Old school sub simmer needs help

[MK2]

I have played sub sims since commodore 64 but I got distracted the last 19 years with every imaginable flight sim. :D
I am back, I installed SH4 , having a great time sinking ships , have a super high end PC and would like to make the water look better(or anything else).

I read about ROW and have tried every download site as well as the search engine here . I have gone through at least 18 threads and can not find a download link (BTW not even for RE of any release).
I also searched the download section and only found a reference to reflections on water in TMARU-Patch_1.6.3.7z , I would prefer to simply add ROW.

Does anyone have a place where I can actually go and download the ROW mod (or a better mod that makes the water look better?). Can someone PM me or send it to me via email?

I can't even find the sticky to a bunch of threads that mention it (thread not found.....abounds..).

Thank you in advance for any help...I just want to play.

[magic452]

What version of the game are you running, SH4 1.4 or SH4 1.5 U Boat add on?

If V1.5 I would suggest Environment 5 at this link:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=142700%5B/URL

If V1.4 try this link:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=138663

Magic

[MK2]

I am running 1.5 but tried the link you posted and it does not work. It is says file not found.

Is this it?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=605

[Rapt0r56]

I'm sure it is, look at the Autor. :up:

[MK2]

Thanks for the response. The mod looks great but since i just started playing the game I was really only looking for the reflection on water mod (I just want the water ot look nicer).

The 1.5 environmental mod requires the isntall of the following:

1. Trigger Maru, updated to beta_170
2. RSRDC_TMOv163_V410 Patched to 2.0
3. OpsMonsun_V700 Patched to 3.0
4. SCAF1.5_RSRDCv410
5. REAL ENVIRONMENTS 1.0 By kriller and W_Clear

Is there a download for ROW by itself? if not I guess I will just play the stock game.

[magic452]

MK2 that is not the right mod, try that link again. It works for me.
Environment 5 is a stand alone mod that doesn't require any thing other than V1.5.

If it still won't work use this one:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=155786
It will take you to all big mods available. You can check out 3 different environmental mods there.

If these links don't work go to Silent Hunter III-4-5 > Fleetboats mods workshop and look for the mods sticky.

[MK2]

I appreciate all the help but the links simply do not work (the actual download does not work, not the link to the thread, it's the actual download that does not exsist). In the thread you post the last person posting also say "link does not work".

can you verify the link is not working or working? if it works, can you tell me what page on the thread and what post in case I missed it?

Thanks again

[magic452]

Sorry I didn't think to try to down load. :damn:

Try this one it's real environmental. This time it did the down load and it works :know:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=149596


Magic

[MK2]

Magic thnak you again but it looks like we are were we were a few posts ago, the only link I found in the thread you point to is RE 1.5


The 1.5 environmental mod requires the isntall of the following:

1. Trigger Maru, updated to beta_170
2. RSRDC_TMOv163_V410 Patched to 2.0
3. OpsMonsun_V700 Patched to 3.0
4. SCAF1.5_RSRDCv410
5. REAL ENVIRONMENTS 1.0 By kriller and W_Clear

Is there a download for ROW by itself? Or any other mod that is simply a mod that makes the ocean look better?

I can barely find a mod that the download works in all these threads so I find it highly unlikely that I will find any of the mods posted above.

it's a shame that someone has not taken up the task of organizing and preserving all the mods for SH4 ina central location. i did it wiht the flight sim community and created www.combatace.com (http://www.combatace.com)

[ETR3(SS)]

Magic thnak you again but it looks like we are were we were a few posts ago, the only link I found in the thread you point to is RE 1.5


The 1.5 environmental mod requires the isntall of the following:

1. Trigger Maru, updated to beta_170
2. RSRDC_TMOv163_V410 Patched to 2.0
3. OpsMonsun_V700 Patched to 3.0
4. SCAF1.5_RSRDCv410
5. REAL ENVIRONMENTS 1.0 By kriller and W_Clear

Is there a download for ROW by itself? Or any other mod that is simply a mod that makes the ocean look better?

