View Full Version : What about Jürgen Oesten?
I was wondering if Jürgen Oesten is still giving advice to the dev team :hmmm:
That man surely knows more about the u-boat war than any of us.
I hope you're not gonna announce me that he passed away!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%BCrgen_Oesten
java`s revenge
10-21-09, 03:02 PM
And i can`t find the interviews anymore....:cry:
oscar19681
10-21-09, 03:14 PM
That would be cool! But if he was technical adviser for SH-3 what could he possibly add to sh-5? I,m sure he gave the information he new
This would still be cool. Because I think it makes a difference wether someone like him monitors the development of the game in its process or it is just remembered what he had said 4 years ago.
Just had to say this: I have a hand signed autographed picture & U-Boat print (multiple) of Jürgen Oesten!!:cool:
mookiemookie
10-21-09, 09:35 PM
Just had to say this: I have a hand signed autographed picture & U-Boat print (multiple) of Jürgen Oesten!!:cool:
As do I :cool:
As do I :cool:
Reece, Mookie,
Where did you get that then?
That would be cool! But if he was technical adviser for SH-3 what could he possibly add to sh-5? I,m sure he gave the information he new
Well, to me SH3 (i mean vanilla SH3) was very basic.
SH5 must have a lot more depth, so he could still give some very useful advice (particularly with crew interaction and reaction) and add to realism.
The man spent nearly 600 days on patrol, i'd be surprised if he would have told everything he knew, but i may be wrong.
http://www.uboat.net/men/oesten.htm
And i can`t find the interviews anymore....:cry:
Did you mean these interviews: http://silenthunteriii.com/uk/videos.php
Snestorm
10-22-09, 12:45 AM
Well, to me SH3 (i mean vanilla SH3) was very basic.
SH5 must have a lot more depth, so he could still give some very useful advice (particularly with crew interaction and reaction) and add to realism.
The man spent nearly 600 days on patrol, i'd be surprised if he would have told everything he knew, but i may be wrong.
http://www.uboat.net/men/oesten.htm
Ja, and even beyond his early war accomplishments, he survived 2 late war patrols in a IXD2.
The man is realy someone to look up to, and respect. I do.
I was reading his story on u-boat.net and i just noticed that it will be his birthday in 2 days, what a coincidence!!
He will be 96, i wish him happy healthy long life :woot:
Reece, Mookie,
Where did you get that then?Some on eBay & some just Google for, most of the quality stuff comes from the UK.:yep: Here's are some:
http://www.subart.net/
http://www.pzg.biz/
http://www.marineverband.at/
http://sonic.net/~books/sub.html (http://sonic.net/%7Ebooks/sub.html)
http://www.u-boot-archiv.de/
http://www.marhistorical.com/dosearch.php3?featured=1
http://myspace.epier.com/jerrymyr/
There are many others, can't remember them all, the last one, at the top, just do a search for example "Erich Topp"!!:03:
Highbury
10-22-09, 03:59 AM
Did you mean these interviews: http://silenthunteriii.com/uk/videos.php
Thanks for the link...
Gotta wonder why UBI is still running a poll asking:
"How much are you looking forward to SH4?" lol
java`s revenge
10-22-09, 09:07 AM
Did you mean these interviews: http://silenthunteriii.com/uk/videos.php
Yesssss, these !!!!!!! :yeah:
mookiemookie
10-22-09, 09:17 AM
Reece, Mookie,
Where did you get that then?
http://www.military-art.com/mall/default.php
Highbury
10-22-09, 02:12 PM
It is odd that in the Jürgen Oesten interviews he states clearly that they had no devices to detect thermal layers, and they certainly didn't have someone calling it out. One of the people doing the interview (someone on the dev team?) specifically questions him on it, he says no. Didn't happen. The interviewer says that it is interesting, and mentions that they had it in SHII.
Makes you wonder why then, with that info from a veteran of the U-Boat service, they still included it in SHIII ( and 4).
mookiemookie
10-22-09, 02:31 PM
It is odd that in the Jürgen Oesten interviews he states clearly that they had no devices to detect thermal layers, and they certainly didn't have someone calling it out. One of the people doing the interview (someone on the dev team?) specifically questions him on it, he says no. Didn't happen. The interviewer says that it is interesting, and mentions that they had it in SHII.
Makes you wonder why then, with that info from a veteran of the U-Boat service, they still included it in SHIII ( and 4).
A U-boat POW of the time backs up Mr Oesten as well:
A reliable prisoner stated that he was acquainted with the Bathythermograph which bears the German nick-name of “Lachs” (literally “salmon”). As far as he knows this is never carried by U-boats on patrol but he thought that it was built into weather buoys. It might be carried by boats carrying meteorologists. If a boat remains submerged for a long time it is constantly to take samples of the water every half hour to determine the density. This might be done more frequently if the boat shows a tendency to rise or fall.
http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-172INT.htm
Some on eBay & some just Google for, most of the quality stuff comes from the UK.:yep: Here's are some:
http://www.subart.net/
http://www.pzg.biz/
http://www.marineverband.at/
http://sonic.net/~books/sub.html (http://sonic.net/%7Ebooks/sub.html)
http://www.u-boot-archiv.de/
http://www.marhistorical.com/dosearch.php3?featured=1
http://myspace.epier.com/jerrymyr/
There are many others, can't remember them all, the last one, at the top, just do a search for example "Erich Topp"!!:03:
Reece & Mookie,
In the UK they have the very best on War I(I) such as the Imperial War Museum and Royal Air Force Museum. Both are fantastic. Funny they still have stock of painting signed by Otto, Erich etc. A good investment in these days! :DL
Rik
It is odd that in the Jürgen Oesten interviews he states clearly that they had no devices to detect thermal layers, and they certainly didn't have someone calling it out. One of the people doing the interview (someone on the dev team?) specifically questions him on it, he says no. Didn't happen. The interviewer says that it is interesting, and mentions that they had it in SHII.
Makes you wonder why then, with that info from a veteran of the U-Boat service, they still included it in SHIII ( and 4).
US boats were able to detect the layer. So no reason it should not have been in SHIV.
Snestorm
10-23-09, 04:01 AM
US boats were able to detect the layer. So no reason it should not have been in SHIV.
1: How?
2: Why? (Japan didn't have ASDIC).
java`s revenge
10-23-09, 04:45 AM
And Joergen tells that sh3 is more difficult then it was in real life..
1: How?
2: Why? (Japan didn't have ASDIC).
The layer effects all underwater acoustics.
Snestorm
10-23-09, 11:18 PM
The layer effects all underwater acoustics.
Oh.
Thanks.
Torplexed
10-23-09, 11:43 PM
1: How?
Most American subs after 1943 were equipped with a bathythermograph. A device which could detect a thermocline.
http://www.fleetsubmarine.com/bathythermograph.html
2: Why? (Japan didn't have ASDIC).As far as I know Japan did have sonar. Not as good as the Allied or German sets but they did possess it.
Snestorm
10-24-09, 01:25 AM
Most American subs after 1943 were equipped with a bathythermograph. A device which could detect a thermocline.
http://www.fleetsubmarine.com/bathythermograph.html
As far as I know Japan did have sonar. Not as good as the Allied or German sets but they did possess it.
Thanks, Torplexed.
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