View Full Version : Red Dawn Re-Done
Onkel Neal
01-12-10, 12:04 AM
Oh boy, looking forward to this.
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/8/2010/01/phoca_thumb_l_propaganda_1.jpg
lt's Friday night and the residents of Spokane are consumed with the thoughts of the local high school football game. The Wolverines just lost a nail biter and the team's quarterback Matt Eckert is trying to shake off the tough loss. Adding to Matt's worries is the sudden and unexpected return of his older brother Jed (played by Chris Hemsworth, STAR TREK). After their mom died, Jed left town with no warning and enlisted in the military. Now Jed is home unexpectedly after serving in Afghanistan and the brothers' relationship is strained at best. After some encouraging words from his dad and his girlfriend Erica, Matt heads home to sleep off his loss. The next morning Matt is startled awake as their whole house shakes violently. Running outside, Matt and Jed find the sky filled with parachutes and the streets lined with military vehicles. For the first time in history, the United States is being occupied by foreign armies. The invaders are calling themselves the "People's Liberation Army" and they easily outnumber the citizens of Spokane. Matt and Jed's worst nightmares are actualized as missiles scream into nearby houses, rocking them with explosions. On the once quiet streets of their neighborhood, U.S. citizens are being rounded up and taken prisoner. Suddenly, with horror, Matt realizes that the foreign invaders have captured his father and his girlfriend Erica. Matt screams out to them, vowing to save them as Jed drags his brother away to safety.
With the town completely overrun by the enemy, Matt and Jed watch helplessly as their father gives up his life to protect his family, allowing his sons to escape into the Cascade mountains. Determined to fight for their community and rescue what's left of their hometown, the brothers assemble a ragtag group of high school students and begin to fight back. Being a war hero, Jed is able to train this unlikely group of heroes the same way that he was trained. Soon they are transformed into sharp shooting, camouflaged, freedom fighters. Known as the "Wolverines" (after Matt's football team), the group soon becomes a national symbol for the resistance and the hope of Americans everywhere. What this enemy didn't realize is that what makes the U.S. great is not the size of its military, but rather the men and women who wear the uniform and the communities they come from.
With the help of an underground network of scared but brave townspeople, the Wolverines quickly go from a minor nuisance to serious threat as they begin to batter away at the invaders. Using their superior knowledge of the landscape that they grew up around gives them a strategic advantage. The foreign invaders want to destroy the American way of life but the Wolverines aren't going to let that happen.
Meanwhile, Matt is searching tirelessly for his girlfriend Erica who is being held prisoner by the invaders. He will stop at nothing to rescue the girl he loves even if it means risking his life to do so. With the fate of the country on the shoulders of these small town heroes, the Wolverines must summon the courage to overcome impossible odds and unity a town against the greatest threat this country ever faced. Outnumbered and with limited supplies, the Wolverines must rely on the spirit instilled in every small town across the U.S... protect your neighbor at all costs, because even though they aren't your blood, they're still your family. RED DAWN will show you that when this country is in its darkest hour, salvation can be found where we least expect it.
Doesn't say if the film takes place in the '80s, or current time. Wolverines!! :rock:
ETR3(SS)
01-12-10, 12:09 AM
People's Liberation Army
The Chinese will have a fit with that I'm sure.:haha: And 3/4 of America won't understand what the big deal is.:nope:
Buddahaid
01-12-10, 12:23 AM
Sounds just silly, but I'm an old fart.
Oooh! Rough night at Langtrees brothel!
I remember seeing the original in the '80's. From reading the precis, I'd assume it's been updated 'cos it mentions Jed returing from a tour of Afghanistan. If it was the '80's then he would have not been sent there unless it was by the CIA I suspect.
The original wasn't terrible, it just wasn't very good either. Dunno that it would work in current time as the USSR doesn't scare the USA anymore and unless they do mean the Chinese PLA there ain't anyone else looking to come knocking at the moment that doesn't want to strap explosives to themselves and I can't see them doing a major airborne invasion.
The thing I never understood from the original was how the USSR was supposed to send all these troops over the Mid-West without the US forces putting up any sort of resistance before they got there.
Freiwillige
01-12-10, 01:30 AM
The original is one of my favorite films. Tarjak the Cuban, Russian invasion came from the west not the east. The midwest was free. Russian occupation only extended to the rocky mountains.
VonHesse
01-12-10, 01:36 AM
The thing I never understood from the original was how the USSR was supposed to send all these troops over the Mid-West without the US forces putting up any sort of resistance before they got there.
It was a three-pronged assault. Russians from the west, Nicaraguans cut through Mexico, and Cuba took the south.
I'm a geek for remembering that...:oops:
Can't wait to see a re-make. Hope they don't mess it up
The the US Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines sat on their behinds and watched it happen? That was the bit I never understood.:doh: The movie was OK I just couldn't get behind the premise that the Reds would have been able to get as far as they did without some real fight from the Yanks.
Sorry Freewillige, my US geography was never that good.
nikimcbee
01-12-10, 02:45 AM
The the US Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines sat on their behinds and watched it happen? That was the bit I never understood.:doh: The movie was OK I just couldn't get behind the premise that the Reds would have been able to get as far as they did without some real fight from the Yanks.
Sorry Freewillige, my US geography was never that good.
If it's set now, that could happen with the 5th column: Obama:haha:
The opening scene to the movie:
Chinese paratroopers walk into a whitehouse party and say: You owe us a lot of money. Where's my money bee-hotch?
nikimcbee
01-12-10, 02:58 AM
whoa, look what I found:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAVDgUnmX1E
http://www.reddawn2010.com/
If it's set now, that could happen with the 5th column: Obama:haha:
Yeh but it woulda never happened with Ronny Raygun in charge now would it? Ronny woulda smoked 'em!
http://hisvorpal.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/ronnie-reagan_cigsz.jpg
The opening scene to the movie:
Chinese paratroopers walk into a whitehouse party and say: You owe us a lot of money. Where's my money bee-hotch?
:har::har:
whoa, look what I found:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAVDgUnmX1E
http://www.reddawn2010.com/
I'm sure I saw you in both of the vids. First in the fan trailer in the Civil War reenactment and then on the Dangerous Citizen Alert board!:D
EDIT: Just found this well written review of the script of the remake: http://www.cinema-suicide.com/2009/04/15/red-dawn-remake-script-review/
The review makes a good point that China is an unlikely threat, but I can't go along with his idea that North Korea would be a more plausible threat. They can't feed themselves let alone invade North America.
Torplexed
01-12-10, 07:06 AM
The Soviet plan in the original 1984 movie involved seizing every McDonald's drive-thru in the nation, thereby starving America into submission. ;)
http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/wp-content/Images/red_dawn_mcdonalds.jpg
So that is what they were after all along!
http://www.funatiq.com/images/mcdonalds-russia.jpg
Torplexed
01-12-10, 07:20 AM
With the town completely overrun by the enemy, Matt and Jed watch helplessly as their father gives up his life to protect his family, allowing his sons to escape into the Cascade mountainsLooks like the script writers failed their geography. The Cascade Mountains are over a hundred miles from Spokane. Much easier to cross into Idaho and use the nearby Rockies, or the Selkirk Mountains to the north.
Better yet, let the enemy have Spokane. From my experience with that town they'll die of boredom within weeks. :O:
Egads, the Chinese are a sensitive lot at the best of times, I dread to think what kind of uproar they'll create when this is released.
However, it should make for fairly decent viewing alright :yeah:
goldorak
01-12-10, 08:43 AM
The the US Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines sat on their behinds and watched it happen? That was the bit I never understood.:doh: The movie was OK I just couldn't get behind the premise that the Reds would have been able to get as far as they did without some real fight from the Yanks.
Sorry Freewillige, my US geography was never that good.
You ain't seen nothing.
I still remember watching in the theater Invasion USA with Chuck Norris.
Thats the summit of implausability.
Terrorists that spank the US, and Chuck Norris that single handedly spanks the poor terrorists. :haha:
Good old movie = bad new remake.
'nuff said.
SteamWake
01-12-10, 09:49 AM
Good old movie = bad new remake.
'nuff said.
Most likely.
Only thing that got me about the original and now the remake is that the US would never be taken by force. Instead it will crumble from within.
The odd thing about the anchor post is that every one of those posters reflect contemporary politics... I'm just saying.
Only thing that got me about the original and now the remake is that the US would never be taken by force. Instead it will crumble from within.
Never say never. ;)
Raptor1
01-12-10, 12:11 PM
Bah, it always loses half the fun when they replace the Soviets with someone else...
goldorak
01-12-10, 01:20 PM
Bah, it always loses half the fun when they replace the Soviets with someone else...
Well the Chinese are as bad ass communists as the Soviets were.
But yeah I get what you mean when saying no one is as bad ass as the Soviets. Man how I wish the cold war were still going on. ;)
Freiwillige
01-12-10, 04:27 PM
Well the Chinese are as bad ass communists as the Soviets were.
But yeah I get what you mean when saying no one is as bad ass as the Soviets. Man how I wish the cold war were still going on. ;)
No way! The Chinese are nothing as scary as the Russians were. Marshal Stalin, Tank factory's building billions of tanks, Nukes upon Nukes.
Give me the original bad guys not this watered down chinese copy (Pun intended)
Jimbuna
01-12-10, 04:40 PM
Better start stocking up on noodles and prawn crackers before prices soar :DL
goldorak
01-12-10, 06:50 PM
No way! The Chinese are nothing as scary as the Russians were. Marshal Stalin, Tank factory's building billions of tanks, Nukes upon Nukes.
Give me the original bad guys not this watered down chinese copy (Pun intended)
Ha the Soviets, China has a strategic advantage, its population.
Think the havoc an army (even if purely conventional) of 100 million men (less than 10% of their population) could do if unleashed onto the world.
No amount of machinery is going to stop an army this big. ^_^
China wins by sheer numbers, always has always will.
Raptor1
01-12-10, 07:22 PM
It's not about how many men China has. The Chinese bad guys are...well, Chinese, they look differently, speak strangely and behave in an evil manner. But the Soviets, they're the classic evil Red commies, and all these new bad guys like China just aren't the same...
It should be remade with the British invading America, I think that would work out quite well, instead of:
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/8/2010/01/phoca_thumb_l_propaganda_1.jpg
You'd have:
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3118/britishdawn.jpg
:yeah:
I think it could be a hit :rock:
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3118/britishdawn.jpg
:yeah:
I think it could be a hit :rock::har::har::har: Particularly the middle one!
Ha the Soviets, China has a strategic advantage, its population.
Think the havoc an army (even if purely conventional) of 100 million men (less than 10% of their population) could do if unleashed onto the world.
No amount of machinery is going to stop an army this big. ^_^
China wins by sheer numbers, always has always will.
Bah. Numbers aren't everything. Those sheer numbers still have to eat, still have to be clothed, sheltered, supplied and equipped. Put 100 million men way out on the end of a 10,000 mile long supply line surrounded by a hostile and well armed populace and watch those numbers tumble through starvation and disease.
Bah. Numbers aren't everything. Those sheer numbers still have to eat, still have to be clothed, sheltered, supplied and equipped. Put 100 million men way out on the end of a 10,000 mile long supply line surrounded by a hostile and well armed populace and watch those numbers tumble through starvation and disease.Bah food won't be a problem:
http://www.earth-photography.com/photos/Countries/France/France_Paris_McDonalds.jpg
Not once the engineers finish their work:
http://bermudaradical.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/1606159_mcdonalds_ap.jpg
;)
That's where we'll win. We'll supersize them into obesity.
Onkel Neal
01-12-10, 09:44 PM
It should be remade with the British invading America, I think that would work out quite well, instead of:
You'd have:
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3118/britishdawn.jpg
:yeah:
I think it could be a hit :rock:
:har:
:yeah: LOVE IT!! :yeah:
Freiwillige
01-13-10, 12:37 AM
Ha the Soviets, China has a strategic advantage, its population.
Think the havoc an army (even if purely conventional) of 100 million men (less than 10% of their population) could do if unleashed onto the world.
No amount of machinery is going to stop an army this big. ^_^
China wins by sheer numbers, always has always will.
Sheer numbers? Hmmm Japan vs China..we all know how well Chinese numbers were working then.
China vs. Vietnam, Ho-chi-min sent the Chinese packing after China stepped into their country.
In fact I cannot think of one single time Chinese numbers counted for anything.....They had to build a wall to hide from Mongolia!
And lastly any Chinese invasion fleet would be on the bottom mid ocean. Any port that could load reinforcements would be wiped off the face of the earth.
Raptor1
01-13-10, 12:42 AM
In fact I cannot think of one single time Chinese numbers counted for anything.....
Korea?
UnderseaLcpl
01-13-10, 12:52 AM
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3118/britishdawn.jpg
Normally I would have posted some ROFL smileys or something but I am very mad at you for making me spew beer all over my monitor, the keyboard, and the floor, Oberon. Do you have any idea how badly that is going to stain? :stare:
Now that I've regained my composure somewhat I will begrudge you a :har:. I still can't look at the "Repairing Your Dictionary" part without laughing. Well done, sir:salute:
nikimcbee
01-13-10, 01:41 AM
It should be remade with the British invading America, I think that would work out quite well, instead of:
You'd have:
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3118/britishdawn.jpg
:yeah:
I think it could be a hit :rock:
Never! You can keep Prince charles and your crazy round-a-bouts:arrgh!:
nikimcbee
01-13-10, 01:42 AM
That's where we'll win. We'll supersize them into obesity.
:har:
Freiwillige
01-13-10, 04:24 AM
Korea?
Okay maybe you have a point but we still pushed em back all the way to the 38th after the initial shock.
Trool323
01-13-10, 04:36 AM
A redo of red dawn fighting china awesome...:up:
Jimbuna
01-13-10, 12:20 PM
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/3118/britishdawn.jpg
:yeah:
I think it could be a hit :rock:
CLASSIC!! :sunny::smug:
Sailor Steve
01-13-10, 04:53 PM
Good old movie = bad new remake.
'nuff said.
Awful old movie.
The only good thing that I got from it was the reaction of a former Soviet officer who had defected to the United States. We were at a gaming convention and someone asked him what he thought.
"We were always terrified of an order to invade the US. We knew that every single American owned a gun, and knew how to use it!"
Awful old movie.
The only good thing that I got from it was the reaction of a former Soviet officer who had defected to the United States. We were at a gaming convention and someone asked him what he thought.
"We were always terrified of an order to invade the US. We knew that every single American owned a gun, and knew how to use it!"
:salute:
Freiwillige
01-13-10, 09:12 PM
Unfortunately more and more American's are growing to fear and resent the very firearms and the second amendment that our forefathers left for us.
I'm with Charlton Heston on this one. A freedom rejected is soon a freedom lost.
I loved the original Red Dawn.
Jimbuna
01-14-10, 09:30 AM
Awful old movie.
The only good thing that I got from it was the reaction of a former Soviet officer who had defected to the United States. We were at a gaming convention and someone asked him what he thought.
"We were always terrified of an order to invade the US. We knew that every single American owned a gun, and knew how to use it!"
It's a bloody relief they were never ordered to invade the UK then :o
It's a bloody relief they were never ordered to invade the UK then :o
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article387605.ece
:03:
Jimbuna
01-14-10, 12:28 PM
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article387605.ece
:03:
404 Error :doh:
Blimey Jim, the Times put you on their naughty list? :haha:
Anyway, for the benefit of the uneducated amongst us, I shall translate...
(name that film)
‘Top secret’ plan for Soviet invasion is not so illuminating in Blackpool
A map that appears to indicate a Cold War plot may have been created by a council officer
A map of the Lancashire resort, labelled in Russian, has come to light and has been seized upon as evidence of a cunning Cold War plan to attack Britain by landing the Red Army on Blackpool Pleasure Beach. A second wave of troops would have come ashore at Cleethorpes, on Humberside, and the Soviets would have sliced Britain in half within 24 hours.
The conspiracy is to be revealed in a BBC Radio 4 documentary, Balalaikas in Blackpool, this month.
But the Russian map may not be the extraordinary document that it seems.
According to Blackpudlians there is another explanation for the map, on which the seaside town’s key landmarks are identified in Cyrillic script. They include the railway, bus and tram stations, the airport, the piers and beaches and, of course, Blackpool Tower, which would apparently have become an observation post and communications mast.
Experts on the history of Blackpool illuminations say that the map was the work not of the Kremlin but of Harry Porter, the council’s press officer at the time.
The late Mr Porter is remembered as an ingenious public-relations man, an early spin-doctor whose main task every year was to generate coverage for the switching-on of the Blackpool Illuminations.
At the height of the Cold War he hit upon the idea of inviting Jacob Malik, the Soviet Ambassador, to switch on the lights. It was September 1955. Khrushchev was in power, the Warsaw Pact had just been signed and Burgess and Maclean were missing but soon to surface in Moscow. A Soviet switch-on would be controversial and headline-grabbing.
The Russians loved the idea and sent a large delegation. To help them to find their way around, Mr Porter commissioned a map which clearly marked the local landmarks, main streets and transport facilities. David Graham, a Blackpool journalist, has a copy of Mr Porter’s 1955 map.
He said: “I’ve seen the original. It was handed out to journalists and VIPs in an official pack in September 1955 which was meant to be informative and an assistance to Russian visitors who had never been to Blackpool before, and probably never returned.”
A spokesman for Blackpool Tourism said: “The Russians brought a big party of press and military attachés to what was to be a big seaside knees-up. This map was produced for them and one must have been taken back to Russia. It has reappeared years later and is now being touted as an invasion plan. If that is the case, Blackpool council were Soviet collaborators.”
The BBC claims that the Blackpool map is marked “Secret” and is one of 200 detailed maps of British cities, ports and railheads produced by the Soviets between 1964 and 1988. It is said to have been drawn in 1974. But the map marks Stanley Park as an airport, which it was in 1955. By the mid-1970s it was Blackpool Zoo.
A BBC spokesman said: “The map was one in a series of over 200 prepared by the Russians of major British cities, ports and railheads between 1964 and 1988. The director of tourism for Blackpool was a contributor to the programme and didn’t raise any concerns about the map’s authenticity.”
Maybe the Soviets just used Porters map as it served their needs in their invasion plan.
"Haha stupid capitalists. We shall use their own map against them! mwahahaha!"
kiwi_2005
01-14-10, 06:40 PM
Original Red dawn was bad, i remember getting it out on cassette video it was a toss up between Red dawn and Commando staring Arnold Schwarzenegger. Got Commando out the next day it was a far better hyped up over the top gun hoe of a movie.
les green01
01-14-10, 10:11 PM
i like both red dawn and commando i would love to see a movie where one man doesnt wipe out 5000 guys without reloading or burning thru the barrel or least warping i or running thru the jungle at full speed without triping or making a crapload of noise as far as remakes most not worth a match to burn them
nikimcbee
01-16-10, 02:40 PM
It's a bloody relief they were never ordered to invade the UK then :o
I was going to say, you could out drink them....:haha: okay maybe not.
They were afaid of Mr. Bean.
On a side not, could you see these guys landing in TX?:haha: That would be over in 5 min.:haha:
On a side not, could you see these guys landing in TX?:haha: That would be over in 5 min.:haha:
I can do better than that, I can give moving pictures:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcTCVSJ5DcM
Jimbuna
01-16-10, 03:23 PM
Well....we could always 'entertain' them :DL
les green01
01-16-10, 06:59 PM
or get some good old boys loaded up with beans and let them rip just make sure there not a open flame around
Epic necro thread bump for film release.
GO GO MAGIC NORK INVASION!
http://www.cartoonaday.com/images/cartoons/2012/04/north-korea-launch-failure-598x454.jpg
Red Brow
11-22-12, 08:42 PM
If North Korea wanted to invade someone I think it would be South Korea.
nikimcbee
11-23-12, 03:36 AM
Epic necro thread bump for film release.
GO GO MAGIC NORK INVASION!
http://www.cartoonaday.com/images/cartoons/2012/04/north-korea-launch-failure-598x454.jpg
:salute:
When I saw it was the NoKos invading:haha:, I thought to myself "their army would starve to death within a week of leaving NoKo.:dead:
Maybe if the NoKo's were backed by the Chi Comms this movie would be more pallet-able,,ha ha yubba make new word,,don't know how to spell,, or maybe the 20 million illegal immigrants decided to have their peice of the american pie called Don't Drink the Water at Dawn. WOLVERINES. or or the U.N. decided to send in their blue helmets to disarm the american people called Agenda 21 at Dawn, or, Santa Claus was to come to every home and take all our stuff and put us in work camps called This was a Wonderiful Life Till Dawn,,, god I love a great Christmas movie:doh::doh::doh::down::down::down:for the New Red Dawn. p.s for those who don't get it, a pallet holds stuff and red dawn doesn't hold water.
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