Homeless Again...

[Sailor Steve]

Well, it happened. I didn't have any steady income for far too long, so my friend and I got evicted from the place we were at.

The good news is I started a cool job two months ago, working at one of the best used and rare bookstores anywhere - Sam Weller's in downtown Salt Lake City. I worked there part time for a few weeks, and then they needed me full time. So now I sell books and talk about books and get discounts on books.

The bad news is that it was too little too late. We were far enough behind in the rent that they didn't care that we could now afford to pay - they just wanted us gone. The other bad news is that while I love the job, it's only minimum wage, so saving up money takes a lot longer.

The good news is that this time around we can afford to make plans. We're staying in a cheap motel until we can get into the homeless shelter, and once there I'll be able to save up enough money to get a car and a place.

And the band is still playing, so I'm not complaining at all.

[Task Force]

That sucks steve... good luck.:up:

[SS107.9MHz]

Hang On man, and good luck! Hope it all turns out well

[AVGWarhawk]

Dang Steve,that was some life sucks but it all good posts I have ever seen! Good luck man!

[SteamWake]

It really makes me happy that you have a positive outlook and are striving to overcome your difficultys. :salute:

You keep that attitude up and you will be just fine :yeah:

[Skybird]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rkNBH5fbMk

:yep:

:up:

[Oberon]

Damn Steve, life just keeps trying to sucker punch you doesn't it? Good to see you're rolling with them though. Keep your chin up, and if we can help you, just ask. :yep:

[Schroeder]

That sucks big time.:down:
I hope you can find a good home again soon.
At least you have a job.:yeah:

[Shearwater]

I wish you all the best. I just hope you won't stay in that shelter for too long.

Keep up that attitude :up:

[CaptainHaplo]

You'll be one of the things I talk to the Big Guy about - stay strong old friend.

[Torplexed]

Distressing to hear about your circumstances regarding housing, but glad to hear you've found a full-time job you like. :up: Bravo!

[TarJak]

Keep your chin up mate. Won't be long and you'll be back on track.

[Stealth Hunter]

1) Buy Van
2) Play Music
3) ???
4) PROFIT!!!

Good luck mate.:up:

[kiwi_2005]

All the best Steve I hope one day your finally settle in your own apartment or home and never have to experience being homeless ever again. Your book job sounds really cool.

[Onkel Neal]

Sorry to hear that, Steve :-? You are the prefect fit for a bookstore, too. I would love to have a nice bookstore where I could discuss literature with someone like you.

Let me know if I can do anything to help. I'm looking for a job myself, I know how it feels.

Neal

[Dowly]

Sorry to hear that, Steve. :-?

Just remember; The farther you fall, the higher you bounce back up in the end. :salute:

[Jimbuna]

Oh Steve, mate... I sometimes think that if it weren't for bad luck you'd have no luck at all :hmmm:

I'm fully confident you'll bounce right back as always....the good uns always do.

When your settled and have a permanent physical address, I hope you'll forward it to me.

The best of British mate http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[NeonSamurai]

I am also sorry to hear that. At least you are not up the creek with out a paddle. I wish you good luck, fortune, and a home again soon.

[HunterICX]

Sorry to hear it Steve, hopefully thing will improve soon!

HunterICX

[mookiemookie]

I'm sending positive vibes your way, Steve. Good luck!

[Sailor Steve]

Damn, DAMN, DAMN!

Pardon the language, but I just got seriously disgusted with the US Postal System!

Part of not having an official residence is the problem of recieving mail. So I go to the post office to rent a PO box, and find out they have a new policy, and a new application to fill out.

Two forms of ID are required (nothing new there).

1) Picture ID. Driver's license. Check.

2) Passport, Visa or Green Card. I'm a US citizen, so I don't have any of those.

3) Proof of homeowner's insurance. Nope, don't own a home, or I wouldn't be homeless.

4) Proof of car insurance. Nope, don't own a car.

That's about it. Curiously, they won't take a Social Security card as a form of ID, and I don't have a copy of my birth certificate.

Bottom Line: Even though I have the money, they refuse to rent me a Post Office Box. I have to use General Delivery until I can sort it out. Needless to say I wrote a polite but angry e-mail to the Post Office, and today I'm calling their complaint line (at least they have one!).

Otherwise things are going alright. I won't say great, but only because I can't use my own computer right now, and can't play SH3 and 4. On the other hand, once I'm in the shelter I'll be able to save up for a car, a place, a new computer, band equipment, and all the other important things.:rotfl2:

[AVGWarhawk]

I think Kinkos or the UPS Store has mail boxes to rent.

[Sailor Steve]

Maybe, but the advantage to a PO box is that the Post Office keeps them in the outer lobby, which is open 24/7.

I'll get this worked out somehow.

[AVGWarhawk]

Will they accept a library card as ID? :hmmm:

[Sailor Steve]

Dunno. I didn't think of that one. Well, they're only a block away, so I'll pop down there when I get off work in an hour. Thanks for the suggestion.

[FIREWALL]

Past rent receipts , past utilitie bills or any other mail sent to past address ? Recent.

[AVGWarhawk]

Yeah, Firewall is right here with past bills that you have a receipt for. The are good for identification.

[McBeck]

Considering the punches you are taking Steve, you sure have a positive outlook on life - Im impressed!

Good luck getting settled again and congrats on the fulltime job :D

[Castout]

Be strong Steve. All will be okay. The economy is already picking up though its effect on the job opening is lagging behind. I wish you'll get a better paying job that you like soon.

My thoughts are with you tonight.

[Reece]

Sorry to hear about this news Steve, my dear Mother passed away Thursday (5th),:cry: so I missed the thread, hope your situation is sorted out for the best ASAP, chin up.:yep:
Cheers,
Reece.

[McBeck]

Sorry to hear about this news Steve, my dear Mother passed away Thursday (5th),:cry: so I missed the thread, hope your situation is sorted out for the best ASAP, chin up.:yep:
Cheers,
Reece.
Sorry to hear that Reece...

[Takeda Shingen]

I'm sorry Steve. Some guys get all the breaks, or so they say. Personally, I'd like to meet those guys. Then take their stuff. :DL

You keep a remarkably even keel through the whole thing, and I find that to be the trait that I most admire in you.

[KeybdFlyer]

I have to hand it to you Steve, your positive outlook is much to be admired - damn, I get almost suicidal when we have to leave a note on the door explaining why we can't pay the rent in full that month! Keep that attitude mate - I hope it all works out for you soon, I'm sure it will.

@Reece My extreme sympathies to you and your family. Mother's are always the tops and to lose one's own is a hell of a blow.

[longam]

Part of not having an official residence is the problem of recieving mail. So I go to the post office to rent a PO box, and find out they have a new policy, and a new application to fill out.

Two forms of ID are required (nothing new there).

1) Picture ID. Driver's license. Check.

2) Passport, Visa or Green Card. I'm a US citizen, so I don't have any of those.

3) Proof of homeowner's insurance. Nope, don't own a home, or I wouldn't be homeless.

4) Proof of car insurance. Nope, don't own a car.

That's about it. Curiously, they won't take a Social Security card as a form of ID, and I don't have a copy of my birth certificate.


Is it me or does this sound like discrimination? It seems they want to know where you live and if you cant prove it then your SOL. Isn't the whole reason of getting a PO box is because you need a common place for mail to arrive? That sucks...

[Reece]

Not to hijack thread but thanks guys, she was 82 and suffered much, all she wanted was to die so it was really a good thing! I'll miss her though:cry::oops::yep:
Back on track:
You are going through a genuine hard time at the moment Steve, please keep us informed! Hope your luck changes from bad to good very soon!:yep:

[August]

Sorry to read this Steve but I know that you'll bounce back eventually.

[Castout]

Sorry to hear about this news Steve, my dear Mother passed away Thursday (5th),:cry: so I missed the thread, hope your situation is sorted out for the best ASAP, chin up.:yep:
Cheers,
Reece.

You have my condolence.

I admire Steve positive outlook on life. He seems able to detach himself his identity with other things in life which is not him.:up:

Many people have strong attachment to their title, position or career or wealth that they would feel utterly destroyed should they lost them.

I believe that people no matter how seemingly different on the outside and on the social ladder are actually so much alike.

[Sailor Steve]

Not to hijack thread but thanks guys, she was 82 and suffered much, all she wanted was to die so it was really a good thing! I'll miss her though:cry::oops::yep:
I'm sorry to hear that too. My dad is 81 and doing okay so far. I've never actually lost someone that close, but I know the time isn't far off. I'm glad your mom's suffering is over, but I know it's still hard.

Me? My problems aren't really so bad. I just like to talk about myself.:dead:

[Reece]

Me? My problems aren't really so bad. I just like to talk about myself.:dead:We're staying in a cheap motel until we can get into the homeless shelter, and once there I'll be able to save up enough money to get a car and a place.Basically being thrown in the street with nowhere to go is pretty bad, and even cheap motels are not really cheap, hope you can shift into your new home soon!:damn:
Cheers.:oops::up:

[geetrue]

"Rocks in the water don't know they have it made compared to us rocks in the sun" Crejoe saying

Hang in there Steve you have street smarts get use to proving who you are

flow with times ... it's not good enough just to be white anymore ... lol

[Jimbuna]

Please accept my deepest sympathy Reece.

[Reece]

Thanks Jim, funeral tomorrow, not looking forward to that understandably!:oops::cry:

[Schroeder]

Sorry to hear that Reece. I've lost my father about five months ago and I know how you are feeling.:cry:

[LiveGoat]

Sorry you're going through troubles, Steve. I'm only just getting out of a similar situation myself. Had to sell nearly all my possessions, including my beloved Ludwigs. You'll pull through it, I'm sure of it.

[nikimcbee]

Hey, Steve, You know I'm always good for lunch:D. My sister's baby is due in December and she live out that way, maybe if I scrape up some money, I'll take you out to lunch and we can chat. I really enjoyed that.:salute:

It's too bad you couldn't get a job at the library there, that would be a perfect job for you.

[Reaves]

Best of luck Steve. I remember last time you had problems and was wrapped when it turned out ok.

Let's hope you're settled for SH5!!

[Sailor Steve]

Well, I recently got some good news and some bad news.

The Good News: The cheap motel was indeed starting to get not-so-cheap, when my band's drummer broke up with his girlfriend and suddenly needed help paying the rent. I moved into a spare room last Wednesday and it will help us both out a lot. I now have rides to and from practice, as well as a place to set up my own computer. I haven't done that yet but I'm using his, which resides in a back room.

The Bad News: The bookstore job isn't working out as well as I'd hoped. I love it but the big bosses decided I wasn't exactly the fit they were looking for. I'll be out of work at the end of this month. At least I'm paid up through the end of the year, so I should be able to come up with enough money to stay for now, if not actually get ahead.

Easy come, easy go.

[Reece]

Easy come, easy go.If only it was.:cry:
Sorry to hear of the bad news, I thought the motel would end up being too expensive for long term,:down: hopefully another job is just around the corner!:yep:
Good Luck!:salute:

[Torplexed]

The Bad News: The bookstore job isn't working out as well as I'd hoped. I love it but the big bosses decided I wasn't exactly the fit they were looking for. I'll be out of work at the end of this month.


Nooooo! :damn: That sounded like a cool job too. :cry:

[nikimcbee]

Which bookstore was it?

[Jimbuna]

Sorry to learn of the job loss Steve....chin up, one door closes and another opens. :up:

[Sailor Steve]

Which bookstore was it?

Sam Weller's, arguably the best used and rare bookstore in the West (arguably because there's also Powell's in Portland, Oregon). I love the place, and have been afraid to ask what I'm doing wrong.

Doesn't matter anyway - tomorrow's my last day.

[Skybird]

I know that I would be unable to accept this way of life's going with such apparent calmness - I would be driven mad by existential fears. I admire your attitude and the way you take all this. I really wish you that things will turn for the better in the near future. If Fortuna crosses my way anytime soon, I will have a serious word with her, promised.

Kopf hoch! :up:

[Platapus]

Sailor Steve,
what types of jobs are you qualified for and are you willing to relocate?

[Reece]

I know that I would be unable to accept this way of life's going with such apparent calmnessThis could be a brave front put on for this forum, in reality Steve may be quite depressed, I'm sure I would be!:oops: I really hope a new job is just around the corner!:hmmm:

[Sailor Steve]

I know that I would be unable to accept this way of life's going with such apparent calmness - I would be driven mad by existential fears. I admire your attitude and the way you take all this. I really wish you that things will turn for the better in the near future. If Fortuna crosses my way anytime soon, I will have a serious word with her, promised.

Kopf hoch! :up:
I'm aware of the possibility that it's the other way around - the calmness and acceptance might be the cause rather than just a way of coping.

what types of jobs are you qualified for and are you willing to relocate?
None and no. That's the quick joke answer. I've been warehousing for most of my life, but I'm getting to an age where bending and lifting are a pain (figuratively and literally). I'm sort of okay at research, but my background is limited. I have a lot of knowledge, but teaching is out due to lack of formal schooling.

I might actually relocate for a job that seemed right to me, but right now I'm also reluctant to let my musical friends down. It's a real dilemma.

This could be a brave front put on for this forum, in reality Steve may be quite depressed, I'm sure I would be!
Again, it's just the opposite. It took me awhile to find out, but I've suffered from depression most of my life. I'm manic-depressive actually, and I think part of the reason for my ease in dealing with it is simply that I'm in an up phase right now. I could just as easily be curled up in my bed and not talking to anybody, if past behaviour is any indication. We'll see how tomorrow goes.

The part that bugs me the most is the realization that I've had several opportunities for a real career, and passed on all of them. Now I'm at an age when I should be looking forward to retirement, and instead I'm looking for another entry-level job. How's that for depressing?

[Reece]

The part that bugs me the most is the realization that I've had several opportunities for a real career, and passed on all of them. Now I'm at an age when I should be looking forward to retirement, and instead I'm looking for another entry-level job. How's that for depressing?Yeh that would kinda suck!!:-? I never got the job I wanted due to uncontrolled circumstances, had to carry on though, the job I took was out of necessity, after 16 years and a mild nervous breakdown I threw it in!!:yep: But as you say tomorrow is another day!:up:

[Platapus]

None and no. That's the quick joke answer. I've been warehousing for most of my life, but I'm getting to an age where bending and lifting are a pain (figuratively and literally). I'm sort of okay at research, but my background is limited. I have a lot of knowledge, but teaching is out due to lack of formal schooling.



No openings at Hill?, Dugway, Tooele, Wendover, or Lakeside Military Center?

The part that bugs me the most is the realization that I've had several opportunities for a real career, and passed on all of them. Now I'm at an age when I should be looking forward to retirement, and instead I'm looking for another entry-level job. How's that for depressing?

That does suck, and you are right be bugged at yourself. I know a bunch of my old troops in the same situation. It is a tough one to get out of I am afraid. I truly wish you the best of luck.

[onelifecrisis]

Damn. I hope it turns out okay for you Steve.

[Skybird]

I'm aware of the possibility that it's the other way around - the calmness and acceptance might be the cause rather than just a way of coping.

This psychologist would have been a bloody bastard telling you that in the first on a public board, right? ;) It speaks for yourself that you imagine this possibility all by yourself. I hope you are given the opportunity to make something of this insight. The grim truth about life is that effort and investment alone do not decide our fate, but that we also depend on having a little bit of luck. In this meaning I wish you good luck indeed. :up:

Oh, and on that bipolar thing - make sure, if you can, you have gotten some kind of assistance/help BEFORE the pendulum swings into the opposite direction. I must not tell you that you will lack the energy to do that once your mood is the other way around.

[OneToughHerring]

There ought to be something suitable with some military establisment, maybe dealing with military historical research. With all the money that Bush poured into the military there should be some left even after the wars. Especially given your status as a vet, don't they tend to help the vets out? If not, shame on them. :nope:

[Sailor Steve]

No openings at Hill?, Dugway, Tooele, Wendover, or Lakeside Military Center?
None that I've seen. I actually worked at Hill AFB for a year. I try not to dwell on the fact that if I'd stayed there I would have retired in 2001 with a 30-year Federal pension.

I must not tell you that you will lack the energy to do that once your mood is the other way around.
I've already experienced that one a couple of times.

As for the job, we'll see what comes up.

[SteamWake]

Sam Weller's, arguably the best used and rare bookstore in the West (arguably because there's also Powell's in Portland, Oregon). I love the place, and have been afraid to ask what I'm doing wrong.

Doesn't matter anyway - tomorrow's my last day.

You cannot be terminated without reason.

[mookiemookie]

You cannot be terminated without reason.

Unfortunately in "at will employment" states like Texas and Utah, you can.

[SteamWake]

Unfortunately in "at will employment" states like Texas and Utah, you can.

Probably true, then again I realize Poor Steve was hired as a 'temp'.

Still I would at least ask the reason for my termination unless I was aware of the reason.

[FIREWALL]

Sorry to learn of the job loss Steve....chin up, one door closes and another opens. :up:



Jims right. Explore the possibilities. :up:

[VonHesse]

Hey Steve, sorry to hear about the rough road. Been in a similar situation myself, though I'm only in my 30's. Been a mover for the last dozen years, and like you said it's beginning to be a "pain." Always been able to just get by, but now that my knees and back are wrecked, I've got zero skills besides knowing how to pick things up. Lame.

I've also dealt with depression my whole life, and for me, being a "know-nothing mover" doesn't help at all. Being stuck in a rut is depressing, and yet they're hard to get out of because they're so comfortable and farmiliar.

About a year ago, I ruined my back, and though I can still "get by", the clock is ticking as to for how much longer. Anyways, what I did, and what I recommend is to go to college and get some kind of degree. There's all kinds of financial aid out there, some free - some not, but even the ones you have to pay back have decent payment plans and interest rates.

Go back to school, Steve. Find something you love or something you've always been interested in and take some classes, maybe even get a degree. Me, I've always been fascinated by machining and tool making, so I'm going to a community college and in another year I'll have an associates degree in machine manufacturing technology.

With my part time moving job and school loans, I am just barely able to make it, but I am making it. In a years time I'll have a degree and hopefully an entry level job making &16-18 an hour. Same as what I'm making now, but that's entry level vs. 12 years experience, and I'm good with that. Two and a half years in school will cost me about $15,000, but you get 10 years to pay it back. Gonna be about $250 a month & I'll be able to swing that.

Also, going back to school has really helped with my depression. It's amazing how good you can feel when you prove to yourself that you are capable of improvement, especially when you're doing it for yourself.

Anyways Steve, from being in a similar situation, that's my advice to you. Go back to school, and find a skill/trade you can love. That, and stop listening to the voices that say "you can't". Drown them out with "I WILL"

The longest journey begins with a single step. Much love, and good luck brother.

[Snestorm]

Use your Navy clout. You earned it.

Your discharge papers are acceptable ID at any US government agency, including the USPS.

[Platapus]

Getting an education is still one of the best investments you can make. :yep:

[Sailor Steve]

You cannot be terminated without reason.
I wasn't the 'perfect fit' they were looking for. That's about it in a tiny family-owned store.

Getting an education is still one of the best investments you can make. :yep:
I agree. Unfortunately I have nothing to invest. I keep running into snags trying to get somebody else to pay for it. But I keep trying.

[Aramike]

You cannot be terminated without reason.Like Mookie said, in many states there's a thing called "At Will Employment".

As much as it sucks in this situation and although I used to think that the concept was wrong, awhile back a conversation with my neighbor and good friend changed my perspective.

He owns a Temp service, and our families met up for drinks one night recently. Somehow the concept of At Will Employment came up. I was squarely in the camp of employers needing a reason to fire someone. He was in favor of current "At Will" laws.

He gave me a great example supporting it. Essentially, he had a sales manager working for him that was scheduled to attend a meeting with a very lucrative potential client. On that day, said manager didn't show up, and it was later determined that said manager had found another job and simply decided to quit without informing anyone.

Said manager's move possibly cost my neighbor in the area of over $1 million annually.

His point was this: the employee had NO legal obligation WHATSOEVER to retain his business as an employer, even to the point likely losing a massive sum of money (which would have added to the bottom line and have paid dividends by way of raises and bonuses to his other employees). Why then should the employer have ANY legal obligation to the employee?

I happen to agree with him.

It's too bad that, in some situations it harms one of our own, but At Will Employment is, in my opinion, only fair.

Sorry to digress and take this conversation off-topic. Just had an opinion I wanted to share.

Btw, Steve - if you have some contact information and some basic background you can PM me, that same neighbor is affiliated with companies in your area and may be willing to help. I know you never ask for anything, but please, PM me your situation and I'll see if I can help you out. No promises, but no good man should stand alone in his time of need.

[geetrue]

Never give up ... always keep looking, but sometimes you got to look at the chart on the chart table.

You say you have friends in Salt Lake, a bonding, a connection so to speak.

Fine, but what keeps you in Salt Lake City, Utah ... Fear of failure?

It's too cold there Steve ...

Find a friend that will ship your stuff for you to you when you get a job:

A: in a warmer location like San Diego

B: YMCA it till you have a job

C: Contact VA hospital for a ID card and a check up

D: Apply for VA Vietnam pension fund (it's for vets that served during the Vietnam war that can't get their act together after they came home) (you know for killing so many people left some of them a little crazy, but the 3 billion dollar fund is for everryone that served) as a homeless person.

Do it at any VA admin city with your DD-214 form

E: Never give up ... faith and fear don't go together

Out of these three faith, hope and love ... love is the strongest bond

If we were having lunch I would say the same thing ... hang in there and get yourself to a US Navy friendly city with vets that care. :yeah:

[Sailor Steve]

You say you have friends in Salt Lake, a bonding, a connection so to speak.

Fine, but what keeps you in Salt Lake City, Utah ... Fear of failure?
Nope - these guys:
http://www.myspace.com/monkeyrumband

More than just friends. They are my whole life.

It's too cold there Steve ...
Says who? I love the winters here.

A: in a warmer location like San Diego
Grew up in L.A. I like Utah.

B: YMCA it till you have a job
Not much different from being in the Homeless Shelter. Been there, done that. I have a place for now.

C: Contact VA hospital for a ID card and a check up
I've had my VA card for 20 years now. I get checked there every six months.

D: Apply for VA Vietnam pension fund (it's for vets that served during the Vietnam war that can't get their act together after they came home) (you know for killing so many people left some of them a little crazy, but the 3 billion dollar fund is for everryone that served) as a homeless person.
I've looked into that. Actually it's for victims of Agent Orange. I don't qualify.

[Sailor Steve]

Well, it happened. I found a new place, but after two months my flaky new roommate got himself (and me) evicted. I spent the last two nights on a cot in what they call the 'Overflow Shelter'. Not too bad really - it beats living outside.

All my stuff is safe in storage. The only downside is that I can't play any games. I can still work on the Ship Names mod here at the library, and that's what I spent most of my time on anyway. That, and the band, which is still going, so there may be some money there sometime, but not soon.

The biggest aggravation is that I could have done all this two months ago and had a lot of money in the bank. Instead it's happening now and I spent most of it. Oh well, fair return for it - I had my own room for two more months.

I have a couple of applications in at different places, and the VA Pension might be available for me after all. Won't know for awhile though.

[Jimbuna]

That is sh!te news mate :nope:

I'm gonna say a few words for ya tonight :up:

Here's hoping the current dark cloud has a golden lining :sunny:

[sergei]

Only just found the General Topics forum, so only just latched on to this.
I am also in a bad situation Steve.
After 20 years of doing a skilled job I find that the skilled job I can do is no longer needed. I am now unemployed trying to find if I can do something else.
Not trying to hijack this thread. Just letting you know that you are not alone in this situation.
Best of luck Steve, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

Dave

[frau kaleun]

Fingers and toes crossed here. Hope something comes through for you soon.

[sergei]

OK Now I have taken the time to read the whole thread properly.
I commend your positive attitude.
Good luck mate.
I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you.

If anything is going to get you through this dark time it is this.

I have found that sometimes it is good enough just to know that you have people thinking about you and rooting for you in your darkest times.
Sure, objectively you know that it can't possibly make any difference.
But subjectively, I think it makes all the difference in the world.
You are not alone.
Good luck mate.

Dave
:up:

[THE_MASK]

Best of luck to you mate . I once worked with a fellow who told me that his father told him to become a typewriter mechanic , you will have a job for life he told him .

[Platapus]

Best of luck to you mate . I once worked with a fellow who told me that his father told him to become a typewriter mechanic , you will have a job for life he told him .


That's why I always thought porn would be a good career.

In porn, unlike the legitimate theater, there are no such things as small actors, only small parts. :wah:

Let's just say I did not meet the minimum system requirements. :oops:

[Sailor Steve]

Not trying to hijack this thread.
Not at all. I spent a year-and-a-half in and out of shelters, ending two years ago when I got into a place. Made it work for awhile. I had a thread going that whole time too.

Anyway, I have a roof and a couple hundred roommates, so I'll survive. And I have Subsim, so I have lots to read (not to mention an endless supply of books from the library) and plenty to keep me busy.

Now I'm off to dinner.

[Carotio]

Someone mentioned porn (those performers are usually more or less naked), and you once mentioned you're playing in a band from time to time. It just reminded me of that crazy guy in New York City, the half-naked cowboy who plays in the streets. I don't know if he earns a lot of money, but he sure got some attention that way.

Maybe you need to have a great idea like he did, combining it with the music, which you love. I don't know how willing you are to move to another city if that's what it would take to become succesfull (whatever that means). But maybe you just need to think in new directions. Not indicating that you should be a porn perfomer while playing the guitar though... :har:

Just venting some of my crazy philosophical ideas....:know:

[Reece]

That is a real sh!t Steve,:cry: I can only hope that you find something soon, you need to socialize a bit more, find yourself a rich dame, problems solved!!:03:

[bookworm_020]

That's why I always thought porn would be a good career.


Not anymore. The internet has cut into porn profits, as people can get it free instead of paying!

Back to topic. Sorry to hear about your situations and hope they improve.:up:

[DarkFish]

Not indicating that you should be a porn perfomer while playing the guitar though... :har:what do you think of being a guitar player playing a porn performer?:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ebWv3T8qLc

(BTW, even though the youtube title says "uncensored", this is the censored version. For the uncensored version you'll have to search on porn sites:))

[Carotio]

what do you think of being a guitar player playing a porn performer?:D(BTW, even though the youtube title says "uncensored", this is the censored version. For the uncensored version you'll have to search on porn sites:))

I just say: Rammsteins P. video is sooooooo last year, and no, I don't need to search any such sites, I allready have it on a harddrive somewhere... :haha:

[Ships-R-Us]

Steve, As I mentioned, I realize your life is in Salt Lake city but if you have a need my 24' travel trailer in the back yard is hooked up w/all utilities and available. Hoping something breaks for you fast....Doug

[Sailor Steve]

I guess this needs an update. As of February 1 I've been on the streets again. The 'friend' who invited me to stay with him in December took my money and then didn't pay the rent.

I'm surviving. Obvious, since I'm coming to the library and posting every day. The band is still recording (at home - there's no money in it) and I'm getting unemployment while I look for work.

[SteamWake]

The 'friend' who invited me to stay with him in December took my money and then didn't pay the rent.

Just great... and I suppose it isnt worth litigating as usual.

Hope your 'luck' turns for the better soon. :salute:

[krashkart]

Holy **** Steve, I didn't know (hadn't found this thread yet). I hope a job comes through for you soon. Went without a home myself for a time, but nobody ever ripped me off. Guess I don't know what else to say, although "hang in there bud" has crossed my mind.

[August]

Damn Steve, hope your luck improves some day.

[Jimbuna]

Better times ahead Steve :sunny:

[Sailor Steve]

Well, I've left this hanging for two months, and things are improving - sort of.

I still haven't found a job I can do, but just a couple of days ago I got a call from a VA rep. She wanted to know when I was ready to move.

Move? I've been living in the homeless shelter for almost three months now, and I had no idea what she was talking about. Well, when I first met her back in November apparently she put me on a list for VA housing and I just plain forgot.

So today I was placed in a program for displaced veterans and moved into what is essentially a hotel room. Small, but it has everything I need (including internet) and it's a whole lot better than having 400 roommates.

So I should be online for myself in a few days and not have to come to the library any more. And cook my own food. And sleep in or stay out late if I need to.

[CaptainHaplo]

Great news brother! Will keep ya in my thoughts when I next speak with the big man.

[Reece]

Good news Steve, let us know when you are settled in, you can give us a description/layout of the apartment!:yep:

[Sailor Steve]

Well, so far it looks just like a hotel room.:D

[UnderseaLcpl]

Glad to hear you got a good place to stay, Steve. And look! You have a good place to hang out and post on Subsim, too! Hopefully, your luck is turning!:salute:

[Reece]

Well, so far it looks just like a hotel room.:D

single room, window, bed location, carpet, cupboards, sink, stove, toilet, is it quiet, run down, etc etc etc!!:hmmm::D

[frau kaleun]

This is good news indeed, hope the upswing continues!

[Randomizer]

Very glad to hear that something is going your way. Best of luck in your new digs.

[Chad]

That's great Steve! Maybe things will turn completely 180 and you'll be back up in no time :DL

[Arclight]

Good news, want to hear more of that. :yep:

[TarJak]

Great news. I hope the library throws you a nice going away party.:DL

[Castout]

Hang in there Steve. Take care of your health.

[Schroeder]

Finally some good news.:woot:

[HunterICX]

I hope this time things will only go better for you Steve, best of luck!

HunterICX

[Jimbuna]

Great news. I hope the library throws you a nice going away party.:DL

I wonder where we read that the other day Steve :DL

As stated earlier....I'm over the moon for ya. Tis no more than you deserve :sunny:

400 roommates eh :hmmm:

No need to carry that 'soap on a rop'e around your neck now I guess :D

[Sailor Steve]

single room, window, bed location, carpet, cupboards, sink, stove, toilet, is it quiet, run down, etc etc etc!!:hmmm::D
All of the above, and it's just newly renovated, so it's like brand new.:sunny:

Oh, and there's a fitness center too! Maybe I won't be so unskinny no mores.

[August]

Oh, and there's a fitness center too! Maybe I won't be so unskinny no mores.

Ain't our country great? Where else in the world do homeless people have overweight problems? :D

[Sailor Steve]

Ain't our country great? Where else in the world do homeless people have overweight problems? :D
:yep: Ain't it the truth?!

HEY! Do you think I could sue the soup kitchens for making me this way?

[August]

:yep: Ain't it the truth?!

HEY! Do you think I could sue the soup kitchens for making me this way?


You may have a case. Get Johnny Cochrane on the phone!

[Sailor Steve]

You may have a case. Get Johnny Cochrane on the phone!
Might be a little hard. Maybe Denny Crane?

[longam]

Congrats man, now you can whip up some ramen noodles in style. :yeah:

http://www.rasmussen.edu/articles/ramen-noodle-recipes.asp

Hell, I still eat em.... nom nom nom

[Jimbuna]

I wonder where we read that the other day Steve :DL

As stated earlier....I'm over the moon for ya. Tis no more than you deserve :sunny:

400 roommates eh :hmmm:

No need to carry that 'soap on a rop'e around your neck now I guess :D

Well...having been overlooked.........I hope it's not too tight a fit :doh:

[NeonSamurai]

Might be a little hard. Maybe Denny Crane?

He probably wouldn't take your case unless you were female and he could feel you up some (or more). Plus of course there is the whole mad cow thing.

Stay away from the ramen, that stuff is loaded with fat (palm oil and the like). Read the label on it some time, might shock you.

[August]

Stay away from the ramen, that stuff is loaded with fat (palm oil and the like). Read the label on it some time, might shock you.

Not only lots of fat but lots of artery clogging saturated fat. That stuff is a heart attack generator.

[Flopper]

Not only lots of fat but lots of artery clogging saturated fat. That stuff is a heart attack generator.

Yeah I can't stand that it's so bad for you. I've eaten a ton of it, but try to stay away from it now. :wah:

Good luck at your new place, Steve.

[Sailor Steve]

Well, I'm kinda sorta settled in, which is why I haven't been online for a few days. Tomorrow I'm hoping to get all my stuff (mostly 40-or-so boxes of books) moved from one storage unit to a much cheaper one, and then get my computer set up. I was thinking about having to pay for a satellite online setup, but now all I have to buy is a usb wi-fi thingie, because they have free wireless internet. By Sunday I should be up and running, but that might be delayed by a day or two as it's been 20 degrees faranheit colder than usual here and snowing of-and-on.

Already got my DVD player and some of my favorite movies out of storage, so I'm set for now.:sunny:

[Jimbuna]

One step at a time mate....one small 'positive' step at a time.

You send me your physical address when your settled....you hear me?

[frau kaleun]

all my stuff (mostly 40-or-so boxes of books)


Are you sure you're not my long-lost older brother? :D

Great to hear how things are working out, awesome about the free wi-fi! :rock:

[Sailor Steve]

Are you sure you're not my long-lost older brother? :D
I do have a sister a couple of years older than you, and a brother about your age. Actually I spent four years a decade ago working in a book distributor's warehouse. Any books that were damaged were written out of the system and employees could take them, the horrible limit being no more than three books per day. Once I was in the returns department I found out I could write off any book I pleased, so I got a bunch of brand-new stuff for free. I would still be with them, but in 1998 the parent company moved them to Charlottesville, Virginia, and they didn't take me.

I would love to still work there, and I'd love to live there. The company's address is now on James Madison Drive.

[Reece]

When setup how about a picture or two!:yep:

[frau kaleun]

Any books that were damaged were written out of the system and employees could take them

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_p7P3NDyPeis/Rp2cCcDinqI/AAAAAAAAAI8/n-7LxpqK-VI/s200/drooling+homer.jpg

[August]

all my stuff (mostly 40-or-so boxes of books) Are you sure you're not my long-lost older brother? :D

If either or both of you come to the subsim meet this year Mrs. August and I might get a chance to show off our personal library to some fellow book lovers.

[frau kaleun]

If either or both of you come to the subsim meet this year Mrs. August and I might get a chance to show off our personal library to some fellow book lovers.

