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Well I never had this problem before....
Just changed video cards from ATI to Nvidia.I uninstalled the ATI drivers etc before fitting the Nvidia card with latest drivers but TvT now crashes when you click to start the mission.
I did a clean install of TvT but still no luck.
It ran before with the very same Nvidia card.Weird.
I have all of those 'missing' files in the TvT folder and Windows/System folder too.
This isn't a game problem I am sure,it's something to do with the swap over of video cards.
I am going to try a few things first.Stand by....:damn:
Chucky have you tried re-insytalling your drivers? What about your DirectX have you updated it?Sometimes when you chnage graphic cards you need to update drivers etc.
BTW thereīs a guy on another thread whoīs got a problem with the missing 70 and 71 dll files.Canīt start the game.Do you know where he can download them?
Best of luck
Frinik
Thanks Frinik,still working on the problem.
I suppose we could e-mail them to him?
To hell with this :damn:
I'm going to format this damn drive and start again.
I may be some time and if this doesn't fix it then the PC is going out the bedroom window,closely followed by me :salute:
ZeeWolf
02-14-10, 03:48 PM
To hell with this :damn:
I'm going to format this damn drive and start again.
I may be some time and if this doesn't fix it then the PC is going out the bedroom window,closely followed by me :salute:
CHUCKY WHAT DID YOU DO man!
A tip for you and anyone who changes out their video card:
The number one thing is (in windows) UN-install your video adapter
driver and reboot. You should see at the log in screen a change in
the screen size if the UN-install was successful. Then DO NOT LOG IN
shut the computer down or off. Then add your new video adapter.
Hang in there Chucky we got you covered Kameraden! :yep:
ZW
Thanks ZW,I am sure I did that though.It needed a format anyway,there were other issues that I needed to address that a format and re-install would cure.
Anyway I am back now,drinking Gin and waiting for Steam to re-install 90 gig's worth of games.Slow isn't the word,and I am running out of Gin :nope:
Will try TvT tomorrow but I am sure it will be fine.
Chucky.
Chucky, I read an article about external graphic card which are a bit like external hard disk and unlike the inbedded ones they are easy to use and apparently you don't need to update everything in order to use them.The downside they tend to be much more expensive. That's one thing to consider in the future as I am sure the price will come down.
Chucky I feel for you man.Losing all your games!!!!!S...t!
That's one reason I refuse to change my OS to Windows 7,
Tell me what specs will you have with your new Nvidia compared to the ATI that you had?
Easy on the gin! We won't want you to drive your Tiger in an antitank ditch ...;)
Take care and best of luck!
Lol Frinik @ the gin comment!
I am now using a Nvidia 280 GTX OC,my previous card was a ATI 4890.
I thought the ATI was quicker but after benchmarking them both the 280 came out on top so in it went.
Will have to see what frames TvT runs at now.
:wah: Chucky after googling your new Nvidia 280 GTX OC and seeing the specs I am the one who will need the bottle of gin....:o
Compared to what I have you'll be rocketing your way to Kursk!!!!
I only hope that you can fix the problems. I suspect you'll be getting 50 to 60 FPS with that m:dead:onster.....
Get a bergepanther I may end up in an AT ditch
Cheers
Frinik
GRRRR! wtf? It still won't work?
It loads up but I can detect a sort of 'whistle' from the speakers whilst in the menu.It crashed once saying can't initialise sound drivers so I think I know where to go next.
This ran fine before I changed the video card.:damn:
Chucky I read that post written for a guy who had updated his computer in some wway and couldn't start the game.It had to do with sound hardware, becayuse when you mentioned that whistling sound thta come sotu of yoru speaker I trhought may be it's related to your sound.Here it is:
long time ago i read something about a sound bug in the Lighthouse Forum
maybe you need to update your sound-drivers or
eventually you need to switch off sound hardware acceleration
This is how to do (translated by google:D)
Typing Start-> Run-> dxdiag
On the Sound tab, the current sound settings are displayed, and you can test DirectSound.
