View Full Version : And the nonsense never stops......
AVGWarhawk
10-13-09, 06:51 PM
ALBANY, Ore. - At the Oaks Apartments in Albany (http://www.ci.albany.or.us/), the management can fly their own flag advertising one and two bedroom apartments - but residents have been told they can't fly any flags at all.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/64059697.html
Really, I'm getting tired of this notion of offending someone. PC is really out of control and out of hand.
Platapus
10-13-09, 07:11 PM
And why would anyone think that an apartment manager can tell anyone what they can fly from their vehicle?
From the building, sure, for technically it belongs to the management company. But if any apartment manager told me what I could not could not display from my automobile, I would just shrug and ignore them.
And why would anyone think that an apartment manager can tell anyone what they can fly from their vehicle?
From the building, sure, for technically it belongs to the management company. But if any apartment manager told me what I could not could not display from my automobile, I would just shrug and ignore them.
What happens then when you get an eviction notice?
Platapus
10-13-09, 07:18 PM
I think the courts would be interested in a case where a landlord is trying to tell citizens what they can display on their private property.
The worst the landlord can do is say that the renters can't park in the apartment parking lot.. but even that might piss off some judge.
Tribesman
10-13-09, 07:21 PM
What happens then when you get an eviction notice?
You check the fine print of the lease to make sure your personal transport has nothing to do with a property arrangement, then sue the bastards for malicious prosecution and breach of contract and take the whole apartment block off them.
Platapus
10-13-09, 08:00 PM
It is important for people to realize that just because someone tells you to do something you don't necessarily have to do it.
You check the fine print of the lease to make sure your personal transport has nothing to do with a property arrangement, then sue the bastards for malicious prosecution and breach of contract and take the whole apartment block off them.
If I ever need a break from reality can I come visit you in your little world? :DL
GoldenRivet
10-13-09, 09:01 PM
What happens then when you get an eviction notice?
you burn the effin place down :D
you burn the effin place down :DA wise decision Grasshopper!!:D
I find flags to be very offensive.
I find flags to be very offensive.I don't like your flag Reaves!!:nope::O:
nikimcbee
10-13-09, 10:43 PM
wow, this story has made subsim:haha:. This has been all the rage this week on the local radio show. I think it's weird because Albany isn't part of the Portland axis of communism around here. It's not that big of a town.:dead:
Tribesman
10-14-09, 02:55 AM
If I ever need a break from reality can I come visit you in your little world?
You don't know how to use the legal system do you.:rotfl2:
You don't know how to use the legal system do you.:rotfl2:
Yeah and like you do...
"Take away the whole apartment block". Just like that right Clarence Darrow? :roll:
Tribesman
10-14-09, 07:41 AM
Yeah and like you do...
Well you clearly don't do you.
:har::har::har::har::har:
Ever heard of punitive damages august?
Very handy when you can show the action amounted to malicious prosecution and it means you can not only sue them for actual damages it means you can really take them to the cleaners to teach them a lesson.
Perhaps you had better stick to talking about constitutional issues that you don't know about rather than simple legal issues that you don't know about August. As at least constitutional issues are more complex so you have more of an excuse for not understanding them.:rotfl2:
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AVGWarhawk
10-14-09, 08:26 AM
So the thread I started was about a flag and not being able to display it. It apparently has come from the commie part of the country according to Nikimcbee and no one here knows how to use the legal system but we are ready to pull a slander suit on anyone who attempts to try my patience. :yeah: Excellent!
Tribesman
10-14-09, 09:45 AM
no one here knows how to use the legal system but we are ready to pull a slander suit on anyone
Its in writing so its libel.:up:
the thread I started was about a flag and not being able to display it.
Thats standard(excuse the pun), it is rented property. the lease contract should stipulate everything from flags, banners, signs, poster , washing lines , outside lighting, window boxes .....pretty much everything really . Add to that local ordinances which cover all buildings and it can get complicated.
The chances are the flag ban on the apartment is perfectly legal and the residents have agreed to it on their lease. It probably only became an issue when they realised they had agreed to it by which time its too late.
The apparent "ban" on flags on vehicles however is another matter entirely .
Property leases do have plenty of clauses about your vehicle and its access/storage on site, also maintainance legal compliance and all that stuff , but flags???? ..... not likely, about as likely as a ban on bumper stickers or personalised plates.
mookiemookie
10-14-09, 09:52 AM
Resident we talked to who had been approached to take down their flags all told us the same thing: that management told them the flags could be offensive because they live in a diverse community.
While I understand what they're getting at here (someone flies an Israeli flag, the other guy gets pissed and puts up a Palestinian flag, etc etc) this is dumb. If you're offended by the American flag, you can (putting on my redneck hat here) get the hell out of America then.
AVGWarhawk
10-14-09, 10:06 AM
While I understand what they're getting at here (someone flies an Israeli flag, the other guy gets pissed and puts up a Palestinian flag, etc etc) this is dumb. If you're offended by the American flag, you can (putting on my redneck hat here) get the hell out of America then.
You look good in that redneck hat :shucks:
Well you clearly don't do you.
:har::har::har::har::har:
So again your whole argument boils down to "I know you are but what am I?" No wonder so many people have you on ignore...
Tribesman
10-14-09, 02:30 PM
So again your whole argument boils down to "I know you are but what am I?"
Ah another demonstration of your reading difficulties.
So the problem isn't undestanding law or constitutions , its a simple inability with the English language that holds you back.
No wonder so many people have you on ignore...
Oh my heart bleeds, I am so devestated :woot:
So then August, what is the next subject to want to jump in to show how absolutely clueless you are on it ?:rotfl2:
It does seem to be a habit you have, jumping straight in telling others they are wrong when you demostratably havn't got the faintest idea.
Go on, one last chance to show are not completely thick August.
After all it was a very very simple question.
Ever heard of punitive damages august?
Would you like the question in smaller easier words?
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Aramike
10-14-09, 04:23 PM
So again your whole argument boils down to "I know you are but what am I?" No wonder so many people have you on ignore...:yep:
What is it about arguing with idiots again? They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience...
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What is it about arguing with idiots again? They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience...
:DL That is so true.
SteamWake
10-15-09, 01:28 PM
Looks like they changed their mind... so much for all the experts :haha:
An Oregon apartment complex reversed its ban prohibiting residents from flying American flags from dwellings and parked vehicles after the property manager decided she didn't have the legal standing to do so, KATU in Portland reported Wednesday.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,566740,00.html?test=latestnews
Tribesman
10-15-09, 04:20 PM
Looks like they changed their mind...
Not surprising , the ban couldn't have legally covered what is on the vehicles.
Safe-Keeper
10-15-09, 06:54 PM
Don't understand what all the fuzz is all about anyhow. So the landlord, for aesthetic reasons, wanted there to be less decorations about. So what? Who said there has to be a thousand flags for every square kilometre of US soil?
Then again, I'm not from a country that obsessively puts the flag on everything from bumper stickers to underwear, so I guess I just don't understand.
No wonder so many people have you on ignore... Was that August? I have her on ignore, so I wouldn't know :D .
Tribesman
10-15-09, 06:57 PM
Who said there has to be a thousand flags for every square kilometre of US soil?
China.
Here in Australia some councils stop people from flying the Australian flag on their own property ... A case of nothing better to do than flex their muscles!!:nope:
FIREWALL
10-15-09, 08:03 PM
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That guy in the red shirt is sure smiling alot for just preforming the "Heimlich" procedure. :haha:
Here in Australia some councils stop people from flying the Australian flag on their own property ... A case of nothing better to do than flex their muscles!!:nope:
Who puts these councils in power?
Who puts these councils in power?They are classed as local government, we may pay taxes etc but don't have much say, they pretty well are a law of their own!!:x
They are classed as local government, we may pay taxes etc but don't have much say, they pretty well are a law of their own!!:x
So vote them out, or are they appointed?
You can vote them out but you have little others to choose from (who wants the job, they are basically Politicians), and doesn't seem to matter who gets in anyway the laws never change. There have been a number of times when some of the stupid laws end up on the news, but even then rarely change, the only other way is to protest with signed petitions but even that mostly fails & most residents, like me, just give up/put up!:-?
PS. Don't really call them public servants, more like public masters!!:doh:
Tribesman
10-16-09, 03:05 AM
Here in Australia some councils stop people from flying the Australian flag on their own property ...
That is a simple matter of local planning permission and by-laws
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