Poll: I would like a 1944-45 add on for SH5 in the future.

[THE_MASK]

SH5 does not include the years 1944-45 which is ok by me but i would like in the future an add on to include the missing years .
Poll: I would like an 1943-45 add on for SH5 in the future.

There is no option to have 1944-45 in SH5 .

[Iron Budokan]

Definitely.

I would be much more inclined to get SH5 when it hit the shelves if I knew this content was in the pipeline.

[Tweety]

Definitely.

I would be much more inclined to get SH5 when it hit the shelves if I knew this content was in the pipeline.

I agree with this also.
I wold probably will just get the game anyways and hope a add on comes out later.

I like playing the series too much.

Tweety

[dcb]

Yes, if possible put on sale as early as this March, to complete the game - similar to what happened 2 years ago, when SH4 was sold directly bundled with its first patch, to make it remotely playable.

[Mikhayl]

The devs hinted in the interview that any eventual extra content will be tied to the initial sales and feedback of SH5, so we'll see :)

[Buddahaid]

I'd prefer other types first.

EDIT: with corresponding interiors, which is why I think the campaign is short now.

[HundertzehnGustav]

gimme a IX and i will do my best to get the late war stuff done as part of a Mod team.

[Hartmann]

The campaign is too short and the content very limited with no assurance of futures upgrades , Sh V can be a closed way with no future and heading to the consoles market

[Carotio]

The campaign is too short and the content very limited with no assurance of futures upgrades , Sh V can be a closed way with no future and heading to the consoles market

According to an interview, there's an iPhone version.
That just said it all... :-?

[GoldenRivet]

According to an interview, there's an iPhone version.
That just said it all... :-?

LOL

just like there is a cell phone version of the MOH and COD games!

i have seen it... it is a 2D side scroller for lack of a better description.

it is just a toy to play with on the go and has nothing remotely to do with simulation, historical accuracy etc.

[Onkel Neal]

I would like to buy SH5 and have the team who are experienced and dedicated in making great subsims (Ubisoft Romania) employed year round, creating more content and value for the game, releasing a nice expansion every 6 months. :yep: I would love it if SH5 was as realistic as SH3/4, with more features, and enhanced options to help casual gamers but also retain the great 100% realism features I love...and as a result, sell a million copies (100,000 to hardcore subsim guys, 900,000 to Sonic the hedgehog players). I would love that because then Ubisoft would pour more resources into the SH franchise, instead of it limping along due to lackluster sales.

[Webster]

not sure what you would really be doing from 1944-45 unless it was secret missions, special ops stuff since the ocean war was over

EDIT: i see in other threads there was a bit of tonnage sunk by u-boats after 1943 so i guess there is somewhat of a campaign left but its like one sub lost for every ship sunk

[timmyab]

I think that it's right to concentrate on the early war up to 1943, in fact it's one of the few things I've liked the sound of so far.After 1943 it was like shooting fish in a barrel for the allies.

[Hartmann]

Its better have until 1945, for the people who don´t play beyond 1943 it´s not a problem because is possible choose the moment to finish the campaign.

From the historic point of view, despite the low tonnage sunk , allies where forced to expend vast resources in ASW warfare.

But business is business and they can sell it for 50 $ and 50$ more for the ShV wolves of the indian or pacific Addon that finish the game .

it´s a risky movement for the SHV franchise because it turns to another direction and perhaps don´t like to the new public target and traditional sub simmers

[Uber Gruber]

I voted no. Why play the last 2 years of the war, far too difficult for a tonnage hoar like myself.:salute:

[Adriatico]

I would like to buy SH5 and have the team who are experienced and dedicated in making great subsims (Ubisoft Romania) employed year round, creating more content and value for the game, releasing a nice expansion every 6 months. :yep: I would love it if SH5 was as realistic as SH3/4, with more features, and enhanced options to help casual gamers but also retain the great 100% realism features I love...and as a result, sell a million copies (100,000 to hardcore subsim guys, 900,000 to Sonic the hedgehog players). I would love that because then Ubisoft would pour more resources into the SH franchise, instead of it limping along due to lackluster sales.
If there was less piracy in Eastern Europe and Asia, market of some 3-4.000.000 "black" players... we would already have another team making IX type... and third one making 44/45 campaign - all togather paid in advance by Ubi...
:yep:

[LiveGoat]

I voted yes for an addon. The last year or two of the war for a captain were less about glory for the fatherland and more about pure survival. The possibility that if I played my cards right and managed to keep the men alive long enough that the Reich would come to its senses and wave the white flag adds an element of tension and excitement to the campaign. Also it allows for roleplaying as the kaleun in ways that can't be programmed into the game. If I'm ordered by BdU to go on a suicide mission to stop a taskforce in Gibralter at the end of the war but I'm "roleplaying" the kaleun as a disillusioned man, fed up with the senseless sacrifice, I can take the option of steering my boat to an area where my chances of survival are better.

My fear is that SH5 may not allow for this kind of real roleplay action. And therein lies the problem with adding "RPG" elements into sims. No one can write a better story or character background for a sim than the player.

That said, all we can do is speculate and root for the devs to deliver us a winner. I vote for more rooting than speculating at this point.

Dammit, it's not even February yet!:wah:

[MH]

I vote that 43-45 campaign with allied abilities of that time is a must.
Add to it xxi uboat with acoustic torpedoes radars and you have all new game/sim.
It may be not historically correct but i dont care i think it would be much more fun than happy times.Kind of like early cold war technology warfare.:salute:

[Lord Justice]

Why play the last 2 years of the war, far too difficult for a tonnage hoar like myself.:salute: SirUber, i would have greatly agreed with you, but if there is to be an expansion (primarily based) on Sir Websters comments, regarding the Sneaky peaky side of simulation, then i shall embrace and welcome, the add on. Perhaps running silent a while, will stand good stead for sh 7, cold war release.;) (After Sh6, fairness to the pacific fans, of course.) I would warm very much to this idea, only having once completed the sim, and accumulated lots of tonnage and medals of course. SirSober my friend, i sway to Yes, but why no, not sure maybe, option on poll :06: None the less, a poll thread of worth.:salute: Good Day.
not sure what you would really be doing from 1944-45 unless it was secret missions, special ops stuff

[urfisch]

the poll is nonsense. the option "no, i want the addon to be modded" is missing. for me, i dont want to buy extras. "extras" which are no extras, but missing content.

this really is the wrong signal, to be ready to buy extra content. lets see, how modable the game is, and decide afterwards, if there needs to be content added. note: i said "added" and not "completed"...completing missing content.

;)

really nice interaction between boats and bdu, with shadowing and helping each other, attacking convois, helping in case a lack of fuel, or rescue missions for sunken boats, writing an own logbook, using the enigma for decoding reports, etc. -> coded elements and functions!!! this would be a great addon.

:yeah:

but not the unfinished years 43-45...

:stare:

[kptn_kaiserhof]

43-45 make it happen

why play ww2 battles when we cant see the end of the war

[Iron Budokan]

43-45 make it happen

why play ww2 battles when we cant see the end of the war

Because the Devs said those years are relatively unimportant. :nope:

[Mikhayl]

Because the Devs said those years are relatively unimportant. :nope:

Did they?

Dan: The game actually ends after Black May, which we feel is the real climax of the U-boat war. We tried to portray more carefully, in more detail, the golden years of the U-boar war and what has led up to the real Black May. Neal, If you remember a few months before May 1943, they had the highest scoring month in the war, and then just a month later, they lost the most submarines because the Allies introduced some real effective countermeasures against U-boats. And then Doenitz was forced to retreat his U-boats from the Atlantic because they never actually challenged the Allied sea powers the same way as before. So for now, we felt we wanted to concentrate on the early years and maybe later to give the same attention to the the late war years we think should come with some professional approach. For example, if you remember Silent
Hunter 3 we had the late war game with the Type XXI U-boat and everything, but we never actually did portray the Allied side of the anti-submarine warfare, as we should have. You know there are really advanced weapons that were used, like aircraft dropped torpedoes and magnetic anomaly detectors that if you wanted to do a real simulation of the late war years against U-boats, you gotta have those in. So, we don't want to just put on the box of the game 'oh, it's the whole war', it's the first part of the war really where we are concentrating.

