Latest Q and A nonsense from Ubisoft .

[THE_MASK]

Mindless Q and A nonsense from Ubisoft .

20.01.2010


Will it be possible to hear sounds like depth charge explosions and sinking ships (even whale songs?) with the hydrophone? This didn't work in SH3.

Negative on the whale songs, for now. However depth charges and sinking ships will most likely make it in, and overall we feel the hydrophone station / crew member will be more useful than in the previous games.


Will there be more atmospheric sound in the uboat compared to SH3? I'd like to hear some talking, laughing and snoring from time to time.

Since the player is free to roam in a 3D environment, that environment should be believable and immersive. Yes, those kinds of sounds are an important part for this and some of that will be seen / heard in the game.

[Nickolas]

basically they feel it's more important to listen when "Frenssen farts" than what's going outside of the sub?
after all they said you WILL hear the atmospheric sounds from within the uboat but the sound of depth charges will only "most likely make it in"



when Frenssen farts... get it? just like in Das Boot :haha: maybe you'll even be able to put an oxigen mask on...

[FIREWALL]

To me how the hydropne works as well as the Peri and Uzo are more important than having all the rivets in the right place if you get my drift. :yep:

[Uber Gruber]

Oh what exciting news! Sounds in the boat, I certainly wasn't expecting that! Just imagine, we'll be able to sit at the Sound Operators desk, put on some headphones and actually listen to the sounds of depth charges and boats sinking....I tell yer, the person who thought that baby up should get promoted right now! :salute:

[mookiemookie]

http://www.theodoresworld.net/pcfreezone/huhImage2.jpg

Whoever is asking these questions is brain dead.

[simsurfer]

[quote=maybe you'll even be able to put an oxigen mask on...[/quote]

Its only for show, for use in the shower.

[Hartmann]

A different game , more focused to the interior atmosphere and 3d enviroment

[THE_MASK]

I have first go to do a farting mod right .

[Ducimus]

However depth charges and sinking ships will most likely make it in,

Most likely?!? They didn't say, will, they said most likely. Which leaves room for doubt that it might not.

I will not be surpised if SH5 ships with the sonarman NOT vocalizing "Depth charges in the water" . They did that in SH3 as i understand (later patched), the did it again with SH4 (and they never fixed it, so now we have this depth charge splash warning mod to work around it instead), So don't be surprised if it remains broken.

[johan_d]

IF player.uboat.submersed AND destroyer.drops AND range.player.uboat.destroyer LT x THEN sound.play.wasserbomben:rock:

[jdkbph]

I have first go to do a farting mod right .


Outstanding.

:rotfl2:

Simply outstanding!

JD

[Ducimus]

IF player.uboat.submersed AND destroyer.drops AND range.player.uboat.destroyer LT x THEN sound.play.wasserbomben:rock:

If only it were that easy.

[pythos]

OH my God, Nothing satisfies you all does it. This is just ONE question session out of several.

The exterior sounds "might be making it in" is most likely due to programming problems, where having the interior sounds may be MUCH easier to impliment just due the nature of the coding required.

For crying out loud, give the devs a little credit.

Oh and please realize there are no stupid questions, just stupid answers.

These questioners had every right and reason to ask these questions, even if you would not have asked that.

[Ducimus]

The exterior sounds "might be making it in" is most likely due to programming problems, where having the interior sounds may be MUCH easier to impliment just due the nature of the coding required.



True, i acknowledge that. However, what i'm talking about is functionality/features that are basic requirements to a submarine simulation. These are bugs that, if they do indeed still exist, should have IMO, given TOP priority. There is absolutely no acceptable excuse to have problems that are basic to the sim to continue to exist after all this time - none what so ever.

[Nisgeis]

OH my God, Nothing satisfies you all does it. This is just ONE question session out of several.

Two questions :DL.

The exterior sounds "might be making it in" is most likely due to programming problems, where having the interior sounds may be MUCH easier to impliment just due the nature of the coding required.

For crying out loud, give the devs a little credit.

Oh and please realize there are no stupid questions, just stupid answers.

Well, I did give the devs a lot of credit and that credit more than covers sound effects. If they can't do sound effects in a sub sim, then... erm... duh? After all, it's the sound of the ships sinking and screws overhead that are important, not someone snoring in his bunk. The devs know that. If they can't get the sound of ships sinking or depth charges in the hydrophone, then they are just messing with us by saying it's a sim. I mean, unless... hang on, I'm having a vision... there are no depth charges or sinking ships... OH MY GOD! Then there would be no need for those sound effects. Imagine SH5, without sinking ships, cos there wasn't time to put them in! Oh wow, that explains everything.

