View Full Version : Democrats... "Apologize or else !"
SteamWake
09-11-09, 01:33 PM
Even though the man has already apologized and Obama graciously accepted thats just not enough.
The spectical must be much bigger !
House Democratic leaders announced Friday they will discipline Republican Rep. Joe Wilson next week if he does not apologize on the floor of the House for yelling "You lie" at President Obama during Wednesday's joint address to Congress.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/11/democrats-wilson-ultimatum-apology-punishment/
Meanwhile donations to Wilson's campaign have exploded :up:
I think the Dem's really need to watch their step here. There sense of immunity and being above the fray is going to lead to big trouble for them.
Aramike
09-11-09, 01:37 PM
Even though the man has already apologized and Obama graciously accepted thats just not enough.
The spectical must be much bigger !
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/11/democrats-wilson-ultimatum-apology-punishment/
Meanwhile donations to Wilson's campaign have exploded :up:
I think the Dem's really need to watch their step here. There sense of immunity and being above the fray is going to lead to big trouble for them.It was just months ago that liberals were errantly gloating about the end of the Republican Party. With the Democrats having idiots like these in office, it won't be long before conservatives are touting the end of the Democrats.
Sweet drama...
AVGWarhawk
09-11-09, 02:30 PM
Yet we have the house speaker saying the CIA is a bunch of liars. She got away with it. Just goes to show there is strength in numbers. Let's just hang the guy on the Capitol Mall on a Sunday afternoon and call it a day. :doh:
It was a foolish and inappropriate outburst. If he apologized let it go.
SteamWake
09-11-09, 02:53 PM
Yet we have the house speaker saying the CIA is a bunch of liars. She got away with it. Just goes to show there is strength in numbers. Let's just hang the guy on the Capitol Mall on a Sunday afternoon and call it a day. :doh:
Well there actually is on the books a 'rule' that members of congress shall not interrupt the president during his speaches. It has some measures for 'punishment' but I think thats for something a bit more disruptive.
But yes the apology was given and accepted lets move on shall we.. you hear me Ms. Pelosi?
Skybird
09-11-09, 03:05 PM
Funny that all that was acceptable in style and method (and even got applauded for being that blunt) if being done by Republicans and with a Republican president in office - becomes unacceptable if being done by non-Republicans, and Republicans having lost elections.
I think political america should stop talking in words, but use binary code exclusively. One party uses 0s only, the other uses 1s only. :88) That way you know immediately who is who.
Different arguments get expressed by either changing the order of one's own number sequence, or by demonising the number of the others. :up:
AVGWarhawk
09-11-09, 03:18 PM
It was a foolish and inappropriate outburst. If he apologized let it go.
:yep:
Aramike
09-11-09, 03:23 PM
Funny that all that was acceptable in style and method (and even got applauded for being that blunt) if being done by Republicans and with a Republican president in office - becomes unacceptable if being done by non-Republicans, and Republicans having lost electionsWait - I think you have that backwards.
mookiemookie
09-11-09, 03:38 PM
How was it that there was that now infamous photograph taken of Wilson in mid-outburst? Think about it...there's a lot of people in that room, and that picture was taken perfectly centered on him, and perfectly framed, taken at the exact moment he was shouting.
Strange. Ah well. I agree with the move on sentiment. He did an idiotic thing and people are pumping money into both he and his opponents coffers over it. He's apologized, and now it's just becoming a circus sideshow.
AVGWarhawk
09-11-09, 03:45 PM
How was it that there was that now infamous photograph taken of Wilson in mid-outburst? Think about it...there's a lot of people in that room, and that picture was taken perfectly centered on him, and perfectly framed, taken at the exact moment he was shouting.
Strange. Ah well. I agree with the move on sentiment. He did an idiotic thing and people are pumping money into both he and his opponents coffers over it. He's apologized, and now it's just becoming a circus sideshow.
To what end to stage such a thing though?
mookiemookie
09-11-09, 03:47 PM
To what end to stage such a thing though?
Dunno. Just thought it was either an incredible coincidence that the photo was taken or there was something more to it.
SteamWake
09-11-09, 03:56 PM
Dunno. Just thought it was either an incredible coincidence that the photo was taken or there was something more to it.
LOL a coincidence that in a room full of hundereds of people and dozens of cameras that someone caught a photo of the outburst.
Cmon :doh:
mookiemookie
09-11-09, 04:50 PM
LOL a coincidence that in a room full of hundereds of people and dozens of cameras that someone caught a photo of the outburst.
Cmon :doh:
Perfectly centered, framed and focused, taken at the exact perfect moment? C'mon...
Aramike
09-11-09, 04:52 PM
Perfectly centered, framed and focused, taken at the exact perfect moment? C'mon...http://newssohot.com/bed_bugs/pics/tinhat.jpg
SteamWake
09-11-09, 05:04 PM
Perfectly centered, framed and focused, taken at the exact perfect moment? C'mon...
Out of those dozens of cameras the vast majority of them were professional photographers with cameras that can snap off many frames a second.
Not to mention the live cams which are focused on the crowd at all times for security reasons.
Out of those many images its a good bet you can find one framed. Also theres this nifty tool called photo shop that can be used to correct such minor errors.
Sure I can see it now "Okay heres what I'm gonna do.. Im gonna lose my temper at some point and Im going to jump up and call the president a liar". "Ill rub my chin as a signal".
Cmon Mookie really.
mookiemookie
09-11-09, 05:13 PM
Cmon Mookie really.
I just thought it was funny. You know they do get a copy of the speech ahead of time.
http://newssohot.com/bed_bugs/pics/tinhat.jpg
Hey look, your garden variety Republican who kept their kid out of school the day of his "stay in school" speech in order to shield them from his Kenyan hypno eye powers! :up:
Buddahaid
09-11-09, 07:09 PM
Funny that all that was acceptable in style and method (and even got applauded for being that blunt) if being done by Republicans and with a Republican president in office - becomes unacceptable if being done by non-Republicans, and Republicans having lost elections.
I think political america should stop talking in words, but use binary code exclusively. One party uses 0s only, the other uses 1s only. :88) That way you know immediately who is who.
Different arguments get expressed by either changing the order of one's own number sequence, or by demonising the number of the others. :up:
Maybe Republicans should wear wife-beater clothing and Democrats skirts. :rock:
Buddahaid is partially awake once more! Bwa-ha-ha-ha..... Aarrrrg :arrgh!:
AVGWarhawk
09-11-09, 07:32 PM
I do not think it was staged. I would agree the photographers were clicking away like mad.
MothBalls
09-11-09, 07:41 PM
Well there actually is on the books a 'rule' that members of congress shall not interrupt the president during his speaches. I don't know for a fact, but I did find this quote;
Under House rules, you are prohibited from casting aspersions on the motivations of your colleagues. There is even a procedure for punishing those who do. You can be stripped of your right to speak for the rest of the day on the floor if your words are taken down and ruled out of order.
No such specific prohibition exists in the House for when a president is speaking because, well, it is just not done. Members understand that presidents, no matter who they are, deserve respect.
Here's the article: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/10/feehery.heckle.obama/index.html
I do agree with what he wrote in this commentary. Regardless of political affiliation or the content of the speech, he is the President, Commander in Chief, and should be respected as such.
If Wilson apologized, the President accepted it, well then it's time to move on. We have more important matters that need attention. (such as figuring out how to chill down this 12 pack I forgot to put in the fridge last night)
Bah. It's small potatoes compared to the insults thrown at our last Chief Executive. The Democrats had better grow a skin because I don't think we've seen anything yet.
SteamWake
09-11-09, 07:55 PM
I don't know for a fact, but I did find this quote;
Here's the article: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/10/feehery.heckle.obama/index.html
I do agree with what he wrote in this commentary. Regardless of political affiliation or the content of the speech, he is the President, Commander in Chief, and should be respected as such.
If Wilson apologized, the President accepted it, well then it's time to move on. We have more important matters that need attention. (such as figuring out how to chill down this 12 pack I forgot to put in the fridge last night)
Throw it in a tub with lots of ice and some rock salt :up:
The sad thing is that the Speaker is far more worried about an impromptu shouted insult than in the...say the multiple instances of (alleged) unethical and illegal conduct of Charlie Rangel.
How long has the in-House Rangel investigation been going (on not going) on?
Or in the Senate, where it has taken Chris Dodd more than a year to show us his HUD 1 Settlement Statement on his Countrywide loan.
SteamWake
09-15-09, 11:20 AM
Seems like they just cant let it go...
House Democratic leaders have decided to formally discipline Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., on Tuesday for his jeer last week at President Obama during a joint session of Congress.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/15/house-discipline-wilson-lie-outburst/?test=latestnews
All the news outlets are doing their best to spin this into a racial issue as well.
Unbelivable
AVGWarhawk
09-15-09, 11:24 AM
Well, there are certain rules to follow while in the chamber. None-the-less the demo-lition-crates will ride this like a rental car on spring break. Typical.
Well, there are certain rules to follow while in the chamber. None-the-less the demo-lition-crates will ride this like a rental car on spring break. Typical.
Good they can drive it off the cliff of failure as far as i'm concerned, or is that racist according to Maureen Dowd?
AVGWarhawk
09-15-09, 11:47 AM
The outburst was not racially motivated IMO. But who am I anyway?
The outburst was not racially motivated IMO. But who am I anyway?
Apparently according to the obama administration if you're white you're a racist.
SteamWake
09-15-09, 02:31 PM
Apparently according to the obama administration if you're white you're a racist.
Not true.
If you disagree with this adminstrations agenda your a racist.
OMG I can hear Hillary screeching "Im sick and tired of people saying that if you disagree with this adminstration your unpatriotic"... ohhhh... shivers... yetch.
Neptunus Rex
09-15-09, 07:17 PM
No comment necessary. My signature says it all.
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