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razark

01-25-10, 01:32 PM

This for real? Nice...
Although the official guide looks 10 pages long.

That's scary. I remember when stuff like that, and more, would have been part of the manual. I dug up the .pdf manual for the original Silent Hunter recently. It describes the game and controls, a brief history of the sub campaign in the war, and then has an eleven page appendix with the recollections of a WWII skipper. Following that is a section on tactics, by the same commander. The final section is a write up, again by the commander, on the fire control problem and the equations needed to hit a target with a torpedo.

Basically, the manual has stuff that you would need to go hunt down on the internet these days.

Exclusive content in the game I find to be unfortunate. I'm also wondering if this iron box they mention is going to be shaped like a coffin.

Seeadler

01-25-10, 01:36 PM

I'm also wondering if this iron box they mention is going to be shaped like a coffin.
here is the box illustrated
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1014/sh5collectorsalesheet.jpg

Boris

01-25-10, 01:40 PM

Official guide and map???

Woooow, official guide. Looks like you have to pay extra to get a manual.
We got a map and a manual in the normal edition of SH3. What will the normal edition of SH5 have?

The music is easily ripped from the music folder. And 7 skins.... 7? There will be more than 7 skins out in the first week of modding.

Kapitanleutnant

01-25-10, 01:41 PM

What a pile of ****.

I wonder what fascinating insights the official guide will contain?

"Shoot the Battleship until its hitpoints reach 0. Then it'll sink!!"

"Dive to avoid aircraft!!"

IanC

01-25-10, 01:44 PM

That's scary. I remember when stuff like that, and more, would have been part of the manual. I dug up the .pdf manual for the original Silent Hunter recently. It describes the game and controls, a brief history of the sub campaign in the war, and then has an eleven page appendix with the recollections of a WWII skipper. Following that is a section on tactics, by the same commander. The final section is a write up, again by the commander, on the fire control problem and the equations needed to hit a target with a torpedo.

Basically, the manual has stuff that you would need to go hunt down on the internet these days.

Exclusive content in the game I find to be unfortunate. I'm also wondering if this iron box they mention is going to be shaped like a coffin.

Hear, hear! Nothing beats those old DOS game manuals. Even Silent Service for the Atari 800XL had a nice section on sub tactics if I remember correctly. Why those 200 page manuals turned into 50 I have no idea. Probably a money thing (as usual).
Nice idea about the coffin but a little morbid no? :lol:

HundertzehnGustav

01-25-10, 01:53 PM

Haaaahahahhahahahahhahahaha i am laughing SOOO hard!

That map i have had since 2005!

Oh UBI what did you do!
Every SHIII came with such a map!
Every SHIII came with a Manual!
And now i will have to pay extra?

*ponts (censored) finger at the Upper levels of the Ubisoft Hierarchy*

They did a Good Job doing the VII! But YOU, the Marketing guys with your Bling Bling Dollar Dollar attitude, you just pissed me Off big time!
I could EXPLODE!

*sits down and drinks a Beer with Urfisch*

*grrrmbl...*

selfhighfi

01-25-10, 01:59 PM

Looks Good I want it

flakmonkey

01-25-10, 02:06 PM

Is that supposed to be the "authentic" map??? We got the exact same map for free with regular copies of sh3!
Although if it comes in a nice steelbook case id probaby go for it, im a sucker for a nice box:up:

piri_reis

01-25-10, 02:07 PM

Yeah, contents are pretty sloppy.. And stuff that needed to be in the normal game package... :down:

IanC

01-25-10, 02:10 PM

Is that supposed to be the "authentic" map??? We got the exact same map for free with regular copies of sh3!

That's what I was trying to figure out. Can anybody tell if this map has the real life grids (like the Aces of the Deep map) or is it the same as SHIII?

JU_88

01-25-10, 02:11 PM

Normal version will do me fine - I never buy special additions of any game anyway. :woot:

Seeadler

01-25-10, 02:12 PM

Why those 200 page manuals turned into 50 I have no idea.
Quite simply, it no longer fits into today's DVD box formats :D
http://s10b.directupload.net/images/100125/qmzuzrlw.jpg

HundertzehnGustav

01-25-10, 02:14 PM

same as SHIII

they reprinted an old file on paper anhd are charging how much? 5 Bucks for that?

:yeah:

:nope::nope::nope:

IanC

01-25-10, 02:20 PM

Quite simply, it no longer fits into today's DVD box formats :D

Bring back the big box format then! It's worth it. :D

same as SHIII

Well that's a bit of a bummer.

razark

01-25-10, 02:23 PM

same as SHIII

they reprinted an old file on paper anhd are charging how much? 5 Bucks for that?

But, but but look! They had to get someone to update the logo! That's an all new, original logo! That's worth the price, isn't it?

Boris

01-25-10, 02:24 PM

Quite simply, it no longer fits into today's DVD box formats :D
http://s10b.directupload.net/images/100125/qmzuzrlw.jpg

Actually map and manual were inside the DVD case for SH3

Chef

01-25-10, 02:27 PM

That's what I was trying to figure out. Can anybody tell if this map has the real life grids (like the Aces of the Deep map) or is it the same as SHIII?
I still have my AoD patrol grid map. It looks much nicer than this one.

Hitman

01-25-10, 02:28 PM

Where can this special version be ordered?

The only thing really worth on it is the metal box; I have the Silent Hunter 4 one and despite it having a debatable paint scheme (Green!) I like it a lot. Will consider this special edition, but I'm certainly dissapointed about the extra content. :hmmm:

frau kaleun

01-25-10, 02:28 PM

Just a small point - the pic above indicates that the Collector's Edition includes all the things listed. That doesn't necessarily mean that the standard edition *excludes* all of them (i.e., the map, manual, or whatever that may have come with standard editions in the past), unless you've got an official release somewhere stating what does and doesn't come with it.

I have some "Collector's Edition" DVD sets and the only thing they have that the "non-collector" edition doesn't is the shiny metal box.

Méo

01-25-10, 02:31 PM

you just pissed me Off big time!
I could EXPLODE!

I'm always amazed how people here get SO angry SO easily. :nope:

It's just a game that we haven't play yet...

My taxes will not rise for this...

...and girls won't get uglier for this...

TDK1044

01-25-10, 02:37 PM

Ah, but there's also a video of Neal singing.....

Pants on the ground
Pants on the ground
Lookin’ like a fool with you pants on the ground
Gold in your mouth
Hat turned sideways, pants hit the ground
Call yourself a cool cat looking like a fool
Walking down town with yo pants on the ground

:DL

IanC

01-25-10, 02:37 PM

I'm always amazed how people here get SO angry SO easily. :nope:

It's just a game that we haven't play yet...

My taxes will not rise for this...

...and girls won't get uglier for this...

:har: Pheww... thank God for that.

HundertzehnGustav

01-25-10, 02:42 PM

perdu

01-25-10, 02:45 PM

if only the map was a REAL KM map like in the old aces of the deep......

Méo

01-25-10, 02:53 PM

@HundertzehnGustav

I didn't mean to insult you, and you're not the only one who's so much angry.
It's just that, personally, I don't get it.

When SHV will be release, I'll check some comments here and/or elsewhere, then I'll decide if I go for the collectors edition or the standard version. I'll make a choice, no one will be stealing me.

But you have the right to have you own opinion.

HundertzehnGustav

01-25-10, 03:08 PM

But all thoise people that do NOT know?
They will give money for an old map, no?
Ohhhhh.... grumble....

Webster

01-25-10, 03:14 PM

Meo what gets me angry is the fact that they want money for something they have not done a damn thing for.

that Jpeg file, printed with the SHIII logo, exists for 5 years now. They want cash and give nothing new.

THAT makes me angry because that is stealing everyones Money - everyone that has SHIII, and gets the edition to "support" the series.
In my eyes that is stealing.

i really really do get your point on this but they do own sh3 and if they want to offer old content taken from a past game then its better then not getting it at all.

yes i agree sh5 should be all new and done better because this is what we all want but if they want to just repackage and resell old content then i see it as someone buying sh5 who doesnt already own sh3 or sh4 has never seen it and it is new to them.

even if it is just a way ubi is keeping costs and developement time down. maybe this is how they justified it being cost effective to make sh5 in the first place but we will never know for sure.

Carotio

01-25-10, 03:20 PM

Isn't it quite obvious?

The regular version will have this:
-Silent hunter 5: Battle Of the Atlantic PC DVD-Rom
-Game manual
-Official guide, containing all in-game details
-Authentic map of the Battle Of the Atlantic

The collector edition will have this:
-Silent hunter 5: Battle Of the Atlantic PC DVD-Rom
-Game manual
-Official guide, containing all in-game details
-Authentic map of the Battle Of the Atlantic
-SH5 original Soundtrack
-7 unique submarine & enemy ship skins
-One iron box

I don't see/find it clarified any place, but I bet my big fat @$$ that it will be so.

HundertzehnGustav

01-25-10, 03:24 PM

*sad look*
webster, right there i see what i will get! Or what others will get!

oh man...

*even more sad look*

:cry:

sigh.

lets hope on the content of the Disks.

Méo

01-25-10, 05:16 PM

But all thoise people that do NOT know?

:06:

Nothing prevent them from informing themselves before making a purchase...

JScones

01-25-10, 05:43 PM

Official words from Ubisoft Germany
Content of collectors edition
<snip>Meh. I'm not seeing anything there to justify spending an extra AU$30 (I'm still trying to justify spending AU$90 to begin with).

That "authentic" map looks even less "authentic" than the SH3 map, and is certainly less "authentic" than the AoTD map.

Ginthis

01-25-10, 06:40 PM

I was holding off my preorder until I found out what the collectors edition was going to be all about. I like a good tin box for my games but other than that, I dont see much of anything to jump up and down about. :hmmm:

Most people already have that map from SH3. The music will already be on the game disc, and it probably wont be too hard to put that on a cd to listen to.
This official guide, I wont be surprised if its also in .pdf form that will be on all the game disks. And even if its not, oh well.

The only thing that peaks my intrest is the "7 unique sub and ship skins". I'm a sucker for good authentic U-boat camo patterns, but that's not quite enough incentive for me to bite.

No sale Ubisoft, I'm off to go preorder the standard copy through SubSim. :ping:

JScones

01-25-10, 06:43 PM

The only thing that peaks my intrest is the "7 unique sub and ship skins". I'm a sucker for good authentic U-boat camo patterns, but that's not quite enough incentive for me to bite.
IMHO wait a week or so after release and you will have way more than 7 unique sub and ship skins to choose from...and undoubtedly more authentic as well.

Gato76

01-25-10, 09:46 PM

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=1121062387&m=2881074728&r=2881074728#2881074728

Méo

01-25-10, 10:15 PM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160723

Gato76

01-25-10, 10:28 PM

Oops,old news,anyways they r 7 submarines in the game,hopefully the IX will be one of then :up:

Reece

01-25-10, 10:29 PM

I love the recognition manual!:03:

capthelm

01-25-10, 10:34 PM

i like it how much is the limited edition can we have prices

standard v limited

d@rk51d3

01-25-10, 10:35 PM

Not 7 subs................ 7 skins.

For dressing up your type VII, most probably.

Gato76

01-25-10, 10:39 PM

Not 7 subs................ 7 skins.

For dressing up your type VII, most probably.
:oops: damn that sucks

<Jason>

01-25-10, 11:33 PM

i dont care too much for the map, but the soundtrack and skins are cool. But does the standard version not come with a manual? By manual i mean, not a few pages saying "set up your boat at 90 degree angle from the enemy ship and lock and fire". something with tactics and how to use all the new interactive pieces in the boat as well as targeting system.....please :salute:

Cptn_Enth

01-25-10, 11:58 PM

Quite simply, it no longer fits into today's DVD box formats :D
http://s10b.directupload.net/images/100125/qmzuzrlw.jpg

Wow...yours came in paperback? My copy of Falcon 4.0 came in an 600+ page Looseleaf binder... :)

but yeah...gotta love the "Environmentally friendly packaging" :p

U-5000

01-26-10, 12:02 AM

Well I hope they have some sort of document telling about the mission editor in game. Do you think they are putting a mission editor in the game or not. I hope its a little more detailed then what they put in in sh3.

THE_MASK

01-26-10, 12:54 AM

Lets go to the subsim download section . Oh look here are 7 nice skins to download . Nice work .

tonschk

01-26-10, 01:05 AM

Looks Good I want it

me too :DL, I want the metal box for my SH5 :D

.

aandreei2002

01-26-10, 05:58 AM

Meo what gets me angry is the fact that they want money for something they have not done a damn thing for.

that Jpeg file, printed with the SHIII logo, exists for 5 years now. They want cash and give nothing new.

THAT makes me angry because that is stealing everyones Money - everyone that has SHIII, and gets the edition to "support" the series.
In my eyes that is stealing.

Haaaahahahhahahahahhahahaha i am laughing SOOO hard!

That map i have had since 2005!

Oh UBI what did you do!
Every SHIII came with such a map!
Every SHIII came with a Manual!
And now i will have to pay extra?

But, but but look! They had to get someone to update the logo! That's an all new, original logo! That's worth the price, isn't it?

