When will you buy the game? [Archive] - SUBSIM Radio Room Forums

Carotio

01-20-10, 09:39 AM

EDIT:
new poll here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160854

Given that SH5 is a completely new game, which satisfies some, but dissapoint others, then let's get some numbers on the table.

1) I'll buy it asap no matter what.

2) I'll buy it, after having read the first user comments.

3) I'll not buy it, the uboat side ain't my favorite.

4) I'll buy it, just to support subsim games.

5) I'll buy it, if the dev team and ubisoft delay the release, in order to add the missing uboat types.

6) I'll buy it, if the dev team and ubisoft delay the release, in order to add the missing uboat types AND the rest of the war.

7) If released as planned, I'll buy it, once the price is reduced.

sweln

01-20-10, 10:02 AM

10 voters... yiha...

Lanzfeld

01-20-10, 10:05 AM

You should really have more "I will not buy it because..." options.

Carotio

01-20-10, 10:05 AM

10 voters... yiha...

Actually, 7. Sofar.
I intentionally made it a multi-choice, because maybe more than one of the reasons may influence our decisions...

Carotio

01-20-10, 10:08 AM

You should really have more "I will not buy it because..." options.

i'm open to have an extra option or two or three.
Like:
I'll not buy it because it lacks this or that

Write your suggestions and then maybe a moderator can add them to the choices, I couldn't see where to add extra choices after having posted the poll...

Buddahaid

01-20-10, 10:45 AM

Already pre-ordered on subsim. :salute:

ETR3(SS)

01-20-10, 10:51 AM

I'm no fan of U-boats so I won't be rushing out to buy it. I'll give it plenty of time to see what it develops into before considering it much later down the road. Also I'd have to save up the money to upgrade my computer first.

dcb

01-20-10, 03:55 PM

I voted "I'll buy it, after having read the first user comments."
Given the past history of the franchise, I'd like to make sure that it's at least playable when I'll get it. If early reviews say it's playable and brings at least some value for the money, I'll buy, otherwise I'll wait until it's fixed to a playable state. Even with the disappointing news (you know which ones:03: ) I still believe the SH series should be supported by every subsimmer. I don't see many sub simulations being developed these years...

AVGWarhawk

01-20-10, 04:04 PM

I will buy it straight away. :yeah:

V.C. Sniper

01-20-10, 04:23 PM

May buy it after seeing how 100% realism plays out after Neal puts up a video of him attacking a convoy just like wiht Silent Hunter 4.

Ducimus

01-20-10, 04:28 PM

I'll buy it....

A year or two after release when it hits the bargain bin and some supermod that includes the missing subs and campaign years, is far along in development.

Iron Budokan

01-20-10, 04:42 PM

I'll buy it after you guys test play it for a couple of weeks and render judgment. Frankly, I have some real concerns about how the game is structured as evidenced by some bothersome revelations in the interview.

Speaking for myself, I would rather have the entire war at my fingertips and other boats to play with. This immersive quality, imo, made SH3 have good re-playability factor. Ditto for SH4. So if UBI comes out with DLC or an expansion pack for SH5 which gives that extra content, then I would be more inclined to buy both parts of the game at one time.

But, no, at this moment (unless new information about the game is released and some of my concerns are addressed) I have absolutely no intention whatsoever of buying this game the day it hits the shelves. Sorry.

You see, to play this game I have to buy a brand new computer. My old one won't handle it. I'm prepared to make that monetary commitment, but only after I see how you guys react to the game. I trust the people here on Subsim, and I know you will give a fair judgment. It will also help if Neal gets a preview copy, which, though I have on evidence to the contrary, I suspect he will.

JScones

01-20-10, 06:06 PM

I'll buy it....

A year or two after release when it hits the bargain bin and some supermod that includes the missing subs and campaign years, is far along in development.
Ditto. :up:

Look, SH5 may be the greatest thing since sliced bread. But until these other aspects are adequately addressed (through modders, DLC, martians, I don't really care), I'm more than content with SH3/GWX3.

Carotio

01-20-10, 06:14 PM

Ditto. :up:

Look, SH5 may be the greatest thing since sliced bread. But until these other aspects are adequately addressed (through modders, DLC, martians, I don't really care), I'm more than content with SH3/GWX3.

I think it's quite rare I agree with you in full, but this is one of the cases. :yeah:
Let SH5 be with all types and in full, however it's achieved, and I'll buy it. :yep:
For now, SH3 and SH4 with the career element satisfy me.:rock:

Hartmann

01-20-10, 06:18 PM

I'll buy it....

A year or two after release when it hits the bargain bin and some supermod that includes the missing subs and campaign years, is far along in development.

I think the same, after some years when the mods add some interesting things

I will be using GWX and SH3 for very long time

capthelm

01-20-10, 06:22 PM

buying it as well soon as it hits the store xx
:rock:

Platapus

01-20-10, 06:31 PM

What is the difference between option 1 and 4?

Task Force

01-20-10, 06:34 PM

Ill but it after reading a review or two... Im not gonna skip it just cause there isnt everything I want in it...

Buddahaid

01-20-10, 06:35 PM

The thought occurred to me that by not buying until it "hits the bargain bin", is condemning the franchise by making the success boil down to new customers, that may crave exactly what the simulation-or-else crowd does not want. You know, the u-boat/wolfenstein game, which could be fun, but sell it as such. Sure, if the money is dear by all means wait, but otherwise buy and keep the faith.

Snestorm

01-20-10, 06:44 PM

#6

I'll buy it when the rest of the war, and the rest of the IIs and IXs are added, AND it all comes on one disk.

Priorities:
1: Type IX(A), IXB, IXC.
2: End of war.
3: The Type IIs

(If priorities #1 and #2 are met, I could easily be sold the game without Type IIs.
I have no interest in the Type XXI or the Type XXIII.)

StarFox

01-20-10, 06:46 PM

I'll buy it when I actually have money.....

V.C. Sniper

01-20-10, 06:59 PM

i dun care about when thte war ends or how many subs are in the game all i care about is if its going to be a simulation and that the interior of the sub is going to be realistic and immersive

Carotio

01-20-10, 07:19 PM

What is the difference between option 1 and 4?

1: you'll accept anything offered to you. Even if they cut it further down to just be U-96 on its last Das Boot patrol.
4: you'll buy it even though it doesn't fulfill all your expectations. But in the hope that by buying, they will offer you more content later. To buy too of course.

Multi choice is allowed, vote both if that feels suitable for you.

The thought occurred to me that by not buying until it "hits the bargain bin", is condemning the franchise by making the success boil down to new customers, that may crave exactly what the simulation-or-else crowd does not want. You know, the u-boat/wolfenstein game, which could be fun, but sell it as such. Sure, if the money is dear by all means wait, but otherwise buy and keep the faith.

If that's the outcome, so be it. That is for ubisoft. As someone else stated somewhere in here. What if Ubisoft gives up and abandons the underwater world? Does the possibility of another company picking the genre up not exist? Maybe not right away, but eventually, then why not? Maybe a producer who will listen more.
Btw, SH5 as it looks right now, it's exactly that: uboat-wolfenstein as you put it. Das Boot in a video game.

Quite a lot of you speak of a 50$ game. That's 263.31 DKK in my currency, but that's not the usual price for new games here. More likely it will appear at the usual price of 399 or 395 DKK for new games, and that's 75 $. Welcome to my world.:-?

JScones

01-20-10, 07:29 PM

Quite a lot of you speak of a 50$ game. That's 263.31 DKK in my currency, but that's not the usual price for new games here. More likely it will appear at the usual price of 399 or 395 DKK for new games, and that's 75 $. Welcome to my world.:-?
AU$89.95 here...which is US$82. I wonder how many people would think a bit differently if they were expected to pay $82 for SH5 rather than $50. :hmmm:

Add-ons like UBM are usually AU$49.95, or US$46.00...that's near what the Americans are paying for the game itself!

