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oscar19681
02-10-10, 05:40 PM
With the preview version given to the german game magazine i was wonderering who would like neal to do a proper preview insted.
I would like _me_ to get a preview version to do a proper preview to be honest :sunny:
oscar19681
02-10-10, 05:44 PM
I would like _me_ to get a preview version to do a proper preview to be honest :sunny:
Oh how foolish of me to leave the poll option give Ichso a preview version insted! How stupid can i be? I must have smoked something funny. :haha:
SteamWake
02-10-10, 05:46 PM
I personally think that Neal is more than capable of doing a proper review.
After all he has decades of experience at it.
So why wouldent he be given an evaluation copy? :06::hmmm:
Makes you wonder... no?
FIREWALL
02-10-10, 05:47 PM
Backup the truck !!!
You mean to tell us someone else besides SubSim (Neal) got a review copy first ?
Show us link ?
Backup the truck !!!
You mean to tell us someone else besides SubSim (Neal) got a review copy first ?
Show us link ?
Two places now IIRC.
The German mag and a short article from an English one.
oscar19681
02-10-10, 05:52 PM
Backup the truck !!!
You mean to tell us someone else besides SubSim (Neal) got a review copy first ?
Show us link ?
yes hard to believe no? When i first heard it i checked to see if i was still on the subsim forum.
So Ubi send ASAP to neal with priority air mail please! Or is there a reason for them not to?
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So Ubi send ASAP to neal with priority air mail please! Or is there a reason for them not to?
Of course there is! He is a subsiNNer!
:)
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FIREWALL
02-10-10, 06:02 PM
Do's UBISOFT HAVE NO SHAME AT ALL. :down:
Or is there a reason for them not to?
I imagine Ubisoft is reluctant to send a copy of a new "Action-Adventure"
game to a simulation review site.
Moreover, I imagine that Ubisoft have a (perhaps unwritten) agreement
with the current review copy holders that there will be no negative
content in the review.
Subsim's integrity would never bow down to such censorship.
oscar19681
02-10-10, 06:04 PM
Do's UBISOFT HAVE NO SHAME AT ALL. :down:
Actually they dont.
oscar19681
02-10-10, 06:05 PM
I imagine Ubisoft is reluctant to send a copy of a new "Action-Adventure"
game to a simulation review site.
Moreover, I imagine that Ubisoft have a (perhaps unwritten) agreement
with the current review copy holders that there will be no negative
content in the review.
Subsim's integrity would never bow down to such censorship.
Thats exactly my point.
To be fair, the gamestar is not only one of the worst but also one of the most popular gaming magazines in germany. So at least UBI sticks to the 'bring it to the masses' approach.
Do we really need a poll about everything?
oscar19681
02-10-10, 06:11 PM
To be fair, the gamestar is not only one of the worst but also one of the most popular gaming magazines in germany. So at least UBI sticks to the 'bring it to the masses' approach.
But you would consider the large sh-5 community one of the devs said was so large not so immported ? I mean they could have given the german gaming magazine AND neal both a copy.
oscar19681
02-10-10, 06:11 PM
Do we really need a poll about everything?
I cant help it i,m bored. And besides i wanted to make a poll where i know probably everybody votes on the same option.
Blood_splat
02-10-10, 06:15 PM
Do we really need a poll about everything?
Lets start a poll.:O:
Do we really need a poll about everything?
Let's make a poll to find out.
Lets start a poll.:O:
Doh, stole my comment.
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FIREWALL
02-10-10, 07:07 PM
Ubiwho.... Weren't they that game company that TOLD consumers how it was going to be whether they liked it or not ? :har:
THE_MASK
02-10-10, 07:27 PM
I am sure Neal will give us a review after he buys the game .
Task Force
02-10-10, 07:28 PM
WHATS SUBSIM!!! WHOS NEAL!!! and where the F**K are we...:o
MercurySeven
02-10-10, 07:30 PM
Well, lets be hones: Neal and Subsim are quite different from any kind of game magazine. The version they tested at the magazine was an early (!!) version that was limited to the single missions (so no new campaign yet) and was (as far as I know) far from being ready to ship. There were report of missing content, crashes, bugs ... you name it.
So while a magazine (possibly bound by contract) is used to get a first glance at games in such a state and will report on what the game is shaping up to be, a subsimmer like Neal would probably start testing the thing thoroughly and report all kinds of stuff that is missing or that does not work correctly. There would be a long, long checklist of "is feature X in the game?" and for each one missing there would be outrage in the radio room.
Meanwhile, in Romania the devs are working on the game and (hopefully) fixing bugs and tweaking gameplay aspects. So while a magazine is just looking for a few screenshots and the general INTENTION of the game someone like neal is looking for the actual GAMEPLAY which is still being finalized.
So, yeah, I understand why some magazines got an early copy some time ago and Neal didn't. And no, I do not want Neal to get THAT copy. Because that copy is unfinished crap! Once the thing has hit gold status and is going into production I would want Neal to have one copy in his mailbox, fresh from the factory, and I will certainly read his review once he had time to test the game and write about it.
All has its time.
Webster
02-10-10, 07:34 PM
I am sure Neal will give us a review after he buys the game .
he has posted this several times that a full and complete review of the game will be posted as soon as he can get his hands on it
Now we need a poll to speculate what Neal will write in his review :D
Onkel Neal
02-10-10, 08:33 PM
Well, lets be hones: Neal and Subsim are quite different from any kind of game magazine. The version they tested at the magazine was an early (!!) version that was limited to the single missions (so no new campaign yet) and was (as far as I know) far from being ready to ship. There were report of missing content, crashes, bugs ... you name it.
So while a magazine (possibly bound by contract) is used to get a first glance at games in such a state and will report on what the game is shaping up to be, a subsimmer like Neal would probably start testing the thing thoroughly and report all kinds of stuff that is missing or that does not work correctly. There would be a long, long checklist of "is feature X in the game?" and for each one missing there would be outrage in the radio room.
Meanwhile, in Romania the devs are working on the game and (hopefully) fixing bugs and tweaking gameplay aspects. So while a magazine is just looking for a few screenshots and the general INTENTION of the game someone like Neal is looking for the actual GAMEPLAY which is still being finalized.
So, yeah, I understand why some magazines got an early copy some time ago and Neal didn't. And no, I do not want Neal to get THAT copy. Because that copy is unfinished crap! Once the thing has hit gold status and is going into production I would want Neal to have one copy in his mailbox, fresh from the factory, and I will certainly read his review once he had time to test the game and write about it.
All has its time.
Here's the thing about PREVIEWS and REVIEWS.
Previews are done well before the game is finished, well before it is polished, with many features missing or incomplete. Alpha copies have bugs, glitches, and lots of them, but that is to be expected, the game is not finished. It would be pretty lame to report on bugs and missing features when work is still underway--that's like tasting a dish before it is cooked. The preview's role is to report on the overall direction of the game and give people an update and a feel for the game (with the ever-present disclaimer that some features may or may not make it into the final game).
When I get an alpha or beta version of a sub game to preview, as I did with SH2, Sub Command, Dangerous Waters, Silent Hunter III, etc., I usually do provide an extensive play test report to the developer, to give them a sense of how the game plays from someone who has not been working on it 10 hours a day, for months. But I don't publish this report, that's not my job, and it would not be fair to the developer. It doesn't help the players, either. You need someone telling you the game does this and this and this wrong when it will likely be fixed in the final version? I'm not alone in handling previews this way, most professional journalists do the same thing.
Previews are very useful in shaping a game, too. When I reported on SH3 at E3, and mentioned the campaign was branching, not dynamic, the players respectfully but persistantly complained and beseeched Ubisoft to include a dynamic campaign... and the dev team sold the idea. It delayed the game 8 months or so, but the result was worth it, SH3 was the greatest subsim ever at the time and was critically acclaimed--I gave it a 100 score, and so did several other top notch reviewers (http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/silent-hunter-iii/602818p1.html) (100 does not mean perfect, ok? It just means the game was damn good and maxed out the Onkel Neal-o-meter :shucks:).
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Now, on the subject of reviews: Reviews are based on the gold master, the game you will get in the store. When I do a review, I will cover every aspect of the game I can. I will include bugs and glitches, and I keep them in perspective. If a bug does not affect gameplay (SH3 water spray on the UZO before the patch), I don't beat the game up over it. If the bug does affect the gameplay (SH4 torpedo speed bug), then it gets a factual mention. I try to resist the impulse to be snotty about; that's a tone too common in reviews. I can tell you a game has a lot of crappy features without acting out like a 3rd grade bully.
And I have no problem admitting I have a bias--I do support sub simulations, I want there to be a viable market for them. I want the developers and publishers to profit from their sales, I want them to keep making them...and I certainly want the players to get their money's worth, I don't believe the players should be cheated or scammed. I would like to see as much realism and historical accuracy as many of you, and if the ublisher feels he needs to arcade the game up to reach a wiser market, I can live with that as long as the game is scalable and includes realism options that will make the game a simulation acceptable to us.
So, when my review of SH5 comes out, which will probably be after the game is out, I will tell you everything about the game, good and bad, and how I feel about it. If the developers assure me that they will continue working on the game with patches, that does factor into my thinking. I don't play the fanboy and I don't let people pressure me into proving that or jumping on a bandwagon of whining or hating. If someone calls me a fanboy, I will not beat a game up to prove I am not. I am an optimist and a positive person but I will say what I think, and for those who know me well, intergrity is everything.
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Now, if you'll excuse me, I have work to do (http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/sh5/previe4.jpg)
Now there is some good news at last.
I am not buying the game until they pull there head out of their butts - however I am understandably curious about the game....
That being said how embarrassing would it be that they leave the online crap out and we still hold ill feelings toward it.
This especially true of UBI will listen to feedback and make changes (good luck wtih that though).
FIREWALL
02-10-10, 08:52 PM
:up: Neal :up:
Hrm...
How many doors in the Houston area do I need to knock on before I find the right one?
Sailor Steve
02-10-10, 09:50 PM
Hrm...
How many doors in the Houston area do I need to knock on before I find the right one?
All of them. Neal's not in Houston.
:D
Looks like it's time to close the poll. Congrats, Onkel.:salute:
All of them. Neal's not in Houston.
Dang! Although, if it were me with that disc, I'd be hiding out, too.
Looks like it's time to close the poll. Congrats, Onkel.:salute:
Seconded!
onelifecrisis
02-10-10, 10:17 PM
Ooops... I voted a silly option before reading the thread. Preview copies have been given but not to Neal? Outrageous. I think this whole forum should be in outrage. Oh wait... it already is. Well it should be in Outrage Level 2 then.
Adriatico
02-10-10, 10:58 PM
I personally think that Neal is more than capable of doing a proper review.
The last thing that Ubi wants is proper review by Neal...
It will be - listen evreybody what our game is / instead of - please see&try the game
Till they prepare and lubricate "nice reviews" at PC IGN and Gamespot...
Guys...Check the bottom of Neal's post.
LiveGoat
02-10-10, 11:20 PM
:)
Will we get a ruling before she goes gold?
Get agressive, Neal! First drink is on BdU!
Guys...Check the bottom of Neal's post.
onelifecrisis
02-10-10, 11:24 PM
Guys...Check the bottom of Neal's post.
:o
Kewl! :rock:
HundertzehnGustav
02-11-10, 12:59 AM
WAY TO GO!
i hope you do not show up for the next 14 days because you think that SHV is the shizzle just as much as SHIII was.
:rock:
Oooo Neal! :yeah:
How will I sleep tonight knowing you're probably playin SH5?!
d@rk51d3
02-11-10, 01:50 AM
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have work to do (http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/sh5/previe4.jpg)
:D
:yeah:
Kaleun_Endrass
02-11-10, 02:31 AM
Oooo Neal! :yeah:
How will I sleep tonight knowing you're probably playin SH5?!
Me too... Can you imagine the smile on my face as I read "Onkel Neal" in the screenshot
http://www.chaoszone.de/blog/media/blogs/webnews/scary-smile-2.jpg
danlisa
02-11-10, 03:32 AM
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have work to do (http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/sh5/previe4.jpg)
:rotfl2: That's why you needed to update your GFX card drivers! LOL
PL_Andrev
02-11-10, 04:04 AM
Stupid poll.
Developer don't want. We wish we want...
Too many criticism on this forum, maybe too early (before game was released). But it's not our fault that the SH5 screenshots have so many bugs...
Stupid poll.
Developer don't want. We wish we want...
Too many criticism on this forum, maybe too early (before game was released). But it's not our fault that the SH5 screenshots have so many bugs...
No need to get upset, Neal got his preview copy now.
Maybe just because of this "stupid" poll.
Mud
martes86
02-11-10, 05:23 AM
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have work to do (http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/sh5/previe4.jpg)
You're the man, you know that, right? :salute:
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have work to do (http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/sh5/previe4.jpg)Just remember to turn on your network sniffer software!:woot: I wanna know at least how much data the OSP is going to suck up.
PL_Andrev
02-11-10, 06:12 AM
Hey Neal!
Please don't forget about:
The Enigma
02-11-10, 06:34 AM
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have work to do (http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/sh5/previe4.jpg)
Good post.
Can I help you with your work :D
kapitan_zur_see
02-11-10, 10:43 AM
Errr... are you absolutely sure it's not a photoshop joke from Neal? lol
If Neal really has a preview copy, now i'm starting to get relieved...
UBI probably wouldn't send one to someone who really knows what he's talking about with sub sims if the game was meant to have become über casual or was of poor standards and kiddy. Risks of bashing and complaining, for good reasons, are otherwise way too high on this site. This, from clever people you won't buy their "that's great!" attitude with a few tricks.
It might be a clue that they're confident enough in their game to face the risk of generating a disaster response from the forum here.
Sailor Steve
02-11-10, 10:48 AM
Oooo Neal! :yeah:
How will I sleep tonight knowing you're probably playin SH5?!
I'm sure you'll think of something...
mookiemookie
02-11-10, 10:59 AM
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have work to do (http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/sh5/previe4.jpg)
So if I should happen to be in Pearland, and my car should happen to break down in front of your house, you'd let me in to use the SH5....I mean, phone, right? :03::arrgh!:
FIREWALL
02-11-10, 11:02 AM
So if I should happen to be in Pearland, and my car should happen to break down in front of your house, you'd let me in to use the SH5....I mean, phone, right? :03::arrgh!:
:har:
So if I should happen to be in Pearland, and my car should happen to break down in front of your house, you'd let me in to use the SH5....I mean, phone, right? :03::arrgh!:
Hey, any chance you can give me a ride in that faulty car of yours? :D
Sailor Steve
02-11-10, 11:04 AM
And Jesse answers the door with a shotgun in his hands...:dead:
The real question here is if Neal got a preview or review copy of the game.
Based on this:
So, when my review of SH5 comes out, which will probably be after the game is out...
And
Please keep in mind that at this point only PREVIEW versions are out.
and based on the fact that Neal felt the need to make that post, with the clear distinction between preview and review, and the fact the the link is to a "previe4.jpg", I think we may be waiting a while for any real info from him.
Now, if Neal is doing a preview, and not a review, I think the best thing that could happen would be for him to file his playtest report, and then we hear about a delay, so some things can be fixed. Or they can have a patch ready on release day.
elanaiba
02-11-10, 11:07 AM
LOL @ the image of Jesse guarding Neal's door.
kapitan_zur_see
02-11-10, 11:29 AM
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5245/nealprev.jpg
mookiemookie
02-11-10, 11:34 AM
LOL @ the image of Jesse guarding Neal's door.
Did you remember to include the minefield and turrets with Neal's copy?
Onkel Neal
02-11-10, 11:43 AM
Errr... are you absolutely sure it's not a photoshop joke from Neal? lol
If Neal really has a preview copy, now i'm starting to get relieved...
UBI probably wouldn't send one to someone who really knows what he's talking about with sub sims if the game was meant to have become über casual or was of poor standards and kiddy. Risks of bashing and complaining, for good reasons, are otherwise way too high on this site. This, from clever people you won't buy their "that's great!" attitude with a few tricks.
It might be a clue that they're confident enough in their game to face the risk of generating a disaster response from the forum here.
Very sure (http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/sh5/previe8.jpg):shucks:
Actually, you may want to hold on to your anxiety. As you know, they stalled on send us a copy.... until the generic gamer magazines could theirs into print first....
The real question here is if Neal got a preview or review copy of the game.
Based on this:
And
and based on the fact that Neal felt the need to make that post, with the clear distinction between preview and review, and the fact the the link is to a "previe4.jpg", I think we may be waiting a while for any real info from him.
Now, if Neal is doing a preview, and not a review, I think the best thing that could happen would be for him to file his playtest report, and then we hear about a delay, so some things can be fixed. Or they can have a patch ready on release day.
Yeah, it does not take long to do a preview...I'm just not sure it's worth the effort, the game will be out on 3 weeks. I will give the game a good testing this weekend, and get back with some preview details. I will also test the Uplay stuff. Just to be clear, I have an early version of the game, so yes, there are some bugs and glitches. Not much different than the early beta I got of SH3, it had bugs too. That's why they keep working on the game and don't put the beta up for sale :) Mainly, I have to spend some time with the game, with an open mind, and give it a chance to prove itself. Then a preview.
kapitan_zur_see
02-11-10, 11:50 AM
Very sure (http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/sh5/previe8.jpg):shucks:
Enjoy then ;)
Don't forget to eat or sleep :up:
Onkel Neal
02-11-10, 11:55 AM
Also, please don't expect a walkthrough of the campaign. I can tell Alex & co. put a lot of time into the RPG flow of the player's campaign and I think it would be much more enjoyable for the player to experience the exact events as they happen in the game, not in an article full of spoliers.
AVGWarhawk
02-11-10, 11:56 AM
Could not agree more! :up:
Adriatico
02-11-10, 12:23 PM
Yeah, it does not take long to do a preview...I'm just not sure it's worth the effort, the game will be out on 3 weeks. I will give the game a good testing this weekend, and get back with some preview details.
Don't know your timing and neighbourhood... but in a given conditions would be more usefull to test it on various internet connections... dial up modem, cable up to 1M/s and modern line... even if it takes few more days.
I am out of it... but there are so many people wondering how would it perform on their "internet", so your genuine run/save/load test results could be "bestseller" in a last week of February.
Also, please don't expect a walkthrough of the campaign. I can tell Alex & co. put a lot of time into the RPG flow of the player's campaign and I think it would be much more enjoyable for the player to experience the exact events as they happen in the game, not in an article full of spoliers.
I would like to know if the campaign "storyline" is branched or in anyway scripted.
martes86
02-11-10, 02:27 PM
Yeah, it does not take long to do a preview...I'm just not sure it's worth the effort, the game will be out on 3 weeks.
Hey, if you're not sure, I am. Don't hesitate to send me a copy! :D
FIREWALL
02-11-10, 02:38 PM
Don't know your timing and neighbourhood... but in a given conditions would be more usefull to test it on various internet connections... dial up modem, cable up to 1M/s and modern line... even if it takes few more days.
I am out of it... but there are so many people wondering how would it perform on their "internet", so your genuine run/save/load test results could be "bestseller" in a last week of February.
My guess is that a Preview copy doesn't have to be connected to the internet to play.
HundertzehnGustav
02-11-10, 02:40 PM
My guess is that a Preview copy doesn't have to be connected to the internet to play.
and how bad of a Joke is that...:timeout:
Hartmann
02-11-10, 03:09 PM
I imagine Ubisoft is reluctant to send a copy of a new "Action-Adventure"
game to a simulation review site.
Moreover, I imagine that Ubisoft have a (perhaps unwritten) agreement
with the current review copy holders that there will be no negative
content in the review.
Subsim's integrity would never bow down to such censorship.
Don´t worry , soon or late subsim users would get a copy ( purchasing the game) and write free reviews of the game .
but ubi could delay the bad press in the market until the first copies reach the market
capthelm
02-11-10, 04:04 PM
Very sure (http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/sh5/previe8.jpg):shucks:
Actually, you may want to hold on to your anxiety. As you know, they stalled on send us a copy.... until the generic gamer magazines could theirs into print first....
Yeah, it does not take long to do a preview...I'm just not sure it's worth the effort, the game will be out on 3 weeks. I will give the game a good testing this weekend, and get back with some preview details. I will also test the Uplay stuff. Just to be clear, I have an early version of the game, so yes, there are some bugs and glitches. Not much different than the early beta I got of SH3, it had bugs too. That's why they keep working on the game and don't put the beta up for sale :) Mainly, I have to spend some time with the game, with an open mind, and give it a chance to prove itself. Then a preview.
give us some general screenies plz...the now weather settings etc. snow rain sun
Onkel Neal
02-11-10, 04:09 PM
give us some general screenies plz...the now weather settings etc. snow rain sun
If I do, will you promise not to draw arrows pointing out the raindrops dripping at the wrong angle? :03:
conus00
02-11-10, 04:09 PM
My guess would be that Neal, by accepting the copy, also accepted terms regarding what he can and what he cannot post (picturewise).
But I might be wrong...
Onkel Neal
02-11-10, 04:13 PM
You guessed wrong :)
Arclight
02-11-10, 04:19 PM
Oh, options screen screenie would be great. :yep:
Really curious about the realism options, bet I'm not the only one either. :hmmm:
No red arrows, promise. :lol:
Ships-R-Us
02-11-10, 04:22 PM
Neal says he will give the game a good try out this weekend.....If it were me with that thing, I'd be leaving work sick and rippin' 'er open now and gettin' it done. I guess Neal was a proper boy as a child and did not take a sneak peak at any gifts under the tree before xmas.
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No red arrows, promise. :lol:
He'll use blue ones! :D
mookiemookie
02-11-10, 04:26 PM
Oh, options screen screenie would be great. :yep:
Really curious about the realism options, bet I'm not the only one either. :hmmm:
No red arrows, promise. :lol:
Yes, I would love to see realism options and the manual TDC if they have it. If not, an explanation on how the fire control system works.
capthelm
02-11-10, 04:52 PM
ok neal get the screenshots going we are all yerning to see hear....:salute:
kapitan_zur_see
02-11-10, 04:54 PM
Well, you can't really ask for something thorough from a preview copy, i guess.
I'd be rather more than happy with a quick reply from neal regarding things we've been worried about than can be tested very quickly and answered without intensive explanations. You know, in the meantime of a more thorough preview, just a simple sort of Q&A from Neal without those stupid UBI marketing biases we had! such has rough seas yes or no (and compared to SH3-4), doubts about Manual TDC just clarified (for exemple: it is like SH3/better/worst etc.), crew animations (lively or instead "looping forever and few movements" and etc. and not those "can my captain sit in his bunks" stupid questions at last! ;)
That sort of thing you can play test in a matter of minutes but that can relieve a hell lot
Jimbuna
02-12-10, 12:34 PM
I am an optimist and a positive person but I will say what I think, and for those who know me well, intergrity is everything.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have work to do (http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/sh5/previe4.jpg)
Rgr that mate....now back to work on the game http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif
Webster
02-12-10, 02:35 PM
i just cannot understand what possible purpose there is in putting out a preview copy that is different from the actual game unless the differences are CLEARLY explained in detail. otherwise you have no basis to judge what you are seeing.
i can only see two possible motives in doing this and both are deceptive.
1 to fool people and trick them into thinking the DRM works different then it really does to "defraud" them into buying something they dont want or dont understand what it is they are committing to.
or
2 maybe they are hoping to "accidentally" have a workaround for DRM leaked to save the company from near collapse if sh5 fails if the projected sales seam to be as bad as they are thought to be.
Heretic
02-12-10, 02:47 PM
I haven't seen anything that indicated that the differences in the preview copy was related to DRM, but was unfinished content. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was stated somewhere that the DRM was the same as what would be in release.
Lanzfeld
02-12-10, 03:00 PM
Neal,
I bought a 65 inch plasma for myself with a bluray player and rented one of my all time favorite movies. NOW I remember where that quote in your sig came from!:yeah:
Webster
02-12-10, 03:05 PM
I haven't seen anything that indicated that the differences in the preview copy was related to DRM, but was unfinished content. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it was stated somewhere that the DRM was the same as what would be in release.
UBI has stated over and over and over again the game WILL pause when the internet connection is lost and only resume when its restored yet the preview copy seams to run perfectly fine without the internet connection so this is a big unexplained difference and the whole premis of UBI's DRM/OSP as stated by them is that it "has to" be connected to the internet
Heretic
02-12-10, 03:12 PM
"Yes, it made no difference. And I disconnected the coax cable from the modem (and my daughter started yelling at me from the living room, "Daaaad! I'm DC (disconnected? Thay have slang for everything these days.)). As far as I can tell, I have a regular copy of the game with the DRM. When the game started the first time, I had to log on to Ubisoft. Since then I have not had to log on, but a game launcher always comes up preceeding the game. If I discover I have a non-DRM version, I will let you all know. I don't see why they would send me a non-DRM version, though. "
Maybe they changed it. Maybe the PR people had it wrong. Maybe Neal wasn't disconnected long enough. Who knows. For obvious reasons (ie legal), deliberate deception is unlikely the reason.
on a lighter note, my mum would love a copy, she thinks the captain is very handsome and has a sexy voice.:yep:
SteamWake
02-12-10, 03:38 PM
UBI has stated over and over and over again the game WILL pause when the internet connection is lost and only resume when its restored yet the preview copy seams to run perfectly fine without the internet connection so this is a big unexplained difference and the whole premis of UBI's DRM/OSP as stated by them is that it "has to" be connected to the internet
How do you know they havent set up a temporary server just for the preview copys?
Webster
02-12-10, 03:43 PM
How do you know they havent set up a temporary server just for the preview copys?
"Yes, it made no difference. And I disconnected the coax cable from the modem (and my daughter started yelling at me from the living room, "Daaaad! I'm DC (disconnected? Thay have slang for everything these days.)). As far as I can tell, I have a regular copy of the game with the DRM. When the game started the first time, I had to log on to Ubisoft. Since then I have not had to log on, but a game launcher always comes up preceeding the game. If I discover I have a non-DRM version, I will let you all know. I don't see why they would send me a non-DRM version, though. "
no matter what the server that is used the pause cannot work unless its handled from your computers side because it has to be disconnected to be activated. servers therefore dont have ant bearing on this function.
Jimbuna
02-12-10, 03:56 PM
How do you know they havent set up a temporary server just for the preview copys?
It is possible that Neal has a beta copy that whilst being more or less fully functional was devoid of completed DRM functions. :hmmm:
Onkel Neal
02-12-10, 05:12 PM
Neal,
I bought a 65 inch plasma for myself with a bluray player and rented one of my all time favorite movies. NOW I remember where that quote in your sig came from!:yeah:
You better believe it. :shucks:
http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/master_commander_poster.jpg
Ships-R-Us
02-12-10, 05:29 PM
I recognize Neal in the picture with the Mayflower in the background. I didn't realize until now that Neal was from Massachusetts.
You better believe it. :shucks:
http://www.subsim.com/2010_02/master_commander_poster.jpg
HundertzehnGustav
02-13-10, 02:38 AM
WOW LOL
aint that a great picture right there?
:yeah:
difool2
02-13-10, 02:09 PM
Neal is Russell Crowe's long lost twin? :ahoy:
cappy70
02-13-10, 10:35 PM
My post got "delete".
I thought that details was ok.
Beleive me I know my NDS, but I thought that since the prev. statement kind of "releived" my knowledge that I already knew and I balanced my statement in such a manner that I thought it was ok for me to say it.
Background: I have done QA testing for some time and still is; meaning that through NDS that get faxed to me and I have to sign, ( no "public" betas here), meaning: If I talk, I don't get "kicked" out of a Forum, I get a lawsuit.
"This post is public to see"
Regards
Cappy70
8 people said "Who is Neal?":haha::rotfl2::har:
Tomi_099
02-19-10, 09:34 AM
I would be interested stormi wether , thunder, and snow, as the behavior of the dynamics is
At the large swells.
Or is it all any more??:hmmm:
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