Really pretty ships, with no damage models, so none of them sink. Because none of them sink, no need for breaking up noises, also they don't need to do ASW duty if ships can't be sunk, no ASW duty = no depth charges. It's all so clear now. Wow, those devs are really clever - removing all that unnecessary stuff like that. Really makes sense.

These questioners had every right and reason to ask these questions, even if you would not have asked that.

Yes, that's true, but the counter point to that is - These are the questions that they chose to answer, out of all the options they had available.

[Kapitanleutnant]

OH my God, Nothing satisfies you all does it. This is just ONE question session out of several.


Have you seen the QAs from the past few weeks? They've all been terrible.

[Nisgeis]

Have you seen the QAs from the past few weeks? They've all been terrible.

Exactly... Which would you answer, the soft question or the hard question.

[pythos]

KK, so how many of you have posted questions, and what have you posted.

I will be honest I have posted none,

Ubisoft be absolutely foolhardy to put out something as incomplete as SH4 was. I still remember the dives of death just because the boat got hit by a few bullets from a plane. Or how about the crew staying on the bridge and getting gacked by depth charges. That was entirely unacceptable, and never really worked on.

Has anyone asked about those bugs?

[capthelm]

OH my God, Nothing satisfies you all does it. This is just ONE question session out of several.

The exterior sounds "might be making it in" is most likely due to programming problems, where having the interior sounds may be MUCH easier to impliment just due the nature of the coding required.

For crying out loud, give the devs a little credit.

Oh and please realize there are no stupid questions, just stupid answers.

These questioners had every right and reason to ask these questions, even if you would not have asked that.

agree its getting out of hand in here . no respect whatsoever towards other members in here or dev team or ubi .

[karamazovnew]

Will it be possible to hear sounds like depth charge explosions and sinking ships (even whale songs?) with the hydrophone? This didn't work in SH3.

Really?! I thought SH3 featured those well (at least with GWX). A better question would've been "do depth charges create noise that hinder the active/passive sonar?". Oh well, "All will be revealed in March".

The second answer was a bit more important, nobody would like a silent sub (unless you order silent running) :O:

[oscar19681]

basically they feel it's more important to listen when "Frenssen farts" than what's going outside of the sub?
after all they said you WILL hear the atmospheric sounds from within the uboat but the sound of depth charges will only "most likely make it in"



when Frenssen farts... get it? just like in Das Boot :haha: maybe you'll even be able to put an oxigen mask on...

Well i found "Frenssen farts" the most interesting part of das boot! Dont you?

[Nickolas]

Well i found "Frenssen farts" the most interesting part of das boot! Dont you?

no, not at all. I personally love the scene when they surface to finish off one of the ships from the convoy.

anyhow, it was a joke... :shifty:

[oscar19681]

Mindless Q and A nonsense from Ubisoft .

20.01.2010


Will it be possible to hear sounds like depth charge explosions and sinking ships (even whale songs?) with the hydrophone? This didn't work in SH3.

Negative on the whale songs, for now. However depth charges and sinking ships will most likely make it in, and overall we feel the hydrophone station / crew member will be more useful than in the previous games.


Will there be more atmospheric sound in the uboat compared to SH3? I'd like to hear some talking, laughing and snoring from time to time.

Since the player is free to roam in a 3D environment, that environment should be believable and immersive. Yes, those kinds of sounds are an important part for this and some of that will be seen / heard in the game.

I wonder why they wont have whale sounds?

[TarJak]

No whales in game. Unlike GWX.:DL

[Kapitanleutnant]

KK, so how many of you have posted questions, and what have you posted.


I asked whether aircraft carriers would be able to launch their planes, and whether torpedo boats would be able to launch torpedoes. Neither question has been answered.
There are a lot of very good questions that have gone unanswered.

[Webster]

There are a lot of very good questions that have gone unanswered.

this is true but at this point it no longer matters because the game will be available for sale in 5 weeks so wait for accurate answers and avoid bad info or guestimates.

some things were told to us that they were in the game but are now known not to be in the game after all so even ubi has had things change since the first answers were given.

[Safe-Keeper]

OH my God, Nothing satisfies you all does it.That pretty much sums it up, yes.

It's a pity... this used to be such a fantastic community. Hope it will rise to its former glory again when SH5 comes out, the u-boats go out on patrol, and the modders get to work on their various projects:up:.

