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IRISH4Life
02-15-10, 11:03 PM
I know that it ends up being all my choice in the end.

But Now that I have Window 7 Allowing me to use all the mods that All of you so graciously provided and I might add are awesome.

What are the pros and cons.

I have loaded Fleetboat for 1.4 and tried it and its great
I have loaded Trigger Maru for 1.4 and tried it and its great

I have loaded Operation Monsoon 705 and 705-720 and I dont know what is different
I have added Pacific Enviornment 4 I have added and it makes the water look awesome.

So What should I be looking for what would be the best options, I want to hear some setups that work for other people. There are so many mods I think that I have redundant or disabling mods. It all works great I just want to hear some other complete mod setups and load them save them and then try them one at a time .

Thanks, I think there are alot of us newer hunters that want to know what the vets are running. and why?

Thanks Again,

IRISH4life

I would put photos in my posts but I don't know how.

Armistead
02-16-10, 01:17 AM
The Enviroment mods have been a work of progress. There were others, but PE4, Enviroment 5 and New Real Enviroment are the latest. PE4 is oldest, New Real being the newest.

Most Supermods like TMO already include one of these enviroment mods. TMO uses Env. 5 that is tweaked. Those that make the supermods frown on running other enviroment mods on top of their mods. Enviroment mods can effect many settings and to use one may disrupt aspects of the supermod itself, so it's usually best to not run enviroment mods over supermods.

There are many smaller mods that will work fine with supermods. The makers of supermods simply aren't going to try each one out, so it's use at your own risk. As always you want to use mods stated to work with the supermod, but that's still a risk, so backup and pay attention to each mod. If a mod doesn't state what other mods it works with, don't load it. Most have readmes stating what it works with, but some don't.

Your biggest problem is using 1.4. You're limited to old mods that aren't supported by the mod makers. If you want to take advantage of the new mods today, you need ver. 1.5..it's so cheap it's worth it.

Each has to decide on what mod suits them. I've played TMO with RSRD for over a year. I've tried numerous smaller mods, some work, some I've had mod soup. Always keep backups of a clean Data folder backed up.

I like the setup I have now. I do multiinstalls of the game and have seperate folders for each mod setup, but here is what I run for TMO.

TriggerMaru_Overhaul_19
TMO19_Patch_25012010
RSRDC TMO 502
RSRDC V5xx Patch1
TMO19_interior3d_GATO_overhaul

As far as I know the mods above are approved by the maker of TMO. The rest he will say use at your own risk.

Here are other smaller mods I run.

Map Colour Original with terrain
Map Labels 1.3
PE4 Lifeboat and Debris
sh4lighthousemod
TGT AOB TO PK FIX - TMO
TGT DIALS TO PK FIX - TMO
merchant skinpack release
Shell splash mod
TMO_Stock_Gramaphone
3000 Yard-Meter Bearing Tools (1280x960)
SS220 USS Barb_FooBor's hi-res Gato - Weathered
Ship pack 1
EAX_sound_sim_without_Websters_Maneuver_SonarFix
SCAF for TMO 1.9 BETA


I have run Real Env with TMO1.9 and I can't tell it effects it, but not running it currently. I mostly like Real Env because the aircraft relections mod works much better with it.

NEW Real Environment mod
Lite_fog_ V2+Slow_water
Aircraft_reflections


However, you're limited to 1.4 mods. I think there is a sticky in the mods sections that work with 1.4. Seems I ran PE4 over the 1.4 ver of TMO fine.

Don't play OM...

IRISH4Life
02-16-10, 12:57 PM
I appreciate your response. I was think of changing to 1.5 but was afraid that it would change the whole game for me. Does 1.5 just add subs and graphics? or is it a whole new game change.

I was just looking at completing the campaign for 1.4 then add 1.5 and complete that campaign or does it not work that way? maybe 1.5 is only additional missions?????

I just don't know enough and don't have enough time in the day to read all the forums.

Thanks for your help. I will try your suggestions and may just upgrade to 1.5.

IRISH4life

IRISH4Life
02-16-10, 02:02 PM
Please post your install sequences with major mods and smaller mods that work for people.

I apreciate the information as I am sure that other subsim players do as well since there are millions of combinations. This simplifes life and gives most a direction to start their experimentation of mods.

Find what works and the work from there is what I say and if many of you have something that works let us know.

IRISH4life

Armistead
02-16-10, 02:32 PM
It changes for the better...Graphics just improve, simply theres more mods that add eye candy.

You may want to add skins to you boat.....With 1.5 you have a lot more ships to deal with, some are very mean. For reality the TMO interiors 3d are great. Obvious a good video card with the right settings really improve things. Finish your 1.4 campaign, then you may want to step up to 1.5. I think someone has a thread in the mod forum on mods that work with 1.4

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/carriersubawash.jpg

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/SH4Img2010-01-22_010511_718.jpg

http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/SH4Img2010-01-06_042637_937-1.jpg



http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/SH4Img2010-01-01_002618_718.jpg

IRISH4Life
02-16-10, 03:24 PM
Listed Below is a list of files for the SHIV 1.4 and where to get them is there a list just like this for 1.5 with the correct sequence. THANKS TO BEARTOOTH91! If so please attach the link to the thread, if there is one.

