ShV pre-order already reduced to £26.99!

[flakmonkey]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silent-Hunter-V-PC-DVD/dp/B002U0KBT8/ref=sr_1_1/278-3426599-4687902?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1260269818&sr=8-1

Good old amazon.:up:

[PhantomLord]

Wow... german amazon is at 49,95€ :o
based on the actual exchange rate... around 45 GBP

[Uber Gruber]

They can reduce the pre-order price to 1 penny for all I care.... i'm still not touching it till its been put through its paces by members of this community.

[Sky999]

Why not just buy it while it's cheap? If there are things terribly wrong with it then I'm sure the modders will fix it sharpish. :yeah:

[Webster]

They can reduce the pre-order price to 1 penny for all I care.... i'm still not touching it till its been put through its paces by members of this community.

but havent you heard? :06:

sh5 with be completely bug free and working perfectly :D


@ sky999 - its very possible that if sh5 has many issues when released then ubi may drop the price a good bit to make up for the reduced sales and bad press. when things are cheaper people dont complain as loud.

[Uber Gruber]

Though I appreciate the logic of buyin it when it's cheap....I would be playing into the hands of people who feel they can release crap before it's finished - I use SH4 here as an example. I paid for that on release and it was buggy as hell.....so once bitten twice shy....now I wont pay a penny till I KNOW its working as expected.

It isn't my fault that some eejit biz head at Ubi has discredited the quality of their company by allowing a product to be released prior to completion surely?

What's worse is UBI could use pre-ordering rates as indication of cost projection.....but not any more, they really did throw the baby out with the bath water when it came to SH4.

Oh well, you reap what you sow....etc.

[Lord Justice]

Authorities have rightly priced? as for the bugs, it is in vain to extenuate the matter.:)

[Kaleun_Endrass]

£26.99
Pre-order Price Guarantee: order now and if the Amazon.co.uk price decreases between the time you place your order and the release date, you'll be charged the lowest price.
Well then I would say just order it.

[Sailor Steve]

They can reduce the pre-order price to 1 penny for all I care.... i'm still not touching it till its been put through its paces by members of this community.
Me too. In fact, if we get everybody to act that way there won't be any sales at all. That'll show them!

[ETR3(SS)]

Though I appreciate the logic of buyin it when it's cheap....I would be playing into the hands of people who feel they can release crap before it's finished - I use SH4 here as an example. I paid for that on release and it was buggy as hell.....so once bitten twice shy....now I wont pay a penny till I KNOW its working as expected.

It isn't my fault that some eejit biz head at Ubi has discredited the quality of their company by allowing a product to be released prior to completion surely?

What's worse is UBI could use pre-ordering rates as indication of cost projection.....but not any more, they really did throw the baby out with the bath water when it came to SH4.

Oh well, you reap what you sow....etc.

Me too. In fact, if we get everybody to act that way there won't be any sales at all. That'll show them!I can understand what both of you are trying to say. And as I've said many a time before we're damned if we do and damned if we don't. So the real question here is, how did we get to this point? How did we arrive at the point that we are so blindly willing to accept mediocrity in our games just to keep a series alive? I've given up on many a sereis of games because of how the latter versions developed (CoD, C&C, and BF to name a few). I hope I don't have to give up the SH series as well.

[bigboywooly]

Me thinks Steve was being a lil tongue in cheek there ^^

[Uber Gruber]

Hey no offence to you SS but if you wanna live in a world that your attitude implies then good for you. As for me, i'll keep striving for quality....we can be craftsmen, or machines. Which one would you want to be.

[JScones]

Me too. In fact, if we get everybody to act that way there won't be any sales at all. That'll show them!
Well, maybe then they'd get the hint to start pushing quality products on release rather than after four or five patches and the hope that modders will come through to save the day. ;)

There's a lot of "we must buy this game to keep the series alive!" posts around here, but all that does is give Ubi a license to produce crap. I mean, if you know that people will buy your product regardless of content, you're gonna cut corners aren't you? Now imagine if you are a large capitalist corporation that exists on profit. Not too hard to realise that the blind lemming attitude does no more than hit the buyer, in both enjoyment of the game and the hip pocket.

For the record, I will buy SH5 on release (like I did SH3 and SH4), but I totally understand anyone feeling apprehensive and preferring to wait. That's not a reflection on them, mind you, but on the damage that Ubi does to its own reputation through releasing incomplete games that go "unpunished" by lemming buyers.

[KlassenT]

Well, color me an optimist, but I'm taking it as a good sign that they're not pushing out an unfinished and bug-ridden release just to make the holiday sales season. That's happened a fair many more times than I'm sure any publisher would own up to, but perhaps their ducks are finally in a row on this one? :: shrugs ::

[Rapt0r56]

Well, color me an optimist, but I'm taking it as a good sign that they're not pushing out an unfinished and bug-ridden release just to make the holiday sales season. That's happened a fair many more times than I'm sure any publisher would own up to, but perhaps their ducks are finally in a row on this one? :: shrugs ::
Good opinion, i hope so.
But i will preordering it just because i can't wait.:DL

And Welcome to SubSim. :salute:

[Webster]

