Submarine base of Saint-Nazaire

[sav112]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Base_ssmarin_stnazaire.jpg


Anyone place this on a Sat map? I had a look but could not find it:damn:

Also is it frowned upon going to see such places, thinking of doing a drive through France visiting war site like the D-day beaches etc and would love to see this pen up close.

[TarJak]

Use google maps ans search for Bassin de St Nazaire. Turn on Satellite and look for the big grey roofed building right on the waterfront.

Try here: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=&vps=15&jsv=201b&sll=47.276077,-2.201257&sspn=0.005372,0.009549&ie=UTF8&geocode=FX5Z0QId4mne_w&split=0

[August]

Also is it frowned upon going to see such places, thinking of doing a drive through France visiting war site like the D-day beaches etc and would love to see this pen up close.

For years i've wanted to do a tour of European battlefields but there are just so many to see! Normandy, Bastogne, Waterloo, Verdun, the Somme, Belleau Wood, Alesia, Thermopylae,... heck just covering my A-list could take months! It might have to wait until I retire.

[sav112]

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=&sll=47.276077,-2.201257&sspn=0.005372,0.009549&ie=UTF8&geocode=FX5Z0QId4mne_w&split=0&ll=47.273129,-2.196021&spn=0,359.980795&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=47.274945,-2.199525&panoid=P_GAIW4-d0wf8mSdO7PPAQ&cbp=12,286.08,,0,5.4

A great thats the building I thought with that kind of roof but needed street view to see it.


I'm sure there is a web site with all this stuff listed.

[Raptor1]

Why would it be frowned upon going to visit historical places and battlefields?

Unfortunately didn't have much time to get to battlefields and the like when I was in Europe a few months ago, only managed to visit a few (Namely Waterloo and Ypres, had to cancel Normandy, Verdun and most sadly Rocroi)...

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Well, I went to Bastogne, Coleville-Sur-Mer, Caen...well, I guess that's really about it. I'm sure I passed by battle sites and didn't realize it at the time (lack of internet!!)

[frau kaleun]

For years i've wanted to do a tour of European battlefields but there are just so many to see! Normandy, Bastogne, Waterloo, Verdun, the Somme, Belleau Wood, Alesia, Thermopylae,... heck just covering my A-list could take months! It might have to wait until I retire.

If you ever plan a group road trip to Thermopylae, let me know!

Wondering about Alesia, has there been a definitive finding on which place was the actual site? I'm assuming we're talking about Caesar laying siege to the Gauls. I always thought there was some disagreement about where Alesia was located, I know there were at least a couple places that were claiming to be the site, or were at one time believed to be the site.

[August]

If you ever plan a group road trip to Thermopylae, let me know!

Wondering about Alesia, has there been a definitive finding on which place was the actual site? I'm assuming we're talking about Caesar laying siege to the Gauls. I always thought there was some disagreement about where Alesia was located, I know there were at least a couple places that were claiming to be the site, or were at one time believed to be the site.

I believe Alise-Sainte-Reine is the most likely of the contenders but there's no reason we couldn't see all of them! :DL

[Tweety]

YUse google maps ans search for Bassin de St Nazaire. Turn on Satellite and look for the big grey roofed building right on the waterfront.

Try here: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=&vps=15&jsv=201b&sll=47.276077,-2.201257&sspn=0.005372,0.009549&ie=UTF8&geocode=FX5Z0QId4mne_w&split=0

WOW That is so cool. I got excited seeing that in street view. I must be addicted to SH3.

That is a bookmark I will keep. I wonder if other uboat pens are available to see.

Thanks for sharing.

Tweety

[DarkFish]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Base_ssmarin_stnazaire.jpg


Anyone place this on a Sat map? I had a look but could not find it:damn:

Also is it frowned upon going to see such places, thinking of doing a drive through France visiting war site like the D-day beaches etc and would love to see this pen up close.last summer I was on holiday near Saint Nazaire so of course I just *had* to go visit the base.
Unfortunately, little of it is in its original state. most of the pens have been filled up with concrete and the bunkers have been stripped of everything original.

A few days later I did also visit the Lorient U-Boat base. That one was really gorgeous, much of it in its original state.
However, you can only visit Lorient on a guided tour, no free roaming.

When I get home tomorrow I'll see if I can post some pics:salute:

[frau kaleun]

I believe Alise-Sainte-Reine is the most likely of the contenders but there's no reason we couldn't see all of them! :DL

Good point!

[frau kaleun]

When I get home tomorrow I'll see if I can post some pics:salute:

Ooooh please do!

[Torvald Von Mansee]

You know, when it comes to battle sites, I realize I've seen MUCH more of American Revolution and Civil War sites: Antietam, Gettysburg, Petersburg, Lexington & Concord, Saratoga, Cowpens, blah blah blah....

I guess there's nothing really to see at Crecy and Agincourt today, is there?

[Happy Times]

For years i've wanted to do a tour of European battlefields but there are just so many to see! Normandy, Bastogne, Waterloo, Verdun, the Somme, Belleau Wood, Alesia, Thermopylae,... heck just covering my A-list could take months! It might have to wait until I retire.

Whats on your A-list? Im also interested in the older ones.

[DarkFish]

Ooooh please do!as you wish:salute:

Saint-Nazaire pens:
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc333/DF_3852/2-1.jpg

.. and the best pen from the inside. The rest are either filled up with concrete or commercialized. And even this one is only half it's original length.
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc333/DF_3852/1-1.jpg

Something I can wholeheartedly recommend in the St-Nazaire area (La Baule if I'm right) is this small museum located inside a harbour defence bunker:
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc333/DF_3852/9.jpg

with a part of it's original camouflage restored (it was camouflaged as a hotel, originally it even had a tiled roof but that's now gone):
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc333/DF_3852/8.jpg

Now, on to Lorient:)
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc333/DF_3852/3-1.jpg

Inside the bunker:
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc333/DF_3852/7-1.jpg

Now this is what a U-Boot bunker roof looks like:
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc333/DF_3852/4-1.jpg

View from one of its flak towers:
http://i525.photobucket.com/albums/cc333/DF_3852/5-1.jpg

:salute:

[frau kaleun]

Awesome pics, thanks for sharing!

[August]

Whats on your A-list? Im also interested in the older ones.

Well it's not a formal list per se but in addition to those I mentioned already I'd like to visit these:

Agincourt
Arnhem and "Hells Highway" leading to it.
Aachen
Bannockburn
Ypres
Tannenberg
Stirling Bridge
Hastings
Austerlitz
Borodino
Hadrians Wall (I know, not a battle but I want to see it anyways)
Monte Casino
Mars-La-Tour
Marathon
Watling Street
Teutoburg Forest
Cannae
Syracuse

[Tweety]

Those are some great pictures.

Thanks for sharing