YOU SOLD ME! I am upgrading to 1.5 tomorrow. That just means more downloading for me but It seems that the results will be well worth the time adding mods.

My system should be able to handle the graphics

Intel Core 2 quad Q6600 2.4 GHZ
4 g of RAM
GeForce NVidia 8800 GT 512 mb
Windows 7 64 bit
Sound Blaster Audigy zs2


Found all of this information by another author I just cut and pasted the info for others and myself. If there is not a setup list like this could someone who is using, created, suggesting options for correct install sequence along with extra mods etc.

Thanks,

IRISH4life

Stock 1.4 game with Run Silent Run Deep - The Campaign:
RSRDC_V350_for_V14 --D/L Link: http://silenthunter.filefront.com/fi..._for_14;106055 (http://silenthunter.filefront.com/file/Run_Silent_Run_Deep_The_Campaign_V350_for_14;10605 5)
RSRDC_V350_Patch1 --D/L Link: http://silenthunter.filefront.com/fi...or_v350;106057 (http://silenthunter.filefront.com/file/Run_Silent_Run_Deep_The_Campaign_Patch_for_v350;10 6057)
RSRDC_SH4V14_CTDFIX --D/L Link: http://silenthunter.filefront.com/fi...top_Fix;106051 (http://silenthunter.filefront.com/file/Run_Silent_Run_Deep_The_Campaign_Crash_to_Desktop_ Fix;106051)

Trigger Maru, Trigger Maru Overhauled w/ RSRDC (optional):
REL_TriggerMaru_Overhaul --D/L Link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OKA4IYO9 (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OKA4IYO9)
-OR-
1_TMaru_Trigger_Maru_1.7.6 --D/L Link: http://silenthunter.filefront.com/fi...aru_176;106067 (http://silenthunter.filefront.com/file/Trigger_Maru_176;106067)
RSRDC_TMOv14_V370 --D/L Link: http://silenthunter.filefront.com/fi...ampaign;106047 (http://silenthunter.filefront.com/file/Run_Silent_Run_Deep_The_Campaign;106047)
RSRDC_V370_Patch1 --D/L Link: http://silenthunter.filefront.com/fi...or_v370;106049 (http://silenthunter.filefront.com/file/Run_Silent_Run_Deep_The_Campaign_Patch_for_v370;10 6049)
RSRDC_SH4V14_CTDFIX --D/L Link: http://silenthunter.filefront.com/fi...top_Fix;106051 (http://silenthunter.filefront.com/file/Run_Silent_Run_Deep_The_Campaign_Crash_to_Desktop_ Fix;106051)

Note that TM-1.7.6 or the original TMO (for 1.4) will work with RSRDC V370.

Real Fleet Boat for v1.4 w/ RSRDC (optional):
RFB_v1-4_031408 --D/L Link: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4TQ0IULI (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4TQ0IULI)
RFB_V1-4_TorpedoFix_081108 --D/L Link: http://silenthunter.filefront.com/fi...x_Patch;106053 (http://silenthunter.filefront.com/file/Real_Fleet_Boat_V14_Torpedo_Fix_Patch;106053)
RSRDC_RFBv14_V390 --D/L Link: http://silenthunter.filefront.com/fi...at_V390;106061 (http://silenthunter.filefront.com/file/Run_Silent_Run_Deep_The_Campaign_for_Real_Fleet_Bo at_V390;106061)
RSRDC_v390_Patch2 --D/L Link: http://silenthunter.filefront.com/fi...Patch_2;106065 (http://silenthunter.filefront.com/file/Run_Silent_Run_Deep_The_Campaign_for_Real_Fleet_Bo at_V390_Patch_2;106065)
RSRDC_SH4V14_CTDFIX --D/L Link: http://silenthunter.filefront.com/fi...top_Fix;106051 (http://silenthunter.filefront.com/file/Run_Silent_Run_Deep_The_Campaign_Crash_to_Desktop_ Fix;106051)
-- note there is no "patch 1" for RSRDC v390. Patch 2 contains all the needed fixes.

The above files are the last releases for 1.4. They will not work with 1.5.

FooFighter's Sub Skins:
website link (download the skins from there): http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/ (http://www.oldsmobile1958.com/silenthunter/)

ROW, PE, or Environment should be installed last. Rumor has it PE4 or Environment will work with 1.4. I'm currently running PE4 with TMO and RSRDC V370.


Thanks for your organization Beartooth91. I think that we all appreciate your work.

IRISH4life

Inner Sound
02-16-10, 03:38 PM
Armistead, that's a fine screenshot there, the top one.

AVGWarhawk
02-16-10, 03:50 PM
Yeah man, great shot of the flat top on the way to turning turtle. :yeah:

IRISH4Life
02-16-10, 10:20 PM
POST YOUR MOD Setups. Give us Newbies what you elders are running. You dont need to provide the links just the mods in the order that works for you? If you are willing.

Thanks,

IRISH4life

Armistead
02-16-10, 11:28 PM
Yeah man, great shot of the flat top on the way to turning turtle. :yeah:

One of my favorites. The water creeping up on the con deck looks good there. This one from the same series, one Dec SS contest...Like the other one better, but this one had the explosion...think it won SS of the year, but not many voters.
http://i651.photobucket.com/albums/uu235/Armistead1424/SH4Img2009-12-03_180701_296.jpg

IRISH4Life
02-17-10, 12:05 AM
ARMISTEAD,

So you are running the SH IV 1.5 with TMO 1.9 (like I said I am switching tomm). Are there any negatives to the newer upgrade TMO's ( I was reading a post that said that some of the stuff that was in the 1.4 versions of TMO were nice but not in the versions for SHIV 1.5. I would hate to lose some of the "TRUE AWESOMENESS" of the sim.

The screen shots you are dropping are all from these mods? Awesome!

What are your graphics settings? Anything special?

magic452
02-17-10, 03:50 AM
With TMO1.9 you won't lose anything but gain much.

The only negative with 1.9 is much more deadly escorts and that is not really a negative. 1.9 is a very challenging mod.

I have run SH4 1.5 with a verity of mods, depends on how I feel like playing at a particular time.

TMO 1.9 and related patches. (don't run environmental mods with TMO)
I don't have this loaded up at the moment so don't have my complete mod list. Still trying to finish my TMO1.63 career first.

With and without RSRD. (More realistic ship and convoy traffic and all the real navel engagements).

Ship Centered Accuracy Fix (easier manual targeting for the non 100% times)
Maxoptics with SCAF (like the larger periscope)

Most of Websters mods work well with TMO (better air patrols etc.)

Mods are like going to a fine restaurant, everybody orders something different and the next time you go you may order something different.

You just have to try things out and see what you like and how you want to play the game, again everybody is different.

I've played at 100% realism and at other times at a little lower setting just for fun, didn't find 100% all that much fun.
Right now I'm playing at a somewhat easy setting and enjoying it.

You can run two or more installs and put together different mods to suite how you feel at the time. MultiSH4 is the mod for this.

Aremistead is using TMO 1.9 and has a pretty stout machine and he is also very good at screen shots, wish I had his good eye.

Magic

Armistead
02-17-10, 04:49 AM
ARMISTEAD,

So you are running the SH IV 1.5 with TMO 1.9 (like I said I am switching tomm). Are there any negatives to the newer upgrade TMO's ( I was reading a post that said that some of the stuff that was in the 1.4 versions of TMO were nice but not in the versions for SHIV 1.5. I would hate to lose some of the "TRUE AWESOMENESS" of the sim.

The screen shots you are dropping are all from these mods? Awesome!

What are your graphics settings? Anything special?

I would load nHancer and use the settings in this thread, they work great for the game and you should see quite a difference. Your card should work great for the game. My GTX 295 gives some added sharpness, but I don't see a lot of difference over the 250 I use to run.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128517&page=23

You don't lose anything by upgrading to 1.4. You get added fixes and all the newer mods work with 1.5. TMO 1.9 has added features, you don't lose a thing and much better than the ver of TMO for 1.4. Just don't run PE4 over it. PE4 as much as you like it is an older Env mod. Env 5 is much better overall and tweaked to go with TMO.

Most of my SS come from this mod set up, although I do run other mods at times. Time of day and other effects make better SS's, I certainly have taken crappy ones.

I love the EAX sound sim with Pouls sounds...Just load it, you'll see. Make you jump out of your chair when a shell goes by.

Also love the radio stations by Fred. I've about got a single hard drive just for radio stations, but nothing like listening to the war as it really happened and all the entertainment shows.

I go for realism. I want the game as close to real as I can get. I usually play with cams and contacts off, which makes it fairly real. You lose the cam, but it's really a cheat cam. Nothing like being stuck in your sub during battle, but takes time to learn to track and set up attacks. I just alter as I have time, because I do like eye candy.

I wouldn't play without RSRD..Nothing like getting in the middle of historical battles and watching the surface fleets fight it out, planes in the air, can get intense, plus attacking 50 ship convoys can be a lot of fun.

Nothing like battles in storms, having to shoot using sonar and radar.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6421019045/m/2931074728

Here I came back to Subic bay and Jap planes were attacking as I pulled into port..Fairly old, not sure what video card, but still good SS's.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6421019045/m/3321000087

And the famous Allied plane attack on Rabaul...although my story at the end got me in trouble and had to replace it with the edited verion, but I'm always picking on nohunt.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6421019045/m/2071068767?r=4531074867#4531074867

Inner Sound
02-17-10, 07:10 AM
Love that story in your last link, class !

Armistead
02-17-10, 08:02 AM
Love that story in your last link, class !

Yea, poor nohunt...I've about written a book on his exploits......but he just kept asking for it.

IRISH4Life
02-17-10, 09:21 AM
Ok, question about nhancer- Does it work with Windows 7. It has a 64 bit file but it only mentions Windows XP? Thought you might know?

Armistead
02-17-10, 09:43 AM
Ok, question about nhancer- Does it work with Windows 7. It has a 64 bit file but it only mentions Windows XP? Thought you might know?

Should work fine. I have xp on this rig by choice, but have used it playing my other rig with win 7 and did fine...

IRISH4Life
02-17-10, 09:47 AM
THANKS YOU ARE GREAT!

IRISH4life

IRISH4Life
02-17-10, 10:00 AM
Questions? SORRY!

OK I now have 1.05 installed. Everyone calls it 1.5. Ok I pulled up my Generic mod enabler and all my mods were still there. Are they OK or do I need to reinstall all the one that will continue to work with 1.5?

I am going to delete all the ones that worked with 1.4 obviously.

Also could not find the EAX File: EAX_sound_sim_without_Websters_Maneuver_SonarFix

I found the EAX Sound file and it continues to load at 6% right now. Do I just not install The sonar fix part?

IRISH4life

Armistead
02-17-10, 10:14 AM
Your mods sure work fine, just use the correct ones. Obvious you need to load the ones you want for 1.5, such as TMO, ect...Just follow the right order shown. Load them before you start the game of if you have it running, restart the game and make sure you see the new TMO loading screen.

I don't use the sonar fix with TMO.

What I do is keep a seperate folder on my desktop for each supermod. Take TMO, the only thing that goes in that folder is mods that work with TMO.

One thing that can be a pain is when you load and unload a lot of mods eventually left over residue files somehow get stuck, registry files, prefetch, ect...Eventually you play around with mods you're gonna get mod soup, so keep a clean data backup or be prepared to do a reinstall once in awhile...this mostly applies to serious mod stackers than don't read the readme's...

I assume if you got the 1.5 disc you did a total reinstall of the game. I don't recall it being a patch unless you got it off steam. Lil confused there cause I can't remember. If it's a new game, you obviously have to start over and create a mods folder again with jsgme.

Another pain, filefront can be bad for not giving you complete downloads..you'll see this when you get an error when you try to unzip.

Well I've been playing around all night......time to go to bed...good luck Irish.

Armistead
02-17-10, 10:17 AM
Oh yea, the EAX..I assume you found this, which is correct. The one file has versions for all mods with or without the sonar fix. So when you unzip it, open the folder and pick the one you want....should be in the readme.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1376

IRISH4Life
02-17-10, 10:18 AM
Thanks again.

As for the complete reinstall. NOPE. It was an update like file from UBIsoft.

Good night I may need to do a complete reinstall dont want to but I may need to.

IRISH4life

Armistead
02-17-10, 10:23 AM
It you dl it then it's just a add on patch...I would think everything would be fine. If you haven't loaded it yet, I would disable all mods which you have to anyway, then load it, then do mods...

AVGWarhawk
02-17-10, 10:26 AM
For TMO all your really need is TMO 2.0. Ducimus has done a complete traffic overhaul. You can run RSRD by lurker if you like. Just a different way of traffic handling. Currently all I run is TMO and the sub interior overhaul. I find it is all well rounded and includes just about everything that I enjoy.

Since there is so much to digest concerning mods, this forum was created for RFB, TMO, RSRD and OM:

http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php?sid=7a82042423185c20ab647a9120c08614

Read away on this forum for each mod.

IRISH4Life
02-17-10, 10:31 AM
Armistead,

I thankfully I did disable the mods before installing. WHEWWWW.


AVGWarhawk,

I have been to that but I didnt realize 2.0 is available didnt see the link.. Will look for it.

Get some sleep Armistead, I appreciate your help.

IRISH4life

IRISH4Life
02-17-10, 10:36 AM
OK your messin with me. NO TMO 2.0. Cant find on file front or SUBSIM.

Maybe I am looking for the wrong file?????

IRISH4life

AVGWarhawk
02-17-10, 10:43 AM
I sorry, you are right. RFB is now 2.0. TMO is still 1.9. Go to the link I posted and you can see the forum for TMO.

IRISH4Life
02-17-10, 10:47 AM
I am guessing that you are talking about RFB ??? 2.0 TMO is still in the 1.9's but not postive??? right?

IRISH4life

AVGWarhawk
02-17-10, 10:54 AM
I am guessing that you are talking about RFB ??? 2.0 TMO is still in the 1.9's but not postive??? right?

IRISH4life

Correct. TMO 1.9. RFB 2.0. I follow both but only use one at a time.

IRISH4Life
02-17-10, 10:56 AM
Where do you find

TMO19_Patch_25012010 2009 is the best I can find. OR TMO 2.0?
Map Colour Original with terrain
Map Labels 1.3
TGT AOB TO PK FIX - TMO
TGT DIALS TO PK FIX - TMO
SCAF for TMO 1.9 BETA

IRISH4life

AVGWarhawk
02-17-10, 11:01 AM
All the current patches, etc:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=cat&id=10

You can find out about TMO in this thread:

(http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=cat&id=10)http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=132330

IRISH4Life
02-17-10, 11:30 AM
AVGWARHAWK,

I can't find the 2010 update anywhere. Is that found in some special place or only special CAPTAINS CLUB Members can get it. All I can find is TMO19_Patch_081209 and I am looking for TMO19_Patch_25012010. Its not in the thread unless its hidden. I clicked on all of Ducimus's links?

