Can someone lend us a sub???

[bookworm_020]

Out of six subs that the Australian Navy has, only one is fit for sea!:damn:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/navys-collins-class-fleet-reduced-to-one-working-submarine/story-e6frg6nf-1225823451926

[ETR3(SS)]

Wow that sucks. That really is another blow to your guys sub service. Maybe we could sell you a couple S-Boats or even a Gato for the time being. :haha:

[Bethune]

be glad youre country even has a sub that works :D

but yeah, that blows 1 out of 6 working, money problems?

[bookworm_020]

be glad youre country even has a sub that works :D

but yeah, that blows 1 out of 6 working, money problems?

No, more engineering and crew problems, than money. Even if they all worked, there isn't enough crew for all of them.

[krashkart]

Hrm.... :hmmm:

It seems to me that submarines are a very expensive defense asset. Wonder how the US will fare, given our current financial obligations to China.... :yeah:

*my thanks in advance to all [poorly trained] business people working for America's greatest financial institutions* :nope:

[JSLTIGER]

What's the matter? Run out of chewing gum to keep the water out? Sorry, I kid...

[Weiss Pinguin]

No, more engineering and crew problems, than money. Even if they all worked, there isn't enough crew for all of them.
Huh, I was under the impression that Australia's navy was decently well off in the submarine department. :hmmm: Guess I was a bit off the mark... 1 out of 6 is pretty appalling. :o

[Thunder]

You can have two of our , we're only using one...

We got the same $%$%^&:dead:

http://www.da.org.za/newsroom.htm?action=view-news-item&id=5849

Highlights:
The Navy has denied the allegations that they are unable to properly operate the submarines purchased as part of the R49bn arms procurement package. They insist that the submarines are not duds, that the SA Manthatisi is in dry dock as part of "normal naval procedure" and that it was normal naval procedure to rotate submarines.

the use of the four frigates we already have in our possession has been compromised by continuous skills and personnel shortages and they still need to undergo a substantial technical upgrade before they have the required land-attack and anti-submarine capabilities.

problem is not just limited to the Navy. For example, in the Air Force, there are only two Gripen aircraft in South Africa and none are yet operational, leaving South Africa without fighter capacity to defend our airspaces as the older Cheetahs have been decommissioned.

In addition, we do not have the pilots and navigators to man the aircraft.

[kiwi_2005]

I wouldn't feel too bad bookworm, NZ has none! :har: :nope:

[Jimbuna]

We have a one going spare in Merseyside but you'll need a few skilled welders :DL

[krashkart]

You can have two of our , we're only using one...

We got the same $%$%^&:dead:

http://www.da.org.za/newsroom.htm?action=view-news-item&id=5849

Highlights:
The Navy has denied the allegations that they are unable to properly operate the submarines purchased as part of the R49bn arms procurement package. They insist that the submarines are not duds, that the SA Manthatisi is in dry dock as part of "normal naval procedure" and that it was normal naval procedure to rotate submarines.

the use of the four frigates we already have in our possession has been compromised by continuous skills and personnel shortages and they still need to undergo a substantial technical upgrade before they have the required land-attack and anti-submarine capabilities.

problem is not just limited to the Navy. For example, in the Air Force, there are only two Gripen aircraft in South Africa and none are yet operational, leaving South Africa without fighter capacity to defend our airspaces as the older Cheetahs have been decommissioned.

In addition, we do not have the pilots and navigators to man the aircraft.

Ow, brings a tear to my eye to hear of that. :-? On the other hand, you do have Gripen fighters. Stateside we just have all the usual boring stuff. lol

[bookworm_020]

I wouldn't feel too bad bookworm, NZ has none! :har: :nope:

Submarines, Fighters or a defense force?:O:

[Jimbuna]

Submarines, Fighters or a defense force?:O:

Oh that was mean :DL

IIRC NZ were the first of the Commonwealth countries to offer us help (a loan of weaponry/platforms for home defence) during the Falklands campaign :hmmm:

[bookworm_020]

Oh that was mean :DL

I couldn't resist knocking a sitting kiwi of his perch!:DL

[Jimbuna]

I couldn't resist knocking a sitting kiwi of his perch!:DL

Like a clay pigeon I suppose :DL

[bookworm_020]

Like a clay pigeon I suppose :DL

And as any aussie will tell you, it's always open season!:D

[Highbury]

Although I make my home in the US most of the year I am from Canada.. we only have 4 as well. 70's/80's vintage ex-Upholder Class subs, now called Victoria Class.

One is operational, two were expected to be in service by late '09 but I haven't heard anything and the fourth is still undergoing a major overhaul after a fire happened onboard on the way back to Canada after receiving the ship in the UK. One sailor died (Lt(N) Chris Saunders) and the boat had to be sealifted back to Canada on a Norwegian ship. It is expected to re-enter service in 2012.

[Jimbuna]

Although I make my home in the US most of the year I am from Canada.. we only have 4 as well. 70's/80's vintage ex-Upholder Class subs, now called Victoria Class.

One is operational, two were expected to be in service by late '09 but I haven't heard anything and the fourth is still undergoing a major overhaul after a fire happened onboard on the way back to Canada after receiving the ship in the UK. One sailor died (Lt(N) Chris Saunders) and the boat had to be sealifted back to Canada on a Norwegian ship. It is expected to re-enter service in 2012.

Yes I remember that...a terrible tragedy :nope:

[TLAM Strike]

Maybe you folks down under should have bought a couple of Kilos! I mean even Iran is able to keep atleast one of those operational!

[bookworm_020]

Although I make my home in the US most of the year I am from Canada.. we only have 4 as well. 70's/80's vintage ex-Upholder Class subs, now called Victoria Class.

One is operational, two were expected to be in service by late '09 but I haven't heard anything and the fourth is still undergoing a major overhaul after a fire happened onboard on the way back to Canada after receiving the ship in the UK. One sailor died (Lt(N) Chris Saunders) and the boat had to be sealifted back to Canada on a Norwegian ship. It is expected to re-enter service in 2012.

Australia did look at buying the Upholder subs, as well as a modified version. The RAN went with the collins class instead