I can barely find a mod that the download works in all these threads so I find it highly unlikely that I will find any of the mods posted above.

it's a shame that someone has not taken up the task of organizing and preserving all the mods for SH4 ina central location. i did it wiht the flight sim community and created www.combatace.com (http://www.combatace.com) There's plenty of mods hosted here at Subsim. Some people seem to be sadists and prefer uploading their files to FileFront again, and again, and again though.

[MK2]

Ok I found PE4 and the Sound Mod and installed them and they seem to be working just fine.

Does PE4 do anything to the difficulty of the sim? It seems a lot harder after I installed it.

Here is the link to the stuff mentioned above
http://www.silenthuntermods.com/forum/index.php?topic=144.0

[sergei]

Does PE4 do anything to the difficulty of the sim? It seems a lot harder after I installed it.

The thing is - as I understand it the capability of the enemies sensors is directly affected by the environment you are running.

For example, TMO has it's own environment model (a tweaked version of Kriller and WClears model I think) and then Ducimus has tested and tweaked the Japanese escorts to make them work within that environment.

If you then go and enable another environment mod on top of that the escort sensors may well not work as intended. They may well be much more or much less effective.

That's not to say you can't stick your own environment mod of choice on top of TMO (or RFB for that matter) if you prefer the eyecandy of that particular model.
But be aware, TMO/RFB will probably not run as designed. You'll have to put up with that.

[MK2]

Thanks fore the repsonse. Right now I am running stock game 1.5 with only the PE 4 and Sound mods installed.

I would really like to play with stock difficulty (as I learn the game) but get the better graphics.

[Rockin Robbins]

Real Fleet Boat will leave you with escorts that have stock abilities but with a somewhat easier to damage submarine, especially on the surface. I recommend that highly if you aren't happy with the gameplay balance of stock plus an environmental mod.

I'd accept the changes and stay as you are for now until I learned boat handling and worked enough attacks to be familiar with attack setup. Any effects you have on gameplay are likely to be fairly minor and well within acceptable range. After all, how do the environmental modders test their creations?

I think it's the interaction of environmental mods with supermods, especially TMO that gets a bit tricky. Have fun!

[MK2]

Thanks for the repsone, well since my last post I installed TMO 1.7 to my SH4 1.5 and the sound mod and I am all in. LOL! (no PE installed just SH4 1.5, then TMO 1.7 then ROW sound mod.

I guess it is literally sink or swim now with difficulty. I have been training at the Sub School last night and a bunch today and will go out on my first patrol tomorrow...wish me luck :DL

EDIT * actually I coudl not wait and tried it tonight, started right after pearl out of Midway in a Tambor class, was ordered to go to marshall islands and await further orders. Made enemy contact half way there and engaged. I sunk my first 1800 tons a Japanese sub at night!

I took 84 hull damage during the running combat. I guess i have to go read up on what that means.

[magic452]

You found a IJN sub on your first patrol!!!! :yeah: I've been playing for a long time and haven't seen one yet.

One of the things 84% damage means is that it's a very good idea to return to base. Welcome to TMO.

You might think about playing one of the war patrols starting in late 43 or 44, you will have radar than and it will make things easier till you get more experience. Also a better boat.

Life Guard is a fun one, if you look south east of the star you can find a carrier task force that has no escorts. Plus you can see US planes attacking the TF. There are escorts around but if you leave the merchants alone they wont bother you., at least they left me alone.
You can get all kinds of torpedo practice trying to sink all 5 CVs.
You can do a refit and go out again where ever you like and sink all kinds of stuff. It was a lot of for me, I think I played this out to the end of the war.

Of course starting like you are is very realistic, our guys were almost right out of school in reality.

Starting out with TMO can be a challenge but stick with it I know you will enjoy it.

Congrats on the sub, good luck and good hunting.

Magic

[sergei]

Two years and I've never seen an IJN sub! Congrats :DL

Good luck with the new career. TMO has a steep learning curve, had my ass handed to me on a plate many times before I learned to treat the escorts with a bit of respect (was used to the toothless stock behavior).

But you can always come back here for advice.
Enjoy :up: