficulties must be
1.Save the game only once


2.You can not use three-step measurement method

3.DD found in your ability,
4.DD Long-range shelling of your accuracy,
5.Ship shelling periscope capacity,
6.Ship evade your torpedoes fired capacity,
7.DD of quasi-degree launch depth charges,
8.DD Underwater find that your ability to ......。

Have to be increased

[Philipp_Thomsen]

Can you translate the items 3 to 8?

[IanC]

Can you translate the items 3 to 8?

2 to 8

[Philipp_Thomsen]

2 to 8

I was trying to be nice. :DL

[THE_MASK]

good points . will you be doing an environment mod for sh5 please .

[SteamWake]

DID

:haha:

[W_clear]

3.DD found in your ability,
4.DD Long-range shelling of your accuracy,
5.Ship shelling periscope capacity,
6.Ship evade your torpedoes fired capacity,
7.DD of quasi-degree launch depth charges,
8.DD Underwater find that your ability to ......。

Have to be increased

[W_clear]

good points . will you be doing an environment mod for sh5 please .


Of course, I will do it。

[FIREWALL]

I'm not going to even touch this. :p2:

@ W_clear Let these hooligans explain it to you. :yep: :DL

[Noren]

My take on this:

3.DD found in your ability,
Destroyers having an easier time finding the sub?
4.DD Long-range shelling of your accuracy,
Destroyers accuracy significantly improved. It should be lethal to be in their presence!
5.Ship shelling periscope capacity,
Ships should be able to shell the periscope, if spotted?
6.Ship evade your torpedoes fired capacity,
As it says, ships should be trying to evade torpedoes.
7.DD of quasi-degree launch depth charges,
Destroyers should have numerous mounts for depth charges?
8.DD Underwater find that your ability to ......。
Destroyers should have an easier time detecting the sub while submerged?

[KL-alfman]

great, Noren!
you are a specialist in decrypting? :up:

[jwilliams]

My take on this:

3.DD found in your ability,
Destroyers having an easier time finding the sub?
4.DD Long-range shelling of your accuracy,
Destroyers accuracy significantly improved. It should be lethal to be in their presence!
5.Ship shelling periscope capacity,
Ships should be able to shell the periscope, if spotted?
6.Ship evade your torpedoes fired capacity,
As it says, ships should be trying to evade torpedoes.
7.DD of quasi-degree launch depth charges,
Destroyers should have numerous mounts for depth charges?
8.DD Underwater find that your ability to ......。
Destroyers should have an easier time detecting the sub while submerged?

Thanks... now i understand.

And @ W clear... i totaly agree, 100% difficulty should be as realistic as it can possible be.

{edit} except the 1 save bit!!!! i'd have to be playing for days, even years (as SH5 goes from 1939 to 1943) with out sleep if i could only save once during a campain. I wouldn't trust my crew enough to come and wake me if a ship was spotted!

[Nisgeis]

1.Save the game only once


Evil! I hope you mean once per patrol, not per career - or game :-).


4.DD Long-range shelling of your accuracy,

I agree, the ships have 'random accuracy' in SH4, would be better if they actually did try to straddle to find your range. Range was pretty accurate, so to have shells falling all over the place doesn't seem 'real'.

5.Ship shelling periscope capacity,

They already do, don't they? Or do they... they fire small arms at your scope, but now you mention it, they don't fire main guns. Perhaps their downwards elevation won't allow it?

[Noren]

saving only once per patrol, I hope he meant that. Real captains were'nt that lucky.

Of course destroyers and corvettes should use their main guns on us! We are their main adversaries now. Although, it might be overkill if Rodney started shelling mountains of iron our way. Do you guys now of successful engagements between surface ships and subs at perscope depth - in regards of naval artillery? 10's of meters of water should dampen the impact to a great degree but the scarefactor scores high (quote discovery channel).

It would be so much fun driving 'torpedoes blazing'-style like kretschmer in the early days but if spotted, I would like to see my crew running like cockroaches to submerge me. Any direct hits by anything bigger than a glowing sodacan, and its a looong descent in the cold atlantic. But as a SH:V captain I'm told we can keep pushing out the water :D

No Im no decrypting specialist, just a swede who just woke up. Cheers!

[pontius]

1.Save the game only once


So I have to run my pc half a week to play SH5 with low time-compression? If you think saving a game is unrealistic, you don't have to ....

[HundertzehnGustav]

Huh?
the DDs already accelerate WAY too much... how can a request like that be made, if the acceleration is already off?

1000 tons of steel can only be moved so much... avoiding a well shot eel at 400m leading you... should put an end to your DD career.

I propose a different pattern after depthcharging... just let the DDs zig zag after dropping the ashcans, and make some random movements...

GWX:

DD =
drop depth charges,
make turn.

VII/b =
avoid depth charges at periscope depth,
wait DD turn, set Torpedo depth and speed Maximum
shoot Torpedo at Bow Wave of DD.
wait for impact below front ammo storage
drink beer, watch fireworks
repeat as necessary:D

If we could have half a dozen ways how the DDs make an attack run, one could not predict their post-attack reactions so easily, and thus nail them every single time...

(up to early 1941 that is)

[W_clear]

My take on this:

3.DD found in your ability,
Destroyers having an easier time finding the sub?
4.DD Long-range shelling of your accuracy,
Destroyers accuracy significantly improved. It should be lethal to be in their presence!
5.Ship shelling periscope capacity,
Ships should be able to shell the periscope, if spotted?
6.Ship evade your torpedoes fired capacity,
As it says, ships should be trying to evade torpedoes.
7.DD of quasi-degree launch depth charges,
Destroyers should have numerous mounts for depth charges?
8.DD Underwater find that your ability to ......。
Destroyers should have an easier time detecting the sub while submerged?:yeah::yeah::yeah::yeah::yeah:
WOW----------！you are so smart~~you almost get all of them right, thank you very much! But one thing:
7.Destroyers should launch depth charges very accurately.(my daughter help me in this translation)
I hope you would always help me:salute:translate my posts. I have huge amounts of suggestions about Silent Hunter, but I can't present them to you because of my poor english.:wah:

[Noren]

Thanks W Clear! Im only trying to help, us skippers must join together against the might DRM and the allied forces :D

Im all for time-compression! otherwise we would'nt have a life.

DD's should not be predictable, when it comes to maneouvers. I have'nt played convoys-attacks so much as some of you but I've read about the real war tactics: like one DD making noise and confusion, while another sits quiet and listens....like carpetbombing. Like relentless stalking (which could make some of our already depressed crewmembers panic etc).

[Frederf]

I hope SH5 has a setting where it's difficult to the point that I do about the same as the average real life submarine skipper. If I get 120,000 tons per patrol then the game is wrong.

[THE_MASK]

W_CLEAR your english is getting much better since being here . cheers sober out .

[Noren]

W Clear, is this your video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b2Bti5sSBE&feature=related
It is signed by you in the end, excellent work I have to say!

[Sulikate]

W_CLEAR your english is getting much better since being here . cheers sober out .
I noticed that too! Keep it up, W_CLEAR, your suggestions are very welcome :arrgh!:

[Safe-Keeper]

I'd be in support of an Uplink/Dwarf Fortress-style save system where you can't save, other than when you leave the game. I believe this was how it was in SH4, too, only slightly more broken:O:.

Of course this'd be for higher realism settings only.

[Philipp_Thomsen]

:yeah::yeah::yeah::yeah::yeah:
WOW----------！you are so smart~~you almost get all of them right, thank you very much! But one thing:
7.Destroyers should launch depth charges very accurately.(my daughter help me in this translation)
I hope you would always help me:salute:translate my posts. I have huge amounts of suggestions about Silent Hunter, but I can't present them to you because of my poor english.:wah:

Its better if you write here in German, so we can put all you say into google translator and understand what you mean.

Plus we have a lot of german speakers around who can help.

[martes86]

Point 1 is impossible from a gameplay POV, adds nothing to realism, and would kill the game for everyone having to restart whole missions.

Everything else seems acceptable (I think).

Cheers :rock:

[XXi]

I wish I could see two important things in SH5 as for tough realism:
1. Various sort of torpedo malfunctions. Premature detonations, torpedoes running too deep, torpedoes bumping off the ships or not exploding at all.
2. Early in the war and to some extent later, various levels of the enemy`s and crew`s alertness. I mean, there were cases when the destroyers were virtually blind to the surfaced U Boats and otherwise - sometimes the deck watch failed to spot the destroyer running against the Boat in time.

[IanC]

Point 1 is impossible from a gameplay POV, adds nothing to realism, and would kill the game for everyone having to restart whole missions.

Everything else seems acceptable (I think).

Cheers :rock:

Oh I'd have to disagree with that! Dead is Dead adds alot to realism, in the sense that you might actually start to sweat for real when you hear those asdic pings and you know that you might lose your entire career if you die. Kinda gives you a reason to stay alive no?

[jwilliams]

I think its should be players choice with saves. you dont have to load the last save if u die. but i think you will need to save often as if your connection with ubi servers goes down, then its game over.

[jerm138]

Oh I'd have to disagree with that! Dead is Dead adds alot to realism, in the sense that you might actually start to sweat for real when you hear those asdic pings and you know that you might lose your entire career if you die. Kinda gives you a reason to stay alive no?

Take it a step further... if you die, it will fry your whole computer and de-activate your copy of the game! :haha:

I agree that the ability to restore to a previous point is too tempting to abuse... I know I've done it many times. I would like to have the OPTION to make it so that it only saves when I exit the game, and when I die I can't re-load at all. I think it would be fun to play this way, but unreasonable to force this style of gameplay on everyone.

[Steeltrap]

My take on this:
4.DD Long-range shelling of your accuracy,
Destroyers accuracy significantly improved. It should be lethal to be in their presence!

To a degree. Remember, though, they weren't brilliant gun platforms, at least not the Corvettes. More relevant is the fact that a significant hit (i.e. the pressure hull and not just in the superstructure) is essentially game over: you can't submerge (well, you can, but you won't come up again....).

The accuracy and frequency of merchant gunnery should be altered considerably. Merchants in convoys just didn't blaze away, nor with great accuracy. They didn't steam with their guns manned all the time, and firing would cause issues for the escort and tend to expose the firing ship far more than was worth it. Gunnery effectiveness of merchants is one of my pet hates through the SH series. It's just so unrealistic. Even a warship would take a bit of time to fire on a sub from the moment it was detected.

5.Ship shelling periscope capacity,
Ships should be able to shell the periscope, if spotted?

The sighting of periscopes is also overdone. Sure as hell no way you'll spot one in the Atlantic at night, nor in anything other than very calm conditions. Also note my comments on merchant vessels' gunnery, above.


6.Ship evade your torpedoes fired capacity,
As it says, ships should be trying to evade torpedoes.

Fine, IF you're using steam torps. Electric leave no wake. Convoys also didn't start zig-zagging madly, nor did they alter course in 2 seconds. I remember reading accounts from merchant seamen who said one of the most nerve-wracking experiences was having ships go 'bang' around you and having to maintain convoy course and speed.

[IanC]

Take it a step further... if you die, it will fry your whole computer and de-activate your copy of the game! :haha:

I agree that the ability to restore to a previous point is too tempting to abuse... I know I've done it many times. I would like to have the OPTION to make it so that it only saves when I exit the game, and when I die I can't re-load at all. I think it would be fun to play this way, but unreasonable to force this style of gameplay on everyone.

You laugh but I clearly remember a guy here, around 2006, saying that when he dies he puts his game away in the closet for 6 months. We would assume he was kidding but he said it in a serious way, so who knows... :lol:
As for me, personally, I have no problem scraping a career if I die, in fact it would be harder for me to continue it.