These are the questions that they chose to answer, out of all the options they had available. Given that the full interior of the u-boat is one of their major selling points, I'd think that questions about the interior of the u-boat would have some kind of, you know, priority.

Honestly still don't see the problem. I mean, how many of you hate Falcon 4.0 Allied Force because you can only fly variations of the F-16, with the plus side being a nearly 100% complete cockpit with every switch, button, dial and computer feature implemented? Lemme see a show of hands.:crickets:

[John Channing]

Listen to this man.

He makes a lot of sense

JCC

[Lanzfeld]

I mean, how many of you hate Falcon 4.0 Allied Force because you can only fly variations of the F-16, with the plus side being a nearly 100% complete cockpit with every switch, button, dial and computer feature implemented? Lemme see a show of hands.
:crickets:


You do make sense. I love Falcon and I like the idea of a study sim that focuses on detail and accurate systems.

The big question and worry, however, for me is that we have really no idea if there is ANY increase in detail or accuracy with anything in SHV. We may end up with a study sim with nothing to study! I have compared this to Falcon not simulating fuel. It just wouldnt be right. I dont mind the fact that we only have one u-boat type but it should be very detailed systems wise.

[Uber Gruber]

Which man ? The one with the long trousers or the other one in the corner with a pinacollada ? Be more specific man!

[Nisgeis]

Honestly still don't see the problem. I mean, how many of you hate Falcon 4.0 Allied Force because you can only fly variations of the F-16, with the plus side being a nearly 100% complete cockpit with every switch, button, dial and computer feature implemented? Lemme see a show of hands.:crickets:


Do you know the history of Falcon 4.0: Allied Force and the company that was formed to develop it? They were a group of modders who got a license to develop the orignal game and fix all the nasties. Is that what you think will happen with SH5?

[urfisch]

this is true but at this point it no longer matters because the game will be available for sale in 5 weeks so wait for accurate answers and avoid bad info or guestimates.

some things were told to us that they were in the game but are now known not to be in the game after all so even ubi has had things change since the first answers were given.

so, no more questions need to be answered? that means, some dumb, green and hopeful sim fans first need to buy this game, to give the missing answers??? i dont see the sense in your statement.

its cheeky, not to let us know, what is exspecting us - questions where asked more than enough. the mainstream may not care (but even they might be more interested, as one might think) about details. but that does not legitimate ubi, to make such a bad information policy.

i am a more ambitious customer, than most of the main folks and want to know, what i am buying for 50 bucks. its not like buying some icecream, which might be not that tasty, as i exspected.

[shmall]

OH my God, Nothing satisfies you all does it. This is just ONE question session out of several.

The exterior sounds "might be making it in" is most likely due to programming problems, where having the interior sounds may be MUCH easier to impliment just due the nature of the coding required.

For crying out loud, give the devs a little credit.

Oh and please realize there are no stupid questions, just stupid answers.

These questioners had every right and reason to ask these questions, even if you would not have asked that.


at last a good response :) and i totally agree with you :)

people seem to moan and moan on here even before anyone has even got/reviewed the full sim yet.

[Safe-Keeper]

Do you know the history of Falcon 4.0: Allied Force and the company that was formed to develop it?No. Does it matter?

so, no more questions need to be answered? that means, some dumb, green and hopeful sim fans first need to buy this game, to give the missing answers??? i dont see the sense in your statement.So now whoever is looking forward to the game (me included) is "dumb" and "green":shifty:? Thanks for the insult.

its cheeky, not to let us know, what is exspecting us - questions where asked more than enough.Yeah, it's incredibly unfair, considering the touching and admirable level of respect and maturity you're showing the devs in the first place.

[urfisch]

No. Does it matter?

So now whoever is looking forward to the game (me included) is "dumb" and "green":shifty:? Thanks for the insult.

Yeah, it's incredibly unfair, considering the touching and admirable level of respect and maturity you're showing the devs in the first place.

dumb and green, cause of nescience. what else are we all, who go and buy this game, without the informations, one needs to decide a buy.

and lol@the devs. who cares...they are just string puppets of ubisoft. really. lol @ the whole statement, lol @ the whole progress of this game.

[Safe-Keeper]

and lol@the devs. who cares...they are just string puppets of ubisoft. really. lol @ the whole statement, lol @ the whole progress of this game.OK, now you're just obviously trolling. Ignore list for you.

[HundertzehnGustav]

ay ay ay urfisch.

I understand your feelings (i guess) but please, come down back to earth. That lol'ing@everybody aint doin you no good, my friend.

Please consider taking some distance to SHV, do the dishes, relax with a Movie and take the wife up to cloud number seven. Multiple times. edit. Or the other way around.

after, its all way more relaxed.

I have been there yesterday, and a break, a shift of Viewpoint helped me.

*hands Urfish a Beer*

[urfisch]

thanks.

*drinkin beer...*
*relaxin in front of the tv*

[HundertzehnGustav]

:cool::up:

[Webster]

so, no more questions need to be answered? that means, some dumb, green and hopeful sim fans first need to buy this game, to give the missing answers??? i dont see the sense in your statement.

its cheeky, not to let us know, what is exspecting us - questions where asked more than enough. the mainstream may not care (but even they might be more interested, as one might think) about details. but that does not legitimate ubi, to make such a bad information policy.

i am a more ambitious customer, than most of the main folks and want to know, what i am buying for 50 bucks. its not like buying some icecream, which might be not that tasty, as i exspected.


it is obvious im saying you will have the game long before you get your questions answered from ubi so stop thinking they will finally answer your questions.

you can continue asking the questions if you want to but ubi has told us all they are going to at this point

so if ubi isnt telling you anything where else can you get the answers to your questions but from someone who has the game on their computer
(re: wait till someone buys it and they can answer your questions)

or you can call the phsycic hotline

[McBeck]

I hope the devs dont read this thread...they DO put alot of dedication into its creation and go into great lengths to make the best sim, but like so many other things they are restricted by boundries not under their control.

[pythos]

I second McBeth's notion.

[Highbury]

I second McBeth's notion.

You want to kill the King of Scotland?!

I like what McBeck had to say personally.... :haha:


(just teasin pythos!:up:)

[JScones]

Honestly still don't see the problem. I mean, how many of you hate Falcon 4.0 Allied Force because you can only fly variations of the F-16, with the plus side being a nearly 100% complete cockpit with every switch, button, dial and computer feature implemented? Lemme see a show of hands.
Absolutely no disagreement with this statement...assuming that SH5 turns out to be every bit as comprehensive as Falcon 4.0: AF. I have stated elsewhere that if SH5 turns out to be a proper study sim along the lines of Falcon 4.0 or similar games, then I think the majority of player concerns surrounding the one U-boat type will quickly disappear. Because for SH5 to achieve the same status as Falcon 4: AF, then all the major issues that have been raised over the last few years regarding the gameplay elements will have been addressed. I mean, one can't just limit the playable models to one to claim study sim status. ;)

If, however, SH5 turns out not to be a true study sim, then your comparison is apples and oranges: you may as well ask Lada drivers to stop complaining about having no air conditioning because their cars still have the same number of wheels as Rolls Royces. ;):doh:

Now remind me, how many pages is the Falcon 4.0: AF manual?

760 :shifty:

I think the ongoing comparisons to Falcon 4.0: AF need to stop until we can assess how detailed and comprehensive SH5 is with just the one U-boat type...and this means beyond the pretty 3D interior...only then can we be sure that we are comparing apples and apples.

so if ubi isnt telling you anything where else can you get the answers to your questions but from someone who has the game on their computer
(re: wait till someone buys it and they can answer your questions)

or you can call the phsycic hotline
Or wait for the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT? :hmmm:

[THE_MASK]

I hope the devs dont read this thread...they DO put alot of dedication into its creation and go into great lengths to make the best sim, but like so many other things they are restricted by boundries not under their control.
Who cares if they read it . Its about the quality of qanda aspertainstothe subsim member . I am not knocking the devs in any way shape or foem .

[McBeck]

Who cares if they read it . Its about the quality of qanda aspertainstothe subsim member . I am not knocking the devs in any way shape or foem .I care. I want them to be motivated to do their best in building this game. Some of these comments here would make me think "Why do I even bother working nights and weekends on this game - the community dont even acknowledges the effort the dev team puts in this"

[THE_MASK]

I care. I want them to be motivated to do their best in building this game. Some of these comments here would make me think "Why do I even bother working nights and weekends on this game - the community dont even acknowledges the effort the dev team puts in this"
I applaud what the devs have done . There qanda sucks bigtime .

[AVGWarhawk]

I have first go to do a farting mod right .


What kind of tone are you shooting for? Dry? Wet? Ewwwwww.....:-?