Indeed. I'm dissapointed too. I mean, earth changed, continets shifted, right?. The world it's different since the 40`s. Also, why would they redo the same SH3 historical accurate shipping routes and lanes. I don't care they didn't changed. I want something else. Not to mention that the map seems bigger then the SH3 one. And what if it's a different map, to me it's the same, but just different. I really hate that.

And yes...it's irony!

The General

01-26-10, 06:16 AM

What a pile of ****!I don't think this kind of disrespectful comment is acceptable. I wish I were a moderator, 'cos I'd just suspend your access to this community and anybody else with a bad attitude and unrealistic sense of entitlement. Some of The Devs read this forum and I for one feel ashamed that they can see this kind of wholly unhelpful comment.

mariuszj1939

01-26-10, 06:31 AM

I love printed recognition manual in Collectors edition (like in SH4)

Reece

01-26-10, 06:58 AM

I don't think this kind of disrespectful comment is acceptable. I wish I were a moderator, 'cos I'd just suspend your access to this community and anybody else with a bad attitude and unrealistic sense of entitlement. Some of The Devs read this forum and I for one feel ashamed that they can see this kind of wholly unhelpful comment.Careful or you'll blow a fuse, you take it too seriously,:oops: we all have a right to comment, good or bad, right or wrong!:yep: So lighten up and have a laugh!!:up:

Kapitanleutnant

01-26-10, 07:04 AM

I don't think this kind of disrespectful comment is acceptable. I wish I were a moderator, 'cos I'd just suspend your access to this community and anybody else with a bad attitude and unrealistic sense of entitlement. Some of The Devs read this forum and I for one feel ashamed that they can see this kind of wholly unhelpful comment.

Protip: The developers don't choose the contents of the collector's edition. Ubisoft's marketing people do that. Calm down before you give yourself an embolism.

The General

01-26-10, 07:07 AM

@KaiptanLeutnant

I want you to delete your first post in this thread.

Kapitanleutnant

01-26-10, 07:15 AM

How about no. :|\\

IanC

01-26-10, 07:22 AM

How about no. :|\\

but it comes in a can

Kapitanleutnant

01-26-10, 07:25 AM

but it comes in a can
What have I been thinking? What have I done!?
Oh Dan, can you ever forgive me? :wah:

Reece

01-26-10, 07:50 AM

but it comes in a can
What have I been thinking? What have I done!?
Oh Dan, can you ever forgive me? :wah::har: Now that's funny!!:har:

FIREWALL

01-27-10, 11:02 PM

Imo the Collectors case should be in the shape of a Toilet. :yep:

Reece

01-27-10, 11:47 PM

:har::har:

ETR3(SS)

01-28-10, 12:08 AM

Soooo, if this box is made of iron...and iron rusts...is that part of the "realism" of the game? Your game boat can't rust but your collectors edition box can?:haha:

Kapteeni Rantala

01-28-10, 02:56 AM

I really don't see the point in all you people complaining. The content, while not mind bobbling, is pretty basic for a collectors edition: steelbook, soundtrack and exclusive DLC (skins in this case).

Reece

01-28-10, 03:14 AM

Reece

01-28-10, 03:15 AM

Oh I am naughty!!:oops:

Kapteeni Rantala

01-28-10, 03:23 AM

FIREWALL

01-28-10, 03:29 AM

:har::har:

Oh I am naughty!!:oops:

Naw He just hasn't had a chance to read some of the other threads yet.

SH5 is sinking faster than the Bismark. :har:

Kapteeni Rantala

01-28-10, 03:35 AM

That you people are pissed off about the DRM or something else has nothing to do with the collectors edition, which is basic with its content. I don't think Ubisoft ever promised something like; "We are going to release this massive collectors edition with Type VII model, art book, making of DVD, compass and so on" - would have been cool, but I don't complain because nothing mind bobbling was promised.

piri_reis

01-28-10, 03:35 AM

You obviously do not know that most collectors editions are pretty basic with their content, and that content goes along the basic lines. You seem to think that it is universal for collectors editions to be humongous with soundtracks, figurines/models, art books, making of DVD etc - and that is not the case.

Who the heck buys these so called collectors edition then? If the content is the same, just an iron box, wow, what a big deal.. It's so easy to fool kids today.
How hard is it to come up with stuff that would interest a real subsimmer? A real collector of this genre. For example an authentic stopwatch, or a real kriegsmarine map or something, anything historical...
There are publishers that do exactly that, sell interesting collectors packs.

But no, UBI has ZERO CREATIVITY. :down: