Ubi-TV 02.10.

[Dellwig]

New in game footage:

http://ubitv.de.ubi.com/index.php?vid=951

Edit: The SH V footage comes after Assasins Creed 2 (~5 mins)

Edit2: KapitanLeutnant put it on youtube (Thank you!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBzmTgBwesQ

[SteamWake]

(edit)

Nevermind I suppose there is something about SH5 in there but its lagging like ... well badly.

Sound Guy ???!!! :D

Cook soup level 2 ??? ;)

[Kapitanleutnant]

It's fascinating to finally see that you can walk around the dock in first person, but too little too late for this consumer.

Another misleading thread :nope:In what way? This is new footage as far as I can see.

edit: Just watched it all. The in-boat stuff doesn't look good. There are missing animations and clipping everywhere. The sonar-guy went from sitting to standing with no animation, and when standing he was clipping through the chair that he had been sat on before. This is really lazy work.

edit 2: Also note how the sonar guy is performing an animationg of turning the wheel of the hydrohpone, despite being sat quite far away from it. I also like how the commander was talking to the damn cook while the boat was being pinged. Like he doesn't have anything better to do.

[SteamWake]

I posted that after sitting through 5 minutes of assasins creed :-? oops...

Your right about the 'snap to standing animations'.

On the other hand assasins creed looks pretty good is it going to have osp as well?

[dangrey]

Since SH3 I've dreamed to be able to walk around the sub, so I'm looking very forward to SH5, but I dont(!) wan't a white cross or that things/ men gets highlighted ...

[ReFaN]

Cant wait, i hope Silent Hunter 5 is going to be a blast ;)

[MercurySeven]

He says that Silent Hunter has a large fan community and that he knows that he has to watch what he says. ... A little late for that, isn't it? :nope:

Nah, at least some gameplay footage and some insight in crew management (soup as well! :shifty:) and the attack periscope. Could be fun ... once they patch the shackles out of course.

On the other hand assasins creed looks pretty good is it going to have osp as well?

Yepp.

[capthelm]

loved the uboat pen footage:yeah:

[Letum]

Is it me, or are the crew tiny?

[TH0R]

loved the uboat pen footage:yeah:

That probably is the best part of the video...

Thanks for posting.

[onelifecrisis]

Is it me, or are the crew tiny?

No the crew are normal size, but the guy playing the game rolled a High Elf at the start. :rotfl2:

[mookiemookie]

Riches to the man who creates me a "real dials and gauges" mod! Yeesh, I really hate that simplified GUI.

[Letum]

No the crew are normal size, but the guy playing the game rolled a High Elf at the start. :rotfl2:

Haha!

Seriously tho, I have never been in a VIIC, but I don't think the ceiling
should be twice the height of the crew and a bit more.

[GREY WOLF 3]

walking around the sub:down: you will do that when you load the game. for the first time.

Then you spend the rest of the time staring at a nav map waiting for a contact when you find one your looking through a periscope that is how people play the game.

[Boris]

Looks pretty awesome to be. Like SH3 with an RPG element. This is "arcade" for some, but I like playing RPGs.

[Nisgeis]

Yeah that looks great, I can't wait... 29 days to go!

You know, people banged on about Das Boot so much, the devs have given you Das Boot the game. The scene in the sub pen shows that. I like the idea of promoting your crew by walking up to them, in SH4, they were just blobs to me, now I can get a connection with them.

Can't wait!

[pythos]

If they get rid of that internet only thing I will be sold.

[PL_Andrev]

No dynamic shadows at people in submarine base. OK. I can live with that.
But what about TDC ??? This is manual targeting???
:o

It is the worst SH5 movie I have seen. I dont understand - this movie was to encourage or discourage people from buying this game? The whole UBI marketing department should be fired.
:nope:

Soundman level 2 ?
Please, tell me that it means "obermatrose" - german marine second degree...
:damn:

Only two good info from game: there are dynamic shadows on deck gun and good bouncing of ships.

I don't understand German language - some sounds about update?

[Sgtmonkeynads]

Looks pretty awesome to be. Like SH3 with an RPG element. This is "arcade" for some, but I like playing RPGs.

+1 Will I be called a sell out and ostracized from subsim if I do end up buying this ?
With all the nay saying I've been doing lately, I feel dirty, for the thought of getting it, but on the other hand...it does look to have potential after a few years of modding.

[mookiemookie]

+1 Will I be called a sell out and ostracized from subsim if I do end up buying this ?
With all the nay saying I've been doing lately, I feel dirty, for the thought of getting it, but on the other hand...it does look to have potential after a few years of modding.

Screw 'em if they don't like the fact that you're buying it. I'll still be there day one. I too see the potential here.

[onelifecrisis]

Haha!

Seriously tho, I have never been in a VIIC, but I don't think the ceiling
should be twice the height of the crew and a bit more.

I don't know but I do agree they look small, somehow out of scale.

And what's with that camp queen pose that the radio guy does? :doh:

[The Enigma]

Some captures:

http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Eanjns/subsim/periscope.png

http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Eanjns/subsim/periscope2.png





http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Eanjns/subsim/dstroyer_snk.png

http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Eanjns/subsim/radioroom.png

[onelifecrisis]

I don't know if you guys noticed, but the map contacts were wobbling about. ;)

[Rosencrantz]

Letum wrote:

Haha!

Seriously tho, I have never been in a VIIC, but I don't think the ceiling
should be twice the height of the crew and a bit more.


Having been in VIIC/41 I can tell you, you are definitely right. However, noticed the problem already when the very first trailer came, so really not surprised. Thought they'll fix that, but... :shifty:

However, heard deutsch on board, so that's a good thing at least. :rock:


-RC-

[onelifecrisis]

Keep in mind that the average height of a European caucasian male in the 1940's was around 5'6.

[Oberon]

Oooh, The Settlers VII, I haven't played that game since III! :rock:

[oscar19681]

(edit)

Nevermind I suppose there is something about SH5 in there but its lagging like ... well badly.

Sound Guy ???!!! :D

Cook soup level 2 ??? ;)

Yes by the time i can watch the whole video i can start playing sh-5 .

Could someone put this on youtube?

[The Enigma]

Perhaps you missed my post.
I've made some captures:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1258392&postcount=22

[oscar19681]

Perhaps you missed my post.
I've made some captures:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1258392&postcount=22

Yes i know but i,m dying to see moving images

[PL_Andrev]

Did you see that?

I really really hope that is VERY VERY OLD game footage...

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8952/shadowc.jpg

[onelifecrisis]

Did you see that?

I really really hope that is VERY VERY OLD game footage...

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8952/shadowc.jpg

That's not the sun you plonker, it's the reflection of the camera light.

[oscar19681]

Did you see that?

I really really hope that is VERY VERY OLD game footage...

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8952/shadowc.jpg

It seems you have downloaded the footage. Could you please put it up somewhere? The ubi site is just WAY to slow and i have broadband!

[Kapitanleutnant]

It seems you have downloaded the footage. Could you please put it up somewhere? The ubi site is just WAY to slow and i have broadband!
He probably just took a screenshot.

[Webster]

i really do like the way ships look to move with the water like they are actually floating on its surface.

but im equally sad that ships still have a bad habbit to stand on end to sink, but maybe that will be addressed in a patch for the game

[Lanzfeld]

What a FAIL! These guys should be ashamed to call this their work.:down::nope::nope::nope::nope::nope::nope::no pe:

[oscar19681]

He probably just took a screenshot.

Well does anyone here have the whole video? Please i would love to see this before i turn 85 years old. The last video from ubi tv it was the exact same problem. Does anyone else some serious lag with it?

[Webster]

What a FAIL! These guys should be ashamed to call this their work.:down::nope::nope::nope::nope::nope::nope::no pe:

shouldnt you at least explain why you feel this way, i mean its nice to here why each person has a reason to say this and what reason is given

[Kapitanleutnant]

Well does anyone here have the whole video? Please i would love to see this before i turn 85 years old. The last video from ubi tv it was the exact same problem. Does anyone else some serious lag with it?

I can upload it but it'll probably take 10 minutes.

[oscar19681]

I can upload it but it'll probably take 10 minutes.

Hmmm what should i do wait for 10 minutes or wait 6 hours to watch it. no serious please do if you have the time,

[Kapitanleutnant]

Uploading it now. The quality isn't all that good, but you get what you pay for.:D

[Galanti]

shouldnt you at least explain why you feel this way, i mean its nice to here why each person has a reason to say this and what reason is given

I'll take a shot at it, maybe he's talking about the ridiculous interface, which looks like it was ripped out of Battlestations Midway.

Arghhhh, I know I'm starting to obssess about it, but I just don't get it. At all. What was wrong with the authentic looking knobs and guages?

[oscar19681]

Uploading it now. The quality isn't all that good, but you get what you pay for.:D

Thanks now i must befriend you.

[oscar19681]

I'll take a shot at it, maybe he's talking about the ridiculous interface, which looks like it was ripped out of Battlestations Midway.

Arghhhh, I know I'm starting to obssess about it, but I just don't get it. At all. What was wrong with the authentic looking knobs and guages?

Yes i dont understand this either. I can hardly imagine that the casual player would have a hard time understanding dials and guages. However i feel that this is one of the things that gets modded first after release.

[Seaman_Hornsby]

I've been intrigued by SHV since it was announced, and the vid only fuels that. Yes, the soundman alignment is a slip-up, but is there any indication how old the video is? Perhaps this is something that has been addressed since it was originally taken.

On the plus side, ship mechanics look impressive, with the destroyer and corvette bobbing believably in the swell. Hopefully this applies to one's sub as well. Shadows look good. Moving around the sub pen to handle port business looks very interesting too.

On the down side, I find the interface a bit strange. The clean "HUD" seems nice, since it's out of the way, but the periscope screen is quite bland. Also, the FPS crosshair is distracting and would seem to be unnecessary, since we're not running around port with a Luger looking to plug enemy soldiers. (Right?) But these things are probably easily modded, so they may not be much concern in the long run.

Now if we could just do something about that OSP..... :arrgh!:

[Kapitanleutnant]

Video is here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBzmTgBwesQ). Youtube hasn't finished processing it yet so the quality is really terrible. If it's unwatchable just give it another ten minutes to clear up.

[oscar19681]

Video is here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBzmTgBwesQ). Youtube hasn't finished processing it yet so the quality is really terrible. If it's unwatchable just give it another ten minutes to clear up.

Will do her kaleun. Thanks alot.

[Sailor Steve]

:damn:

Library has an older version of Flash Player, and won't let me install a newer one. Can't even watch it!:damn:

[Kapitanleutnant]

Hey Steve - I posted a link to a Youtube version just up there^.

e: **** yes finally got my wild night in Bangkok.

[Sailor Steve]

I know - that's the one it won't let me play!:damn:

[oscar19681]

I know - that's the one it won't let me play!:damn:

Wont let me play either. It just never stops loading.

[Kapitanleutnant]

It's playing fine for me now. I can't think what could be wrong, it's finished processing I think...

edit: Yep. Finished processing now. If you can watch any Youtube videos you should be able to watch this one.

[GoldenRivet]

first words out of my mouth... WOW

looks great and im excited about the new level of crew interaction.

i would imagine that any of the dialogue box text could be modded to say something besides the lvl 2 garbage.

im very much looking forward to seeing more.

[oscar19681]

ok seen it great stuff but ubi made the movie way to short. I would like a gameplay movie with one of the devs showing the good stuff such as.

* are there other u-boats in the pens/harbour or are we yet agian the only u-boat in base.
* are we the only boat in the game that doesnt have crew walking/ standing on the deck when leaving/ entering port
* Hardcore tdc
* much more intereur footage , maybe like a tour in das boot from back to front.
* underwater footage
* biggest storm footage
* submerge footage from inside the control room (maybe crash-dive)
* Maybe some AI u-boat footage
* more crew voices (allthough they seem much more improved)
* how does the player get from the pens onto the u-boat.
* what happens when the player stands next to the deckgun for example , can you see yourself in external view.
Feel free to add stuff you would like to see.

[Sailor Steve]

If you can watch any Youtube videos you should be able to watch this one.
Nope. :nope:

Not your fault. Not YouTube's fault. Stupid University Library's fault for not having the latest stuff.:cry:

[TigerOmega]

Looks nice but I'm still not buying it with DRM.

[Dellwig]

Thank you for uploading, Kapitanleutnant. Video works well for me.
I've put your link on the starting post.

[Dowly]

Hmm... I wonder if more stuff can be modded to the base. Let's assume there is only the pen atm. I hope it would be possible for modders to add their own 3D interiors and make bar for example. Also, transferring people and making custom dialogue for them would be nice, so you could go to some other Kaleu sitting in the bar and have a chat with him like, for example, SH3Cmdr does, but now in 3D. Would be nice. :yep:

[Webster]

dowly, i think your first mod will be a DD waitress for that bar :o

(DD does not mean destroyer in this case)

[Brag]

How do you watch the thing? All I get is a security warning

[The Enigma]

I just followed the link and watched the vid.

[Apos]

Video is working fine @ firefox.

btw why thas video is in german? We live in free Europe :P :haha:

[theluckyone17]

I've got my gripes against the gameplay shown in the video... otherwise, it looks like good stuff. I've got faith in the modding community to resolve those gripes.

Now all Ubisoft has to do is remove OSP, and they'll get my dollar. How 'bout it, Ubi? :D

[Nicolas]

The exterior cam, the sea etc looks so good.

1st must have mod: remove 'halo' from crew :x

[Sulikate]

Well, that's the first time that after seeing some SH5 footage I don't feel like kicking someone in the rudder or throwing my cat from the bridge. Phew.

[Sailor Steve]

Well, I got to watch it by switching to Firefox.

Animated the water is even worse. Looks good, but also looks like a force 6 gale is blowing through the bunker.

At 5:30 there is a shot of two guys in front of the monitor, and here it looks like the periscope view is much bigger.

I noticed that the periscope-view map is scaleable. I assume it can be scaled right out of existence.

And just like the screenshot I see it confirmed that the Crew Designations wander from German to English and back again. Sound Guy, Funker, Gunner.

Still, overall it looks very good.

[Carotio]

EDIT:
Sorry, I think I got it wrong, so this message is sadly not true, as explained further below.....


Did any of you listen to what he said at the end or did you just look???

He said that all of you awaiting SH5 have to be more patient cause it will not appear untill the 4th quarter of 2010..... :o:o:o

So did the interviewer get it wrong or have they actually decided to delay the game to build more in... or even remove something.. . :hmmm:

[mookiemookie]

Did any of you listen to what he said at the end or did you just look???

He said that all of you awaiting SH5 have to be more patient cause it will not appear untill the 4th quarter of 2010..... :o:o:o

So did the interviewer get it wrong or have they actually decided to delay the game to build more in... or even remove something... :hmmm:

I don't speak German, so you tell me. Did he really say that?

[Letum]

He said that all of you awaiting SH5 have to be more patient cause it will not appear untill the 4th quarter of 2010.....


Please let this be true!

[Carotio]

Actually, I have to correct myself... :oops:

In the meantime, while subsim forum was down yet again - I had just posted the post above, when the forum wouldn't update, so I checked listening to the video yet again, and I think I got it wrong, sorry...

He said "vierten Drittel" that is the 4th "third" as in the 3rd month. I just thought I heard something else, or perhaps I wanted to hear something else, so I got so excited that I just had to post it, and then when I wanted to edit my post.... BOOM off the forum went again. :damn:

[Seeadler]

The presenter said at the beginning, that he knows that Silent Hunter has a very large community, and therefore he has to be careful what he says:haha:

[martes86]

The part in the pen is very nice indeed. :DL

[Letum]

The presenter said at the beginning, that he knows that Silent Hunter has a very large community, and therefore he has to be careful what he says:haha:


Haha!
Some one must have briefed him.
They are terrified of us. :arrgh!:

Perhaps they we will round up members of ubisoft and make them walk
the plank if they continue the gaffs...


...not a bad idea now I think of it.

[Brag]

I liked the graffics and people movements in Assassin's Creed :D

The SH 5 bit was not very well made or edited. Though inside the pen was pretty good. Pericope view--stinks.

Screen on lower left corner is return to SH1. Hope you can turn it off.
The whole experince was interesting. BUT the big question is:

Will they get rid of that ********ng OSP/DRM?:damn:

My wallet stays shut until they do.

Moo, moo, moo

[Méo]

Its quite possible for the flags to fly in opposite directions...

I'm afraid there are gonna have a LOT of other issues...

All of you who wanted a rough sea footage, you've got it.. ..it's in the U-boat pen. :-?

Must be really annoying to cook in darkness..:-?

...and I didn't talk about the soundman. :down:

[Iron Budokan]

Moo.

[Iron Budokan]

Seriously, not just in the sub pen, but even outside. The physics of that water is all wrong.

But, I do concede, it looks real purty. Yep. Real purty.

[oscar19681]

Haha!
Some one must have briefed him.
They are terrified of us. :arrgh!:

Perhaps they we will round up members of ubisoft and make them walk
the plank if they continue the gaffs...


...not a bad idea now I think of it.

Walk the plank? Walk the plank?:stare: KEELHAUL THEM! MUHAHAHAHA! after all they are all ubisofties!

http://wordsmith.org/words/images/keelhaul_large.jpg

[Nicolas]

There is some kind of psicosis here. Start smiling, or take a couple of 'antidepression pills' because if the game releases without major issues and is moddable this will be really fun, the modders can't work with suchs long faces :shucks:

(moo)

[Méo]

if the game releases without major issues

We shall see.


Dont you think this:There is some kind of psicosis here. Start smiling, or take a couple of 'antidepression pills'

...fits better in an DRM thread.

[JackAubrey]

I'm afraid there are gonna have a LOT of other issues...
One of the first things they should fix is, that the Ships crash into each other like in the Video. In the Scene where the Torpedo is fired, it looks like the AI is a bit messed up.

I also don't like it that the Cook adresses the Kaleun with "Hallo, großer Junge" (Hello, Big Boy). Well, maybe I missed the part of the Crew Bios where the Kaleun and the Cook are described as the best of friends. Normally, you would only greet a good friend "Hello, Big Boy" over here.

Well, unless you're a Hooker, then this would probably be your standard greeting for all men. :D

[frau kaleun]

I also don't like it that the Cook adresses the Kaleun with "Hallo, großer Junge" (Hello, Big Boy).

:rotfl2:

OMG I knew I didn't imagine that! And now it's confirmed by a German-speaker.

I really thought I had to be misreading the text or missing something in the translation. Sadly, no.

[trenken]

Looks great, cant wait. :woot:

[Nicolas]

...fits better in an DRM thread.

But... it's the feeling 90% of sh5 forum. ;)

[JackAubrey]

I really thought I had to be misreading the text or missing something in the translation. Sadly, no.
I know exactly what you mean. German is my native language but I also read the text twice.

So we have the Torpedoman who likes to stick his fist into things, a cook who talks like a hooker and a Bosun who'd rather be a Lumberjack.... err... Poet like his great Grandfather Heinrich Heine (who never had Children, btw.)

Either this is a WW2-Remake of "Queer as Folk" or it's a case of WUI (writing under influence).

Could somebody please explain all this to me? My hovercraft is full of eels.

[Webster]

someone has definately been spending way too many long nights working on this game.

if i see hanz in a speedo i want a refund :o

jk im not buying it with DRM anyway

[Fire]

Actually, I have to correct myself... :oops:

In the meantime, while subsim forum was down yet again - I had just posted the post above, when the forum wouldn't update, so I checked listening to the video yet again, and I think I got it wrong, sorry...

He said "vierten Drittel" that is the 4th "third" as in the 3rd month. I just thought I heard something else, or perhaps I wanted to hear something else, so I got so excited that I just had to post it, and then when I wanted to edit my post.... BOOM off the forum went again. :damn:

Exactly he says "am vierten dritten" wich means written in german date format 4.3.2010, in english March 4th 2010


Well, with every movie and picture I see from Sh5 I think "What have they done to this once great simulation"..... I'm feeling sad

[frau kaleun]

if i see hanz in a speedo i want a refund :o



:hmmm:

I'm afraid I'll have to defer my decision on this issue until I can examine the alleged offense from all the available angles.

[Brag]

Looks great, cant wait. :woot:

I was wondering when Trenken would reappear with his deep insights :D

[JackAubrey]

I was wondering when Trenken would reappear with his deep insights :D
He's the last true philosopher of our time... :D

[Highbury]

Well, besides all of the other stuff mentioned in this thread, did anyone notice that he was sitting at periscope depth, taking his sweet time to line up a shot on one of two DD's that were a cable length away and pinging him!!!??? I sure the hell hope that was on the lowest difficulty setting possible.

Pinging means hide, run if you can silently, however you do it, get away now! It does NOT and should NEVER mean pop up and have a peek for a shot!

[Méo]

Well, besides all of the other stuff mentioned in this thread, did anyone notice that he was sitting at periscope depth, taking his sweet time to line up a shot on one of two DD's that were a cable length away and pinging him!!!??? I sure the hell hope that was on the lowest difficulty setting possible.

Pinging means hide, run if you can silently, however you do it, get away now! It does NOT and should NEVER mean pop up and have a peek for a shot!

Yeah! quite embarassing...:-?

Why the hell did they show that?

To show people there was something worse than OSP. :hmmm:

[THE_MASK]

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/209/sh5copy.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/sh5copy.jpg/)
Now we just have to get her animated .

[rascal101]

That’s about the breadth of my observation of this otherwise fairly innocuous video, nothing new to see, no new opinions to be formed. It’s nice to see the nuts and bolts brigade arguing about angles of lighting or the size of the rivets or the correct shade of grey use on the hull ….etc

But for the rest of us there's little or nothing to excite any one with even the slightest interest in game-play, realistic portrayal of the period or historical accuracy - though admittedly lots to satisfy the more visually inclined

And - As usual - no public mention - or discussion of the DRM at least not in connection with the game- the single thing that’s liable to make or break this game as a commercial success. And as usual our Johnny on the spot, Mr. Microphone himself, despite his boyish charm and copious application of hair gel, he fails to mention it.

Does he ever ask any useful questions? Perhaps he's so generic the publishers wouldn’t want to trouble his pretty head with an idea or concept larger than his microphone.

RPG fans will love it, those with reasonably stable internet will probably be able to play it..... most of the time - As for those who've followed the series since the first, or those of us with a real interest in things submerged and Naval as usual it’s ‘Up Yo_ r's’ …..Perhaps I’m a little hasty lets just say - we'll have to wait and see.

One thing that always amazes me, Ubisoft are absolutely aware of SubSim and its members therein -

So why is it the one single thing that's missing, the big fat, steaming, sweating Elephant in the room here…..Why is it that not one person from SubSim has ever been given an opportunity to pose any questions, or make any comment on any of these videos - and all this despite SubSim being the single largest group of potential customers

It’s astounding
R



Well, besides all of the other stuff mentioned in this thread, did anyone notice that he was sitting at periscope depth, taking his sweet time to line up a shot on one of two DD's that were a cable length away and pinging him!!!??? I sure the hell hope that was on the lowest difficulty setting possible.

Pinging means hide, run if you can silently, however you do it, get away now! It does NOT and should NEVER mean pop up and have a peek for a shot!

[Webster]

So why is it the one single thing that's missing, the big fat, steaming, sweating Elephant in the room here…..Why is it that not one person from SubSim has ever been given an opportunity to pose any questions, or make any comment on any of these videos - and all this despite SubSim being the single largest group of potential customers

It’s astounding
R




dont forget neals exclusive interview, granted we didnt get any earth shattering new news but we did get "some" new information that nobody else was given

[GermanGS]

Hello Im New Here. However im not new to the series,
been playing the game since the 2nd, Im glad to see that SH series is still alive to see that UBI is actually trying to keep it going. I do understand the reasoning for giving a game a more RPG style, so it will be more acceptable to a general puplic who never even had a thought before of a submarine game before. But im afraid it is going to kill the series, Just like it seems to have happened with IL2 series and its not even on PC anymore.
On a sidenote i think that water looks a bit too fake i live right by the water and it don't behave such way. In the game the water seems a bit too light like it is not even being pulled by gravity.
PS; i hate this tought with this DRM idea, it seem that UBI is trying to do a good thing (slow Piracy:arrgh!:) in a realy bad way (Killing the ganre so there is nothing left to pirate :damn:). Why cant they have lets say 12 hours of Accumilated gameplay with this DRM BS, and then the dame is fully activated and no more need to stay online 24/7 think that many will do that, and get the game, and it still prevents Piracy. and this savegame with UBI will not be needed, on averege on terabite server costs 150 K USD, how many will they need if you have 10 mil people saving 2 savegames?

[karamazovnew]

But im afraid it is going to kill the series, Just like it seems to have happened with IL2 series and its not even on PC anymore.
IL-2 as not died. Birds of Prey is not the true successor of IL-2. The original team is working on Storm of War shich WILL blow your mind :yeah:. Due next year I think.

i hate this tought with this DRM idea, it seem that UBI is trying to do a good thing (slow Piracy:arrgh!:) in a realy bad way (Killing the ganre so there is nothing left to pirate :damn:).
Ubi will use OSP for all games, SH5 was just unlucky enough to be caught by it. For Ubi the stakes are much higher than this niche game. It's possible that they might be willing to sacrifice it just to see how much OSP will affect sales. That thought makes you wanna give a beer to the devs which have no blame in this :nope:

EDIT: Oh and welcome ;)

[Brag]

Right, Karamazov!
Ubi is using us and the (I can't remember name ) other game as testing ground. So we are no more than guinea pigs for them.

But if we stand firm, with our wallets tightly shut, they will reach the right conclusion.

Moo :salute:

[trenken]

Right, Karamazov!
Ubi is using us and the (I can't remember name ) other game as testing ground. So we are no more than guinea pigs for them.

But if we stand firm, with our wallets tightly shut, they will reach the right conclusion.

Moo :salute:

Do you ever stop complaining? Must be a real fun guy to hang out with. You're pissed at me because I have the internet and im excited for the game. Stop jumping on my case every time I post and leave me alone, go bother someone else with your misery.

If Im excited about the game, Im allowed to be. How old are you acting like this? Leave me be and let me be excited about the damn game. God this board sucks.

Are there any mods here to stop these guys from ruining everyone elses party. You guys are in every thread crying about DRM, thats fine, but leave the rest of us be now. Im getting excited for the game now, you dont have to comment to me every time I express it.

[karamazovnew]

Trenken, shouldn't you reply to this post?
I was wondering when Trenken would reappear with his deep insights :D

But I agree, I was also about to say "looks great, can't wait" without fear of someone jumping on me :shifty:. Let's stop isolating users, it's a poor show.

[urfisch]

"The developers where travelling through different countries, to study different uboats..." ???
There are only 2 uboat types left... a type IX and a type VIIC 41...

"Spend much time in recherche..."
What for? To have a nice simplified interface? Where´s the history data collected for sh3? Lost?...

:88)

[PhantomLord]

"The developers where travelling through different countries, to study different uboats..." ???
There are only 2 uboat types left... a type IX and a type VIIC 41...

"Spend much time in recherche..."
What for? To have a nice simplified interface? Where´s the history data collected for sh3? Lost?...

:88)

There´s also a type IIA left for study. The "Vesikko" near Helsinki :)

[Uber Gruber]

The UBI TV thing is the worst method i've encountered of playing a vid on the web....you just couldn't get it more wrong :nope:

[piri_reis]

UBI TV is located in the Ubi offices. They got all the access to the team/game engine and people to get permissions to record these.

Then what do they do, show us 3 minutes of cheesy gameplay, with lots of bugs apparent. It's incredible how unprofessional these guys are, I mean I have modded for other sims and did showcases to those, and never tried to show the shortcomings of the engine. It's like they especially show this stuff. :stare:

[Schultz]

Oboy oboy soup upgrade level 2 :haha:

[ERPP8]

On the other hand assasins creed looks pretty good is it going to have osp as well?
This is Subsim not assassinsim.

[martes86]

"The developers where travelling through different countries, to study different uboats..." ???
There are only 2 uboat types left... a type IX and a type VIIC 41...

You forget the Type II (Vessiko) in Finland, the resurfaced sunken sub (don't remember Type or ID, sorry), and the Type XXI in, was it Wilhelmshaven?. :salute:

[Letum]

You forget the Type II (Vessiko) in Finland, the resurfaced sunken sub (don't remember Type or ID, sorry), and the Type XXI in, was it Wilhelmshaven?. :salute:

There are several German mini-subs about as well and one manned torpedo.

[Schlabbo]

You forget the Type II (Vessiko) in Finland, the resurfaced sunken sub (don't remember Type or ID, sorry), and the Type XXI in, was it Wilhelmshaven?. :salute:

The XXI is in Bremerhaven to be precise. :ahoy:

[Sailor Steve]

Do you ever stop complaining? Must be a real fun guy to hang out with. You're pissed at me because I have the internet and im excited for the game. Stop jumping on my case every time I post and leave me alone, go bother someone else with your misery.

If Im excited about the game, Im allowed to be. How old are you acting like this? Leave me be and let me be excited about the damn game. God this board sucks.

Are there any mods here to stop these guys from ruining everyone elses party. You guys are in every thread crying about DRM, thats fine, but leave the rest of us be now. Im getting excited for the game now, you dont have to comment to me every time I express it.
I've criticized you in the past for the way I think you say some things, but in this case I'll stand with you. Attacks on the DRM won't stop, because we believe it's wrong, but people don't need to attack you every time you speak up.

Except for that one item, I'm excited about the game too. I'm hopeful about the modability, which if true means that most of the complaints are about things which will be easy to change. My biggest worry is about problems in former versions that never got fixed, and can't be fixed by modders.

I think it's time to leave Trenken alone - at least until he runs me down again.:D

Oh, and believe it or not, Brag is a respected published author, who has also kept us entertained for many a moon with his wonderful Johann Sebastian Balz stories.

[Méo]

I invite you to take a look at the first seconds of this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDHM0yb8Gl0

Notice how calm is the sea in the U-boat pen compared to the latest SH5 video. :hmmm:

[Brag]

I've criticized you in the past for the way I think you say some things, but in this case I'll stand with you. Attacks on the DRM won't stop, because we believe it's wrong, but people don't need to attack you every time you speak up.

Except for that one item, I'm excited about the game too. I'm hopeful about the modability, which if true means that most of the complaints are about things which will be easy to change. My biggest worry is about problems in former versions that never got fixed, and can't be fixed by modders.

I think it's time to leave Trenken alone - at least until he runs me down again.:D

Oh, and believe it or not, Brag is a respected published author, who has also kept us entertained for many a moon with his wonderful Johann Sebastian Balz stories.

Steve,
Huge thanks for your kind words. Time to leave Trenken alone, and alone he stands, a monument to agent-provocateurs. The arrogance is so palpable he might get immortalized as a character in a future story. :D

[Highbury]

This is Subsim not assassinsim.

:hmmm:

[trenken]

I've criticized you in the past for the way I think you say some things, but in this case I'll stand with you. Attacks on the DRM won't stop, because we believe it's wrong, but people don't need to attack you every time you speak up.

Except for that one item, I'm excited about the game too. I'm hopeful about the modability, which if true means that most of the complaints are about things which will be easy to change. My biggest worry is about problems in former versions that never got fixed, and can't be fixed by modders.

I think it's time to leave Trenken alone - at least until he runs me down again.:D

Oh, and believe it or not, Brag is a respected published author, who has also kept us entertained for many a moon with his wonderful Johann Sebastian Balz stories.

I appreciate that Steve, but just as those can express their hatred towards DRM, I guess I can express why I dont mind it. Does that make me a bad guy? I dont think it does, but since they have a different opinion on it, im the bad guy. Its not my fault that I dont have a problem with it.

At this point the game is close to being released, I'm exicted for it, I do feel bad for those that wont be able to play it, but what can I do about that? Nothing. So I come here to talk about my excitement for the game, and every time I say something positive, or see any thread with any positivity to it, someone comes it complaining about DRM, and it spirals out of control.

Im sure there's mods on this site. At some point they need to just reel this in and restore order around here. Believe me, if they dont come into every thread posting crap about DRM, I wont go into theirs and defend it. Thats the best thing but its not happening right now.

At this point everyone has made mistakes, myself included, things get out of hand in the heat of the moment, but I think enough time has passed with this thing that now we just have to get this board back to the way it used to be. Discipline people if need be. If ive done something wrong, slap a ban on me and ill take it. Anything to get this place better than its been. DRM is one issue of many, it shouldnt be flooding the entire board.

[Stormfly]

The second video, it was about the new 3d engine was realy good, loved that video, i was realy excided ! :up:

now... i dont know what i hate more, the white crosshair with that white borders if you highlight something, the ugly face in the periscope, the whole 2D interface, the unrealistic movement of the water or that BEEEEEP DRM... :x sorry man, nothing personal against you !

this is going to be like vista was, ...for house wifes :nope:

[GermanGS]

I do agree that going crazy about removing DRM will not help the problem, since UBI will most likely not remove it at the release.

That is why i am not even going to bother to complain about it, instead my suggestion is that it can have a timed limit, like have a 12 hours of accumulated game-play being connected to UBI DRM and after the 12 hour period a player can be off the hook, and is able to play in offline mod.:salute:

I think, that such approach will make the community happier and will not require a huge amount of programming.

Just a suggestion though, I'm still going to get the game with DRM or not. I have good Internet and Downtime will not kill me. :yeah:

[Nisgeis]

Believe me, if they dont come into every thread posting crap about DRM, I wont go into theirs and defend it. Thats the best thing but its not happening right now.

You posted this, just eight hours ago:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1259352&postcount=5

I do hope you do what you say from now on. That was a perfectly nice thread until then. A haven from DRM. It didn't last long though.

[Brag]

We are three weeks away from announced date of release. So far, the website and the Ubi TV footage have only increased the doubts about SHV.

If in reality it turns out that the game has been adapted to fit two completely different markets (Kiddie bang bang and serious subsimmers) this by itself could be a disaster. Add DRM to the mix and it could be a catastrophe.

I worry about the periscope view, did I hear the American ahooga klaxon as the diving signal?
I can't imagine the devs doing this, but they also have to take orders from the suits who wouldn't know a submarine from a river boat.

So far, all indications are that the Ubi team is in great dissaray. This doesn't bode well for the game.

Of course, if they insist on DRMifying the game, who cares as we all are going to take refuge in SH3 or SH4 for the fans of the ahooga klaxon.

:salute::salute::salute:

[slowworm]

We are three weeks away from announced date of release. So far, the website and the Ubi TV footage have only increased the doubts about SHV.

If in reality it turns out that the game has been adapted to fit two completely different markets (Kiddie bang bang and serious subsimmers) this by itself could be a disaster. Add DRM to the mix and it could be a catastrophe.

I worry about the periscope view, did I hear the American ahooga klaxon as the diving signal?
I can't imagine the devs doing this, but they also have to take orders from the suits who wouldn't know a submarine from a river boat.

So far, all indications are that the Ubi team is in great dissaray. This doesn't bode well for the game.

Of course, if they insist on DRMifying the game, who cares as we all are going to take refuge in SH3 or SH4 for the fans of the ahooga klaxon.

:salute::salute::salute:

Couldn't agree more. I want a simulation, not an RPG. Still no footage of a TDC, which is pretty indicative that it isn't there since so many folks actually want to see it. That periscope screen is awful.

The graphics are nice, but good graphics do not replace gameplay. Heck, I still play doom with the doomsday engine because the gameplay is good.

With the fact that UBI has classified the game as action/adventure and with everything we have seen in screenshots and interviews I can only conclue this is a departure from the SH series and it is going in a new direction, away from true simulation.

No doubt that will continue to appeal to some here, and all well and good for you.

For me, I'm not interested until it has been modded up to at least the GWX/OLC gui level. By then it will probably be DRM free and cost about $9.99

Till then I'll stick with SH III.

[Leif...]

Notice how the chefs beard is outlined, as it is an item in itself. That must mean that you could give orders to the chef, or to the chefs beard. You know you have been out on a long voyage when you can select someones beard and talk to it.

[frau kaleun]

Notice how the chefs beard is outlined, as it is an item in itself. That must mean that you could give orders to the chef, or to the chefs beard. You know you have been out on a long voyage when you can select someones beard and talk to it.

And when the beard answers, it's definitely time to head home.

[JackAubrey]

And when the beard answers, it's definitely time to head home.
and if the beard, on top of it all, adresses you as "Big Boy", then I see some shore leave in a padded cell on the horizon. :haha:

[The Enigma]

Well, I'm totally against the DRM/OSP added to the game.
For this reason only I'm not gonna buy it until it is removed.

About the content:
I can only judge it after actually having played the game.
Movies and images, they all can be misleading.

I'm surprised that so many subsim visitors are having such strong opinion
about a game that hasn't been released yet. :hmmm:

[ERPP8]

DRM can't be too big of a problem unless you have a bad connection. My internet connection isn't great but I don't think it will be that big of a problem. Before you make an opinion, think about if it will really affect you.

The way I see the possible outcomes of the DRM crap is(in order from best to worst):
1.Ubisoft rushes to rid the game of DRM before March due to all the hatred on this forum.:D
2.They can't take out DRM in time but don't want to delay the release so they make a patch in the near future.:DL
3.Ubisoft can't take out DRM before the deadline so they delay the release.:)
4. They don't adress the problem at all.:nope:





With the fact that UBI has classified the game as action/adventure and with everything we have seen in screenshots

Early screenshots don't tell much, they're meant to look cinematic not realistic.
Let the game come out and see it before you say:

I'll stick with SH III.

[oldsaloon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hra7qa0eso

[longam]

There building off the previous games which is a good thing

[Hartmann]

Simplied interface, subs over rails and perhaps too fast .

nothing about TDC and aircraft attacks

[the_belgian]

for those who can't view the movie,here you find an impresion(pics are added backwards)

http://s150.photobucket.com/albums/s99/yveswouters/silent%20hunter%205/

in the first one(size was by accident reduced) there is,when i'm not mistaking,the answer to one question;you can see yourself o the deck with the external camera.

[Platapus]

But still no demonstration of manual targeting/plotting.

I just know it is included in the game.. I just know it. :nope:

[the_belgian]

but they do show how to set the torpedodepht:D

[jazman]

Hello all you Big Boys!

FYI, that video was packed to the gills with Romanian inside jokes.

OK, I just made that up. It would explain things, though.

[Greg Wak]

I don't think they are going to show full realism for fear of scaring people off. Did they show full manual TDC for SH3 before release? I don't remember. I'm sure it's in there. Hopefully the real dials are in there as well. I think maybe I will see what this forum thinks of it for a couple of days first. I think it looks good and I don't see what the deal about the white cross is.

[Cpt Geir]

Anyways if this game has the RPG element in it, or it kind of sucks in any other way, im pretty sure this is a half-fabrika compared to the SH5 in the future when the modders have done something with it. Just like SH3 became 10 times more realistic and better after GWX came around. (Thanks GWX Crew!) :up:

But still, walking around the sub is pretty neat. :D