Maybe a topic for a new thread - how much would you pay for SH5 as it currently stands?

Buddahaid

01-20-10, 07:49 PM

It depends on your your market norms. If I recall, SH4 was $78.00 US when it debuted.

TarJak

01-20-10, 08:56 PM

I'm planning to see what is said about it here first, then if it's as bad as SH4 was I'll wait until it hits the bargain bins. If the word is positive I'll probably buy it earlier. I'm in the same economy as JScones and $90-$100 is the norm for a new release game.

The missing pieces for me will be how sustainable the game play is. If it is playable beyond 6 months then I'll consider the $100 a worthy investment if not, it will be on the shelf with some similar poor investments I've made in the past.

Sailor Steve

01-21-10, 01:03 AM

I'll pre-order it, as Neal suggested, a couple of weeks before release. It may be months before I can come up with a computer that will run it, but I trust Dan and his team.

What is the difference between option 1 and 4?
Option 1 is a statement. Option 4 is a reason for that statement. I voted for both.

Nimmo55

01-21-10, 06:45 AM

I'm definately going to wait and see. No way will I buy it if they have dumbed it down and not at least included all the realism bits of SH3/SH4,,,and then improved upon it. Instead, I'll trawl these forums to see what the verdict is...you guys will know a good simulation from an average 'game'...so if the concensus is good, I'll buy...if not, I'll definately wait until the modders do their thing on it and make it a reasonable buy. Not as if there isn't plenty of other stuff to keep me entertained and I am patient. Besides, SH3 and GWX is more than enough to be getting on with...

Nimmo55 :hmmm:

Adriatico

01-21-10, 09:07 AM

Being a hopeless subsim maniac... just can't help myself... I'll buy even empty SHV box...;)

BUT I'LL CONTINUE BITCHING ON THINGS THAT WE DESERVE:wah:

All togather... I feel there is too much noise of BUYING and ECONOMY (too much western mentality) and real issues are:
- given capacity of Dev team
- given time and dates
- various wishes of passionate subsimers (including me)
- efort, energy and human limits needed to produce something new and satisfy everybody at the same time

F**k the Ubi... can't we have a pole: Do you think that Devs did their best, to the limits of their mental and physical energy - to satisfy hungry simmers community ?
:know:

Apos

01-21-10, 12:20 PM

I'm going first to check game, demo, gameplay videos, reviews. 40 or 50 euro for game is much money in Poland and i dont want to spend them for poor console product game. I'd prefer stay with SHIII+GWX or Modded SHIV.

The General

01-21-10, 12:29 PM

Kapitanleutnant

01-21-10, 12:53 PM

Just because people can that doesn't mean they are obligated to pay full price for a stripped-down half game.

Carotio

01-21-10, 12:59 PM

How can you honestly say you're a Subsim fan and not buy this ASAP?! I want everyone in this community to pay full-price so that there's a better chance of another sequel. If you can afford a computer to run SH5, you can afford the full-price.

How can someone honestly say you're a Subsim fan and settle for half a game for full price, and not demand the full game?
You can demand all you want from the rest of us, but it's not only a question of being able to afford it. It certainly is for some/a lot, but the most important matter is that a lot consider it to be half a game: only one type instead of 3 or 4 and not the entire war.

If ubisoft delivers half a product, they better expect half income. Give the dev team more time to at least add the II and IX. And they can then concentrate on the late war later with more types and extra technology in an add on. Only then, is it acceptable to me.

Lanzfeld

01-21-10, 12:59 PM

Deep Dive

01-21-10, 12:59 PM

I will buy one copy ASAP :88)

If it is good i will buy some more as gifts to friends :D

The General

01-21-10, 01:03 PM

@Carotio and Kaptainleutant

I think you two should play the game before you claim it's a half a game. The Devs have said there is way more content and depth than ever before and I believe it! It'll be very hard to make it to May 1943 without dying alot, it'll keep you going for months and that's not including Multiplayer. A game that keeps you entertained for months is all that you can realistically hope for.

@Lanzfield

Each sequel has gotten better, to claim otherwise is asinine.

FIREWALL

01-21-10, 01:05 PM

When Hell freezes over and it's in the Ebay bargain bin.

The General

01-21-10, 01:09 PM

When Hell freezes over and it's in the Ebay bargain bin.Huh? You have SIlent Hunter V in your signature!

Carotio

01-21-10, 01:14 PM

@Carotio and Kaptainleutant

I think you two should play the game before you claim it's a half a game. The Devs have said there is way more content and depth than ever before and I believe it!

I saw a preview of the game at the Copenhagen Meet, so I KNOW there's new content, and I liked what I saw. :yep: No doubt there.

But still, focusing entirely on ONE uboat type still makes it valid to call it half a game. And if a substantial large group of the potential customers think that way, I would say, the producer should really rethink the strategies and investments and maybe consider a longer development time.

Then let me ask you: what if they truely said: Because of numerous constructive criticism, we have decided to postpone the release till December 2010 to add more content. We're going to build in the types II and IX too.
Would you survive it if you then had to wait longer and pay a little more, because they had to spend more money for the development?

I think I would, and I also think others would.
And I sincerely think, they would gain many more customers paying the full price.

Kapitanleutnant

01-21-10, 01:19 PM

@Carotio and Kaptainleutant
I think you two should play the game before you claim it's a half a game.

One doesn't need to play it to know that two of the three most common boat types are missing, and that the entire last third of the war is simply not there.

And what makes it worse is that Ubi are touting these things as "features".
If they'd just came out and said "sorry guys, we didn't have the time or resources to do this" I'd be much less offended. Instead they're trying to act like this was their big plan and that by cutting features they can focus on what's left - not that they can even get the Type VII modelled correctly if the threads here are anything to go by.

The General

01-21-10, 01:22 PM

Kapitanleutnant

01-21-10, 01:24 PM

Price is not an issue. I am simply exercising my right as a consumer to not purchase a product that will not meet my expectations. What's the big deal?

edit: That's not to say I won't ever buy it. I probably will, just a year down the line, depending on what content is available at that point.

The General

01-21-10, 01:32 PM

Kapitanleutnant

01-21-10, 01:36 PM

If Ubisoft don't make a profit with this there are NO MORE SUBSIMS!
Yeah... not so much. Silent Hunter is not "the genre", as I've said elsewhere. It is the dominant franchise in a very niche market. If the SH series folded tomorrow, another developer would eventually move in to exploit the gap. It might take 5 years, it might take 10, but it would happen without question.
I'm not prepared to reinforce bad habits on Ubisoft's part out of some sense of loyalty or obligation.
And you know, Silent Hunter 3 is still here, it's still incredible, and it's still being actively modded. Why, just take a look in the mods forum - right now there's work being done on a fully modelled interior engine room! In 2010! Incredible! I don't feel any pressing need to downgrade to a game featuring only Type VIIs and 2/3rds of the war. I'm sure Ubi won't miss my £45 either.

Iron Budokan

01-21-10, 01:44 PM

Just because people can that doesn't mean they are obligated to pay full price for a stripped-down half game.

Exactly.

Iron Budokan

01-21-10, 01:54 PM

And what makes it worse is that Ubi are touting these things as "features".
If they'd just came out and said "sorry guys, we didn't have the time or resources to do this" I'd be much less offended. Instead they're trying to act like this was their big plan and that by cutting features they can focus on what's left - not that they can even get the Type VII modelled correctly if the threads here are anything to go by.

This is my main concern as well. I spent last night wondering if I was too harsh yesterday when I learned the game was going to end in 1943. I decided, no, if anything I went way too easy on UBI.

