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From the people who brought you 'Band of Brothers'....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e99B80crU3E
An interview with Dale Dye - Technical advisor for The Pacific, Band of Brothers and Saving Private Ryan
JRH: You recently finished work on “The Pacific” which follows the Marines in their battles with Imperial Japan. What battles can we expect to see?
DD: This new HBO miniseries is really close to my heart as a Marine. It follows my old outfit - the 1st Marine Division - through all of its major battles in the Pacific campaigns of World War II. We follow three major characters - one from each of the division’s rifle regiments, 1st Marines, 5th Marines and 7th Marines - from the opening salvos at Guadalcanal, re-fitting in Australia after the Solomons Campaign, on to Cape Gloucester on New Guinea, to Peleliu and then on to Okinawa and back home at war’s end.
JRH: How would you compare this series to “Band of Brothers”?
DD: “The Pacific” is presented in the same ten-part format as “Band of Brothers” and I think it will prove to be just as popular as the ETO series…especially among Marines and veterans of the Pacific Theater of Operations. That said, it’s very different from “Band”. It’s as different as World War II in the Pacific was from World War II in Europe. It’s much darker and more brutal but that was the nature of fighting on those Pacific islands. Just ask any veteran for confirmation of that. Tom Hanks who is one of our Executive Producers likes to say it will take the audience on a brutal journey to hell and back; the same sort of journey that was experienced by the men who fought the real battles. I think he’s right on the mark with that. From a personal perspective as the Senior Military Advisor, it was an honor and a real treat to command a unit of World War II Marines - actors and special ability extras - for a full year. As we did with Band of Brothers, we stayed in character the entire time. And the training in the jungles of Far North Queensland, Australia was really rugged. I don’t think any of the guys will ever forget that.
JRH: When can we expect to see it?
DD: We’re finishing post-production on “The Pacific” right now. HBO tells me they plan to air it beginning early in 2010. I’m trying to get them to do an exclusive preview at the traditional home of the 1st Marine Division just down the road at Camp Pendleton.
In my opinion, this looks excellant, and I'm sorry if this is a repost, but I've only just discovered it. Band of Brothers was one of the most epic TV series ever, accessible to all and a fantastic tribute to the men who ended the war in Europe.
If 'The Pacific' turns out any bit as good as Band of Brothers, then it will be a winner.
ETR3(SS)
10-01-09, 02:07 PM
Agreed. I don't have cable, but as soon as it comes out on DVD I will be buying it and it can sit right next to Band of Brothers, when I'm not watching it.
Agreed. I don't have cable, but as soon as it comes out on DVD I will be buying it and it can sit right next to Band of Brothers, when I'm not watching it.
Yup me too.
Falkirion
10-01-09, 06:45 PM
My sister's in that actually. She was one of the extras when they were filming down here in Melbourne. I'll definitely be picking up a copy.
Skybird
10-01-09, 07:00 PM
Band of Brothers was absolutely excellent and a real quality event. I especially liked it for lacking the pathos and nationalistic mood you usually would expect from an american war movie, and what still was present in Private Ryan - also a good movie, but at the end there was this certain and somewhat typical posturing that BoB was lacking. Bob just did the narration as close to the people as possible, sober - and by that so much more moving and believable than any artifical sentiment could ever manage to achieve in the audience. My biggest compliments to the creators of that series. If Pacific manages to repeat these virtues, I will get and watch it. But the standard to which I compare it - BoB - is set to "very high".
TheBrauerHour
10-01-09, 09:28 PM
I am a fan of BoB, and am looking forward to watching this as well.
Was looking forward to this when I first heard of it. The grew a tad bored and now I'm blackmailing the makers of Generation Kill to make moar of it. :haha:
AVGWarhawk
10-02-09, 08:02 AM
Band of Brothers was absolutely excellent and a real quality event. I especially liked it for lacking the pathos and nationalistic mood you usually would expect from an american war movie, and what still was present in Private Ryan - also a good movie, but at the end there was this certain and somewhat typical posturing that BoB was lacking. Bob just did the narration as close to the people as possible, sober - and by that so much more moving and believable than any artifical sentiment could ever manage to achieve in the audience. My biggest compliments to the creators of that series. If Pacific manages to repeat these virtues, I will get and watch it. But the standard to which I compare it - BoB - is set to "very high".
I liked Wallace and Grommet. The cheese selected are politically correct for the time. The cheese does not lean left or right but seems to be flavored down the middle. :doh:
Anyway, looks like a great movie and I'm sure I will purchase a DVD when available as it looks to be a keeper much like SPR and BoB. Cool find. :up:
ajrimmer42
10-02-09, 10:24 AM
Agreed, it looks fantastic, can't wait to see it.
OneToughHerring
10-02-09, 10:54 AM
Band of Brothers was absolutely excellent and a real quality event. I especially liked it for lacking the pathos and nationalistic mood you usually would expect from an american war movie, and what still was present in Private Ryan - also a good movie, but at the end there was this certain and somewhat typical posturing that BoB was lacking. Bob just did the narration as close to the people as possible, sober - and by that so much more moving and believable than any artifical sentiment could ever manage to achieve in the audience. My biggest compliments to the creators of that series. If Pacific manages to repeat these virtues, I will get and watch it. But the standard to which I compare it - BoB - is set to "very high".
Yea I liked BoB for the most part. Certain episodes seemed to be better then others. I know that it's pretty unlikely that there will be much cowardice or any cruelties of the US soldiers in these, most likely just the heroes of the 'good war'. I guess it's refreshing for Americans to escape to a simpler time when good guys and bad guys were easier to tell from one another, or so it seemed at the time.
AVGWarhawk
10-02-09, 11:22 AM
Yea I liked BoB for the most part. Certain episodes seemed to be better then others. I know that it's pretty unlikely that there will be much cowardice or any cruelties of the US soldiers in these, most likely just the heroes of the 'good war'. I guess it's refreshing for Americans to escape to a simpler time when good guys and bad guys were easier to tell from one another, or so it seemed at the time.
You are automatically assuming there will no 'cowardice or any cruelties of the US soldiers' in the movie. Why? You sound a bit bitter.
OneToughHerring
10-02-09, 01:22 PM
You are automatically assuming there will no 'cowardice or any cruelties of the US soldiers' in the movie. Why? You sound a bit bitter.
Yea, why should I doubt Hollywood to bring us anything but the truth. :roll:
On the subject of the WW 2 in the Pacific, The Naked And The Dead was a good book but the movie kind of sucked. From Here To Eternity was pretty much the same deal. Pretty much always the books are better then the movies especially when Hollywood is making the movie.
I'd like to see a movie about WW 2 that wouldn't be full of naive stuff, that'd be more realistic and would give an impartial view of the events. This kind of stuff about MoH winners etc. is kinda predictable.
AVGWarhawk
10-02-09, 01:30 PM
I see and understand what you mean. :up:
@OTH
You should be smart enough to know that there will never be (atleast in public spreading) a movie that get's down and dirty and shows how stuff really went. The winners write the history as they like. :yep:
Biggles
10-02-09, 01:33 PM
And it's a whole different thing to be in a war and to watch a movie based on it, how accurate it may be.
Or so I would believe.
Task Force
10-02-09, 06:24 PM
Oah no... does tf sence a dumb love story from that preview...
oah well, it looks pretty good.
MothBalls
10-02-09, 08:17 PM
Looking forward to the new one, really enjoyed BoB.
One thing about BoB that disappointed me, for those that didn't know better, it sure looked like that the Americans won the war. They really didn't. Although they made significant contributions, I was a little disappointed that they didn't highlight others as well. I guess it was because they followed on American unit through it.
I'd really like to see a full documentary on all of the contributions made by all contries, as well as see the war from the German perspective. i know some have been done, like the World at War series, but something modern with the same quality as BoB.
I sure hope none of them ever show up on the History Channel. The only thing they have to do with history is that they show old commercials in between garbage about everything except history.
Captain Birdseye
10-02-09, 08:26 PM
I'm looking forward to this. Dale Dye strikes me as an odd character, I don't see how he is the military advisor for most WW2 movies/games when he fought in Korea(?). Fair play to the man, but surely get someone in who was actually there?
Torplexed
10-02-09, 09:11 PM
Starring Joe Mazzello. Geez. Last thing I saw him in was Jurassic Park. Maybe they can work in a few dinosaurs on Guadalcanal.
http://www.daemonstv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/joemazzello_davidjames_thepacific-500x365.jpghttp://www.filmdope.com/Gallery/ActorsM/11413-10106.gif
I'm looking forward to this. Dale Dye strikes me as an odd character, I don't see how he is the military advisor for most WW2 movies/games when he fought in Korea(?). Fair play to the man, but surely get someone in who was actually there?
Yeah he's quite the character.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Dye
Captain Vlad
10-02-09, 11:37 PM
I guess it was because they followed on American unit through it.
Right. Band of Brothers was a dramatized/fictionalized account of stuff that happened to a particular group of guys, who happened to be members of a United States Army unit.
It wasn't meant to show the full scale of the War in Europe, so why would it not doing something it wasn't intended to do at all disappoint you? Watching it myself, I saw no implication that the U.S. 'won the war all by itself'.
Now, if you DO want to complain about a movie that did precisely that, we can shift subjects to U-571.:arrgh!:
Task Force
10-03-09, 02:05 AM
refering to the One thing about BoB that disappointed me, for those that didn't know better, it sure looked like that the Americans won the war.
WW2 was not won by the us or the allies... it was a war... wars arnt won, all that happens is one side gives in, men have still been killed and cannot be brought back.
The us didnt win the war, britian didnt win the war, russia didnt win the war... because without all of these powers, the war could have been lost by the allies.
so in the end the Allies stoped the axis powers... not the us, not britian, not russia...
MothBalls
10-03-09, 02:28 AM
Right. Band of Brothers was a dramatized/fictionalized account of stuff that happened to a particular group of guys, who happened to be members of a United States Army unit.
It wasn't meant to show the full scale of the War in Europe, so why would it not doing something it wasn't intended to do at all disappoint you?
Good point, maybe I said it wrong. I really liked BoB, I think it was one of the finest series ever created. What I meant was, I'm disappointed that I've never seen anything of that quality that really examines the war from all perspectives.
Especially from the perspective of the Germans and the Japanese. The people of those countries were victims of the war, they didn't start it. I'm sure they lived through hell, just as everyone did. I'd like to see something that shows the reality of what happened to them, documented with the same quality of BoB.
@TF Spot on. Nobody wins a war, everyone loses. I'd also like to see stuff documenting the experiences from all the participants. While some of them are still around to tell us the story first hand.
OneToughHerring
10-03-09, 07:33 AM
Starring Joe Mazzello. Geez. Last thing I saw him in was Jurassic Park. Maybe they can work in a few dinosaurs on Guadalcanal.
Big surprise given that it's a Spielberg/Hanks - co-production just like Saving Private Ryan and BoB were.
I'm sure there will be those cute Spielberg-moments in it that make the viewers chuckle at the horrors of the war.
Jimbuna
10-03-09, 02:17 PM
Looking forward to it :up:
mr chris
10-03-09, 02:28 PM
Have heard rumours about this for sometime.
Very much looking forward to seeing it.
bookworm_020
10-05-09, 05:57 AM
Looking forward to it coming out and will purchase a copy when it hits the shops!:up:
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