will the life on the boat will be like in the trailer? [Archive]

Gotmilk

01-06-10, 09:04 AM

What do you guys think. I loved the trailer. Walking around the boat, everyone minding their own business. I saw sleeping, playing, writing, reading and drinking.

But.. but ... but.. the last gameplay video made a little concern. I did not see that life in the boat like it was on trailer. To me it just seems guys standing at their post, or standing still somewhere with couple of animation slapped on. It is jut like SH4 only you have more rooms to see guys doing their animation.

So all the time we made those stupid jokes about the chef offering us the soup. I fear that no one is going to offer that soup for us anyway. :wah:

kapitan_zur_see

01-06-10, 09:53 AM

Now this a very intersting question i'm wondering a lot about...
I totally fear that despite the fact that the last trailer advertise it as "real time ingame footage", I'm very aware that in most trailers, it is often more or so "lying advertising" ;)

I fear you'll have to understand "real time demo using the rendering engine", and by demo, understand "specialy scripted sequence made for trailer"...

I highly doubt the game will showcase this much living animation... Right from the start, my concerns has always been that it would be standing still crew with 2 or 3 animations looping forever, much like in sh3 or sh4... If it was like in the trailer though, man it would rocks!!! But my guess: don't count on it.

And my second guess: don't expect the devs to answer this too much intersting question... Asking such a question is irresponsible!!! :stare: As answering it might lead to too much happyness and the risk of selling more copies of SH5!!!
rather ask: "Are the health bars contrast and opacity going to be scalable in the option menu?", this they answer to since it's of no interest :know:

Or ask directly your question at this mail: SH5_Marketing_Manager @ Bucharest_Psychiatric_Hospital . com
this guy...knows his work... :haha:

Dowly

01-06-10, 10:15 AM

I certainly hope so. Maybe they've implented few different animation states for the crew. You know, like the sounds are, all clear = crew doing stuff around the boat, enemy nearby = crew on battlestations etc. :hmmm:

The crew interaction and the living boat has been so big marketing thingy for SHV that it would feel pretty cheap for the devs to go back to how it is in SHIII & SHIV.

AVGWarhawk

01-06-10, 10:24 AM

I believe it is exactly as you see in the trailer.

Alex

01-06-10, 10:26 AM

Wise words from kapitan_zur_see, I believe. :03:

Very unfortunately ! :stare: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah: :wah:

mookiemookie

01-06-10, 10:36 AM

So let's recap. People wanted the ability to walk through the whole boat, even though that adds zip to the actual gameplay and mission of a U-boat. They get that. Now before the game is even released and all people have to go on is less than 10 seconds of actual in game footage of walking throughout the boat, they're complaining that what they get isn't good enough?

I think people need another hobby and to stop over-analyzing every bit of video Ubi has put out.

Alex

01-06-10, 10:42 AM

@ Mookie : I enjoy being one of the few who complain of what we can roughly expect from the game, before everyone else does once the game is released. :rotfl2:

:88)

mookiemookie

01-06-10, 10:45 AM

@ Mookie : I enjoy being one of the few who complain of what we can roughly expect from the game, before everyone else does once the game is released. :rotfl2:

:88)

And I enjoy being a cranky curmudgeon. :D Now get the hell off my lawn and turn that music down!

Alex

01-06-10, 10:49 AM

ROFL ! :rotfl2:

:|\\ http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a75/Panzer_Kamerad/smileys/4.gif

Sailor Steve

01-06-10, 11:00 AM

I.

Don't.

Know.

Or, to put it another way: I have no clue. I'm too busy speculating about other aspects to indulge in that one.

kapitan_zur_see

01-06-10, 11:13 AM

I believe it is exactly as you see in the trailer.

Well, I guess we'll have to wait and see... But if it was the case, it would sure be a major step forward in immersion.

Tarnsman

01-06-10, 11:36 AM

Was anyone ever able to mod the crew movements in SH3 or Sh4? If the animations are crackable or the voice scripts are then it will be OK down the line and not just boring after a day or two.

kapitan_zur_see

01-06-10, 11:58 AM

Was anyone ever able to mod the crew movements in SH3 or Sh4? If the animations are crackable or the voice scripts are then it will be OK down the line and not just boring after a day or two.

It was very complicated. As far as i know, nobody really ever found a way to do that. Lack of dedicated tools, maybe harcoded things or two... And of course general lack of scripting abilities. Never found ways to CREATE specific triggers you could tie to ANY given behaviour of the game and links them to a specific animation to call for them. Very complicated indeed

Webster

01-06-10, 01:17 PM

I believe it is exactly as you see in the trailer.

yep, i agree

i think the first trailer was pure fantasy land of "this is what we want it to be like", then the last trailer is the real truth and now you are seeing what they were actually able to do with the game.

kapitan_zur_see

01-06-10, 02:25 PM

yep, i agree

i think the first trailer was pure fantasy land of "this is what we want it to be like", then the last trailer is the real truth and now you are seeing what they were actually able to do with the game.

If it has to be true, then i'm already very pleased with that!

Gotmilk

01-06-10, 02:47 PM

Now before the game is even released and all people have to go on is less than 10 seconds of actual in game footage of walking throughout the boat, they're complaining that what they get isn't good enough?

Who is complaining????

Webster

01-06-10, 04:01 PM

Who is complaining????

sounds like mookiemookie was the one complaining, everyone else was just talking about legitimate concerns based on what we have been seeing and hearing out of ubi

mookiemookie

01-06-10, 04:06 PM

sounds like mookiemookie was the one complaining, everyone else was just cvoicing legitimate concerns

First off, "legitimate concern" is opinion. What's legitimate to one person may not be to another.

based on what we have been seeing and hearing out of ubi

Which brings us to the point I was trying to make: we haven't heard or seen enough out of Ubi at all to even form a "legitimate opinion."

With all due respect, of course.

Lord Justice

01-06-10, 04:32 PM

Sirs, if we reform and wheel right, it may be possible to turn their flank, A toast to UBI. :woot:

Webster

01-06-10, 04:33 PM

First off, "legitimate concern" is opinion. What's legitimate to one person may not be to another.

Which brings us to the point I was trying to make: we haven't heard or seen enough out of Ubi at all to even form a "legitimate opinion."

With all due respect, of course.

i was only saying that light heartedly in fun

i agree with you and share your concerns, but i also feel those who wish to speculate could be very correct in their assumptions.

we are all very anxious to get our hands on sh5 for a test drive and see if its what we hoped for or not but absent having that we are left with standing in the corner, fighting/talking with the wife/girlfriend, or making wild guesses and speculations based solely on our own wants and desires.

it shows in your posts that you care a great deal about this game but it comes accross in your posts that you are saying others shouldnt speculate/complain and i think that is expecting a lot given the fact that there isnt much else we can do untill march 2010.

dont take it to heart so much, the devs arent going to be insulted by comments based on speculation and ubi couldnt care less anyway.

Arrakis

01-06-10, 04:38 PM

Sirs, if we reform and wheel right, it may be possible to turn their flank, A toast to UBI. :woot:

You dream, general.....

Lord Justice

01-06-10, 04:43 PM

You dream, general.....I do? Then stuff me with green apples yet again, dont we all? one dreams of peace and ubi to meet all our demands! or should i say wants and needs. :) :woot:

mookiemookie

01-06-10, 04:48 PM

i was only saying that light heartedly in fun

i agree with you and share your concerns, but i also feel those who wish to speculate could be very correct in their assumptions.

we are all very anxious to get our hands on sh5 for a test drive and see if its what we hoped for or not but absent having that we are left with standing in the corner, fighting/talking with the wife/girlfriend, or making wild guesses and speculations based solely on our own wants and desires.

it shows in your posts that you care a great deal about this game but it comes accross in your posts that you are saying others shouldnt speculate/complain and i think that is expecting a lot given the fact that there isnt much else we can do untill march 2010.

dont take it to heart so much, the devs arent going to be insulted by comments based on speculation and ubi couldnt care less anyway.

Ahh, I'm not as serious as I come across. The way I see it, we can sit and fret and worry and get ourselves all worked up over things, or we can sit back and take what is given. The first option will not do much other than give us all heartburn, so I'm more along the lines of option 2.

I just find it kind of silly to criticize something when we know very little about it. Now, I know that's a by-product of not having much to look at or talk about other than the meager scraps of information being fed to us. Naturally people are going to overanalyze and scrutinize, but hey, let's at least give it a chance.

And don't worry, I'll be the first to rip into things that are not up to snuff. But first I have to know what I'm talking about before I do. Heck, I've already done it to Dan when they said the were leaving out a sabotage/breakdown model. ;)

Lord Justice

01-06-10, 05:34 PM

Ahh, I'm not as serious as I come across. The way I see it, we can sit and fret and worry and get ourselves all worked up over things, or we can sit back and take what is given. The first option will not do much other than give us all heartburn, so I'm more along the lines of option 2.

I know that's a by-product of not having much to look at or talk about other than the meager scraps of information being fed to us.

Come again sir? do you jest? i could implement a sound volley in response to this statement, but i shall refrain. What however one cannot holdfourth from, is the statement addressed (Meager Scraps, Being Fed to Us.) This sir is distastefull, i for one am certainly no ravenous annimal, although i understand yor mindset i kindly believe the use of this remark a little rude. Wouldnt (other than leaked snipets, lack of information, presently offered to the sh5 community) be more appropriate if including Us. Forgive me if you find this challenging, tis not my intention to provoke, on the contrary, just to stop further insult as more may perceive. thank you.

mookiemookie

01-06-10, 06:11 PM

This sir is distastefull, i for one am certainly no ravenous annimal, although i understand yor mindset i kindly believe the use of this remark a little rude.

Huh? It's a figure of speech. :doh:

Webster

01-06-10, 06:14 PM

Come again sir? do you jest? i could implement a sound volley in response to this statement, but i shall refrain. What however one cannot holdfourth from, is the statement addressed (Meager Scraps, Being Fed to Us.) This sir is distastefull, i for one am certainly no ravenous annimal, although i understand yor mindset i kindly believe the use of this remark a little rude. Wouldnt (other than leaked snipets, lack of information, presently offered to the sh5 community) be more appropriate if including Us. Forgive me if you find this challenging, tis not my intention to provoke, on the contrary, just to stop further insult as more may perceive. thank you.

(Meager Scraps, Being Fed to Us.) is a very common term used to describe "having little to nothing given to you" which describes very well the situation of how much info has been given, or rather not given to us about the game so i believe something was lost in the translation there from one style of speech to another because there was nothing rude there by my understanding

just goes to show that depending on where you are from, the same words can have different meanings or be recieved differently

Lord Justice

01-06-10, 07:04 PM

(Meager Scraps, Being Fed to Us.) is a very common term used to describe "having little to nothing given to you" which describes very well the situation of how much info has been given, or rather not given to us about the game so i believe something was lost in the translation there from one style of speech to another because there was nothing rude there by my understanding

just goes to show that depending on where you are from, the same words can have different meanings or be recieved differentlyVery well, sir Webster, i will accept the possibility of loss of translation, i do so understand his mindset and the purpose of his aim, but that said it still can be percieved as a little rude, lacking in refinement, however charmingly and simply it was put. Perhaps it is my assumption that is misplaced!! but i consider this matter to be of relevance, i stand my ground and shall sound out in good order as it is my prerogative to respond to something i deem unworthie, or see cause for concern when (all) are being addressed. Thank you :hmmm:

JScones

01-07-10, 01:59 AM

Trailer? Quick, can someone post a link?

:D

Gotmilk

01-07-10, 02:13 AM

I just find it kind of silly to criticize something when we know very little about it. Now, I know that's a by-product of not having much to look at or talk about other than the meager scraps of information being fed to us. Naturally people are going to overanalyze and scrutinize, but hey, let's at least give it a chance.

I dont know if Mookie is talking about the thread i created or about the ranting we see in this forum. If you are talking about my thread then allow me to explain. (please bear with my english)

First of all, i did not criticize or overanalyzed anything. I just raised a question because there is SO MUCH information that does not go together very well. UBI has released two gameplay videos to community. On one we have a boat full of life (remember the "In game footage" in trailer) and then just couple of months before release we get another In game video that has absolutely no life on boat. The crash dive did not resemble the one we saw in first trailer.

Everything that got me exited about SH5 was on the first trailer. The last gameplay video was just SH4 with better graphics. And i dont think that it will get better because time for SH5 has ran out, so it should be almost finished version.

So there might be a chance that there is no point buying SH5. Just download Tomi mod and you will get basically the same game. (Only with better engine rooms :rotfl2:)

I hope that i am wrong and i am not bashing the game. I will wait when it comes out and then we will see.

EgoApocalypse

01-07-10, 01:02 PM

It wil be exactly like the video and there is a new edge to the game where you can pic and choose ingredients for makin soup:O:( Joke )

It wil be all good when it comes out...........lookin forward to it.:yeah:

Rip

01-07-10, 11:51 PM

I.

Don't.

Know.

Or, to put it another way: I have no clue. I'm too busy speculating about other aspects to indulge in that one.

I DON'T KNOW! I like that Sailor Steve Spicoli. I'm going to type it right here on the forum for everyone to see. Giving you full credit of course.

Will I ever be able to sink a ship Mr Rip?

Well I don't know Mr Steve.

:O:

Sailor Steve

01-08-10, 12:06 PM

Jimbuna

01-09-10, 04:12 PM

All will be revealed soon enough http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

Kapteeni Rantala

01-10-10, 02:13 AM

The thing is: we are dealing with up to 50 seperate AIs that would have to be programmed to do all sort of things to great truly authentic U-boat experience - and that is not a minor task. I have faith in the developers working more on the crew's behaviour than we have seen so far, though.

There will of course be limitations, but I think that what all the development team members should do at some point is to gather 'round, sit tight and watch the uncut version of Das Boot - that would give them an excellent idea of what they must aim for at least.

Task Force

01-10-10, 02:20 AM

I expect to see more AI action... but not like the vedio... Im guessing the ai will have acouple of animations per ai, and off duty ai will probably walk around abit, or sleep.

FIREWALL

01-10-10, 03:52 AM

I don't care one way or the other. I have bought everything in the Silent Hunter series and have been satisfied.

If $50.00 to $60.00 is to much life or death to some, get another hobby.

Like a Barbie doll or something. :har:

Jimbuna

01-10-10, 11:09 AM

Sailor Steve

01-10-10, 04:08 PM

Well, I've already admitted in the 'Upgrade just for SH5' thread that the only reason I have for getting a new computer is that mine won't run SH5 at all, and that I will do so when I can.

That means that SH5 is going to cost me in excess of $1000.

So, how much is a Barbie these days?:dead:

Jimbuna

01-10-10, 04:27 PM

It depends on whether you want the 'blow up' variety or the kiddies version :DL

FIREWALL

01-11-10, 01:01 AM

It depends on whether you want the 'blow up' variety or the kiddies version :DL

Precisely :03:

JScones

01-11-10, 01:14 AM

So, how much is a Barbie these days?:dead:
Wait, let me check. With three daughters under 8 years old I'm sure I can find a receipt for a Barbie doll around here somewhere...

Jimbuna

01-11-10, 03:45 PM

I thougt in Aussie terms it would be a case of beer, a pound of sausages and a crate of burgers :DL

Rip

01-11-10, 05:13 PM

:rotfl2:

Hey Rip, good to hear from you again.

Though we should talk more, considering that we are in exactly the same location. Or is that right behind each other?

Ow, my head is starting to hurt.

So we would be the guys holding the door.

No, after you.

No, after you.

No, after you.

No, after you.

I am only happy when I am in someone's baffles!

:lurk: