Dick O'Kane's Infomercials/Plastic Triangle

[RodBorza]

In sub skippers land, I believe there would be a infomercial that would go something like this:
"In the past, I had really great trouble hiting targets. Lots of bundersome measurements, speed readings, PK on, PK off...
Now with dick O'Kane's method of firing, my life has changed! Every attack is a sure hit! Thanks Dick O'Kane!" :rotfl2:

Ok, ok...this is my way to say this method is simply great. Simple, straightforward, no PK to worry about. Amazing.:rock:

My only doubt is how to move the "plastic triangle" as shown on Rocky Robbins video. In order to get the method right, I have to input distance from sub to target line of course. And I really didn't understand on the video what moving the "plastic triangle" really does.

Yet, thanks Rocky Robbins!!! :arrgh!:

[Fishbreath]

Pah! All you need is the stadimeter, the TDC/PK, and a firing position 800 yards off your target's track. :P

[razark]

My only doubt is how to move the "plastic triangle" as shown on Rocky Robbins video. In order to get the method right, I have to input distance from sub to target line of course. And I really didn't understand on the video what moving the "plastic triangle" really does.


Moving the triangle sets the range. You set the range as far out as you can, and then disregard it. Not really a necessary thing to do, though. With those targeting methods, you don't need the range.

Get in position, and set everything up right, and it doesn't matter if the target is 400 yards away, or 10,000 yards. You'll hit.

(Except, the farther away the target is, the more your little mistakes factor in, so you probably won't hit the target at 10,000 yards)

Pah! All you need is the stadimeter, the TDC/PK, and a firing position 800 yards off your target's track. :P

And if your PK breaks down, you need another targeting method. The point is to do it without the PK.

[Rockin Robbins]

Pah! All you need is the stadimeter, the TDC/PK, and a firing position 800 yards off your target's track. :P

Pah! Make that firing position 450 yards off your target's track and don't pussyfoot around.:arrgh!: Heh, heh, heh...

[Platapus]

I have to testify!!!!

I am a "fast 90" convert*! Nay, a fanatic is more like it. I use the Fast 90 technique almost exclusively. I have done the 45 degree Cromwell. I won't feel totally comfortable until I can do a Cromwell from the aft tubes (it will will happen).

I actually feel bad that I am relying on these techniques too much. There are times when you just don't have enough time to set up a Fast 90 (or like I do and totally F-up a perfect Fast 90 by using TC indiscriminately :damn::damn::damn:)

I do need to practice using the PK as a secondary method of attacking. A good Kaluen... uh... I mean a good Captain should be comfortable with all the attack techniques.

But Fast 90 just works too well. :sunny:



* with a heartfelt salute to Rockin Robbins for his patience in teaching this old dog an old trick. :salute:

[magic452]

The reason you pull the range triangle down is when you send bearing/range you need a range reading for the operation to work, no range it does strange things. The range isn't important but the operation is.

I don't use either O'kane nor Cromwell but vector analysis, bow or stern tubes and AoB make no difference at all. With a little plotting you can use this on maneuvering targets as well at long range.

Magic

[RodBorza]

The reason you pull the range triangle down is when you send bearing/range you need a range reading for the operation to work, no range it does strange things. The range isn't important but the operation is.

I don't use either O'kane nor Cromwell but vector analysis, bow or stern tubes and AoB make no difference at all. With a little plotting you can use this on maneuvering targets as well at long range.

Magic

So, I don't need the range...just put a very long range there and that's it? Hmmm....donuts.

Ok, that makes sense, since you are firing at an angle, and as the distance go greater, the angles spreads, so one thing compensate the other.

And what about this method of yours? Can I have a link to it?

[RodBorza]

I have to testify!!!!

I actually feel bad that I am relying on these techniques too much. There are times when you just don't have enough time to set up a Fast 90 (or like I do and totally F-up a perfect Fast 90 by using TC indiscriminately :damn::damn::damn:)

Hahaha...you have to take care with time compression. It can be your best friend or worse enemy. Some days ago I tried to intercept a Destroyer-Auxiliary Subchaser team, but I made a serious mistake and they saw me before I got to periscope depth. Ok, time to evade. I evaded and it was ok. I was tired, sleepy and wanted to end that all. So I hit Time Compression and the last thing I saw was my boat sinking to the bottom.. Nice...

Well, at least I got to know which my crunch depth is...:arrgh!:

[VonGlaus]

I actually feel bad that I am relying on these techniques too much. There are times when you just don't have enough time to set up a Fast 90 (or like I do and totally F-up a perfect Fast 90 by using TC indiscriminately :damn::damn::damn:)


Yup, been there and done that too. Pop up the scope on bearing just to see his aft end sliding out of the picture.:damn:

[Pisces]

Actually, moving the little white transparent triangle adjusts the set mastheight, since that is what it points to. Somehow there is a stadimeter size angle setting set into the range dial which doesn't seem to change. But because the mastheight dial changes due to manual action, so also the range. Anyway, that's my take. (note: I have the AOB Rel TB fix- something-mod applied )

[magic452]

Go to this link and scroll down to Rockin Robins links.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=146795

Look for the Cromwell attack method and the two links below that.
Should give you a good picture of constant bearing methods.

Magic

[Platapus]

Yup, been there and done that too. Pop up the scope on bearing just to see his aft end sliding out of the picture.:damn:

Thanks fellas, glad I am not alone. :salute:

[RodBorza]

Go to this link and scroll down to Rockin Robins links.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=146795

Look for the Cromwell attack method and the two links below that.
Should give you a good picture of constant bearing methods.

Magic


Oh thanks! Requires some mathmatics, but is a way to have a sucessful attack at any angle. Will try it later.
Amazing what you can do without having to worry about PK on or off.

[magic452]

You still want to keep up on your PK/TDC skills, constant bearing shots can be difficult on maneuvering targets.

I often use a low speed constant bearing attack on one target and follow up with a TDC/PK high speed shot on a second target.

Magic

[Rockin Robbins]

Hence the name of the Sub Skippers' Bag of Tricks (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=146795) thread. The skipper with the most tricks in the bag bags the most tonnage! :D