If they had come out and said, "Guys, we simply don't have the money or the resources allocated to render the entire war, but this is what we've done, because we want to get at least one aspect right. Oh, and we do hope in the future we can have additional content to finish out the war. We can't make promises, but it is our fervent hope this will be done." Then, okay, I think a lot more people, including myself, would be onboard with that.

But that's not what they did.

They just came out and told a bunch of hardcore subsimmers, "Meh, the war is pretty much over in 1943 anyway so live with it." Instead of explaining the reason, they just blew it off like it wasn't important.

It wasn't what they did: cutting the game off in '43. If there were budgetary problems then we would all understand that. That's business. Get over it.

It's HOW they did it that rankles. It was their patronizing attitude in the interview that we're too ignorant to understand the war materiel dynamics of the Battle of the Atlantic that jerked my chain the wrong way. And, no, I'm not the only one who feels this way.

Ragtag

01-21-10, 03:16 PM

I will buy not matter what for 2 reasons.

1. Support the Romanian developer to continue keeping subgames alive.
2. I will have fun with the game as i did with all the previous games. With or without flaws.

I get loads of entertainment and more hours of fun for a small amount of money, compared to other forms of entertainment like movies, dvds or even conserts.

JU_88

01-21-10, 03:22 PM

Still buying it as planned, the lack of the later years and addititional sub types is a major blow, but not the end of the world either.
Im not gonna knock it until ive tried it.. It could still be a great experience as is.
Anyway - I have made far more riskier game puchases in the past
PT boats anyone?

Jimbuna

01-21-10, 03:30 PM

Still buying it as planned, the lack of the later years and additition sub types is major blow, but not the end of the world either.
Im not gonna knock it until ive tried it.. It could still be a great experience as is.
Anyway - I have made far more riskier game puchases in the past
PT boats anyone?

Pretty similar thought process/opinion....apart from 'PT Boats' :DL

FIREWALL

01-21-10, 03:37 PM

Huh? You have SIlent Hunter V in your signature!

That's because I had hoped for the best.

Sadly that's not to happen.

Will remove from Sig. :salute:

The General

01-21-10, 04:03 PM

That's because I had hoped for the best.

Sadly that's not to happen.

Will remove from Sig. :salute:Shouldn't you atleast play the game first?

Apos

01-21-10, 04:16 PM

40 Euros is nothing for software of this calibre. Look at what people pay for the average PS3 game! Watch a few reviews for these PS3 games and you'll realise that the mojrity can be completed within a day! SH5 will keep you entertained for months!!! All for a lousy 40 euros. Other U-boat types will either be added by expansion Packs or by the Modding Community. Go play SH3 after playing SH5 and you'll find it looks very dated. You will simply never play SH3 again.

Well maybe for you 40 euro its nothing. Here where I live it is a lot. I dont blame developer but my goverment and currency rules. believe 40 euro it is 170-180 PLN = 1/10 of average salary. I believe in your country 40 euro is about 1/80 of average salary.

Anyway as some guys said above. I wont pay full price for console product for PC.

JScones

01-21-10, 10:03 PM

@Kapitanleutnant & Iron Budokan: Agreed to all posts. :up:

TarJak

01-21-10, 10:21 PM

SH5 will keep you entertained for months!!! ...
Go play SH3 after playing SH5 and you'll find it looks very dated. You will simply never play SH3 again.
How can you KNOW this for a game that nobody has seen? I played SH4 for about 3 weeks before shelving it almost permanently as a bad joke. I didn't like the graphical "upgrade", the GUI and crew managment was less than optimal and honestly the game in either U-boat or Fleet boat guises was for me a real let down. Luckily I didn't spend the $99 that it cost when it was first released here.

SH2 I played for even less time because of the dog it was.

SH1 and SH3 on the other hand I've had months of enjoyment from each game.

IF SH5 holds any interest for me and I like playing it, then I get months of enjoyment from it, only THEN will we KNOW that the investment was worthwhile or not.

JScones

01-21-10, 10:26 PM

I also like the hypocrisy of statements like "I think you two should play the game before you claim it's a half a game." and "Shouldn't you at least play the game first" followed by "SH5 will keep you entertained for months!!!" and "Go play SH3 after playing SH5 and you'll find it looks very dated. You will simply never play SH3 again.". Uh huh. Spoken from a true source of authority. :roll:

Reece

01-21-10, 10:45 PM

When will you buy the game?Probably not until after release and read others opinion/comments here on Subsim, certainly doesn't look promising, after SH4 + UBM comes the old saying "Once bitten twice shy"!:x

Carotio

01-25-10, 03:27 PM

Now that March 4th is the official release date, and the content of the collectors edition revealed officially, I'm going to bump this thread to ask you again. For those of you having not voted yet. :03:

unterseemann

01-25-10, 04:16 PM

This is my main concern as well. I spent last night wondering if I was too harsh yesterday when I learned the game was going to end in 1943. I decided, no, if anything I went way too easy on UBI.

If they had come out and said, "Guys, we simply don't have the money or the resources allocated to render the entire war, but this is what we've done, because we want to get at least one aspect right. Oh, and we do hope in the future we can have additional content to finish out the war. We can't make promises, but it is our fervent hope this will be done." Then, okay, I think a lot more people, including myself, would be onboard with that.

But that's not what they did.

They just came out and told a bunch of hardcore subsimmers, "Meh, the war is pretty much over in 1943 anyway so live with it." Instead of explaining the reason, they just blew it off like it wasn't important.

It wasn't what they did: cutting the game off in '43. If there were budgetary problems then we would all understand that. That's business. Get over it.

It's HOW they did it that rankles. It was their patronizing attitude in the interview that we're too ignorant to understand the war materiel dynamics of the Battle of the Atlantic that jerked my chain the wrong way. And, no, I'm not the only one who feels this way.

+1 :DL

Carotio

01-26-10, 12:23 PM

How many of you having voted "I'll buy it asap no matter what." reconsider given that SH5 will be a DRM online verification game?
Just curious...

Kapitanleutnant

01-26-10, 12:28 PM

I think somebody should make a new poll with just two options ('yes I will' or 'no I won't'). Now that all the information is out there people are fully equipped to make a final decision.

Gatt

01-26-10, 12:42 PM

How many of you having voted "I'll buy it asap no matter what." reconsider given that SH5 will be a DRM online verification game?
Just curious...

Argh, I cant vote. But I canceled my pre-order :nope:

MaciejK

01-26-10, 12:51 PM

I don't understand how you can afford to be picky? There are no other subsims in this league! If Ubisoft don't make a profit with this there are NO MORE SUBSIMS! I wish there were other competitors out there forcing Ubisoft to raise their game, but there isn't.

Haha, now that sounds like a UbiPropaganda Dept:

"If we make no profit with our new release of SH 2 and 1/2 we shall never release a subsim again, and you will have to play SH3 and 4 till the end of eternity and one day longer!!!"

Sure, there are no other subsims in this league. But does that mean that Sh5 should be bought no matter what? Even if it turns out to be a half-finished console product?

And I canceled my preorder as well. I've learned my lesson with SH3 and 4. Until modders really repaired the games they were really betas.

Task Force

01-26-10, 12:51 PM

yea, I voted i would wait and see reviews, but after that news, Im probably not gonna get it...

GET IT RIGHT UBI!!!!!!!!!!!:shifty:

Webster

01-26-10, 01:10 PM

How many of you having voted "I'll buy it asap no matter what." reconsider given that SH5 will be a DRM online verification game?
Just curious...

someone else started a new thread and new poll to reask the question now that ubi has announced sh5 is online play and online saves only.

i think most people who have already voted (including me) will have something different to say :yep:

thats an absolute no sale no way no how for me, i see sh5 heading straight to the $5 bargin bin now :dead:

Jimbuna

01-26-10, 05:37 PM

I'm giving it a few days for the dust to settle then see if there are any more 'suprise' announcements forthcoming :hmmm:

Jan Kyster

01-26-10, 06:06 PM

How many of you having voted "I'll buy it asap no matter what." reconsider given that SH5 will be a DRM online verification game?
Just curious...Guilty! :D but can't change my vote?

I didn't mind the irrelevant and minute details like war ending in 43, "only" 1 sub etc. as I considered SH V to be a new exciting template to fill... but this DRM thing? I wouldn't mind going online to activate and register SHV, but can't live with being demanded to stay online all time and keep my saves on others servers. It will cause trouble...

Preorder cancelled.

Funny that Apple dropped DRM because “I think the writing was on the wall, both for Apple and the labels, that basically consumers were not going to put up with D.R.M. anymore,” http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/technology/companies/07apple.html

HundertzehnGustav

01-26-10, 06:24 PM

This poll is Outlived now - make another please, and add some more options...

Reece

01-26-10, 07:13 PM

Update! at the moment .. Never!!:doh::down:

Webster

01-26-10, 07:35 PM

This poll is Outlived now - make another please, and add some more options...

there is already a new poll stickied

Letum

01-26-10, 07:38 PM

there is already a new poll stickied

?? that one is about DRM, not when we are buying the game.

XLjedi

01-26-10, 07:41 PM

Uh ohh... did someone say it's a steam-type DRM? :hmmm:

I have to admit, that gives me pause. :nope:

I would've said that I'd be happy to pay $50 for a release day purchase same as SH4, but if it's another steam title... Maybe there'll be a gold or platinum version some day without the DRM.

Webster

01-26-10, 07:51 PM

Uh ohh... did someone say it's a steam-type DRM? :hmmm:

i think they just said it was being advertised at the steam site implying it would be sold through steam with the speculation/hope that it's a steam-type DRM

@ Lectum yes its "Will the DRM affect your Purchase" so its not exactly the same but at this point isnt THAT the key question

@ carotio if you want to start a new thread and pole on this then thats cool with me, but i dont see the need for it (ps - polls cant be reset or deleted)

Letum

01-26-10, 07:58 PM

i think they just said it was being advertised at the steam site implying it would be sold through steam with the speculation/hope that it's a steam-type DRM

Most games sold on steam and not on steam keep their DRM the same on both.

For example; games that where released off steam with starforce where
released on steam with starforce also (in cases where the game was
released on both platforms simultaneously.

Safe-Keeper

01-26-10, 08:06 PM

I'm not ecstatic, but I'll buy it. I will read some reviews first, though, but they'll probably not deter me.

Carotio

01-27-10, 04:18 AM

@ carotio if you want to start a new thread and pole on this then thats cool with me, but i dont see the need for it (ps - polls cant be reset or deleted)

Yeah, I know. I can edit the first post, but not reset the poll. I will make a new one later, write the link in this post and then you can close the thread.

urfisch

01-27-10, 04:48 AM

I'm not ecstatic, but I'll buy it. I will read some reviews first, though, but they'll probably not deter me.

remember: you are not allowed to sell the game, in case of not liking it. might be an expensive test...

Carotio

01-27-10, 01:05 PM

new poll here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160854

this thread can be closed now. Thanks. :yeah:

kingsleyben

01-31-10, 08:32 AM

How can you honestly say you're a Subsim fan and not buy this ASAP?! I want everyone in this community to pay full-price so that there's a better chance of another sequel. If you can afford a computer to run SH5, you can afford the full-price.

I'm a Subsim fan but if this game uses DRM, I won't buy it. And I hope that twice as many people pirate this game to teach Ubisoft a lesson. DRM is completely retarded

HundertzehnGustav

01-31-10, 09:30 AM

How can you honestly say you're a Subsim fan and not buy this ASAP?! I want everyone in this community to pay full-price so that there's a better chance of another sequel. If you can afford a computer to run SH5, you can afford the full-price.

need to afford an ADSL line too. and thats another 50-70 bucks a month. plus 350 euroes initial installation fees.