Also SCAF only goes up to 1.7 and It was suggested to grab SCAF for SCAF TMO 1.9 BETA


Appreciate your assistance!

Thanks Again,

IRISH4life

Armistead
02-17-10, 11:42 AM
It's in the thread, almost at the bottom of the first post where all the info is..but here ya go.

http://www.filefront.com/15420647/TMO19_Patch_25012010.7z/

On the mods page at the bottom it says for all other mods, but here is the link.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=cat&id=2

You'll have to scroll through the pages for each type, but i''ll see what I can find.

IRISH4Life
02-17-10, 11:46 AM
MUCH MUCH APPRECIATED YOU ARE GREAT. Any suggestions for the SCAF 1.9 Beta??? I know I am bothering you now.

SORRRRRRY.

Thanks,


IRISH4life

AVGWarhawk
02-17-10, 11:46 AM
I believe SCAF is already in 1.9.

Patch:
http://www.filefront.com/15420647/TMO19_Patch_25012010.7z/

Armistead
02-17-10, 11:52 AM
Here is the TGT dials PK fix..DL and unzip and you will find both mods I listed.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1228

Scaf isn't included for TMO 1.9...I'll see if I can find it, some just run SCAF and maxoptics for 1.7. You just have to remember not all ships are included in either, so you'll have to check your id book and learn them, but most do mark at the funnel...I assume you understand what it does'.

Armistead
02-17-10, 11:54 AM
Map labels...RSRD adds most map labels, this mod just adds some extra ones not included with RSRD..

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=780

You'll want shippack 1, adds extra ships, seems to work with RSRD fine, although most don't have SCAF measurements, so you'll mark the highest point.

http://www.filefront.com/14838667/Ship-pack-1.zip/

PE4 debris...like all the bodies floating on the water...

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1458

AVGWarhawk
02-17-10, 11:56 AM
No bother at all Irish. I had thought SCAF was in TMO. Duci spoke of it. Anyway, you are on your way. You are using JSGME?

AVGWarhawk
02-17-10, 11:58 AM
Map labels...RSRD adds most map labels, this mod just adds some extra ones not included with RSRD..

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=780


TMO does have the map labels. Duci made them and if you just use TMO without RSRD the patrol orders send you to spots on the map that are named as Duci created. Duci's map and traffic is pretty good IMO. This is the reason I just use TMO and the interior mod. :03:

AVGWarhawk
02-17-10, 12:02 PM
Add this also!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=158706

Load it at the end of all the TMO mods. :03:

Armistead
02-17-10, 12:09 PM
TMO does have the map labels. Duci made them and if you just use TMO without RSRD the patrol orders send you to spots on the map that are named as Duci created. Duci's map and traffic is pretty good IMO. This is the reason I just use TMO and the interior mod. :03:

He added a few, but about 100 less than RSRD due to all the convoy traffic lurker added. Beyond stock I think Duc added Truk and WeWak, maybe a few others, but with RSRD and Map labels you get about 100 more and most are needed.

Course I'm trying TMO without RSRD just to see how Duc worked on his convoy layers. I miss some of the historical convoys that Lurker has, but love what Duc did, convoys zig some, speed is better and they don't seem to mill around as much...

I agree, the 3d interiors are great.

IRISH4Life
02-17-10, 12:14 PM
This is awesome.

Thanks..

Can you suggest anything else. You have been a huge help I am sure that people out there reading this will inevitably try your setups and will appreciate the help.

Thanks again.

Still installing

IRISH4life

AVGWarhawk
02-17-10, 12:47 PM
When Duci started fiddling with traffic he asked if I would try it out and see how it worked. I liked it . Seemed like enough but not crazy either. Plus, he has some other ships of dubious voyages that can ruin your day if you are not aware. Overall I enjoyed Duci's traffic and just left it as that. So, just TMO 1.9, patch and interiors being done (Duci will add these when all are done) is all I run. I do not see much more out that would enhance what I already have. Eventually I will run RFB 2.0 and see what LukeFF is up to with his mod. :up:

Armistead
02-17-10, 12:50 PM
Well, depends on what all you're DL...if you're at the main mod page there are numerous ones that will work, but you need to have some knowledge of what works with what.

I would start with what you have. So many factors come into play with different setups, ect...It's best to add a few at a time, if not one at a time and do a patrol. You should be OK with the ones mentioned, but do some patrols and make sure things work right.

I couldn't find the SCAF beta, may be at another forum and will have to look later...My wife is home, so she can watch the sick young..in, so I'm off ta bed fo sho.......

Just remember....ride the coast line of Java late Feb and March...Theres some big convoys there...you might get lucky and find the Java invasion force...I think maybe late Feb, early March it's about 50 miles north of Semarang....and another big one is near Merak in the harbor right of the label March 3...near that time...

IRISH4Life
02-17-10, 01:06 PM
Great.

I am working this, and doing my 7th Grade Science fair report. (NOT MINE- I am sitting here MAKING Sure that my 7th Grader is actually doing it). HE's not really motivated.

I have 4 kids, this is the 3rd thru science fair and the least motivated.

IRISH4life

AVGWarhawk
02-17-10, 01:29 PM
Kids...I have two. :yeah:

Armistead
02-17-10, 06:51 PM
Great.

I am working this, and doing my 7th Grade Science fair report. (NOT MINE- I am sitting here MAKING Sure that my 7th Grader is actually doing it). HE's not really motivated.

I have 4 kids, this is the 3rd thru science fair and the least motivated.

IRISH4life

I have 3...25, 19, 13....and yes I'm a grandfather or was made one at 44

Sailor Steve
02-17-10, 07:08 PM
I have two, aged 30 and 27. Amazingly no grandkids...or at least none that I've heard of.

IRISH4Life
02-17-10, 10:10 PM
Hey I want to thank you,

You made my year. Trigger Maru is awesome. Installed everything you suggested in that order and it works beautifully. I am SURE that Fleet boat is awesome as well that would have been an equal choice and I may do that later. But right now I will sit in amazement at the graphics I am running.

I havent even tweaked the graphics with the nhancer.

I have the CBS Radio mod installed but I dont know if that overwrites TRIGGERS music. I cant figure out how to use the radio mod but I am guessing I dont need it.

Already sunk the carrier with the Balao. 1 torpedo even. I was too busy dodging the 3 carrier escorts to watch it go down. I got away with hard 90 degree turns and cutbacks. Jumped to the exterior camera and watched stuff float on the surface and the lifeboats paddle away slowly.

As for kids , I have a 19 year old at Rowing for OSU, a 17 year old headed to OSU, a soon to be 13 yr old, and a 11 year old. I grudgingly had to turn off the game to take my carpool turn to volleyball practice. No grandkids- and hopefully not till I get them out of college. That living on campus thing worries me. I lived with 5 girls at Ohio State so I know what can happen. UGH.

I became interested in subs when I put together my father inlaws frame from the USS Picuda (the Pampanito's sister boat). I found the First day issue envelope, the launch tag and the launch ribbon with both the Pampanito and the Picuda on the ribbon. I took his dolphins and a launch flag ( the long thin banner stars and strips) and the original artwork and changed and added to it to make it look good put it all together with the 3 USS Picuda patches that are known into one frame. It is pretty cool.

AWESOME!

Thanks again.

IRISH4life

Armistead
02-17-10, 10:31 PM
You have to manually add the radio command files which is easy copy and paste, just let us know when you're ready.

Take some SS's of that first carrier sunk with TMO...

IRISH4Life
02-17-10, 10:33 PM
I can go for quite awhile enjoying what I have been provided for playing the game.

I have 5 more questions.

Radio Station manager? no one is answering my question of the Truckers page. Do I need it? or does TMO have everything I need.

How do I erase my careers that I incorrectly set up. Like I put it on hard and realized that I have no exterior camera. so I created another. but the Hard save is still sitting there.

I have a small knack for artwork and wanted to add a Picuda to my sub and maybe a different captains photo do I just take it and change it and reinstall it in the same file that I took it from ( of course backing up the originals). or do I need a program that allows me to place artwork on the images and then save to the game. like the art enabler from Mircroprose Mighty 8th B-17. I had all new bomber jackets with my own plane and pinup jacket art (Bottoms up was the name). If I knew how I would post it. Check in my album I might try and get it in there.

Lastly you mentioned cleaning the data files. Please point me towards that thread when you get the chance. I have typed in search Clean data but nothing comes back.

IRISH4life

Armistead
02-17-10, 11:08 PM
Radio stations manager just keeps all your stations in order. Nice to have if you run lots of stations. TMO has no radio stations or manager, so you'll have to load it if you want it.

Not sure what you mean by hard saves and the exterior cam. I take it you fixed the file lines to get the cams back. Deleting careers, I just delete the saved games.

Killflags use to be the skin pro's around here. Guys got busy and quit, although you can still DL numerous past skins they made. They do have a DIY kit..but I haven't used it.

I've played with posters once. Had to use a DDS converter, but all I did was replace the sub posters with pics of my wife...that's why you never see SS's of the interior of my sub...I'll see if I can find some links. Webster should be pretty good at this stuff so you may want to ask him.

I didn't mean clean the data file per say if that's what you're referring. If you do a clean install and have a totally clean SHIV data folder, just best to make a copy of it and have it as a back up. If things go wrong, easy to just reinstall the data folder...

IRISH4Life
02-18-10, 12:37 AM
I figured out a couple of things.

1) when you start the career on hard you need to click on realism settings then and select camera. thats what I meant by hard save. Exterior cam issue solved I was just stupid.

2) I would love any DIY skin updater. I like the red fin and can do things like that. Whatever the sim uses. point me in the right direction. I can use Photoshop easily.

3) I will make a copy of the Data folder. I will just copy it to the back up harddrive.

4) I am still stumped with the radio station manager. Cant figure it out. I have installed it as it says (I think) I am sure that I did some thing wrong. I have tried both options used the mod installer and simply placed it where the SHIV .exe file is. Tried to open up and both times it says .ini file not found?

Let me know if anyone know how to get it working. all those radio station files are sitting there waiting to go in that program.

Thanks,

IRISH4life

Armistead
02-18-10, 02:35 AM
I haven't used Radio Manager in a long time, so I'll have to check it out. I play mine in the background using windows media player...one, so I can listen to it when dived and the sound quality is good so I can hear it better.

I do have 2 radio stations in the game that I sometimes use. Without RM, you just open the sound file, radio..You should see the Washington station there. After all the files are extracted, you just have to copy the first file to the radio file. In the readme it will then give you channel settings that you copy and paste using the radio ini, a notepad file that you should see the same place, just open it up and paste the channel info given.

I'll have to look at RM again. I know you need a shortcut on the DT and you just open it up and import all your stations there, then activate the mod...i'll see if I can figure it out soon.

Heres the site with all the skins that Killflags did. I assume the site is still up
http://battleflags.net/submarines/index.php

Heres the old killflag thread. Graph may still be doing some, but you can check it out. I run my pages backwards, so just go to the first post for info. Somewhere the DIY kit is there near the end of the thread if they didn't list it on the first post.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=122870&highlight=killflags&page=100

AVGWarhawk
02-18-10, 11:50 AM
Hey I want to thank you,

You made my year. Trigger Maru is awesome. Installed everything you suggested in that order and it works beautifully. I am SURE that Fleet boat is awesome as well that would have been an equal choice and I may do that later. But right now I will sit in amazement at the graphics I am running.

I havent even tweaked the graphics with the nhancer.

I have the CBS Radio mod installed but I dont know if that overwrites TRIGGERS music. I cant figure out how to use the radio mod but I am guessing I dont need it.

Already sunk the carrier with the Balao. 1 torpedo even. I was too busy dodging the 3 carrier escorts to watch it go down. I got away with hard 90 degree turns and cutbacks. Jumped to the exterior camera and watched stuff float on the surface and the lifeboats paddle away slowly.

As for kids , I have a 19 year old at Rowing for OSU, a 17 year old headed to OSU, a soon to be 13 yr old, and a 11 year old. I grudgingly had to turn off the game to take my carpool turn to volleyball practice. No grandkids- and hopefully not till I get them out of college. That living on campus thing worries me. I lived with 5 girls at Ohio State so I know what can happen. UGH.

I became interested in subs when I put together my father inlaws frame from the USS Picuda (the Pampanito's sister boat). I found the First day issue envelope, the launch tag and the launch ribbon with both the Pampanito and the Picuda on the ribbon. I took his dolphins and a launch flag ( the long thin banner stars and strips) and the original artwork and changed and added to it to make it look good put it all together with the 3 USS Picuda patches that are known into one frame. It is pretty cool.

AWESOME!

Thanks again.

IRISH4life

Glad it worked out for you. Yes, TMO is awesome. Ducimus does creative work and is passionate about the fleetboats/PTO. Now you see what the game can be, not what it was out of the box. RFB is good also and so is RSRD for traffic. You can alway mess with those later once you completed some careers in the TMO world for SH4. That is what I do.

I used the radio mod years ago. It worked well. I remember I had to load it before I fired up SH4. It keeps track of what was played so it did not restart with every start of SH4. I have not used it for quite sometime. TMO has it's own radio and I like the favorites of the time Ducimus used. You can add your own music if you like. Navigate to your SH4 main folder, find the data folder. Look for the sound folder. Open and there will be a gramaphone folder. Put your selected music in there.



Plank owner for the Picuda from the sounds of it. Good for him. Those items are nice to have. I have a few items from the uncle who was a B-17 pilot in the ETO. I made a shadow box with these items. Small tribute as he was shot down and did not survive. I became interested in submarines from SH2/3/4 and this site. I currently belong to the USS Torsk Volunteer Association. We restore and maintain the USS Torsk in Baltimore.

Kids, I have two. 11 and 14. Both going on 21 and know everything! I guess I will hire them now since they know everything. :doh:

Enjoy!

Armistead
02-18-10, 12:23 PM
I believe war is referring to the gramophone, not the radio. I believe with TMO 1.9 it's an optional mod that gives you back the stock gram instead of the charts.....There are many gram mods that work with jsgme if you like old music....and I love mine, but I need my chart, so I just use media player.

Still, nothing beats the radio mods. The Tokyo Rose is funny, hard to hear, but give it a listen with media player so you can hear it.." Oh Irish, you American Sailor, don't you know your gal is cheating with AVGwarhawk when you're out to sea"...KNX is my fav, good mix of news and entertainment. So many of them you bout need a hard drive to load them all...takes time on some, 24 files...lol. I like to listen to radio at night anyway and sometimes will just listen to these old stations...

Armistead
02-18-10, 12:29 PM
Glad it worked out for you. Yes, TMO is awesome. Ducimus does creative work and is passionate about the fleetboats/PTO. Now you see what the game can be, not what it was out of the box. RFB is good also and so is RSRD for traffic. You can alway mess with those later once you completed some careers in the TMO world for SH4. That is what I do.

I used the radio mod years ago. It worked well. I remember I had to load it before I fired up SH4. It keeps track of what was played so it did not restart with every start of SH4. I have not used it for quite sometime. TMO has it's own radio and I like the favorites of the time Ducimus used. You can add your own music if you like. Navigate to your SH4 main folder, find the data folder. Look for the sound folder. Open and there will be a gramaphone folder. Put your selected music in there.



Plank owner for the Picuda from the sounds of it. Good for him. Those items are nice to have. I have a few items from the uncle who was a B-17 pilot in the ETO. I made a shadow box with these items. Small tribute as he was shot down and did not survive. I became interested in submarines from SH2/3/4 and this site. I currently belong to the USS Torsk Volunteer Association. We restore and maintain the USS Torsk in Baltimore.

Kids, I have two. 11 and 14. Both going on 21 and know everything! I guess I will hire them now since they know everything. :doh:

Enjoy!


Cool, I finally saw the Torsk last year. My company did some free work on the Clamagore and Yorktown in Patriot's Point in Charleston years ago. The Yorktown has got to be the best floating museum, really got more stuff than any museum I know. Nothing beats sitting on the brigde and listening to old battle radio like real time. The Clagamore was converted to a Guppy, so looks more modern, but a cool sub, just hate they limit the rooms you can visit, although I got to play in them all.

IRISH4Life
02-18-10, 02:45 PM
Thats what my father in law said they did with the Picuda. Converted it to a Guppy Class. That was when he was a officer JG based out of Key West. He was on a cruise in the Med when my wife was born and the Captains wife stormed over to the base and made the NAVY send special radio traffic so he would know he had a new daughter.

He told me during refits there were crew and officers that would get sick because sometimes the boats dont resurface due to bad repairs or weight and balance issues. He said on one refit they dove, the boat nosed over but they didnt go anywhere. Props sticking out of the water and all, they just sat there. He said a lower grade officer was stumped. He took over and flooded the rear and lowered its butt back into the water.

He talks a little about the Bay of Pigs too. NOT MUCH but a little.

He was assigned to the Sub in Chicago for awhile as a Naval Reserve Officer. He retired as Navy Reserve Captain. He met Admiral Rickover about going NUKE but he was not an engineer and they werent taking anyone less. He was a Lawyer.

Thanks Again.

IRISH4life.

AVGWarhawk
02-18-10, 02:46 PM
If you visit the Torsk again let me know. You can play in all the rooms. I have been deep in the belly of that beast. The electic motors below manuevering are huge. Such a tight spot to get to the brushes. I have been to the bilges of the engine rooms. It reminded me of the movies Aliens when they aliens start coming out of the steel work in the walls/ceiling. You do not appreciate how big those diesels are until you see the bottom half. Of course the battery rooms are empty of batteries. These are storage for tools and materials now. I enjoy working on her.

IRISH4Life
02-18-10, 05:22 PM
I would love to visit. If and when I do I will contact you for a tour. My F INLAW said they didn't like the batteries. Nasty things, dangerous.

Thanks,

IRISH4life

IRISH4Life
02-18-10, 11:54 PM
I might have been pushing things a bit hard I received the GREEN screen of death.

Reset and everything is fine.

I was in time lapse trying to race across the ocean so I could sink a ship or two.

IRISH4life

IRISH4Life
02-19-10, 04:40 PM
I have narrowed it down to when I go into the Captains room I get the green screen of death. I know its something I added after the updated awesome interior because it worked at first. the I added stuff. It might be the removal of the websters great plankton removal (love that clear water). I'll try and remove it and go from there.


IRISH4life

Armistead
02-19-10, 05:43 PM
Never tried it, I like the stuff...

Most of Websters are for stock unless he states so. If they work with mods he'll ususally add the mod on the back..Like I use his

Webters smaller rain TMO.

So unless he states TMO at the end of his mods, I don't use them unless I ask him. Many never state what the mod works with, that's when you have to look at it's files, ect...or risk it...Some mods may not hit a factor on one patrol that they will on another and do fine.

I about went nuts once. I could play fine, patrol after patrol, then get a CTD..Finally figured out it was a radio problem, when I crossed a certain longitude line, whamo....

AVGWarhawk
02-19-10, 07:18 PM
I would love to visit. If and when I do I will contact you for a tour. My F INLAW said they didn't like the batteries. Nasty things, dangerous.

Thanks,

IRISH4life

Just PM me :03:

IRISH4Life
02-20-10, 12:27 AM
OK, I will when we might make it over there.

Thanks,

IRISH4life

IRISH4Life
02-20-10, 11:06 PM
Ok,

It was not Websters no plankton. I put in a new camera view by accident and it messed up that file. All good now this set up is great. I am on the first mission. My kids thought it was funny, I was sleeping at the computer and the sub was just sailing along with the phonograph playing. Luckily I was still mid Pacific and there were not aircraft hunting me. What a long trip 80hours.

I am down near Formosa right now.

OK anyway no plankton works just fine.

Thanks,

IRISH4life

Armistead
02-21-10, 12:23 AM
Did the music put you to sleep ............

IRISH4Life
02-21-10, 09:41 PM
The gentle lapping of the ocean against the Hull of the boat, and the gramaphone tunes.

I was tired.

IRISH4life