I sometimes want to cry for all the books I've had to part with over the years, some due to space constraints but a lot of them lost to water damage when two different basements where I stored things at different times got partially flooded.

My high school library put out about a dozen boxes of "discards" the year before I graduated. Guess who lugged them all home? Me, 3 books at a time, lol.

Somehow I've managed to squeeze 8 "full size" bookcases into the living room and bedroom of my very small apartment. Some of the shelves don't hold books, but most do, and they're slowly but surely filling up again.

I once had someone walk into my apartment for the first time, look around, and say, "Soooooo... I take it you're a reader?"

To which the only appropriate answer is, "Not really," said with as straight a face as possible. :O:

[Sailor Steve]

Well, I've been here for a week, and finally got some of my stuff here, including the old computer thingie. They have wi-fi, so I got an adapter and here I am posting from my own room.:sunny:

Already loaded some of the SH3 mods I downloaded to my flash drive while I was out and about. Good stuff!:rock:

[krashkart]

Great news Steve. So, how much room do you have to move around in now? :DL

[August]

To which the only appropriate answer is, "Not really," said with as straight a face as possible. :O:

Sorry that I missed this post frau.

Well you got us beat as we only have about six full size cases worth of books, but we do have some real good ones though and a decent selection of topics. The latter being mostly due to Mrs. Augusts much wider tastes in literature than mine, which are mostly military related.

[frau kaleun]

Well, I've been here for a week, and finally got some of my stuff here, including the old computer thingie. They have wi-fi, so I got an adapter and here I am posting from my own room.:sunny:

Already loaded some of the SH3 mods I downloaded to my flash drive while I was out and about. Good stuff!:rock:

I was just wondering when you'd get settled in and set up and check in here again - yay! :D

Great news Steve. So, how much room do you have to move around in now?

The entire Atlantic, from the sound of it. :O:

[frau kaleun]

Well you got us beat as we only have about six full size cases worth of books, but we do have some real good ones though and a decent selection of topics. The latter being mostly due to Mrs. Augusts much wider tastes in literature than mine, which are mostly military related.

I have two cases of novels and one of other non-novel "literature" like poetry, drama, lit-crit, etc. But mostly I have non-fiction, I hardly even read fiction any more (unless it's a Terry Pratchett book :rock: or I need a break from "reality.") Probably a third of the space taken up by novels is Terry Pratchett books, lol. I've given away or sold or traded probably three times the number of novels I still have. Most of the ones I've kept are either "classics" or related to something I have a non-fiction interest in as well. Or they're books I'm emotionally attached to, like the ragged paperback copy of Moby Dick I read in high school and won't get rid of even though I have a nice hardback copy now. (All my notes are in there! I thought some very deep and important thoughts at 16! :O:)

Most of the non-fiction is archaeology/history/biography, religion/mythology/folkore, or psychology-related. Some martial arts books and a few math/science books.

Someday, I will start reading them as fast as I acquire them. :D

[August]

Most of the non-fiction is archaeology/history/biography, religion/mythology/folkore, or psychology-related. Some martial arts books and a few math/science books.

Sounds much like our collection. When you and Steve come for the Subsim meet we'll sit you in a comfy chair and stick a book under your noses so you'll feel right at home! :DL

[AVGWarhawk]

Well, I've been here for a week, and finally got some of my stuff here, including the old computer thingie. They have wi-fi, so I got an adapter and here I am posting from my own room.:sunny:

Already loaded some of the SH3 mods I downloaded to my flash drive while I was out and about. Good stuff!:rock:

Well good for you Steve in finding a place! :yeah: Enjoy!

[les green01]

:yeah:good to hear steve

[KL-alfman]

Well, I've been here for a week, and finally got some of my stuff here, including the old computer thingie. They have wi-fi, so I got an adapter and here I am posting from my own room.:sunny:

Already loaded some of the SH3 mods I downloaded to my flash drive while I was out and about. Good stuff!:rock:


great to hear you're back into the world of SH!
(what do you think of rik007's water-mod?) :up:

[Sailor Steve]

Great news Steve. So, how much room do you have to move around in now? :DL
Move around? I squirm in my chair sometimes, but why would I want to move away from my computer? Oh, yeah. Excersize, eating, stuff like that.

Actually it's something like 12 x 12. It's an average hotel room.

The entire Atlantic, from the sound of it. :O:
:rotfl2:
All in good time. Right now I'm fiddling with the latest mods and getting my new careers set up. Be on patrol very soon.

[Jimbuna]

SINK EM ALL!! http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[CCIP]

Good to hear you'll be back to sailing the seas with us Steve :)

Not the greatest arrangement, especially for a man with so many books, but hey, it's something right? I actually live in a room I'm renting that's about 9x9ft myself, and it's been pretty tolerable. Sadly most of my books, CD boxes and models had to go (though are safe in my parents' basement). On the other hand I've managed to squeeze a full two desktop PCs in here :doh:

But hope something comes along with work soon and things get even better.

Looking forward to reports from your patrols though :up: