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almg
01-16-10, 10:57 AM
Hey everybody :up:

Is Silent Hunter 5 requires Internet Connection and can we play without the DVD ?

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mookiemookie
01-16-10, 11:05 AM
It's not out yet.

almg
01-16-10, 11:29 AM
But, is that the games are UBISOFT still need 1 connection ?

Can someone ask me precisely :o ?
Thanks...

Nickolas
01-16-10, 12:14 PM
But, is that the games are UBISOFT still need 1 connection ?

Can someone ask me precisely :o ?
Thanks...

say WHAT?

it's safe to asume you will need the DVD and you won't need to connect to the internet. someone will be able to confirm this once the game is released.

Carotio
01-16-10, 12:21 PM
@almg

SH5 n'est pas encore sortie, donc personne ici ne le sait. Et je crois pas non plus que c'est décidé si SH5 sera jouable sans le DVD comme SH4 l'était après le troisième patch. Peut-être que l'on fait la même chose, mais personne ne le sait.

Catfish
01-16-10, 12:30 PM
Hello,

1st you will have to buy the initial allowance to play the game,
2nd you may then buy the game, but pay a monthly fee for using,
3rd it will install Starforce Mk XVIII on your PC which will install itself in the eproms of your motherboard and can never be deleted again,
4th you will pay for every upgrade like snorkel, decoys, special torpedos etc.,
5th certainly also pay for every other type of U-boat,
(5 1/2 for another face of your captain's avatar)
6th you need a permanent physical direct line connection to the Moscow KGB server, or maybe to Beijing,
7th you will certainly be online all the time, but especially when you are doing online banking with your PC.

Ahem.

Maybe this gives the Devs some ideas to think of next :rotfl2:,
the WW1 sim "Rise Of Flight" is already heading in this direction :nope:

;)
What i really think is some kind of short online check every now and then, like in SHIV - anything of the points mentioned above and they will lose me as a customer - however i sure think they will use more usual and contemporary methods :up:

Greetings,
Catfish

Nickolas
01-16-10, 01:01 PM
4th you will pay for every upgrade like snorkel, decoys, special torpedos etc.,


you actually rent those with "virtual renown"... 1$ = 500 VR.

200 VR to have the snorkel for 14 days, 400vr to have it for 30 days...
50 VR for a zaunkönig :arrgh!:
just like BF: Heroes.

:shifty: lets just hope this doesn't happen.... EVER :shifty:

Sailor Steve
01-16-10, 01:36 PM
And now for something completely different: A serious answer!
:rotfl2:

None of the previous Silent Hunters required an internet connection to play, so I'm sure this one won't either. And if it does they'll lose a customer.

Silent Hunter 4 was patched to remove the CD requirement. We won't know until the game is actually released, but based on that I'm guessing this one won't need the CD in the drive to play it.

Onkel Neal
01-16-10, 01:48 PM
Hello,

1st you will have to buy the initial allowance to play the game,
2nd you may then buy the game, but pay a monthly fee for using,
3rd it will install Starforce Mk XVIII on your PC which will install itself in the eproms of your motherboard and can never be deleted again,
4th you will pay for every upgrade like snorkel, decoys, special torpedos etc.,
5th certainly also pay for every other type of U-boat,
(5 1/2 for another face of your captain's avatar)
6th you need a permanent physical direct line connection to the Moscow KGB server, or maybe to Beijing,
7th you will certainly be online all the time, but especially when you are doing online banking with your PC.

Ahem.

Maybe this gives the Devs some ideas to think of next :rotfl2:,
the WW1 sim "Rise Of Flight" is already heading in this direction :nope:

;)
What i really think is some kind of short online check every now and then, like in SHIV - anything of the points mentioned above and they will lose me as a customer - however i sure think they will use more usual and contemporary methods :up:

Greetings,
Catfish

:har: Don't forget the special tatoo!

almg
01-17-10, 12:02 PM
:haha::haha::haha: !!

I want Silent Hunter V :up: !

Jimbuna
01-17-10, 02:20 PM
All will be revealed in March http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

Webster
01-17-10, 05:08 PM
it took me a minute to realize what he was asking too but some games are are internet play only (there is no offline vs the computer side of the game) so its a reasonable concern that hasnt been directly asked AFAIK even thou the silent hunter series has never done anything like that with their games thank goodness.

Nisgeis
01-17-10, 05:18 PM
As long as your internet connection supports 1024x768 with no Anti Aliassing, it should be fine for playing SH5. At least, until 'patch' 1.5 is released. Who knows what crazy graphical features it will support after that!?

Dig, dig, dig. OMG But Yeah. This is a modern game, not one made in the dark ages, like SH4, so hopefully it will have AA out of the box - like... a modern game? Hopefully! And let's hope it isn't fixed res either for the first patch iterations up to the last 'patch' which you had to pay for.

JScones
01-18-10, 01:30 AM
Perhaps the OP is wondering whether SH5 will be like RoF which requires an online connection to run?

A feature so loved by RoF players that it will be removed from singleplayer in an upcoming patch.:rotfl2:

FIREWALL
01-18-10, 01:54 AM
I can get all the free drink coasters I want at my local watering hole.

I saw no reason to buy one. ( RoF) :haha:

LiveGoat
01-18-10, 03:04 AM
Holy cow, that is great news! If that's true RoF just got a new customer! :rock:

Perhaps the OP is wondering whether SH5 will be like RoF which requires an online connection to run?

A feature so loved by RoF players that it will be removed from singleplayer in an upcoming patch.:rotfl2:

Catfish
01-18-10, 04:18 AM
Hello,
i second that - while i have been playing OFF i would have liked to also get my hands on RoF, but the online requirement along with paying for every additional plane was too much. Played it at a friend's PC for a few times and even if the aircraft models are superb, the "action" and lacking campaign was sobering.
But it's true, you have to pay for every plane apart from 3 or 4 (?) included ones, and internet-connection is a must. What especially pi**ed me off was the automatic download of new 600+ mb patches if you just wanted to play a short mission :nope:
But i'll buy it anyway if they drop this online bullsh!t.

Let's pray UBI does not follow this way with SH5 ..

Greetings,
Catfish

Webster
01-26-10, 02:26 PM
But, is that the games are UBISOFT still need 1 connection ?

Can someone ask me precisely :o ?
Thanks...


i wanted to revisit your thread and say "you were right"

the announcement of UBI and DRM means that you definately will have to be connected to the internet at all times to play sh5 and your saved games are kept on UBI servers and not on your computer so if UBI has server problems you may lose your saved games.

nobody has talked about it but i would guess you will have limits on games saves as well since UBI is storing them and they will obviously have storage space issues that go with that.

SteamWake
01-26-10, 02:48 PM
Not to mention data mining.. woops did I just mention that? :oops:

Egan
01-26-10, 03:01 PM
i wanted to revisit your thread and say "you were right"

the announcement of UBI and DRM means that you definately will have to be connected to the internet at all times to play sh5 and your saved games are kept on UBI servers and not on your computer so if UBI has server problems you may lose your saved games.

nobody has talked about it but i would guess you will have limits on games saves as well since UBI is storing them and they will obviously have storage space issues that go with that.

Has this been confirmed then? If true I'm going to have to seriously think about saying goodbye to the franchise. Based on everything else I've been reading about the game so far I'm not entirely sure that is going to be too much of a problem. Online connection is one thing but keeping saves on their servers isnt going to happen with me. To be honest, the way the games industry is going anyway i think I'm going to be moving on to new hobbies soon enough anyway - So many issues and so few really good games that make it worth it.

SteamWake
01-26-10, 03:09 PM
Please take time to read the DRM thread stickied to the top of these forums.

Thank you and have a nice day :salute:

Brag
01-26-10, 03:40 PM
:eek: As Steam Wake says: Visit the DRM thread-

To find out what DRM is:

Digital rights management - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management)

oscar19681
01-26-10, 03:40 PM
you actually rent those with "virtual renown"... 1$ = 500 VR.

200 VR to have the snorkel for 14 days, 400vr to have it for 30 days...
50 VR for a zaunkönig :arrgh!:
just like BF: Heroes.

:shifty: lets just hope this doesn't happen.... EVER :shifty:

How much for different flavours of soup?

Lt commander lare
01-26-10, 04:06 PM
and i just spent all this money to upgrade my computer ubisoft can kiss my money good buy for the franchise if this is does go through i will not buy the game this is bad as starforce and its pretty clear they havent learned from SH3 and they have lost a customer as of march if the members here report back the sorry and sad news that in fact you need to have an internet connection to play then im done with ubisoft until they patch the game to play with people that dont have an internet connection

lt commander lare

Ships-R-Us
01-26-10, 04:26 PM
In addition to this post from Catfish, GIBOU hit the nail on the head in the original "DRM" thread.....I suggest you go read it.....What other information will flow from your computer to Ubisoft servers aside from SH5 data?
nQUOTE=Catfish;1237828]Hello,

1st you will have to buy the initial allowance to play the game,
2nd you may then buy the game, but pay a monthly fee for using,
3rd it will install Starforce Mk XVIII on your PC which will install itself in the eproms of your motherboard and can never be deleted again,
4th you will pay for every upgrade like snorkel, decoys, special torpedos etc.,
5th certainly also pay for every other type of U-boat,
(5 1/2 for another face of your captain's avatar)
6th you need a permanent physical direct line connection to the Moscow KGB server, or maybe to Beijing,
7th you will certainly be online all the time, but especially when you are doing online banking with your PC.

Ahem.

Maybe this gives the Devs some ideas to think of next :rotfl2:,
the WW1 sim "Rise Of Flight" is already heading in this direction :nope:

;)
What i really think is some kind of short online check every now and then, like in SHIV - anything of the points mentioned above and they will lose me as a customer - however i sure think they will use more usual and contemporary methods :up:

Greetings,
Catfish[/QUOTE]

urfisch
01-26-10, 05:49 PM
Has this been confirmed then? If true I'm going to have to seriously think about saying goodbye to the franchise. Based on everything else I've been reading about the game so far I'm not entirely sure that is going to be too much of a problem. Online connection is one thing but keeping saves on their servers isnt going to happen with me. To be honest, the way the games industry is going anyway i think I'm going to be moving on to new hobbies soon enough anyway - So many issues and so few really good games that make it worth it.

it has been confirmed in the german ubi forum, this evening...unbelievable

:88)

Webster
01-26-10, 05:55 PM
its from the head guy at ubi in an interview and pulished in several other websites.

EDIT: its for all of UBI's 2010 games and not just sh5

longam
01-26-10, 06:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCXycgAUNWI :D

Ducimus
01-26-10, 06:13 PM
If this is true:
http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/52668/Ubisoft-Drops-PC-DRM-Takes-Everything-Online

Im not buying any more Ubisoft games. Period. Let alone SH5.

Hartmann
01-26-10, 06:55 PM
Wow... store save games in a server ?? no way , i´m don´t buy sh anymore if this is true , let me play then to another games (sh3-4 il-2 , FS2009 ...)

clearly they want to kill Pc games , and this is the first steep, the next version could be console port or no release a pc game :hmmm:

what can happens wen the servers go down or the game discontinued or not soported ?

kv29
01-26-10, 07:06 PM
Useless...
It will just provide more fun to the crackers.

One image that comes to my mind is the opening of "2001 a space odyssey", when the monkeys learn how to use tools. It seems we still haven´t learn some tools do work, and some others do not.......

HundertzehnGustav
01-26-10, 07:14 PM
what can happens wen the servers go down or the game discontinued or not soported ?

they will probably let you polay offline. but a lot later.

Webster
01-26-10, 07:56 PM
its from the head guy at ubi in an interview and pulished in several other websites.

EDIT: its for all of UBI's 2010 games and not just sh5


i have some updated info of sorts, its the official UBI info page on this

http://support.uk.ubi.com/online-services-platform/

its from seeadlers thread and gives a few more details but mostly the same as the voodoo article

capthelm
01-26-10, 07:57 PM
it has been confirmed in the german ubi forum, this evening...unbelievable

:88)


bye then have fun..

capthelm
01-26-10, 08:02 PM
you can thank all the game hackers for this people not ubi or the dev team..

goldorak
01-26-10, 08:08 PM
they will probably let you polay offline. but a lot later.


And I will gladly pay them a lot later as well.
Of course by that time the game will be in the bargin bin for 5-6 $.
You see everything works out as it should, Ubisoft takes the flak for draconian drm, some people get to rent the game at full price, the rest of us will wait down the line and pay what amounts to the price of a single Big Mac.
Its a win-win situation. :rock: :D

bigboywooly
01-26-10, 08:09 PM
Depends on how you look at that
Spores decision to go DRM forced users away and into pirated versions

Digital rights management - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management)


In mid-2008, the publication of Mass Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect) marked the start of a wave of titles primarily making use of SecuROM and Steam for DRM and requiring authentication via an online server. The use of DRM scheme in 2008's Spore backfired and there were considerable protest, resuming in a considerable number of users seeking a pirated version instead. This backlash against SecuROM was a significant factor in Spore becoming the most pirated game in 2008

Not argueing piracy is a problem but screwing with the ppl who do buy your software isnt the answer either

Webster
01-26-10, 08:17 PM
you can thank all the game hackers for this people not ubi or the dev team..


thats like saying its the underwear bomber is the reason you cant go to the bathroom on a plane anymore, so if the terrorist cant pee i guess the bomb cant go off. well i feel safer already :salute:


it might be the popular excuse to blame the pirates and they are a problem that needs to be dealt with but there are other ways that are much more effective in stopping them.

the real problem is the people who are making these dumb decissions to make it harder and more difficult on paying customers when the pirates will still be able to easily bypass this BS in about 5 days or less

Jimbuna
01-28-10, 06:24 PM
thats like saying its the underwear bomber is the reason you cant go to the bathroom on a plane anymore, so if the terrorist cant pee i guess the bomb cant go off. well i feel safer already :salute:


it might be the popular excuse to blame the pirates and they are a problem that needs to be dealt with but there are other ways that are much more effective in stopping them.

the real problem is the people who are making these dumb decissions to make it harder and more difficult on paying customers when the pirates will still be able to easily bypass this BS in about 5 days or less

I'd be more confident putting my wager on 24hrs post release.