View Full Version : Neoqb considering dropping Online DRM From Rise of Flight
In the near future we will do a real offline single player mode for ROF.
LINK 1 (SimHQ thread) (http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2920791/3.html)
LINK 2 (Neoqb thread) (http://riseofflight.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=5560)
It looks like the online requirement hasn't gone so well for Neoqb.
Glad to see them come to their senses and back down. :salute:
At last I will soon be able to buy RoF. :D
Your turn now Ubisoft! :stare:
If Ubisoft is not reading these threads, they are in for big poo-poo.
Good post, Letum!
mookiemookie
01-28-10, 11:11 AM
"A wise man learns from the mistakes of others - a fool by his own"
GlobalExplorer
01-28-10, 01:15 PM
hopefully this is true.
Highbury
01-28-10, 05:07 PM
It will be one hell of a massive patch if they do lol. These DRMs are not things like Starforce that are tagged on at the end, the entire game is built around a log in, all account info stored on their server, basis. It would be a massive re-write.
neoqb managed to kill off most talk of the DRM and Ubi could do it too. Wait until just before release then tell everyone they are releasing other subs, but you have to pay for each one to be unlocked in your account. Nobody will talk about DRM anymore lol.
Task Force
01-28-10, 05:10 PM
Hmm, I might buy ROF now... But for sh5...:O:
Highbury
01-28-10, 05:14 PM
Hmm, I might buy ROF now... But for sh5...:O:
If it has stopped you I would not buy it yet lol. Lefty posted that in Dec, it would take a long time to make such a fundamental change to the game structure I believe.
Also, I do have access to a "News From the Inside" section of the ROF forum open to devs, publishers, moderators, beta testers etc. I obviously can't tell you what I DO see in there, but I can tell you what I do NOT see, and that is any talk of it coming out any time soon.
Yep, ROF might be my first flight sim. They are obviously bleeding dollars over the DRM, though.
JScones
01-29-10, 01:57 AM
At last I will soon be able to buy RoF. :D
Ditto!
It will be one hell of a massive patch if they do lol. These DRMs are not things like Starforce that are tagged on at the end, the entire game is built around a log in, all account info stored on their server, basis. It would be a massive re-write.
Thus an even more compelling argument against DRM if they are going down that path - they've obviously decided that the benefit of removing DRM far outweighs the high cost. In my opinion they will gain quite a few buyers now (these are the buyers, like me, that you keep forgetting when you claim there's a lack of complaints about DRM over at the RoF forums).
I have been wanting to get a modern WW1 sin for ages, since Rowan's Flying Corps, but that online DRM kept me away from ROF. If it is removed, I will buy it happily and send them a proof of purchase so they can know both I got it legally, and that I didn't get it before because of that system.
In any case, would be interesting to see once the DRM is removed, how much the sales do increase :hmmm:
I have been wanting to get a modern WW1 sin for ages, since Rowan's Flying Corps, but that online DRM kept me away from ROF. If it is removed, I will buy it happily and send them a proof of purchase so they can know both I got it legally, and that I didn't get it before because of that system.
In any case, would be interesting to see once the DRM is removed, how much the sales do increase :hmmm:
Hitman my main WWI flight sim is First Eagles by ThirdWire. Leans a little more toward action than serious sim, but with all the mods out there, it's a very good game.
If/when they remove DRM from ROF I'll buy it. That's the only reason I'm not right now.
ROF sounds like a nice sim. When they drop DRM, they've got a customer here :DL
If it has stopped you I would not buy it yet lol. Lefty posted that in Dec, it would take a long time to make such a fundamental change to the game structure I believe.
Also, I do have access to a "News From the Inside" section of the ROF forum open to devs, publishers, moderators, beta testers etc. I obviously can't tell you what I DO see in there, but I can tell you what I do NOT see, and that is any talk of it coming out any time soon.
RoF's "News From The Inside" tell perhaps 50% of what is in actual and future development .... LOL
I will buy it if they decide to make offline SP possible.
SteamWake
01-29-10, 10:54 AM
Yep, ROF might be my first flight sim. They are obviously bleeding dollars over the DRM, though.
Well you picked one helluva title to begin with.
It's not exactly noob friendly :yep:
Of course all I have seen is the demo and even that was a pita to install due to online verification.
By the way what does "offline SP" mean? Single Player? The game is predominatly single player.
No, RoF is multiplayer as well. But now it lacks dedicated servers. Those are under development (official news) and should be available in the next months.
Actually RoF needs online connection even for single player session. In the near future this DRM should be drop. Thanks to players complaints.
Well you picked one helluva title to begin with.
It's not exactly noob friendly :yep:
Of course all I have seen is the demo and even that was a pita to install due to online verification.
By the way what does "offline SP" mean? Single Player? The game is predominatly single player.
Yea, Offline Single Player. I have no problem with connecting to a serval frequently in general. In fact I buy games on STEAM as a first choice. But the necessity to is a big problem for me. Hurricanes and crap like that can cause long internet outages. During Katrina playing Silent Hunter and Dangerous Waters is what kept me sane. Something SHV would appear unable to do. Simply because a bunch of corporate suits want it that way. Screw them, I vote with my wallet. If I decide to buy SHV it will be the only series I buy containing this crap.
FIREWALL
01-29-10, 02:26 PM
It doesn't take a genius to figure out why there's "No Complainning" at the RoF site.
I understand you can't even join unless you've bought the game. :-?
gimpy117
01-29-10, 06:51 PM
yes, supposedly in the next patch (if the rumors are true). We've been asking for it in the forums there for a while and even though it's not a big deal needing to sign in, its still a nuisance
FIREWALL
01-29-10, 07:09 PM
Dear friends!
neoqb company wishes all of You Happy New Year!
We wish you happiness, health, warmth and love in the New Year!
Simultaneously, we would like to inform you that from December 30 till January 4 the whole team goes on vacation, so the technical support service will not work also. All your posts on the Forum and to rof@neoqb.com will be reviewed and addressed in January 5, 2009.
Good holidays to all and see you on January 5!
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I only hope the master server will not go down during this time.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out why there's "No Complainning" at the RoF site.
I understand you can't even join unless you've bought the game. :-?
Wrong, there was/is a lot of complaining about the DRM but developers are listening and learning. As a matter of fact they'll drop the DRM for offline playing. It has been announced unofficially.
Wrong again. Just register with your e-mail and password. Those will be the same you'll use to play.
Now, what about the genious? :hmmm:
Highbury
01-30-10, 03:58 AM
And Firewall, the post about the team taking a vacation at Xmas. They are a small team, not Ubi. Some things have to shut down at the holidays. You did however cut off the reply to the server question, which was the servers would NOT go unmonitored.
I am not fan of DRM, feel free to keep filling these boards with complaints, but make the factual.
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