The slider for setting the sound hardware acceleration is used to correct audio glitches that might be caused by some audio drivers. The best way to troubleshoot DirectSound audio problems is to reduce the acceleration by one notch and re-testing the application. Lowering the Hardware Sound Acceleration Level from the default "full acceleration" may lead to non-functioning of advanced audio processing techniques such as 3D spatialization.
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Hope it helps!
Cheers and stay off the gin( until you get the game worjking and can celebrate:rock:)
Thanks Frinik.
What is strange is that it ran before fine with the same soundcard.
In desperation I booted up my Win XP disc and installed it to there and guess what? Yes,still won't run so I guess there is some sort of conflict between the GTX 280 and the Asus Zonar D2X soundcard.
At this rate I will have to pop the ATI back in.
I will have to walk away now,I need to rest.Maybe have another go tonight.:salute:
Chucky isnīt there a tech at the shop where you bought the new GC unless you bought it online of course?
On the internet there are dozen of website devoted to upgrading GCs and giving advice and with Q and AS.Might not hurt to read some of them see if somebody did not have a similar problem and how it was solved.
I donīt think going back to your old GC is the solution though:down:.With Kursk coming soon you need the best performance.:D
All the best!
ZeeWolf
02-15-10, 11:32 AM
Try this Chucky:
StartMenu/Control Panel/Sounds and Audio Devices/Audio/
at Sound playback you have a Advance button
click that. Then in Performance you have a
slider for Hardware acceleration. Slide to
"None"
ZW
Frinik,I can't understand it.I have been building my own PC's for years and can always resolve problems but this has me stumped for the moment.
I even went back to on-board sound and still no joy.
I think I am missing some files,those damn msvci70.dll files and his chums.
I have msvci70.dll and msvcr70.dll in both the TvT folder and the windows system folder but I am sure there were 2 more similar named files.Can you have a look at your install for me Frinik please?
Thanks,Chucky.
Try this Chucky:
StartMenu/Control Panel/Sounds and Audio Devices/Audio/
at Sound playback you have a Advance button
click that. Then in Performance you have a
slider for Hardware acceleration. Slide to
"None"
ZW
I can try it ZW but I never had to do that before the re-install.
It's no wonder I drink,having a PC is worse than having a ugly woman as a wife :cry:
ZeeWolf
02-15-10, 12:13 PM
I can try it ZW but I never had to do that before the re-install.
It's no wonder I drink,having a PC is worse than having a ugly woman as a wife :cry:
:har: Hang in there Chucky, you may learn that it is the simplest solution
ie. (clearing the Cache folder) rather then thinking it's the most drastic (component incompatibility).
Remember: PC's are like woman. It's always something YOU did! (or didn't do ) :haha:
ZW
Chucky; I had a guy with those missing files on another post here's what he has and it' s working now.Mine's thez sam.Check your folder.
Cheers
msvcp71.dll all alone in the windows system folder
msvci70.dll
msvcp70.dll
msvcr70.dll
msvcr71.dll all in the windows system32 folder and a copy in the TvsT folder(just in case)
So far its working like this and I just cranked up all the visual options to max and the 1680x1050 resolution to match my monitor.
so far so good.
I got it working!
But now it's broken again. :hmmm:
'Unable to initialise sound driver'
I have all those files in the right places,so I am not sure.
This must be a TvT issue,every other game plays fine.
I will get to the bottom of it,don't worry comrades :salute:
Chucky did you read my previous post abotu problems with sound files?
Here's the repeat;it might help you:
This is how to do (translated by google:D)
Typing Start-> Run-> dxdiag
On the Sound tab, the current sound settings are displayed, and you can test DirectSound.
The slider for setting the sound hardware acceleration is used to correct audio glitches that might be caused by some audio drivers. The best way to troubleshoot DirectSound audio problems is to reduce the acceleration by one notch and re-testing the application. Lowering the Hardware Sound Acceleration Level from the default "full acceleration" may lead to non-functioning of advanced audio processing techniques such as 3D spatialization.
Chucky I went to a Uk based site which is dedicated to TvsT.I found 1 post which might or might not be of help.Anyway nothing is netirely useless and who knows?The first one deals with intro videos but also mentions video or sound problems. Here they are:
Game crashes upon playing intro videos.
A: In order to display the introvids, the latest videocodecs are required. There is a codecpack that helped a lot of people with video or sound problems. The k-lite-codec pack can be found here: http://k-lite-codec-pack.softonic.de/)installing this pack might solve your video problems. Alternatively, deleting the intro vids from the game directory (not recommended) forces the game to skip the vids and fire up the game instantly.
Luck!
Chucky my Friend! I surfed the internet looking for soemthing that specifically addresses your problem and I found this thread which seems very pormising becauise it concerns people like you who upgraded their graphic/video cards and have the unable to initialise sound driver message.Here's the thread with useful links.Hopefully you can solve this problem:(Sorry to bombard you with all my tips and suggestions:oops:)
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ZeeWolf
02-16-10, 11:48 AM
I got it working!
But now it's broken again. :hmmm:
'Unable to initialise sound driver'
I have all those files in the right places,so I am not sure.
This must be a TvT issue,every other game plays fine.
I will get to the bottom of it,don't worry comrades :salute:
Chucky would you e-mail me you execution.log I can give you a more accurate evaluation.
Help is on the way, :salute:
ZW
PS: frinik, you are doing a great service man!
Guys! Now it works! :woot:
I had to sacrifice a few Virgins (boy,they were hard to find) to the great Gaming God and He has granted me a working copy of TvT!
I can't tell you how I fixed it,but what I can now do is install TvT blindfolded and enter the serial number from memory.
Now all I have to do is install ZW's member's mod and the refuel scripts.
Just for clarification I install the 2B version only,or do I have to put the earlier versions on too.At this stage I don't want any more cock-ups.I have made another copy of the working TvT folder just in case.
Frinik,thanks for all your help mate,you are a real star and ZW you can probably dis-regard the execution file I sent you.
Chucky:salute:
ZeeWolf
02-16-10, 03:41 PM
Guys! Now it works! :woot:
I had to sacrifice a few Virgins (boy,they were hard to find) to the great Gaming God and He has granted me a working copy of TvT!
I can't tell you how I fixed it,but what I can now do is install TvT blindfolded and enter the serial number from memory.
Now all I have to do is install ZW's member's mod and the refuel scripts.
Just for clarification I install the 2B version only,or do I have to put the earlier versions on too.At this stage I don't want any more cock-ups.I have made another copy of the working TvT folder just in case.
Frinik,thanks for all your help mate,you are a real star and ZW you can probably dis-regard the execution file I sent you.
Chucky:salute:
That's fantastic Chucky and yes frinik is awesome. But I do have a tip for
you. In you execution.log I noticed that "UseEAX: = true" and "JoystickEnabled: = true"
In your \T34vsTiger\Scripts\GameSettings.script you can change those
two settings (use all lowercase) by replacing the "true" with false.
// EAX sound
final static boolean UseEAX = false;
// enable/disable joystick
final static boolean EnableJoystick = false;
This can save you from future issues. :salute:
ATB
ZW
OK,I have done that ZW.
I just installed the 2B mod on my working install and now the game crashes?
What order do I need to install them?
It seems I have forgotten everything just lately.
ZeeWolf
02-16-10, 04:38 PM
OK,I have done that ZW.
I just installed the 2B mod on my working install and now the game crashes?
What order do I need to install them?
Did you install the new video codex?
and make sure you reboot to clear the virtual memory.
This issue with crashing with 2b can be fixed by un-installing 2b and installing
v1 and then 2b ontop.
But before doing anything send me your execution.log again I can zero in on
your problem.
ZW
Yes,I installed the K-Lite codex pack.
I now have all the mods installed including the re-supply script files.
It runs great and now I can continue my career as a Tank Commander :salute:
ZeeWolf
02-16-10, 05:04 PM
Yes,I installed the K-Lite codex pack.
I now have all the mods installed including the re-supply script files.
It runs great and now I can continue my career as a Tank Commander :salute:
YOUR KILLING ME MAN! :har: :woot:
ZW
Chucky that,s wonderful news!You had me worried facing all the Bolshevik hordes all by myself in Kursk:shucks:
!Now you can pass the gin so we can all celebrate!
How's the new graphic card running? Happy with the change?
You know I think we should create a separate thread dedicated to all the problem related to installs, crashes, mods installs, fixes ect so in the future all of us and newcomers can easily access and read the past problens rather than flooding ZW with requests for help.I will gladly do it but only after my return from my undeserved holidays!I am leaving for 9 days tonight and will be back only on the 26th.Ill be missing you guys and tis forum but by Fuehrers Befehl( my wife) no computer, no tank game allowed during our vacations:wah:.
Bests
ZeeWolf
02-16-10, 10:30 PM
We're going to miss you frinik, but I hope you and your family have a great time.:yeah:
ZW
Likewise Zw and the others I am going to miss you:cry:
But Iī'll be lokĄoking forward to reading over a week worth of interesting threads and posts:up:
Bests to all and especially to you ZW our Zugfuehrer!
Have a great time Frinik.
PS I went with the lower spec ATI in the end.I don't fancy changing over again,that will lead to another 3 page topic of misery :oops:
Chucky.
Oh NO Chucky! I canīt believe it! Itīs akin to wanting a child for 20 years, getting pregnant and then once the baby is born giving him up for adoption!:06:
What are you going to do with your new Nvidia????
Oh well graphic cards are like girl friends, you look for something new with better - hem - graphics and then once you find onethey give you nothing but trouble and you realise after a couple of weeks you were better off with the old one....
ZW, Off topic, Friedrich Wilhelm and I were exchanging views and commiserating about your new AI... Hem itīs too good now those wingmen of your kill everything in sight and leave us table scraps. Hem perhaps after Kursk someething can be done to make them less aggressive, buoyant, gung ho, rambo whatever the adequate word is to describe their mad rush to glory...I have to confess to shooting my wingmen and trying to disable-cripple them at the beginning of a game to prevent them from rampaging and killing everything in sight.I am risking court martial but hey
I want glory too:arrgh!:
Which shows the old Chinese curse is trueĻBe careful what you wish for because you máy get it:88)
Cheers
from an unemployed Tiger commander soon to be on furlough and recovering from his wounded pride....
Frinik,the Nvidia is in my spare system,which I intend to sell.With the funds I will buy the fastest ATI card known to man.
Just watch that Tiger shift then :salute:
Oh NO Chucky! I canīt believe it! Itīs akin to wanting a child for 20 years, getting pregnant and then once the baby is born giving him up for adoption!:06:
What are you going to do with your new Nvidia????
Oh well graphic cards are like girl friends, you look for something new with better - hem - graphics and then once you find onethey give you nothing but trouble and you realise after a couple of weeks you were better off with the old one....
ZW, Off topic, Friedrich Wilhelm and I were exchanging views and commiserating about your new AI... Hem itīs too good now those wingmen of your kill everything in sight and leave us table scraps. Hem perhaps after Kursk someething can be done to make them less aggressive, buoyant, gung ho, rambo whatever the adequate word is to describe their mad rush to glory...I have to confess to shooting my wingmen and trying to disable-cripple them at the beginning of a game to prevent them from rampaging and killing everything in sight.I am risking court martial but hey
I want glory too:arrgh!:
Which shows the old Chinese curse is trueĻBe careful what you wish for because you máy get it:88)
Cheers
from an unemployed Tiger commander soon to be on furlough and recovering from his wounded pride....
Concur on this one, its a race to the finish to try and get some kills! Oh, what fun, I am ignoring, SH4, IL-2, and others just to hunt down T-34's, KV-1s, every evening. I think I have ran each mission about 10 times but it never gets old. Now I take horrendous risks and actually get killed on occasion.
ZeeWolf
02-17-10, 05:47 PM
This the KV85
http://www.tanksimzw.com/images/KV85_.jpg
This is the new KV1-s it will be at KursK :up:
http://www.tanksimzw.com/images/KV1s.jpg
ZW
Now that I have seen the pics of the opposition at Kursk I think we are going to need all those aggressive wingman and a large load of good old 'lady luck'.
Those are some nasty looking tanks there. They do not look happy!
Bring it!
ZeeWolf
02-18-10, 01:28 PM
Now that I have seen the pics of the opposition at Kursk I think we are going to need all those aggressive wingman and a large load of good old 'lady luck'.
Those are some nasty looking tanks there. They do not look happy!
Bring it!
Thanks Wilcke, I have more for you to about! :yep:
"It's no longer the tanks that bother me, it's the anti-tank guns!"
- Michael Wittmann said about the Soviet tanks on the Ost Front
This is a hint to whats to come :DL
ZW
Looking good ZeeWolf :up:
I am taking a break form my break just a few minutes to read all the posts.It's like my morning paper with a coffee.
For us TvsT is like a roller coaster we pay to be acred to death.Bring them on!
Hey Chucky I saw your post about that guys' pics with his high resolution screen and all you must be Nvidious....:D
Cheers
:haha:
Taking a break form my break just to read the latest posts.It's like reading my paper in the morning with my coffee a little pleasure of life!
Hey Chucky you must Nvidious of that guy's psecs and pics I saw on another post.
Cheers
Ok,just to keep Frinik happy,I kept the 280 GTX.
I will pop it into my system this week and check the frame rates in T34 vs Tiger.:rock:
I am cool with the idea Chucky but as long as you keep handy a ration of gin:woot:
I remember your last ordeal.Remember Man it's not the frame rates that make the game it how you drive your Tiger!:smug:
BTW the GTX offers 1 gig of graphic memory?And resolution of course is in the 1900 X 1440 range:cry:....Why am I asking this it's pure masochism.My solace is that with my ATI 3650 I'll be playing in slow motion without any stress whatsoever.Plus those T34 shells will be coming to me ever so slowly I'll be asleep by the time they hit my tank.:yawn:
Unfortunately my monitor is restricted to 1680 x1050 so no uber- screen res for me,yet.
I did run 3D Mark on both cards and the Nvidia smoked the ATI.
One thing I did notice.With the ATI my CPU test results were almost halved.
I'm no technical guru but I assume that the ATI must place more demand on the CPU? I don't know,maybe it was a glitch.I only ran the test once for each card.
Anyway,later today I will swap cards over.Gin at the ready :woot:
Chucky from what I read of graphic card comparisons on the net it's pretty much a toss-up between Nvidia and ATI Radeon.They tend to follow each others innovation and everytime one comes up with something nw the other follows a few days or weeks later with something similar.
I think in order to compare you have to compare similar gcs with similar specs.Your ATI may be less performing because it is aore ancine t designs.These days one year is like what 10 years used to be in the old days in terms of technological progress.This year's model is next year'
s antique!Just an example, I have a SONY VAIO 2003 laptop which at the time was considered one the best and most advanced notebook( not to mention expensive).Well it's got barely 1.6 gig processor, 256 mb RAM,40 gigs hardisk and a 32 mb graphic card.For the same price I paid it now I get at least a 2.0gb processor, 3 gb RAM, 320 gb hard disk and a 512 mb graphic card.It's amazing how fast electronics change!
One thing I like abotu Nvidia which ATI should emulate is the graphic card control pannel that comes with it and allows you to tailor the settings according to your tastes and your pcs /laptop's capacity.
Chucky, careful with the gin when you swap cards; the last thing you want is putting your credit card in your pc and your graphic card in your wallet....:88)
Cheers!
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