There's a lot of "we must buy this game to keep the series alive!" posts around here, but all that does is give Ubi a license to produce crap. I mean, if you know that people will buy your product regardless of content, you're gonna cut corners aren't you? Now imagine if you are a large capitalist corporation that exists on profit. Not too hard to realise that the blind lemming attitude does no more than hit the buyer, in both enjoyment of the game and the hip pocket.


when sh3 came out i read all the bad stuff about it and said "screw that game, its crap"

then a year or two later gw 1.0 i think (befor gwx was made), i read that the game was finally patched enough to work properly and mods had made it more playable so i bought it (out of the discount rack at great savings) i bought it "only" because of hearing this and the cheap price made it well worth buying.

when sh4 came out i wanted it very much but waited to hear the early reports and i was glad i did not buy it. after patch 1.2 i bought the game (at a 50% discount) only because it was reported to be playable at that point "but not before IMO"

it took patches to make sh3 worth buying, it also took patches to make sh4 worth buying, but admittedly only 2 and not 4 like sh3 did.

i hope sh5 is good to go as released but unless i hear it reported as such, i WILL wait for the first patch to be released before i buy sh5. i just dont see the logic in doing otherwise.

now my point of view may be slanted by monetary concerns because i am on an extremely tight budget with no money to be spent on extras so maybe if i had the money to take chances on a new release game that may not be a game i want to keep then i might view it differently.

also i am one of those people who looks for a way to get a discount and even a $10 difference in price can truely mean a lot to my monthly budget as to weather i eat hot dogs or pot roast. truth be known i really cant afford video games on my budget but i sacrafice to do it anyway.

[JScones]

How long after release was it before SH4 was discounted?

[Webster]

How long after release was it before SH4 was discounted?

right at about 1 year exactly i think they started giving sales and discounts here in the U S

right now you can get sh4 "gold" with ubm on disk for $10 with free shipping at newegg :o

[Keef Kavannah]

as i expect various implementations (read: Expansion packs) i'll wait. got my sh4 on eaby for 12 euros. wait and one dat yer shV will pass on the river in front of you, dead. hopefully still working, though.

[Pacific_Ace]

I post here part of a post I made some days ago on the Ubi SH5 forum because it seems to be relevant to what some of you are saying. I think it gives insight into how Ubi thinks about it's products and customers. It is why I will never buy a new release from them. I wait for patches and mods.

"I just came across a rather illuminating quote by UBI CEO Yves Guillemot. He states in their 3rd quarter (2009) earnings statement that "However, as some of our games did not meet the required quality levels to achieve their full potential they need more sales promotions than anticipated."

Three thoughts come to mind.
#1 They have no problem at all sending crap out the door. Well we kinda already knew that huh?
#2 Once they've sent crap out the door, they would rather pay more money to sell you their crap than spend it on fixing the crap you just bought from them.
#3 Here now we have Facebook, which cost them money to set up. Marketing money. Logically speaking one can assume that they already know SH5 is crap and are acting accordingly."

[Uber Gruber]

@Pacific Ace

Thankyou so much for that gem....absolutely brilliant! Sort of justifies my endless rantings these last 30 odd years. :salute:

[Arclight]

when sh3 came out i read all the bad stuff about it and said "screw that game, its crap"

then a year or two later gw 1.0 i think (befor gwx was made), i read that the game was finally patched enough to work properly and mods had made it more playable so i bought it (out of the discount rack at great savings) i bought it "only" because of hearing this and the cheap price made it well worth buying.

when sh4 came out i wanted it very much but waited to hear the early reports and i was glad i did not buy it. after patch 1.2 i bought the game (at a 50% discount) only because it was reported to be playable at that point "but not before IMO"

it took patches to make sh3 worth buying, it also took patches to make sh4 worth buying, but admittedly only 2 and not 4 like sh3 did.

i hope sh5 is good to go as released but unless i hear it reported as such, i WILL wait for the first patch to be released before i buy sh5. i just dont see the logic in doing otherwise.

now my point of view may be slanted by monetary concerns because i am on an extremely tight budget with no money to be spent on extras so maybe if i had the money to take chances on a new release game that may not be a game i want to keep then i might view it differently.

also i am one of those people who looks for a way to get a discount and even a $10 difference in price can truely mean a lot to my monthly budget as to weather i eat hot dogs or pot roast. truth be known i really cant afford video games on my budget but i sacrafice to do it anyway.
But you did eventually buy the games. :)

You are right to hold out if you can scarcely afford it. But if everyone adopts the same attitude, even if they can afford to just buy it when it hits the streets, there will be no more SH.

I'll buy it when I can, if only to support it. I don't care if I have to shelve it a few months, or even a year. I'll do what I can to keep this thing going, even if I have to wait a bit for a patch to come along.

[Sailor Steve]

Hey no offence to you SS but if you wanna live in a world that your attitude implies then good for you. As for me, i'll keep striving for quality....we can be craftsmen, or machines. Which one would you want to be.
That's a valid point, and I would agree, but my point is true as well - if nobody buys it until somebody else gives their impressions, then we'll never know whether it's any good or not, because no one will have told us. Then your striving for quality won't matter, because we'll all be sitting on our high horses with no game to play.

And I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your desire to wait - just the "even if it's only a penny" statement.

Me, I'd spend a penny for it even if it sucked, just so I could say I had one.:sunny: