New ubi sh5 website, have a look

[Zugfuhrer]

New ubi sh5 website have a look

[Sailor Steve]

Link?

[AVGWarhawk]

Ok. Looks blank. :06:

[oscar19681]

http://silent-hunter.uk.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/

[Task Force]

yep...

oah, and just a link to get there quicker...
http://silent-hunter.uk.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/index.php

[karamazovnew]

Woohoo, the mermaid's in :rock:

Sorry, I was a lot behind with the whole emblem contest...

[oscar19681]

Check out game infot and your crew. The crew now consists of only 11 members? I guess you cannot interact with the rest of the crew for some reason.

[Task Force]

lol, avg, oscar, and I posted at the same second.

[AVGWarhawk]

A sub every week?

[The General]

Yeah, different Type II's I guess? :hmmm:

[oscar19681]

lol, avg, oscar, and I posted at the same second.


Snell!! Man the flak guns!!:haha:

[Sailor Steve]

The Collector's Edition almost makes me want to buy it.





Almost.

[danlisa]

A sub every week?

Allowing for delays in site updates.

Lets start the ball rolling this then:

The image, of what I assume is the in game model, of the VIIA, why is there a flag pole on the bow and where is the full length deck railing?

On the plus side, the anchor is on the correct side. Woohoo.:woot:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1073965&postcount=13

[Task Force]

yea, I really wish they would exclude SH5 from the drm... id like to get the collertors eddition, or regular myself.

[Iron Budokan]

Those biographies for your crew read like stereotyped RPG stuff.

*shudders*

The "new sub" section brought forth a chuckle. They open up with the VIIC. Next week? Prolly the VIIB, to be followed by the VII...well, you get the picture.

But, Egad, those bios, Man, that was painful reading. :rotfl2:

[Sailor Steve]

Well, I was trying to avoid using the 'D' word, but yeah, that's my meaning too.:dead:

[HundertzehnGustav]

and some artwork with an IX/C, late tower always makes me wanna cry...

atm stuck in the western entrance to gibraltar, looking for tsome tommy with mine

[razark]

Check out game infot and your crew. The crew now consists of only 11 members? I guess you cannot interact with the rest of the crew for some reason.

So, does this mean that we get the same crew every time? Or are these just examples of what we might get?

And some of these abilities listed seem just wrong.

Crush depth - knowing how to handle the systems, the chief engineer, can increase the maximum depth for his boat.
Maneuvering - The submarine will turn faster either surfaced or submerged.
Reveal hidden enemies - Based on intuition and experience, the sound guy, can unveil hidden enemies where nothing seems to be.
Total revealing - An experienced sound guy is able to offer you more information about the hydrophone targets than usual. You will be able to see on your map all contacts as if are in visual range.
Warheads specialist - A veteran Torpedoman is able to adjust the torpedo systems in order to obtain a longer range and higher damage.
Pre-heat torpedo - Pre-heating the torpedo systems just before the firing, the torpedo damage and speed will be increased.

[The General]

Those biographies...Man, that was painful reading. :rotfl2:Why?

The Littorio looks good though doesn't she? Shame Sailor Steve and all those who've sworn not to buy SH5 won't get to see her in the Campaign :03:

[bigboywooly]

Hmmmm I guess these are the ship previews coming soon
ish



HMS Hood
Illustrious class
Nelson class
North Carolina class
Somers class
Clemson class

Aside from the 2 we have already seen
Inspiring choices

[mookiemookie]

From the "Playale U-bot Types Reveal" page. :rotfl2::dead:

http://imgur.com/t1gzw.png

[Egan]

Razark, Shame on you for missing out the only one that matters:

Shark trainer - Able to train sharks with frikkin' lasers on their heads.

[Iron Budokan]

Why?

The Littorio looks good though doesn't she? Shame Sailor Steve and all those who've sworn not to buy SH5 won't get to see her in the Campaign :03:

The writing? Extremely generic, just like you'd get in any RPG. Leaves the player character open to a broad interpretation. I swear they read like ability pages out of a D&D manual, but for submariners.

It was def cringe worthy. :yep:

[Alex]

Almost all emblems I like are in. :)

Once again I must say that I can't understand how this acey deucey emblem made it though :06:. It's not ugly, of course, but, well... It's certainly NOT the prettiest one.

@ Torplexed : :rock: !

:D

[razark]

Razark, Shame on you for missing out the only one that matters:

Shark trainer - Able to train sharks with frikkin' lasers on their heads.


Now, that almost sounds credible... :nope:



From the "Playale U-bot Types Reveal" page.


Is it just me, or does it not name which U-boat is which on that map?

[karamazovnew]

Don't forget... MODDING :salute:
We'll probably be able to increase the number of custom crew. Bernard will surely make it in the first wave of crews :haha:

[ETR3(SS)]

Let's have a look at the US site then shall we?

http://silent-hunter.us.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/

Oh my, what's this? Nothings changed?

Little more food for thought.:know:

[tonschk]

I AM addicted just to the SILENT HUNTER Series and I Play anything else on my PC , I cant wait to put my hands on the SILENT HUNTER 5 ...... without a doubt I will BUY this SILENT HUNTER 5 game

[Sailor Steve]

Why?Shame Sailor Steve and all those who've sworn not to buy SH5 won't get to see her in the Campaign :03:
Since you called me out by name I have to assume you only read half my posts and decide you're right and I'm stupid.

Let me repeat: If they GAVE me the game I still couldn't see the lovely Littorio in the Campaign, because I can't afford an internet connection. How does that add up to me swearing not to buy anything?

[Letum]

The image, of what I assume is the in game model, of the VIIA, why is there a flag pole on the bow and where is the full length deck railing?


Damm! I missed the flagpole in subwolves!
But, yes, where are the railings, the semi-external aft tube and the sloped aft exo-hull?
http://www.uboataces.com/images/type_viia.jpg

[COWBOY10]

Intresting.

7 different Subs. !!!!!!
(or 7 Different styles of one type of sub)

Also noticed, Nowhere does it say on the order page, That internet is required to play this.

Think Maybe they have had a rethink, Or just forgotten to put it on.

Though Does make me sad, I could be bloody tempted with this. Pity I wont be able to use it.

[Letum]

Also noticed, Nowhere does it say on the order page, That internet is required to play this.

Yes it does.

[ETR3(SS)]

Take a look at the XO and the cook, notice anything?

Edit: Oh and the Torpedo Officer too.

[SteamWake]

Yes it does.

It reads "internet connection required'".

They had better correct that to "Persistant internet connection required" or they will end up in trouble :yep:

[SteamWake]

Take a look at the XO and the cook, notice anything?

I had to chuckle at the cooks special abilities .. "able to cook" .. well damn good thing !

[frau kaleun]

I had to chuckle at the cooks special abilities .. "able to cook" .. well damn good thing !

Yes but does he have a good recipe for seagull soup? I think that's the real question.

[Das Gespenst]

Willi Pelz is the best crewman there.

[The General]

The Collector's Edition almost makes me want to buy it. Almost.

How does that add up to me swearing not to buy anything?You don't want to buy it, you want to buy it?:doh:

[karamazovnew]

You don't want to buy it, you want to buy it?:doh:

He wants to PLAY it....:shucks:

[Sailor Steve]

I desperately want to buy it, but why buy it so I can put it in my computer and read the "Must Connect To Ubi" screen?

[Mikhayl]

HMS Hood:
http://silent-hunter.uk.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/img/boats/boat1.jpg

Illustrious:
http://silent-hunter.uk.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/img/boats/boat2.jpg

Nelson:
http://silent-hunter.uk.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/img/boats/boat3.jpg

North Carolina:
http://silent-hunter.uk.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/img/boats/boat4.jpg

Somers:
http://silent-hunter.uk.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/img/boats/boat5.jpg

Clemson:
http://silent-hunter.uk.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/img/boats/boat6.jpg

[The General]

I desperately want to buy it, but why buy it so I can put it in my computer and read the "Must Connect To Ubi" screen?How much for an internet connection in your area? Per month? Will your computer run SH5 smoothly with an internet connection?

[bigboywooly]

How much for an internet connection in your area? Per month? Will your computer run SH5 smoothly with an internet connection?

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h22/bigboywooly/popcorn3.gif

This could be good

[Sailor Steve]

How much for an internet connection in your area? Per month? Will your computer run SH5 smoothly with an internet connection?
I can get one fairly cheap, but I'm so poor I'm constantly on the verge of being homeless again. Getting a job I can actually do is the hard part.

Oops, belay that - as of yesterday I really am homeless again, so it's a double whammy.

[trenken]

Since you called me out by name I have to assume you only read half my posts and decide you're right and I'm stupid.

Let me repeat: If they GAVE me the game I still couldn't see the lovely Littorio in the Campaign, because I can't afford an internet connection. How does that add up to me swearing not to buy anything?

You can afford to build a PC that can run these games, but cant afford an internet connection?

Well im excited about the game anyway. Cant wait for March.

[karamazovnew]

I can get one fairly cheap, but I'm so poor I'm constantly on the verge of being homeless again. Getting a job I can actually do is the hard part.

Oops, belay that - as of yesterday I really am homeless again, so it's a double whammy.

Damn... Land of Opportunity my ass. This economic crisis sure has hit you guys hard. I thought the "Bruce Spingsteen" era was over. It's "Atlantic City" all over again :nope:

[Sailor Steve]

You can afford to build a PC that can run these games, but cant afford an internet connection?
Actually no I can't, but I'm willing to fake it.

[The General]

Wait a minute, aren't you on the internet right now? And weren't you at the Subsim meet in Copenhagen last year?

[Sailor Steve]

Wait a minute, aren't you on the internet right now? And weren't you at the Subsim meet in Copenhagen last year?
I'm at the local library right now, and no, I didn't go to Copenhagen.

My band did play a gig that week. Made a whopping fifty bucks.

[trenken]

Actually no I can't, but I'm willing to fake it.

Gotcha, because I just priced out a new machine since the one im using is about 9 years old, and this new machine is like $1.5k. So I thought you could afford to have a PC that can even play these games, but not afford an internet connection. That didnt make much sense to me.

[longam]

A sub every week?

A new Playable U boat everyweek.... nice. I wonder if you have to find it?

[trenken]

A new Playable U boat everyweek.... nice. I wonder if you have to find it?

There's 4 playable subs, and about 4-5 weeks between now and release, so it makes sense. It shows this on the site.

[IanC]

My band did play a gig that week. Made a whopping fifty bucks.

Steve you in a band? What instrument?

[Sailor Steve]

Steve you in a band? What instrument?
Bass. Check my sig.

[Mikhayl]

More like 4 different variants, though you have to love the marketing types:
http://i48.tinypic.com/10hitq9.jpg

[The General]

I'm at the local library right now, and no, I didn't go to Copenhagen.

My band did play a gig that week. Made a whopping fifty bucks.Jesus man, I'm sorry. How 'bout we put this 'Community' thing to the test and start up a donation type deal? Do you have a Paypal account? There's nearly 16000 Members on this site, if only 10% donate $1 that's $1600 towards a new machine. I'm in! Get Neal on the phone somebody!

[IanC]

Bass. Check my sig.

:rock: Some of my favs were bass players, Roger Waters for one.

[Mikhayl]

I think it's a new screenshot, not sure how much of it is photoshop?

http://shop.ubi.com/prod/screenshots/sh5_2.jpg

[trenken]

Jesus man, I'm sorry. How 'bout we put this 'Community' thing to the test and start up a donation type deal? Do you have a Paypal account? There's nearly 16000 Members on this site, if only 10% donate $1 that's $1600 towards a new machine. I'm in! Get Neal on the phone somebody!

I would donate.

[BulSoldier]

That is just great.THe crew abilities are great !!! Even better i wont be able to run the game.
Well, atleast i wont be anoyed that i wont buy the game even though i can run it.

[trenken]

I think it's a new screenshot, not sure how much of it is photoshop?

http://shop.ubi.com/prod/screenshots/sh5_2.jpg

The water is clearly shopped. Ship probably doesnt look too far off from what it is in the game.

[Sailor Steve]

Jesus man, I'm sorry. How 'bout we put this 'Community' thing to the test and start up a donation type deal? Do you have a Paypal account? There's nearly 16000 Members on this site, if only 10% donate $1 that's $1600 towards a new machine. I'm in! Get Neal on the phone somebody!
Been offered the first time it happened, back in 2006. I refused then, as I will now. Thanks for the offer, though.:sunny:

ps - didn't mean to bring it up here. I usually reserve my status for General Topics.

[Iron Budokan]

Jesus man, I'm sorry. How 'bout we put this 'Community' thing to the test and start up a donation type deal? Do you have a Paypal account? There's nearly 16000 Members on this site, if only 10% donate $1 that's $1600 towards a new machine. I'm in! Get Neal on the phone somebody!

That sounds like a personal shot to me and not an offer to help. I hope I'm wrong.

[trenken]

Been offered the first time it happened, back in 2006. I refused then, as I will now. Thanks for the offer, though.:sunny:

ps - didn't mean to bring it up here. I usually reserve my status for General Topics.

You should take it. Everyone needs help sometimes. I'd throw in $10 at least.

[trenken]

Now you're just being nasty. No need to make fun of a man if he's struggling to survive. Not everyone has a bed of roses. Please, get over yourself, fella.

I dont think that was his intention at all.

[Iron Budokan]

I dont think that was his intention at all.

Then I happily stand corrected. :salute:

[conus00]

The more information UBI releases on the net about SH5, the more damage it does to the game in my eyes. After reading the crew biographies I didn't know if to laugh or cry. "Steck sie rein"??? You've got to be f**king kidding me?

The SH5 is not going to be Type VII simulator with RPG elements it sounds more like FPS/RPG with faint trace of "simulation". The fact it takes place on the submarine does NOT make it simulation.

As of now I am definitely "hands off" of this "simulator".

@UBI: please do me a favor and do not release anything else until March 4th

[longam]

Well not a bunch of new content on the site, just in one place now. (shrug)

[trenken]

The more information UBI releases on the net about SH5, the more damage it does to the game in my eyes. After reading the crew biographies I didn't know if to laugh or cry. "Steck sie rein"??? You've got to be f**king kidding me?

The SH5 is not going to be Type VII simulator with RPG elements it sounds more like FPS/RPG with faint trace of "simulation". The fact it takes place on the submarine does NOT make it simulation.

As of now I am definitely "hands off" of this "simulator".

@UBI: please do me a favor and do not release anything else until March 4th


The game isnt even out yet man. Take it easy. Never seen so much pessimism before a game release.

[Sailor Steve]

The game isnt even out yet man.
That could very very well be true.

[BulSoldier]

The only simulation in the game seems to be its heritage.Well they said it will be new direction, you cant go much diffrent that that !

Oh and trenken, well i have never seen so much bad news about a game, but well it doesnt mean it wont happen.

[trenken]

I dont know, I'm pretty excited about the new direction. Im sure it has all the hardcore sim stuff like locating targets, intercept, all that good stuff that was always there, but they really worked hard on the sub interiors, improved all visuals, and the crew actually has personalities. I like that, you get to know these guys while on your journey.

Sounds just fine to me, I dont know what you guys are complaining about all the time.

[conus00]

The game isnt even out yet man. Take it easy. Never seen so much pessimism before a game release.

True, but there is enough info released to allow me to form an opinion.
I am entitled to have one... If you call it "pessimism" so be it.

"The difference between an optimist an pessimist is that pessimist can be nicely surprised."

[BulSoldier]

You are actually right.They worked hard to improve all the VISIUAL stuff.And how much playthroughs with the campaning you think you can have before you know their life stories ?

Im glad you are the one beacon of light for the game though.If you are proven right, well i will pledge my life to your service...:yep:

[trenken]

True, but there is enough info released to allow me to form an opinion.
I am entitled to have one... If you call it "pessimism" so be it.

"The difference between an optimist an pessimist is that pessimist can be nicely surprised."

True, but give the game a chance. It's a month from release and you've already decided not to buy it? Wait for a review or two maybe.

[Paajtor]

Anyone clicked on the "Uplay" thingy, top of the page?
It's awesome, I somehow "earned 10 U", whatever that is.
I was even allowed to pick an avatar, out of 3 available choices!:yeah::roll:

[trenken]

You are actually right.They worked hard to improve all the VISIUAL stuff.And how much playthroughs with the campaning you think you can have before you know their life stories ?

Im glad you are the one beacon of light for the game though.If you are proven right, well i will pledge my life to your service...:yep:

Well I mean the crew thing is just 1 new aspect of the game that we know of. Of course the most important part is the gameplay, and I seriously doubt they would dump everything that made SH great.

Im sure you'll be out on patrols, hunting for target, you'll still have to plot intercept and all that, that's the sim aspect of SH5. I cant see how they would get rid of all that.

[Mikhayl]

Some positive stuff dug from the descriptions:

Chief description: His main duty is supervising diving operation of the uboat, the daily trim and the maintenance of mechanical systems.[...]
He is also is the man who must set the explosives to scuttle the boat and prevent capture by the enemy.

Ok, maybe it's just RPG background story bull****, but maybe it actually will be important in game.

Navigator description:
Job description: His main job is everything related to navigation and also he is in charge of provisioning of supplies. The navigator responsibility is to be always aware of ship position; he will also plan all the routes taken.
Passive abilities:
• Great Circle Navigation - An experienced navigator knows how to find the shortest way between two points, especially if you trust him.

Same as above, maybe just storytelling bull****, but maybe some new good features. We know that the world is still a damn cylinder, but maybe this time we will have an alternate navigation system that mimics/abstracts real-life navigation, instead of just boring GPS waypoints.

[Boris]

"The difference between an optimist an pessimist is that pessimist can be nicely surprised."

A pessimist can be nicely surprised because he is unhappy most of the time. But most of the time the pessimist will take good news and see only the bad in it. An optimist can't be dissapointed, because when something bad does happen, he is able to see the good in it, or can move on.

[oscar19681]

The water is clearly shopped. Ship probably doesnt look too far off from what it is in the game.

Link is dead?

[trenken]

Link is dead?

Works for me still. It's big though, might take a minute to download, unless you're on dialup, then probably like 5 minutes.

[oscar19681]

I dont know, I'm pretty excited about the new direction. Im sure it has all the hardcore sim stuff like locating targets, intercept, all that good stuff that was always there, but they really worked hard on the sub interiors, improved all visuals, and the crew actually has personalities. I like that, you get to know these guys while on your journey.

Sounds just fine to me, I dont know what you guys are complaining about all the time.

Cant agree more!

[Mikhayl]

Yeah the pic is 2Mb big, 5000*2500.

[conus00]

True, but give the game a chance. It's a month from release and you've already decided not to buy it? Wait for a review or two maybe.

I've decided NOT to buy it the second they announced DRM (just mentioning it without trying to turn this one into another DRM-bashing thread)

Well I mean the crew thing is just 1 new aspect of the game that we know of. Of course the most important part is the gameplay, and I seriously doubt they would dump everything that made SH great.

Im sure you'll be out on patrols, hunting for target, you'll still have to plot intercept and all that, that's the sim aspect of SH5. I cant see how they would get rid of all that.

I really admire your optimism and I really, REALLY, wish that you are right and I am wrong. I have been looking forward to SHV since the minute I found out that they were making it.
To explain my (pessimistic) standpoint: (this is copy/paste of my words from another thread) We have been kept in darkness about major SHV "improvements" an being spoon-fed bullcrap eyecandy images and videos. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT AN EYECANDY! That's why I still play SH3. What I do care about is playability and (more importantly) re-playability. Without it any game amounts just to it: eyecandy.

In addition: Introducing the element of crew background/history is not a bad idea but only if you create hundreds of characters with their bios (and seriously they would have to be better than "Steck sie rein") so the game does not repeat itself every time you play it. Considering how much (little) time the devs had to develop this game (resulting in one sub and limited campaign) the bios are probably very low on their priority list. I'd be perfectly ok with game based on SH3 with some improvements but based on the info released that is just NOT the case. At least in my book.

[Jaeger]

i see some new modding possibilities here (where i can imagine to become a modder myself): we can mod the speech files (or text parts) of the crew to give them new characters. i see a mod called :"the mean XO" or an anouncement "new Ensign available - a tough guy" or "new jokes for the XO mod" etc.

second: "He is also is the man who must set the explosives to scuttle the boat and prevent capture by the enemy." - does that mean we will have the possibility to scuttle the boat? i hope the devs heard us and made in this feature?.

third: "Passive abilities of the radio guy:
• Direction Finder Radio - A veteran radio guy knows how to tune the radio in order to increase its range.
• Direction Finder Radar - A veteran radio guy knows how to tune the radar in order to increase its detection range and response time.

Active abilities:
• Safe communications - The radio guy will be extra careful while sending radio messages, lowering the chance to being DF-end, avoiding being spotted by any enemy aircraft.
• Fake message - The radio guy will send a fake SSS message and track any enemy who will respond back, being able to ambush them later. This trick is not always a success.
• Radio orders – will access: play radio music, play gramophone music, send contact report, request orders and status report."

this sound very promising to me: the radio guy will be able to detect other ships using their radar? and he can send fake messages? i am not sure this is realistic...

[urfisch]

seems some updates are still to come. but as to know, i just wait for the mod tools and their abilities. the stock game will disappoint most of us...i think.

:-?

but this was the same in the former versions...

[trenken]

I've decided NOT to buy it the second they announced DRM (just mentioning it without trying to turn this one into another DRM-bashing thread)



I really admire your optimism and I really, REALLY, wish that you are right and I am wrong. I have been looking forward to SHV since the minute I found out that they were making it.
To explain my (pessimistic) standpoint: (this is copy/paste of my words from another thread) We have been kept in darkness about major SHV "improvements" an being spoon-fed bullcrap eyecandy images and videos. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT AN EYECANDY! That's why I still play SH3. What I do care about is playability and (more importantly) re-playability. Without it any game amounts just to it: eyecandy.

In addition: Introducing the element of crew background/history is not a bad idea but only if you create hundreds of characters with their bios (and seriously they would have to be better than "Steck sie rein") so the game does not repeat itself every time you play it. Considering how much (little) time the devs had to develop this game (resulting in one sub and limited campaign) the bios are probably very low on their priority list. I'd be perfectly ok with game based on SH3 with some improvements but based on the info released that is just NOT the case. At least in my book.

They had about 1.5 years didnt they? That's not too bad for a sequel.

About the 1 sub, I remember reading in Neal's interview with them, the 1 sub was a consious decision they made because they wanted to model every aspect of the interior, since you have full control over the camera for the first time.

So they cut it down to 1, work very hard on that, and maybe we'll see more later, who knows.

I just mention the visuals since thats a standard issue improvement with every sequel, but if you read their interviews their MAIN focus wasnt the visuals or the crew, it was the events of the war, and you playing a more direct role in how things play out.

Well that sounds to me like you patrol this or that grid, shoot a torpedo at this ship or not, and things around you change, which in turn adds replay, because the next time you play through and get to that point again, maybe you try a different approach.

I just cant relate to trashing a game that isnt even out yet. I dont get that.

[oscar19681]

I've decided NOT to buy it the second they announced DRM (just mentioning it without trying to turn this one into another DRM-bashing thread)



I really admire your optimism and I really, REALLY, wish that you are right and I am wrong. I have been looking forward to SHV since the minute I found out that they were making it.
To explain my (pessimistic) standpoint: (this is copy/paste of my words from another thread) We have been kept in darkness about major SHV "improvements" an being spoon-fed bullcrap eyecandy images and videos. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT AN EYECANDY! That's why I still play SH3. What I do care about is playability and (more importantly) re-playability. Without it any game amounts just to it: eyecandy.

In addition: Introducing the element of crew background/history is not a bad idea but only if you create hundreds of characters with their bios (and seriously they would have to be better than "Steck sie rein") so the game does not repeat itself every time you play it. Considering how much (little) time the devs had to develop this game (resulting in one sub and limited campaign) the bios are probably very low on their priority list. I'd be perfectly ok with game based on SH3 with some improvements but based on the info released that is just NOT the case. At least in my book.

If you really hate eyecandy so much , you should at least be playing AOD.

[BulSoldier]

Noone hates eyecandy but if it is at the expense of the gameplay and other simulation related aspects of the game , how could i not hate it for taking time of the devs that could have gone improving vareous aspects that need to be taken care of.

[conus00]

seems some updates are still to come. but as to know, i just wait for the mod tools and their abilities. the stock game will disappoint most of us...i think.

:-?

but this was the same in the former versions...

Very true.

They had about 1.5 years didnt they? That's not too bad for a sequel.

About the 1 sub, I remember reading in Neal's interview with them, the 1 sub was a consious decision they made because they wanted to model every aspect of the interior, since you have full control over the camera for the first time.

So they cut it down to 1, work very hard on that, and maybe we'll see more later, who knows.

I just mention the visuals since thats a standard issue improvement with every sequel, but if you read their interviews their MAIN focus wasnt the visuals or the crew, it was the events of the war, and you playing a more direct role in how things play out.

Well that sounds to me like you patrol this or that grid, shoot a torpedo at this ship or not, and things around you change, which in turn adds replay, because the next time you play through and get to that point again, maybe you try a different approach.

I just cant relate to trashing a game that isnt even out yet. I dont get that.

You make some very good points here. Also, let me point out that I am not "trashing the game". Expressing one's opinion (which in my case happens to be negative, granted, based on limited amount of information) is not exactly "trashing". If I wanted to trash something I would not pick on the game itself but about the way it is being marketed. And THAT would deserve some serious bashing...

[conus00]

If you really hate eyecandy so much , you should at least be playing AOD.

As a matter of fact I still do. BTW you misunderstood me because I DO NOT hate eyecandy.

Noone hates eyecandy but if it is at the expense of the gameplay and other simulation related aspects of the game , how could i not hate it for taking time of the devs that could have gone improving vareous aspects that need to be taken care of.

^ here is what I hate. Thanks BulSoldier I couldn't say it better myself!

[AVGWarhawk]

Allowing for delays in site updates.

Lets start the ball rolling this then:

The image, of what I assume is the in game model, of the VIIA, why is there a flag pole on the bow and where is the full length deck railing?

On the plus side, the anchor is on the correct side. Woohoo.:woot:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1073965&postcount=13


I'm sorry, I have DLC on the brain so much plus the talk of DRM I was thinking we as disc owners would get a sub downloaded every week. I need to stop sniffing glue. :doh:

[Iron Budokan]

Eyecandy at the expense of gameplay is fine.

Just don't call it a "simulation." Cuz it ain't. :O:

[conus00]

Eyecandy at the expense of gameplay is fine.

Just don't call it a "simulation." Cuz it ain't. :O:

Exactly my point.

[trenken]

Very true.



You make some very good points here. Also, let me point out that I am not "trashing the game". Expressing one's opinion (which in my case happens to be negative, granted, based on limited amount of information) is not exactly "trashing". If I would want to trash something I would not pick on the game itself but about the way it is being marketed. And THAT would deserve some serious bashing...

Well all Im saying is its hard to have an opinion on something we know so little about. If you dont like something they've announced of course that your opinion, totally fine, but there's so many people saying they arent buying the game at all, saying the game sucks, that its not even a sim, and not only is the damn game not even out, but we havent even seen 1 review yet!

I never get like that with games because ive been surprised way too many times in my life. I could sit here all day and say that I think it sucks the game ends in '43, but I havent played the game yet, Im going to assume they made that decision for a good reason. Its their job to make good games, they know damn well bad games will not sell well, and they need this game to sell big time. Making a great game is their top priority.

[trenken]

The thing about all this is maybe the game isnt that great, maybe im wrong, which Ill be totally fine with. Ive got plenty of games to play, its not that big of a deal to me.

But one thing I wont do is form an opinion on something I know so little about. I need to see reviews first.

So until then ill just remain in the middle, causiously hopeful that it will be a good game, but if its not thats fine too, but I wont say its bad right now, thats crazy to me.

[conus00]

Well all Im saying is its hard to have an opinion on something we know so little about. If you dont like something they've announced of course that your opinion, totally fine, but there's so many people saying they arent buying the game at all, saying the game sucks, that its not even a sim, and not only is the damn game not even out, but we havent even seen 1 review yet!

I never get like that with games because ive been surprised way too many times in my life. I could sit here all day and say that I think it sucks the game ends in '43, but I havent played the game yet, Im going to assume they made that decision for a good reason. Its their job to make good games, they know damn well bad games will not sell well, and they need this game to sell big time. Making a great game is their top priority.

Again, I tend to agree and disagree.
1) most of the people who are leaning towards "not buying the game at all" do it for different reasons then "saying the game sucks". IMO most of them (myself included) are concerned about DRM.
2) you are right that the game might be perfectly OK ending in '43 and with only one sub. On the contrary I really enjoyed playing past '43 when every patrol became fight for bare survival instead shooting merchants like fish in bowl. Also, progressing between types of the subs gave me a sense of advancing which with only one type available just disspeared.
3) here is where I disagree with you the most: people who CREATE the game (devs) and people who MARKET IT (UBI) are two different groups of people. While the former might have our best at their hearts, the later just wants to MAKE MONEY.

[longam]

What ever happened to taking it to a PM and quit stepping on the thread?

[conus00]

What ever happened to taking it to a PM and quit stepping on the thread?

I'm sorry about that, maybe I got little bit carried away.
On the other hands I believe I have made some points for other members to react to.

[trenken]

What ever happened to taking it to a PM and quit stepping on the thread?

Yeah I was just thinking that this got derailed fast, happens in every single topic now, all of them end up DRM arguments. Im sure this one will too at some point, it's annoying. It tends to happen when games get close to release, there's pandemonium everywhere.

[MercurySeven]

HMS Hood:
http://silent-hunter.uk.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/img/boats/boat1.jpg

Illustrious:
http://silent-hunter.uk.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/img/boats/boat2.jpg

Nelson:
http://silent-hunter.uk.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/img/boats/boat3.jpg

North Carolina:
http://silent-hunter.uk.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/img/boats/boat4.jpg

Somers:
http://silent-hunter.uk.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/img/boats/boat5.jpg

Clemson:
http://silent-hunter.uk.ubi.com/silent-hunter-5/img/boats/boat6.jpg

Awesome! I love it when they think users are to dumb to even do a right click. :yeah:

[BulSoldier]

Its not about DRM, its about all things that makes us lean towards negative (capsize if you ask me).
And for me atleast the site and all the info (as scarce as it is) is just adding up to the disapointment.

[ETR3(SS)]

Yeah I was just thinking that this got derailed fast, happens in every single topic now, all of them end up DRM arguments. Im sure this one will too at some point, it's annoying. It tends to happen when games get close to release, there's pandemonium everywhere. Very true. And when you try to have a thread dedicated to DRM it gets ruined as well.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160994

:nope:

[trenken]

Very true. And when you try to have a thread dedicated to DRM it gets ruined as well.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160994

:nope:

Hehe, well you should have known better on that one. Civilized and DRM? Come on...

:O:

[ETR3(SS)]

Meh, One can hope.

[trenken]

Meh, One can hope.

To have a civilized discussion here about something that is new for SH would require everyone to remain open minded, not be so negative about everything all the time, and that has proven to be pretty impossible lately.

Just wait til after the game comes out, lets see what kind of reviews it gets, see what people say about the DRM system, and I think MAYBE it would be easier to have a civilized discussion about it.

[Hartmann]

Intresting.

7 different Subs. !!!!!!
(or 7 Different styles of one type of sub)

Also noticed, Nowhere does it say on the order page, That internet is required to play this.

Think Maybe they have had a rethink, Or just forgotten to put it on.

Though Does make me sad, I could be bloody tempted with this. Pity I wont be able to use it.

well it´s easy do 7 or 300 Types of VII boats because interior and exteriors are the same, only changes things like dive deep and speed

[COWBOY10]

Yes it does.

Sorry Letum, My Bad. Was looking at this site

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silent-Hunter-Atlantic-Exclusive-Collectors/dp/B0035JKU8U/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1264430526&sr=8-9

The main site does indeed, Say Internet required.


Bugger.

It does look bloody impressive though.

[THE_MASK]

Awesome! I love it when they think users are to dumb to even do a right click. :yeah:
Hey that works LOL .

[Alex]

I think it's a new screenshot, not sure how much of it is photoshop?

http://shop.ubi.com/prod/screenshots/sh5_2.jpg

Zoom on the bow wake and see how the water behind the wake is blurred/real - whereas the wake itself is finely rendered.
Light reflection effects on the water in the bottom right part of the pic might be real but some water texture as well as foam textures have been pasted on it - still, compare the definition of this part of the water to the one in the background.

[iambecomelife]

this sound very promising to me: the radio guy will be able to detect other ships using their radar? and he can send fake messages? i am not sure this is realistic...

I've read "The Cruel Sea" (historical fiction about a British corvette) and it claims that German subs actually did use fake messages as a ruse. Although TBH I haven't found a primary historical source corroborating it.

[capthelm]

Sorry Letum, My Bad. Was looking at this site

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silent-Hunter-Atlantic-Exclusive-Collectors/dp/B0035JKU8U/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1264430526&sr=8-9

The main site does indeed, Say Internet required.


Bugger.

It does look bloody impressive though.




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