[Sailor Steve]

not sure what you would really be doing from 1944-45 unless it was secret missions, special ops stuff since the ocean war was over

EDIT: i see in other threads there was a bit of tonnage sunk by u-boats after 1943 so i guess there is somewhat of a campaign left but its like one sub lost for every ship sunk

I voted no. Why play the last 2 years of the war, far too difficult for a tonnage hoar like myself.:salute:
I find that attitude interesting, since a huge number of people who didn't like or refused to play SH4 cited the fact that the American war got progressively easier, while the u-boat war got progressively harder, and that made it much more interesting. The real captains had to deal with it; why shouldn't we be able to if we want to? I'm not insisting, but the option would be nice. Or are you saying that you don't really want a sim, but a game, and nothing but a game?

[PL_Andrev]

Not good choice:

At 39-43 YOU are a hunter, in 43-45 you are hunted.

What is fun with escape to the depths all time, hour by hour? The Allies controlled the air, have aircrafts permanently in air, have seeking groups, high-trained escorts equipped with long range radars... This frustration is not the game - you want it?

Unless you mean a hunting uboats between 43-45 - and both game are DC2 vs. SH5 - it would be what I would like to see all my heart...

[Sailor Steve]

So you don't really care about the sim aspects either? You just want a game you can pwn every time?

[Jimbuna]

I'd like the missing years added as well as the missing U-boat types http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[Mud]

Addon 43-45 Gato class, historic enough for me :yep:

Mud

[JScones]

Of course I want an Add-on! I want to feel the change going from being the hunter to the hunted. I want to experience the different tactics, the different challenges.

If I always just wanted to be the hunter, I'll go play MW2 on wousy level (but not on MP, those 12 yr olds are really dexterous).

[Ducimus]

No i don't want to be nickle and dimed for an addon for the missing years (or missing boats). I want them INCLUDED out of the box. Period.

[JScones]

Yes, forgot that part in my post. :hmmm:

I want them out of the box too, but knowing they won't be, I won't be buying until they are...even if that means waiting for the budget "Gold Edition" version. :up:

[TarJak]

I thoroughly enjoy playing a SH3 Late 43-45 career if nothing else than having some newer toys like schnorkel and radar detection to play with. The challenge of survivng particularly if you attempt to interrupt the D-Day invasion fleet in GWX is a fantastic buzz for me.

It won't be everyone's cup of tea but the sense of acheivement of getting a long shot salvo hit on a fast moving, heavily protected target during this period is something that you have to experience to understand.

That and the great Allied air raids that GWX have modded into that period make for a brilliant gaming experience for when you want something different that the 1939/40 Happy Times turkey shoot.

Without these elements for me SH5 is going to be a bit less interesting though I'm sure there will be plenty of challenges that we are yet to see.

[Adriatico]

Surface crusing in war patrols... with sunsets and dawns is just my passion, and feeling of representing one war side at open endless ocean...

39-41 being hunter, lot of surface crusing
42-43 being fighter... some surface crusing
44-45 being hunted, closed 24h

But on the other side... there is a passion and fun - in surprising mighty US/UK navy in a late 44 ( lone wolf )

Personally I could live without the last part... 3d sub-interior and crew interaction - should be a part of your experience.
Closed 24h... you would be fed-up quite soon

[Gezoes]

I voted no. Why play the last 2 years of the war, far too difficult for a tonnage hoar like myself.:salute:

I'd like to make that choice myself instead of a game limiting me out of the box. Sandboxes is the way forward.

I did not expect this, at all, and I won't buy it on the spot now. I'll wait for players reviews and/or news of adding 1944 and 1945.

[urfisch]

I'd like to make that choice myself instead of a game limiting me out of the box. Sandboxes is the way forward.

I did not expect this, at all, and I won't buy it on the spot now. I'll wait for players reviews and/or news of adding 1944 and 1945.

last night i thought about:

"will i go and buy the game on march 2nd, just to see, how modable it is? dare, i would! but, no. i have to wait a few days and see, what others are saying. maybe its better to get a copy elsewhere, if its just for modding"

[andycaccia]

I will probably buy this thing when launched, because I love this franchise..but I realize perfectly that a serious review if the sim is necessary if you want to know if this SH5 is really worth your money..

[Snestorm]

Couldn't enter the poll, and I do not wish for a 1944-1945 add-on.
It should be included with the initial release, as should the other boat types.