Awesome in its awesomeness

[cherbert]

From what I have seen so far Silent Hunter 5 looks incredible.

All this talk of how Silent Hunter 5 is dumbed down and is an Arcade game is just pure conjecture. Nobody knows yet!!!

Red pointers etc.. will be able to be switch off as they have been in every SH since 3 and I'm sure many other realism settings will remain that were there in SH3 and 4.

Moan about DRM but get a grip people - I'm sick to death of reading about people posting remarks about the game's simulation qualities vs arcade when they have zero facts either way on the matter. And personally I think the concerns are unfounded. I think when this game comes out it will turn out to be SH3 and so much more. Ok , the campaign ends in 1943 - this is clearly because they want to release addons. And even if they don't it WILL be modded.

I am SO looking forward to this game. Being able to run around inside the sub from compartment to compartment - running around the Sub Pen while docked! - The incredible looking graphics we have seen thus far - The incredible potential for modding! I'm sick of hearing people analysing which way a shadow is pointing.

Oh and personally I think the new interface looks superb and seems a welcome breath of fresh air compared to the clunky interfaces present in SH3 and 4.

You have never had it so good - the most good looking sub game ever and many are refusing to buy it or simply spending their days posting videos and images poking fun at game.

Only a month to go - cannot wait!

Everyone else who is also excited for this release please feel welcome toadd your support to the game and its developers here.

[Galanti]

Oh and personally I think the new interface looks superb and seems a welcome breath of fresh air compared to the clunky interfaces present in SH3 and 4.

You have never had it so good - the most good looking sub game ever and many are refusing to buy it or simply spending their days posting videos and images poking fun at game.

Well, to each their own, but personally I thought one of the overriding aims of this franchise was to provide an immersive experience - the interface I've seen so far doesn't make me feel like an sitting in a U-boat in 1941, it makes me feel like I'm Georgie LaForge staring at an LCARS console on the bridge of the USS Enterprise.

That part is an arseload of fail in my opinion, but modders may save it.

There are subtle hints the game is dumbed down - looking at one video I noticed your own boats speed (in the digital speedometer, yargh) shoot from 10 knots to 14 in about a third of a second.

Could be difficulty setting, but previous SH installments didn't changed things like accelaration rates between difficulty levels.

[Sailor Steve]

A lot of the negativity comes from the fact that they haven't said much yet, and by this late date they should be bragging about it. That alone has people worried.

I've made no secret of the fact that what Mihai has said about moddability has me very excited. If we can work with most anything in the game, the almost anything is possible. I have some minor worries, but I think that at this point the future looks bright.

[mookiemookie]

A lot of the negativity comes from the fact that they haven't said much yet, and by this late date they should be bragging about it. That alone has people worried.

I've made no secret of the fact that what Mihai has said about moddability has me very excited. If we can work with most anything in the game, the almost anything is possible. I have some minor worries, but I think that at this point the future looks bright.

I agree. We asked for a lot, and teh devs had to compromise on some things (the 1943 end, for one). But I think they're very cognizant of the fact that we have a great resource with our modders. Hopefully the game gives them the platform to do awesome things.

I can't get too worried about a lot of the "out of the box" stuff that's easily modded (crew responses, menu verbage, etc). Someone's going to inevitably come along and change it anyways, so what's the big deal?

[trenken]

Wow, a positive thread? Well I share the TCs feeling, but it wont be long before the TC is flamed for liking the game and this turns into another DRM bitch fest.

[TH0R]

Wow, a positive thread? Well I share the TCs feeling, but it wont be long before the TC is flamed for liking the game and this turns into another DRM bitch fest.

Sad but true...

[mookiemookie]

Nobody made it an issue or mentioned it until you did.

[Rip]

Wow, a positive thread? Well I share the TCs feeling, but it wont be long before the TC is flamed for liking the game and this turns into another DRM bitch fest.


and you combat this how? By bringing up the #&%@!$%^#& DRM.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1926079

[fromhell]

i think the game looks very good and i cant wait to get it loaded.
drm, oh well nothing is perfect.
a year or so from now it will be modded past stock, and hopefully 39 to 45:yeah:

[mookiemookie]

and you combat this how? By bringing up the #&%@!$%^#& DRM.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1926079

Aaaaahahhaah that was great! :rotfl2:

[trenken]

Nobody made it an issue or mentioned it until you did.

Well isnt that what happens to every thread? There's noone here keeping control of this place, telling them to vent in a specific thread. So it was going to happen.

I took the reverse approach. By mentioning that, hoping that people would try to avoid bringing it up. And seeing as how long this thread has existed without people complaining about it, it may have actually worked.

[Highbury]

I agree. We asked for a lot, and teh devs had to compromise on some things (the 1943 end, for one). But I think they're very cognizant of the fact that we have a great resource with our modders. Hopefully the game gives them the platform to do awesome things.

I can't get too worried about a lot of the "out of the box" stuff that's easily modded (crew responses, menu verbage, etc). Someone's going to inevitably come along and change it anyways, so what's the big deal?

:up:

Pretty much my hope as well. If it is as moddable as they say, maybe they thought.. "those guys at Subsim just make it into whatever they want anyways.. so let's make it more mass-market appealing.. " :D

[Ships-R-Us]

I am a newbie here, and have enjoyed all the postings reference SH5. It makes for good entertainment to hear the whole gammit of opinions, suggestions & complaints. I think all aspects of SH5 have been addressed in these forums. "Is it a Sim, a game, will it have?, I don't like it, I like it, is it immersive, the damage factor, the morale factor, and a million other aspects of "a production" that has never been released yet, have been praised and criticized.

We all know the same truth, but I remind you that the devs at Ubisoft know clearly what they are doing. They are professionals with a lot of experience. SH5 IS NOT A NEW CREATION BUT THE CONTINUED EVOLUTION OF A GREAT PRODUCT. They have heard and listened to the cries in the wilderness, and have been enlightened by some and offended by others. They will put out a damn good production to be enjoyed by all.

Some posts remind me of the enthusiam and anticipation we have all experienced as a child waiting impatiently for some "event" to occur.

I KNOW FOR ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY: When SH5 is released it will be like XMAS for the modders. We all will be greatful for the gift we receive from Ubisoft and will get lost in the immersion of the whole thing.

It has been entertaing to watch the group here in all its "awe" anticipating........Ships...

[flag4]

From what I have seen so far Silent Hunter 5 looks incredible.

All this talk of how Silent Hunter 5 is dumbed down and is an Arcade game is just pure conjecture. Nobody knows yet!!!

Red pointers etc.. will be able to be switch off as they have been in every SH since 3 and I'm sure many other realism settings will remain that were there in SH3 and 4.

Moan about DRM but get a grip people - I'm sick to death of reading about people posting remarks about the game's simulation qualities vs arcade when they have zero facts either way on the matter. And personally I think the concerns are unfounded. I think when this game comes out it will turn out to be SH3 and so much more. Ok , the campaign ends in 1943 - this is clearly because they want to release addons. And even if they don't it WILL be modded.

I am SO looking forward to this game. Being able to run around inside the sub from compartment to compartment - running around the Sub Pen while docked! - The incredible looking graphics we have seen thus far - The incredible potential for modding! I'm sick of hearing people analysing which way a shadow is pointing.

Oh and personally I think the new interface looks superb and seems a welcome breath of fresh air compared to the clunky interfaces present in SH3 and 4.

You have never had it so good - the most good looking sub game ever and many are refusing to buy it or simply spending their days posting videos and images poking fun at game.

Only a month to go - cannot wait!

Everyone else who is also excited for this release please feel welcome toadd your support to the game and its developers here.


it is very good to read an enthusiastic and excited post for sh5 - it has gotten such a thumping, my dissapointment has been registered too about the brutish looking crew - but your post gives it all a lift. and yes, it does look beautifull and i hope what ever issues may trouble it are worked out.

thanks for the post and i hope your dreams come true:yeah:

[flag4]

and you combat this how? By bringing up the #&%@!$%^#& DRM.

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1926079

i want the troll as my fwend, i think he could do wonders here, on subsim...:haha:

[Tarnsman]

I think it looks awsome too and really looking forward to SH5. Funny how the interface gets so much flack, but its 100X better than the whak interface of SH4. 10,000 years from now, man will study the SH4 interface and conclude it had nothing to do with the SH4 and was actually a psy ops experiment on human tolerance for frustration.

[Steeltrap]

Wow, a positive thread? Well I share the TCs feeling, but it wont be long before the TC is flamed for liking the game and this turns into another DRM bitch fest.

Your complaints about the fact that everyone doesn't behave as YOU think they 'should ' would be vaguely credible if you were to display the behaviour you seem to be demanding.

There's noone here keeping control of this place, telling them to vent in a specific thread..

And now you're having a shot at the moderators, too. Excellent.

[Florent]

I agree, this game looks incredible:yeah:I played submarines sims since silent service (Amstrad 6128 in 1986-87) and saw the improvements during 20 years and Silent Hunter V is very promising.
English is not my native language, but contrary to numerous people, i have been able to read that the game will be for many people, beginners or arcade to expert mode moreover most of the team of SH3 is still there thus i'm not afraid.
What is boring is the number of people here just to attack Ubi, destroy something just not released. Wait and see.

[sav112]

After reading from the many post on the threads in here from credible members that know what there talking about and are active members unlike myself. I find it hard to get excited about a game that looks like firstly there is mistake all over the place, has limited content compared to the previous versions.

Yes it looks very nice, but then you look again and you see shadows missing etc and in today’s games that’s sloppy. The limited Video releases tells its own story and that there scared stiff and not proud of there work.

When I first learnt SH5 was on the cards I thought great it will be the game I wished for in SH3 my last sub purchase, everything has moved on so much with Computer hardware. But I’m disappointed at what I’ve seen so far and I was even going to bring my new purchase of a new Rig to run this forward as at present I have a five year old system.

Well done in getting excited about a game that really has nothing good to say about itself so far.
And I tip my cap to those who I regard on here that fight to enlighten us and encourage us not to accept sloppy, lazy, rushed game releases. Fan boys add nothing.

[HundertzehnGustav]

People judge by what they are shown.
and what they are shown is apprearently not much, less than they expected, and reason for a lot of negativity.

Let them vent.
Let me vent.

Moan about DRM but get a grip people - I'm sick to deathme being a part of tha "moaning" "people"... dont tell me wether i have to get a grip or not. I could "possibly" thake that personal.

Thanks.

*edit*
That does not mean i am putting the programers and SHV creators work down in any way. I applaude them for their continued efforts!

[JU_88]

Well IMHO the missing years and lack of Boat types is really quite forgivable.
It was only expected because of what was present in SH3, but we have to apprieciate that they are quite deiffernt games. The SH5 campaign is far more detailed that SH3 so it takes longer to script, the U-boat models plus full interior is also far more detailed than SH3, so again it takes much longer to model and implement.
Sometimes less is more.

The DRM is really the main problem here.
I will still buy the game and try to live with it (call me a scab if you want), but I have no argument with those who will not, I dont view those with no (or weak) internet connection as 'whiners' they have every right to be angry.

The the part that upsets me most about the DRM? It will likely probably be cracked soon enought anyway, in which case the pirates will be mearly 'delayed' while legit customers will suffer or go without and the Publisher loses out on substancial sales from both potential customers AND pirates alike.
Look what happened to Spore (and that was over an install limit)

I would assume that Ubi would need to bail on the DRM as soon as is it cracked by pirates, failing to do so would be suicide.

[Zugfuhrer]

Sh5 looks like a great sim

[Méo]

credible members that know what there talking about

They know what they are talking about? ...we shall see.

IMHO, the most credible members here did not say a word, or very few.

[Laffertytig]

i echo the OP's comments. its gettin really old everyone rippin SH5 to shreds callin it an arcade game etc.

the DRM issue is an entirely different subject but lets just wait to see what its like before rippin it a new one:up:

[sav112]

They know what they are talking about? ...we shall see.

IMHO, the most credible members here did not say a word, or very few.

:yawn:

Don’t see that at all, in fact it’s the senior Members that have raised there fears over the many posts but then I don’t know how much you read on here…… I have no experience with DRM so wont comment apart from that sounds poor. But when a member posts a remark then backs it up with picture evidence then I take it on board and rightly so.

I’m I thinking twice about buying this – Yes. But I’m not a big game buyer as I’ve said last game was FM2008 and before that BF2. But I do Buy a game if I think it will be quality and give me hours of entertainment.

[JU_88]

:yawn:

Don’t see that at all, in fact it’s the senior Members that have raised there fears over the many posts but then I don’t know how much you read on here…… I have no experience with DRM so wont comment apart from that sounds poor. But when a member posts a remark then backs it up with picture evidence then I take it on board and rightly so.

I’m I thinking twice about buying this – Yes. But I’m not a big game buyer as I’ve said last game was FM2008 and before that BF2. But I do Buy a game if I think it will be quality and give me hours of entertainment.

Personally I dont care what anyone says about the screenshots & videos, Senior member or not - it means nothing to me, they sill havent played the game and are just making observations (usually negative) that lead to assumptions.

I will play the game for myself and form my own opinion. I will listen to what others think about SHV as it can be intresting/funny/whatever -but I will not let it influence what ever I decide to do.

[piri_reis]

Nobody is telling you that you can't buy it. Buy all means go and get it the minute it hits the shelves.
People express their own opinions about what they see from screenshots/videos/interviews etc.
What a sensible man can see is, it looks no where close to awesome, but go ahead, dream on, I guess all shall be revealed in march :D

[JU_88]

Nobody is telling you that you can't buy it. Buy all means go and get it the minute it hits the shelves.
People express their own opinions about what they see from screenshots/videos/interviews etc.
What a sensible man can see is, it looks no where close to awesome, but go ahead, dream on, I guess all shall be revealed in march :D

Again, that last part is YOUR opinon
Who are you to judge the sensiblities of others? and likewise who are they to judge yours?
I will decide how awesome it is for me when I play it. End of story.

[mookiemookie]

Again, that last part is YOUR opinon
Who are you to judge the sensiblities of others? and likewise who are we to judge yours?
I will decide how awesome it is for me when I play it. end of story.

Good post.

I've been noticing a real undertone of "if you don't share my opinion of the game you're crazy/stupid/etc." in the forum lately and I don't like it.

[urfisch]

...to me the game still looks like a big, big building site...there will be so much to do, until we get a state of "acceptable so far".

and since we seem not to get any further information on the tools, there still remains the fear of a totally failed game to me. cause one thing is for sure: the game at the state of release, will not be acceptable. and if theres no possibility to change the content, the game will be a big shoot in the foot.

nothing else.

[sav112]

Well I’ll actually use the views and offical reviews I read to form an informed judgment. Bit stupid not too really use such a great source of information. Why spend money on a half built game possibly when the sheep can do it for me.

When I bought my new cars I used reviews and personal opinions, same when I bought my new digital camera there. Views of others on here is great to point out things I miss.

Anyone fool can waste money on a game, any fool can post on a thread but you can sort out the wheat from the chaff most of the time

[JU_88]

Well I’ll actually use the views and offical reviews I read to form an informed judgment. Bit stupid not too really use such a great source of information. Why spend money on a half built game possibly when the sheep can do it for me.

When I bought my new cars I used reviews and personal opinions, same when I bought my new digital camera there. Views of others on here is great to point out things I miss.

Anyone fool can waste money on a game, any fool can post on a thread but you can sort out the wheat from the chaff most of the time

So... before you can buy any game, you wait for the 'foolish sheep' to rush out and buy it, but then you put your contempt to one side,
And suddenly respect their feedback and opinions enough to decide weather its worth buying for yourself? :doh:
if the sheep say its good - you buy it, if they say it blows - you dont? Doesn't that just make you a sheep following sheep?

Another way to look at it is this;
At least the 'sheep' formed his own opinion by actually playing the game, rather than just following the opinions of others....

At the end of the day someone has to bite the bullet and be the first to buy a game.
Why do you need to put them down, when you say they are actually doing you a favour?

[Webster]

Well isnt that what happens to every thread? There's noone here keeping control of this place, telling them to vent in a specific thread. So it was going to happen.

I took the reverse approach. By mentioning that, hoping that people would try to avoid bringing it up. And seeing as how long this thread has existed without people complaining about it, it may have actually worked.


trenken we are as a group trying to "move on" beyond the DRM talk and talk about the game now and this is something you have said you want to happen too so if there isnt any DRM talk please dont be the first to bring it up or we can never move past it.

thank you for understanding

[sav112]

I’m not putting anyone down for buying a game, I just like to be well informed before I spend time on a game. If the game gets reviewed poorly, information comes to light that things are missing or done badly for example your campaign stopping 1943 or that you need an online Connection to play in this games case.:down:

I really hate the fact that some of the game company’s take advantage of the fact people will buy it no question. The half beta games you get now are a joke, some patched and fixed six months after release.

I also hate these Fan boys that defend games to the hilt,:rotfl2: especially when the game company is making an epic go at failing the very community that has kept them afloat.

If there is a Demo all the better so you can try the game out. I can even add the thoughts of the community on it to add to build a picture as to if I’d like it or its worth buys. One things for sure I’ll certainly not be pre-ordering as its not my style.


“Baah” as a sheep would call.

[martes86]

All this talk of how Silent Hunter 5 is dumbed down and is an Arcade game is just pure conjecture. Nobody knows yet!!!

I totally agree with that point. I've been saying that for some days now, apparently, those of us wanting to buy it to be able to make an informed decision for ourselves, are a bunch of fools. Whatever, I think that makes us more of a bunch of smart guys, than fools. At least we'll know what we're talking about.
Though I don't agree with you in the point that the GUI looks cool. That's one of the few facts we can see in the screencaps we've been presented so far, and, while I understand it's the choice the Devs must have had to take in order to have an usable minimalistic interface, I quite don't find it the most appropiate choice. Will be modded for sure after release though, so doesn't really bother me.


I will play the game for myself and form my own opinion. I will listen to what others think about SHV as it can be intresting/funny/whatever -but I will not let it influence what ever I decide to do.

Welcome to the club. :up:


What a sensible man can see is, it looks no where close to awesome, but go ahead, dream on, I guess all shall be revealed in march :D

A really sensible man would think that the best way to judge would be to test the product. If we had all the information of the world about its functionality, its features, well we could throw in some informed opinions. But we've only seen graphics. Nowhere near close to functional details and the realism environment (the IA sees your closer or further, what happens when an enemy bullet hits you, what happens to ships when they're hit by a torpedo, what happens when you take manual control of the TVR -TDC for everyone else-, what happens if you're surfaced on daylight at 1943, etc...), just all the eyecandy, which we're quite familiar with right now.
And, it's not like the most expensive game you'll find, so, one buys it, and if it's no good, then, ok, some money spent, but at least you have the right to say if it's pure crap or not.

Cheers :rock:

[piri_reis]

A really sensible man would think that the best way to judge would be to test the product. If we had all the information of the world about its functionality, its features, well we could throw in some informed opinions. But we've only seen graphics.

Then lets all stop conversing in this forum because none of us has played the game yet, so no one can have an opinion. :doh:
Look, what I said was, a sensible man won't run around yelling "oh this game is awesome, no wait it's awesome in awesomeness!!!"
Now that is fanboy talk, check all the threads even people most opposed to DRM has made some amount of praise to the game. There are points where the devs have been very creative and bold, and there are trivial errors, and gamey looking things..
By all means make your own decision, if you are definitely buying it why not preorder it, or have you done that already?

[JU_88]

Then lets all stop conversing in this forum because none of us has played the game yet, so no one can have an opinion. :doh:

LOL no one is talking about it being wrong to express opinions before the game is out, just that seems silly too decide weather to buy or skip the game based on those opinions.

Look, what I said was, a sensible man won't run around yelling "oh this game is awesome, no wait it's awesome in awesomeness!!!"
Now that is fanboy talk,

Oh sure - how dare he show enthusiam for the game, that is a cardinal sin around here, brand him as a 'fanboy'. and beat him with negativity sticks until he learns that its 'cool to hate'

BTW you misquoted him - he said "From what I have seen so far Silent Hunter 5 looks incredible" not that 'it is'.

Anyway Im buying SH5 based on this.

Sh3 was not perfect but it was a good game
Sh4 was not perfect but it was a good game
Sh5....

You do the math.

[IanC]

Awesome in its awesomeness!!1!!

[martes86]

Then lets all stop conversing in this forum because none of us has played the game yet, so no one can have an opinion. :doh:
Look, what I said was, a sensible man won't run around yelling "oh this game is awesome, no wait it's awesome in awesomeness!!!"
Now that is fanboy talk, check all the threads even people most opposed to DRM has made some amount of praise to the game. There are points where the devs have been very creative and bold, and there are trivial errors, and gamey looking things..
By all means make your own decision, if you are definitely buying it why not preorder it, or have you done that already?

Well, I never said people should just shut up. I just think that before rushing to negative conclussions and bothering the Devs about it, we should wait to test the game, or wait till we get much more in-depth information. Of course, people can do what they please, I'm not here to tell people what should or should not do.

Preordering, it's not something I like to do in general. I prefer to go to the stores in my city (to support local distribution), or to get games through Steam once they're out. It's not like I'll get it sooner (not much though) if I preorder it.

Cheers :rock:

[Méo]

I've been noticing a real undertone of "if you don't share my opinion of the game you're crazy/stupid/etc." in the forum lately and I don't like it.

if the sheep say its good - you buy it, if they say it blows - you dont? Doesn't that just make you a sheep following sheep?

Why do you need to put them down, when you say they are actually doing you a favour?

Oh sure - how dare he show enthusiam for the game, that is a cardinal sin around here, brand him as a 'fanboy'. and beat him with negativity sticks until he learns that its 'cool to hate'

Anyway Im buying SH5 based on this.

Sh3 was not perfect but it was a good game
Sh4 was not perfect but it was a good game
Sh5....

You do the math.

Excellent points! gentlemen. :up:

[HundertzehnGustav]

Holy in its Holyness.:sunny:
But wheres the DRM Talk?:timeout:
You guys are so, like... uncool!:rock:

Its gonna be a damn expensive game if i have to get ADSL. FCUK:damn::damn::damn:

[Brag]

@ Cherbert,

Besides not sounding sincere, You haven't seen this awesome in its awsomness thingamajig either. The title of this thread is misleading.

Moo :har::har::har:

[longam]

@ Cherbert,

Besides not sounding sincere, You haven't seen this awesome in its awsomness thingamajig either. The title of this thread is misleading.

Moo :har::har::har:

Are you like 16?

[sav112]

@ Cherbert,

Besides not sounding sincere, You haven't seen this awesome in its awsomness thingamajig either. The title of this thread is misleading.

Moo :har::har::har:


Well said that man! :yeah:


In my View SH3 was not perfect and rather poor at times. I had boats floating in the air, somersaulting and sinking then re-appearing. Boats hitting each other at alarming rates in convoys and the list would go on and fill pages.

But after I installed the many fantastic Mods that gave the game better everything I realised just how poor SH was out of the box. I can live with the historical inaccuracies, the design inaccuracies like is “that ladder wrong” but I got bored stiff of the Ai in the end or lack of it but appreciated what the modding community had done. They had turned a poor game into a playable and enjoyable game at times.

Never bought Sh4 as it just looked more of the same and from what I read in the many reviews and forums I was right in my opinion not to buy it.

SH5 looks promising in parts, dismal in others so far. There is that little real game footage released for anyone to form a really good informed opinion in my own mind. And the real test is when people do get there hands on it and batter it senseless.

Yes you can pee your pants with excitement if that’s your thing and spew drivel till release on what little is known and I’ll laughingly read this entertainment as some of the posts on here are worth a laugh.

[cappy70]

I've already pre-ordered the game since waaay back.:salute:

:rock::D

[Jimbuna]

All will be revealed in March http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[TarJak]

All will be revealed in March TM http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gifYou forgot to add your trade mark.:O:

[Jimbuna]

You forgot to add your trade mark.:O:

I can sense a plan forming :hmmm:

[Lt commander lare]

i do too its a huge wolfpack forming in the north atlantic

lt commander lare

[Brag]

i do too its a huge wolfpack forming in the north atlantic

lt commander lare


Largest wolpack in world history, all mooing for blood :D

Moo! :salute::salute::salute:

[tonschk]

From what I have seen so far Silent Hunter 5 looks incredible.

All this talk of how Silent Hunter 5 is dumbed down and is an Arcade game is just pure conjecture. Nobody knows yet!!!

Red pointers etc.. will be able to be switch off as they have been in every SH since 3 and I'm sure many other realism settings will remain that were there in SH3 and 4.

Moan about DRM but get a grip people - I'm sick to death of reading about people posting remarks about the game's simulation qualities vs arcade when they have zero facts either way on the matter. And personally I think the concerns are unfounded. I think when this game comes out it will turn out to be SH3 and so much more. Ok , the campaign ends in 1943 - this is clearly because they want to release addons. And even if they don't it WILL be modded.

I am SO looking forward to this game. Being able to run around inside the sub from compartment to compartment - running around the Sub Pen while docked! - The incredible looking graphics we have seen thus far - The incredible potential for modding! I'm sick of hearing people analysing which way a shadow is pointing.

Oh and personally I think the new interface looks superb and seems a welcome breath of fresh air compared to the clunky interfaces present in SH3 and 4.

You have never had it so good - the most good looking sub game ever and many are refusing to buy it or simply spending their days posting videos and images poking fun at game.

Only a month to go - cannot wait!

Everyone else who is also excited for this release please feel welcome toadd your support to the game and its developers here.

I need to BUY the :salute:SILENT HUNTER 5 :salute: as soon as POSSIBLE :yeah:


.

[Brag]

I'll buy, too. If they get rid of DRM/OSP :yep::yep:

I have an upgraded computer on order.

Moo