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Onkel Neal
01-20-10, 08:11 PM
Hey, have a look at this page: http://www.subsim.com/ssr/shells_fury.php (http://www.subsim.com/ssr/shells_fury.php)

Tell me if you see little boxes where the apostrophes go... I do. I'm trying to find out what is causing this, maybe a config file on the server, maybe my new PC, maybe my eyes are shot...

thanks!
Neal

Task Force
01-20-10, 08:12 PM
Yes, I do... ex
All machines are different and maybe I�ve been lucky.

Dowly
01-20-10, 08:14 PM
Ya, I see them too.

Letum
01-20-10, 08:14 PM
I see them.
Firefox 3.5 Vista64

ed: If you are fixing things; the mini screenshot image of the map gives a 404 when clicked on. Other images work fine.

Onkel Neal
01-20-10, 08:15 PM
Yes, I do... ex
All machines are different and maybe I�ve been lucky.

Ha. ha. ha. :haha:

GoldenRivet
01-20-10, 08:17 PM
Neal,

was this content pasted from an outside program like microsoft word where it was originally written?

if so, my website has done similar things when i have prepared information in microsoft office word and past the info into the site.

Onkel Neal
01-20-10, 08:18 PM
Neal,

was this content pasted from an outside program like microsoft word where it was originally written?

if so, my website has done similar things when i have prepared information in microsoft office word and past the info into the site.


That's possible, originally. But they rendered fine on the old server. I noticed this when we migrated last year but never got around to it.

Buddahaid
01-20-10, 08:24 PM
See'em as well.

VonHesse
01-20-10, 08:26 PM
Yes sir, I see it too. The apostrophes and the hyphens have been replaced with little boxes. I see things like that when I browse the web on my old cellphone, but never on an actual computer.

Weird. It doesn't recognize the apostrophes or hyphens, but all other punctuation marks (commas, quotations, semi-colons, etc.) are fine.

Wish i could be more helpful as to the cause. good luck:salute:

Oberon
01-20-10, 08:32 PM
Yeah, I see the buggers. Now, how do we take them out? :hmmm:

Raptor! Fetch the Nagant! :rock: I'll get my M-14...

Subnuts
01-20-10, 08:34 PM
I changed my browser's character encoding from Unicode to Western and the problem went away. :woot:

frau kaleun
01-20-10, 08:37 PM
I sees 'em too, as has been said above I've only noticed this kind of thing in the past with text that has been imported from Word or some such. No idea why it would suddenly "go bad" moving from one server to another though if it was okay initially.

MothBalls
01-20-10, 08:40 PM
It's the encoding. Need to fix your header.

Onkel Neal
01-20-10, 08:46 PM
Right, but I think the real solution lies in making the webpage work for the reader, otherwise I have to e-mail 4,266,092 people and ask them to change their browser settings.:shucks:

Buddahaid
01-20-10, 08:49 PM
Right, but I think the real solution lies in making the webpage work for the reader, otherwise I have to e-mail 4,266,092 people and ask them to change their browser settings.:shucks:

And..... :har:

MothBalls
01-20-10, 08:54 PM
Go here, http://validator.w3.org/ run that URL

if you use firefox;

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843

It'll show you what the errors are on the page.

GoldenRivet
01-20-10, 08:59 PM
Right, but I think the real solution lies in making the webpage work for the reader, otherwise I have to e-mail 4,266,092 people and ask them to change their browser settings.:shucks:

I'll help...

lets get started.

I'm going to need those e mail addresses when you get a chance. :o

Snestorm
01-20-10, 10:45 PM
Diamonds with question mark inside.

Reece
01-20-10, 11:00 PM
All shows correctly here, IE 6 and Firefox 2.0.0.4!:hmmm:

Ships-R-Us
01-20-10, 11:12 PM
Like Subnuts said, worked for me.........Do not email anyone. Hold the check you are giving the movers until they correct it.

Reaves
01-20-10, 11:31 PM
IE 8 worked with and without compat mode on.

Firefox 3.5.7 displayed the question marks.

I believe another posted had it correct, it may be caused by copy/pasting from a doc. If it was word there are format info that can cause this. Paste it to notepad then copy and paste back in. See if it works anyway...

Ships-R-Us
01-20-10, 11:41 PM
In Neals link in this thread the boxes were there....Viewing was Unicode.....Change to Western fixed that.....

SOMEBODY PLEASE ANSWER THIS ONE PLEASE: I just checked my email, I clicked on the link Neal sent out....I am in my inbox, Outlook Express, everything is as it should be, I check encoding and it is Unicode again............However displayed properly in my email........I am like most using IE8.........

What is the correct explanation!!!!!!!!!!

Sailor Steve
01-21-10, 01:31 AM
Aye, boxes I see
Where 'postrophes should be
It's not just thee
'Tis also me
Do I earn a fee
Or is this for free?

TarJak
01-21-10, 01:47 AM
:haha::haha:^^

Nice work Steve. Now you got me wish I'da thunka that one.

Ships-R-Us
01-21-10, 02:00 AM
In Neals link in this thread the boxes were there....Viewing was Unicode.....Change to Western fixed that.....

SOMEBODY PLEASE ANSWER THIS ONE PLEASE: I just checked my email, I clicked on the link Neal sent out....I am in my inbox, Outlook Express, everything is as it should be, I check encoding and it is Unicode again............However displayed properly in my email........I am like most using IE8.........

What is the correct explanation!!!!!!!!!!

Hello Again?

Spoon 11th
01-21-10, 03:18 AM
This page: http://www.subsim.com/ssr/shells_fury.php

is missing the

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" />

tag from the head section (or whatever is the right encoding for that page).

blind me!! it's there, but it's still wrong for some reason.


One solution I can suggest is how I've converted some of my pages from ISO-8859-1 into UTF-8 is:

Create new blank page with ISO-8859-1 encoding and then copy&paste the body section of the Shells of fury review page (which is currently windows-1252) into that new blank page and overwrite the old page.


One more edit:
w3 validator says the page is in utf-8, but the head section has tag: <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">

Skybird
01-21-10, 05:45 AM
Neal, I use to see these sometimes when there is a translation issue of text written on German keyboards put up in a place that "is English" in the widest technological meaning. the problem are special keys and the German "Umlaute" like ä, ö, ü, keyboards are obviously different here. There have been a number of reviews , also at tanksim and subsim, that first were displayed correctly for me, then after some months started to display the little boxes, and again months later eventually started to be displayed correctly again. The problem also showed up with the reviews I have written for you.

Maybe server-related, that they changed and switched some things!?

longam
01-21-10, 08:06 AM
Try changing this line
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
To this line

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">

Blood_splat
01-21-10, 08:11 AM
What�s the problem again? I can�t see any squares.

Tweety
01-21-10, 08:19 AM
Hello Neal,

I see the apostrophes and the hyphens have been replaced with little boxes.
I am using Firefox/2.0.0.11.

Tweety

Reece
01-21-10, 08:30 AM
Strange though how some have the problem and others don't, as I said fine on mine, mabe it's a windows version thing, I'm running XP Pro with FF 2.0.:hmmm:

Oberon
01-21-10, 08:41 AM
In before it's blamed on Obama :03:

VipertheSniper
01-21-10, 09:14 AM
On an unrelated note, I've the same issue with this page as with the SH5 Interview in Opera... I haven't tested it yet, but I guess it works fine in Firefox...

In Firefox it works, the boxes show up with little letters inside namely
FF
FD

I guess there were some apostrophes in the dev team interview too, but I don't think that one had boxes instead of apostrophes.
Just checked, works fine there.

frau kaleun
01-21-10, 09:50 AM
In before it's blamed on Obama :03:

In before Pat Robertson blames it on Neal's pact with Satan! :D

SteamWake
01-21-10, 11:32 AM
In before Pat Robertson blames it on Neal's pact with Satan! :D

In before Bush

Oberon
01-21-10, 12:01 PM
In before Bush

In before Clinton. :O:

Dowly
01-21-10, 12:03 PM
In before the spam... oops.. too late. :cry:

Oberon
01-21-10, 12:11 PM
combo breaker!

Dowly
01-21-10, 12:14 PM
Whahahaha! :D

FIREWALL
01-21-10, 12:16 PM
Don't see any boxes. Looks fine to me.

Jimbuna
01-21-10, 12:18 PM
Aye, boxes I see
Where 'postrophes should be
It's not just thee
'Tis also me
Do I earn a fee
Or is this for free?

Priceless :rotfl2:

Oh and I see boxes too :doh:

Onkel Neal
01-21-10, 12:21 PM
Ok, thanks guys, I am working on it.

Oberon
01-21-10, 12:33 PM
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/4666/motivator56020314d9dcbd.jpg

Dowly
01-21-10, 12:46 PM
^LMAO :haha:

Task Force
01-21-10, 01:10 PM
lol... good stuff...:rotfl2:

Onkel Neal
01-26-10, 08:01 AM
Fixed! :woot::woot::woot:

Dargo
01-26-10, 12:11 PM
Fixed! :woot::woot::woot:

And? What was the problem causing the boxes?

longam
01-26-10, 05:17 PM
And? What was the problem causing the boxes?

<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0">:haha:

Onkel Neal
01-26-10, 08:12 PM
And? What was the problem causing the boxes?


:haha: Probably what longam says:
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 5.0">:haha:

I usually type articles and review in Word and paste into Front Page. I needed to change the default character set used by the server from UTF-8 to ISO-8859-1 in the htaccess file, and I could not remember how I did it 5 years ago.

Sailor Steve
01-27-10, 01:56 PM
@ Oberon: Cool edit on that pick.

Except 'boxes' doesn't have an apostrophe.
:rotfl2:

Oberon
01-27-10, 07:13 PM
@ Oberon: Cool edit on that pick.

Except 'boxes' doesn't have an apostrophe.
:rotfl2:

Don't make me get Firewall on you now... :haha::03:

Jimbuna
01-29-10, 10:28 AM
and I could not remember how I did it 5 years ago.

Neal....I should imagine there are a great many of us here who can empathise with you :DL