I'm philosophically against the death penalty, BUT..

[Torvald Von Mansee]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/01/25/scotus.killers.letter/

I'd pull the switch/pull the trigger/etc. on this guy and would sleep like a baby the next night.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Here's a link to another forum that has more information about what happened:

http://crimeshots.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5312

[XabbaRus]

Sick b@stard.

[August]

I feel the same way about the death penalty but i'd pull the trigger on that piece of human excrement as well.

[Tribesman]

I'd pull the switch/pull the trigger/etc. on this guy and would sleep like a baby the next night.
Why be kind to him?

[AVGWarhawk]

Yeah, he is a bag of sh*t.

[Castout]

There are many like him some even enjoying power . . .unchallenged accumulating wealth in the billions while pretending they are honorable men by wearing white shirts on state occasions for publicity stunts. The man's fault is that he did all this while not having enjoyed power.

Man's stupidity knows no bounds because it stems from their stupid pride which also knows no bounds. I'll say no more.

[Rilder]

I say we give this piece of trash a slow painful death.

[Tribesman]

I say we give this piece of trash a slow painful death.
Can you think of a better punishment for this white supremacist rapist than keeping him alive for a very long time while getting raped in prison by a succesion of his "racial inferiors"?

[kranz]

Sick b@stard.

i'd pull the trigger on that piece of human excrement as well.

Yeah, he is a bag of sh*t.

I say we give this piece of trash a slow painful death.

keeping him alive for a very long time while getting raped in prison by a succesion of his "racial inferiors"?

imo you stared into the abyss for too long....

[Weiss Pinguin]

Disagree. I think this is one person who's given up his right to live, if you ask me. I have to admit the sadistic part of me agrees with Tribesman on this.

[August]

imo you stared into the abyss for too long....

So you think that no human act, regardless of how heinous, justifies eliminating the perpetrator?

[OneToughHerring]

Is this the "dissect crimes and waddle in their seediness while at the same time pretending to achieve moral superiority by advocating the death penalty or in Tribesman's case male rape" - thread?

[kranz]

So you think that no human act, regardless of how heinous, justifies eliminating the perpetrator?

where do you see "eliminating" in "a slow painful death"(by Rilder) and "keeping him alive for a very long time while getting raped" (by Tribesman)? I can agree that putting yours, Xabba's descriptions with those two above into one sack was a little abuse but the tendency you showed is similar. I just see no difference between punishment and revenge in what you are saying. You want a medieval sense of justice in times of mobile phones.

[August]

where do you see "eliminating" in "a slow painful death"(by Rilder) and "keeping him alive for a very long time while getting raped" (by Tribesman)? I can agree that putting yours, Xabba's descriptions with those two above into one sack was a little abuse but the tendency you showed is similar. I just see no difference between punishment and revenge in what you are saying. You want a medieval sense of justice in times of mobile phones.

If I had a medieval sense of justice i'd be advocating putting that animal on the rack. All I was saying is that while I am normally against the death penalty i'd make an exception in his case. That's because there is absolutely no doubt about his guilt.

[Tribesman]

where do you see "eliminating" in "a slow painful death"(by Rilder) and "keeping him alive for a very long time while getting raped" (by Tribesman)?
My suggestion was because I oppose the death penalty.
Are you somehow saying that the outcome I suggested would not be fitting for this particular piece of scum?
If so can you explain why such a result would not be appropriate.

All I was saying is that while I am normally against the death penalty i'd make an exception in his case. That's because there is absolutely no doubt about his guilt.
Unfortunately thats nearly always the case, until people calm down and look.
The problem with the claim that "there is absolutely no doubt" when it comes to capital punishment is that again and again that phrase turns round and bites them on the arse at a later date.

[AVGWarhawk]

Can you think of a better punishment for this white supremacist rapist than keeping him alive for a very long time while getting raped in prison by a succesion of his "racial inferiors"?


You got something there but I would venture to guess there would be some sort of protection with the other supremacists. There are groups, gangs, whatever you want to call them.

[Tribesman]

You got something there but I would venture to guess there would be some sort of protection with the other supremacists.
As he appears to be a violent criminal he should be considered a threat even to the general prison population, so I would suggest solitary....but as a cost cutting measure make it solitary where he has to share a cell.
Though of course you can't make him share his solitary cell with a white supremacist as that would be rewarding him by placing him in his little whites only paradise.

[XabbaRus]

I just made a statement of fact.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

You got something there but I would venture to guess there would be some sort of protection with the other supremacists. There are groups, gangs, whatever you want to call them.

I'll bet O.J. Simpson has already got into a gang. If he didn't, I think we already would have heard about his prison murder.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

If I had a medieval sense of justice i'd be advocating putting that animal on the rack. All I was saying is that while I am normally against the death penalty i'd make an exception in his case. That's because there is absolutely no doubt about his guilt.

Heh. Humans are all primitive. Women like tall men. Why? Because tall men can see further to find prey for hunting in a hunting and gathering situation. In our modern world, we don't have to worry about food (well, most of us), and added height really is no longer as handy as it used to be. Yet women still like tall men. I guess it's the same deal w/vengeance.

[August]

Heh. Humans are all primitive. Women like tall men. Why? Because tall men can see further to find prey for hunting in a hunting and gathering situation. In our modern world, we don't have to worry about food (well, most of us), and added height really is no longer as handy as it used to be. Yet women still like tall men. I guess it's the same deal w/vengeance.

It's not vengeance Torvald. I don't want to see him tortured, just made dead before he can infect others.

[Weiss Pinguin]

Heh. Humans are all primitive. Women like tall men. Why? Because tall men can see further to find prey for hunting in a hunting and gathering situation. In our modern world, we don't have to worry about food (well, most of us), and added height really is no longer as handy as it used to be. Yet women still like tall men. I guess it's the same deal w/vengeance.
I always figured it was because shorter guys like me just didn't look as imposing. :p2:

[kranz]

For me being against death penalty is making NO exceptions. No matter what were the circumstances. What is more I wouldn't call him an animal-as far as I know even animals are not a cruel as humans. I would also not rely death penalty on the doubt of guilt or not. Tribesman: what you suggest is just cutting a hand for stealing, cutting the tongue for lying(this form of verb is probably wrong but u know what i mean). Simply it won't do. We would have to many invalids. Personally: the more cruel ways of punishing we make the more similar to "them" we become. The only difference is the so-called "law" that "allows" us to kill them and forbides them to kill us.

[Skybird]

Let's take bloody revenge! :yeah:

At least that'S what this thread smells like.

:hmmm: Determination not only is something different than emotional arousal and rage. Determination even has the absence of emotional arousal as a precondition.

[August]

as far as I know even animals are not a cruel as humans.

Obviously kranz you have never owned a cat. :)

[kranz]

Obviously kranz you have never owned a cat. :)
yeah, actually I haven't but once I had my leg "raped" by a dog:wah:

[Torvald Von Mansee]

It's not vengeance Torvald. I don't want to see him tortured, just made dead before he can infect others.


August: you know, whenever I hear someone say "Well, killing a murderer won't bring back the victim(s)" I always counter with "please list all the murderers that killed again after being executed."

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Appended to the above: when I say "murderer," I mean someone we know w/absolute certainty IS a murderer (like the guy who sparked this thread).

Btw, his execution date has been set for March 18th. He opted for, strangely enough, the electric chair!!! I guess we'll get some of our bloody vengeance, then, as that is almost certainly a really nasty way to go.

[kranz]

He opted for, strangely enough, the electric chair!!! I guess we'll get some of our bloody vengeance, then, as that is almost certainly a really nasty way to go.

yeah that's well fcked up. But actually according to this latest issues with lethal injection there is no good method. We can only imagine what happens after the shot and so on but those who were opposing d.penalty raised the question of possible pain inflicted. For me it's just crazy that you are able to decide how you want to die...:nope:

[August]

August: you know, whenever I hear someone say "Well, killing a murderer won't bring back the victim(s)" I always counter with "please list all the murderers that killed again after being executed."

Exactamundo my friend! My only real objection to the DP is it's use when the guilt of the accused is less than 100% certain (hence my lack of objections in this case).

[Torvald Von Mansee]

yeah that's well fcked up. But actually according to this latest issues with lethal injection there is no good method. We can only imagine what happens after the shot and so on but those who were opposing d.penalty raised the question of possible pain inflicted. For me it's just crazy that you are able to decide how you want to die...:nope:

Well...actually...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_asphyxiation

They could actually do that to a guy while he's sleeping while not telling him it's going to happen that particular night. He'll probably think he's having a weird dream before nothingness/whatever comes...

Exactamundo my friend! My only real objection to the DP is it's use when the guilt of the accused is less than 100% certain (hence my lack of objections in this case).

Oh, yes indeed!! I keep reading of death penalty cases where there was prosecutor misconduct or something else screwed up about the case in question. Also, there's also some rather obvious demographic disparities in who it's applied to. The only white millionaire I know of who was sentenced to death (Joseph Capano?) was able to get off death row.

That aside, don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Or pay the ultimate price, as the case may be.