Could we get away with this on SubSim®

[CastleBravo]

Welcome to the leadership of the Democratic party, and the inner circle of the Obama Administration. Such tolerance is indeed compelling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt66eWnjoTo

[FIREWALL]

Look at the Speaker and the crowd.

It should be on Comedy Club. :haha:

Name calling is all he's got ?

[AVGWarhawk]

Well, when half your cabinet are suspect of doing something illegal and or have done something illegal acting like this does not suprise me at all. I suspect Barry O will be having some words with this individual. I certainly would if I were Barry O. Then again, I'm not Barry O and really, this guy has lost any credibility if he had any.

[CastleBravo]

Well, when half your cabinet are suspect of doing something illegal and or have done something illegal acting like this does not suprise me at all. I suspect Barry O will be having some words with this individual. I certainly would if I were Barry O. Then again, I'm not Barry O and really, this guy has lost any credibility if he had any.

Obama can no sooner reject this man than he can his own mother. Paraphrase of what he said about Rev. Jeremia Wright. Cut from the same cloth.

And, 'the police acted stupidly'.

[mookiemookie]

776 posts of nothing but harping on petty politics. That's an achievement.

[Aramike]

Personally, I thought it was funny. Inappropriate, to be sure ... but funny.

[CastleBravo]

So you don't think I'm being a racist, because I know that will be the next untruth hurled this direction, check this quote from Bill Maher.

Bill Maher (So-Called Funny Guy)


"We could lose [the health care debate] because I don't think [Obama] has been tough enough...He should get mad, stop ****ing around...He just needs to drag [Americans] to it. Like I just said, they're stupid. Just drag them to this."

[CastleBravo]

776 posts of nothing but harping on petty politics. That's an achievement.

That is false and you know it.

[FIREWALL]

776 posts of nothing but harping on petty politics. That's an achievement.



Who gave you the Position to decide what can be posted and what can't. :roll:

[mookiemookie]

Who gave you the Position to decide what can be posted and what can't. :roll:

Your post would make more sense if:


It had less random capitalization and underlining in it.
Your comment had anything whatsoever to do with what I had said.

[FIREWALL]

Your post would make more sense if:


It had less random underlining in it.
Your comment had anything whatsoever to do with what I had said.


What do you know ? :hmmm: You had an Original thought for a change. :haha:

[mookiemookie]

What do you know ? :hmmm: You had an Original thought for a change. :haha:

I suppose it puts me one up on you. :woot:

[CastleBravo]

I for one am getting a bit upset with the arrogance Mookie displays because he thinks he has some special relationship with Neal Stevens.

No one asks to be insulted for asking a question Mookie answers by trolling the thread, with derogatory comments. Mookie seems to think anyone who doesn't agree with his POV and posts a reality beyond his beliefs is some kind of joker who must be put in his place. Now that is ridiculous.

[AVGWarhawk]

Obama can no sooner reject this man than he can his own mother. Paraphrase of what he said about Rev. Jeremia Wright. Cut from the same cloth.

And, 'the police acted stupidly'.

I did not say he would disown/reject him. Just some words. Not the image Obama is attempting to portray. It is the whole package deal or nothing when it comes to image.

[AVGWarhawk]

I for one am getting a bit upset with the arrogance Mookie displays because he thinks he has some special relationship with Neal Stevens.

No one asks to be insulted for asking a question Mookie answers by trolling the thread, with derogatory comments. Mookie seems to think anyone who doesn't agree with his POV and posts a reality beyond his beliefs is some kind of joker who must be put in his place. Now that is ridiculous.

Click the ignore button. Works wonders in some cases. :up:

[mookiemookie]

I for one am getting a bit upset with the arrogance Mookie displays because he thinks he has some special relationship with Neal Stevens. You're entitled to your opinion.


No one asks to be insulted for asking a question Mookie answers by trolling the thread, with derogatory comments. Mookie seems to think anyone who doesn't agree with his POV and posts a reality beyond his beliefs is some kind of joker who must be put in his place. Now that is ridiculous.

You have a predilection for posting thread after thread on the same sort of topic. I pointed that out. You're free to take that however you will. You've chosen to take it offensively. The only reason you would do so is that your self image is that of someone who doesn't post thread after thread on the same topic. When presented with something that is at odds with our worldview, our brains naturally react with either fear or anger. So the question becomes, is the issue with my observation on the evidence presented (to wit, your post history) or with your self image. Who's to say? :ahoy:

[CastleBravo]

Click the ignore button. Works wonders in some cases. :up:

I don't believe in silencing a voice, regardless of the motive or content. How could I defend myself against the slurs if I did that? It would also telegraph a fear of thought which does not exist.

It doesn't mean I cannot complain about the behavior when I find it offensive, as I do Mookies comment(s) in this case.

Cheers
CB

A look at this thread should have been an indication asto how wrong mookie was with his accusation.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=152701

[FIREWALL]

You're entitled to your opinion.



You have a predilection for posting thread after thread on the same sort of topic. I pointed that out. You're free to take that however you will. You've chosen to take it offensively. The only reason you would do so is that your self image is that of someone who doesn't post thread after thread on the same topic. When presented with something that is at odds with our worldview, our brains naturally react with either fear or anger. So the question becomes, is the issue with my observation on the evidence presented (to wit, your post history) or with your self image. Who's to say? :ahoy:


You should be in the Blimp business :yep:

Your definately full of hotair. :har:

[mookiemookie]

You should be in the Blimp business :yep:

Your definately full of hotair. :har:

Nah, it's just cognitive dissonance theory. It's a super interesting part of psychology.

[AVGWarhawk]

I don't believe in silencing a voice, regardless of the motive or content. How could I defend myself against the slurs if I did that? It would also telegraph a fear of thought which does not exist.

It doesn't mean I cannot complain about the behavior when I find it offensive, as I do Mookies comment(s) in this case.

Cheers
CB

A look at this thread should have been an indication asto how wrong mookie was with his accusation.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=152701

Bad post button works also.

[FIREWALL]

Nah, it's just cognitive dissonance theory. It's a super interesting part of psychology.


Oh How I could respond. :yep: but I was asked to show pity on you and your condition. :-?

And since you state your getting professional help I'll move on. :03:

[mookiemookie]

Oh How I could respond. :yep: but I was asked to show pity on you and your condition. :-?

And since you state your getting professional help I'll move on. :03:

That was mean. So here's a picture of a sleepy kitty:

http://www.hemmy.net/images/animals/cuteanimal2-02.jpg

[antikristuseke]

Jesus ****ing christ guys, this really is like the special olympics.

[mookiemookie]

Jesus ****ing christ guys, this really is like the special olympics.

Yep. Awaiting the inevitable admonishment from the mods for the cesspool of dumb (that I helped contribute to, unfortunately) that this has turned into.

Sorry! :oops:

[Aramike]

Jesus ****ing christ guys, this really is like the special olympics.Don't insult the Special Olympics like that. :cool:

[Dowly]

Jesus ****ing christ guys, this really is like the special olympics.

WHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA!!! :haha:

http://blagnet.net/Special-Olympics.jpg

[CastleBravo]

Don't insult the Special Olympics like that. :cool:

Our president did it. Follow the leader.......no? Fits into this thread very nicely. It shows not only the intolerance of the left, but the depths they are willing to go for their ends. Wake-up folks!!!

[Oberon]

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb59/SrgtButthole/gif/Fail_forecast.jpg

[mookiemookie]

http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/5442/878232-i_like_where_this_thread_is_going_super.jpg

[Aramike]

Our president did it. Follow the leader.......no? Fits into this thread very nicely. It shows not only the intolerance of the left, but the depths they are willing to go for their ends. Wake-up folks!!!Actually, I was making a joke about how this argument has less brain capacity than ...

Oh nevermind.

Dude, you need to lighten up and lose some of that political charge you've got going on. It can't be good for your health. :yep:

[AVGWarhawk]

Man...this thread went into the crapper. Is the moon full:hmmm:


http://themishmash.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/11/06/crapper.jpg

[antikristuseke]

Our president did it. Follow the leader.......no? Fits into this thread very nicely. It shows not only the intolerance of the left, but the depths they are willing to go for their ends. Wake-up folks!!!

Are you trying to satiricaly play the role of politcal correctness gone mad in this thread? If so, well done, you almost fooled me.
If not, lighten up a little.

Edit: Small explanation, my precious post in this thread was aimed at the silly bickering, nothing more, though this explanation is probably not necessary because people here are not that thick and my post was not that bloody cryptic.

[CastleBravo]

Yes. I would agree it went into the crapper. The question is why was a thread which accuratly portayed a man who is part of POTUS's advisors and inner circle given a pass? And insults toward the messanger of this information baited and derided?

[Tchocky]

I'd like to point out that the earth continues to rotate, squirrels (TAK!) are considering burying nuts for winter, and North Korean minisubs are still louder than a bulldozer reversing up a hill.

[Aramike]

Yes. I would agree it went into the crapper. The question is why was a thread which accuratly portayed a man who is part of POTUS's advisors and inner circle given a pass? And insults toward the messanger of this information baited and derided?You're just not looking at it the right way, man.

Look, we ALL get your point. You don't like Obama. Some of us agree, some of us disagree. But no one needs you to start thread after thread justifying that view. We get it.

Political threads are fine. Take a TOPIC that's interesting, post a point of view and invite discussion. That's how it should be done.

But what you do is take a link from the Drudge Report, cut/paste it into a thread, and say, "See? Democrats are wrong!" You're not inviting discussion. You're not even expressing a clear though-out opinion with reasonings to support your perspective. All we see are a constant deluge of threads that really don't say anything.

[CastleBravo]

You're just not looking at it the right way, man.

Look, we ALL get your point. You don't like Obama. Some of us agree, some of us disagree. But no one needs you to start thread after thread justifying that view. We get it.

Political threads are fine. Take a TOPIC that's interesting, post a point of view and invite discussion. That's how it should be done.

But what you do is take a link from the Drudge Report, cut/paste it into a thread, and say, "See? Democrats are wrong!" You're not inviting discussion. You're not even expressing a clear though-out opinion with reasonings to support your perspective. All we see are a constant deluge of threads that really don't say anything.

But the post was a question, which by the way, no one answered.

'Could we get away with this on SubSim®'?

[Dowly]

'Could we get away with this on SubSim®'?

Republicans are *******s.

Let's see.

[Oberon]

But the post was a question, which by the way, no one answered.

'Could we get away with this on SubSim®'?

Ask Subman1

[Takeda Shingen]

I'd like to point out that the earth continues to rotate, squirrels (TAK!) are considering burying nuts for winter, and North Korean minisubs are still louder than a bulldozer reversing up a hill.

Haha! You got a laugh out of me today, Tchocky. I had forgotten about that. I don't have a button down here anymore, which may prove a relief for at least one of the players in this thread. Still, here's a prediction for old times sake:

http://plainview.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/squirrel1.jpg

[Dowly]

I like squirrels. :hmmm:

[CastleBravo]

Ask Subman1

That is a good question. Why was Subman1 jailed?

The last post I saw was accurate in the facts. If it was thought too political, it has been my experience that those are the most travelled threads. its those type of threads which bring folks back to this forum. Am I wrong? perhaps Subman1 should be given some type of Subsim® award for his efforts?

[Onkel Neal]

Problem, as I see it:

A few, persistant people post the same monotonous threads over and over and over and over and over.
Others reply, point out lack of original thought, and thread has life.

I don't see what this topic has to do with Subsim. I guess that's part of the provocation, right CB?

And FW, I try to be friendly to everyone here, even those who have competely different political views. Often, they are the most intelligent and least provacative :hmmm: If you lived in Houston, worked on the Cavalla with me, came to the meetings, attended the same events... I'm sure you would find out for yourself, mate. I don't think you should call out Mookies, Nicki, Sailor Steve, or any other members I've met like that.

[CastleBravo]

I don't see what this topic has to do with Subsim. I guess that's part of the provocation, right CB?



Well the title says it all, I think. If this type of speach isn't tolorated on SubSim®, why do we tolerate it in the political realm? Why aren't these folks called out and summarily run out of town? They preach hate and are divisive. It wasn't meant to stir the pot, only to show how far we as a society have been lead down the wrong path.

[Dowly]

Well the title says it all, I think. If this type of speach isn't tolorated on SubSim®, why do we tolerate it in the political realm? Why aren't these folks called out and summarily run out of town? They preach hate and are divisive.

Subsim has it's rules, the world (or country) has it's rules.

Jebus, you should've asked it like that in the first post and we would've been over with this in a second. :03:

[Takeda Shingen]

Well the title says it all, I think. If this type of speach isn't tolorated on SubSim®, why do we tolerate it in the political realm? Why aren't these folks called out and summarily run out of town? They preach hate and are divisive. It wasn't meant to stir the pot, only to show how far we as a society have been lead down the wrong path.

You're missing the point. Why the mockery of SubSim? There's a reason. Time to man up and come clean.

[Onkel Neal]

Well the title says it all, I think. If this type of speach isn't tolorated on SubSim®, why do we tolerate it in the political realm? Why aren't these folks called out and summarily run out of town? They preach hate and are divisive. It wasn't meant to stir the pot, only to show how far we as a society have been lead down the wrong path.


I would like to believe you but I know better. This is exactly the way you operated before. Your style is a dead giveaway, and if you have anything to say about "free speech" on Subsim, it should start with allowing you to return and blather on about this crap again.

[CastleBravo]

You're missing the point. Why the mockery of SubSim? There's a reason. Time to man up and come clean.


I'm sorry, I don't recall mocking SubSim®. Just the opposite. You may have noticed the use of neals new trademark when I use the title. What are you getting at?

[Takeda Shingen]

I'm sorry, I don't recall mocking SubSim®. Just the opposite. You may have noticed the use of neals new trademark when I use the title.

Bull. It's your old game again. You must think me incredibly stupid.

What are you getting at?

Do you really want me to call you out in front of everyone here? Not that they haven't figured it out by now, but you just might get more respect that way.

[Stealth Hunter]

You're making a mistake, brah. ^^

[Dowly]

You're making a mistake, brah. ^^

Sssh, dont interrupt them! http://i.pbase.com/o4/98/583898/1/63713938.qaEEdjG9.popcorn.gif

[Stealth Hunter]

It's like a mating ritual... yes?:hmmm:

[FIREWALL]

Problem, as I see it:

A few, persistant people post the same monotonous threads over and over and over and over and over.
Others reply, point out lack of original thought, and thread has life.

I don't see what this topic has to do with Subsim. I guess that's part of the provocation, right CB?

And FW, I try to be friendly to everyone here, even those who have competely different political views. Often, they are the most intelligent and least provacative :hmmm: If you lived in Houston, worked on the Cavalla with me, came to the meetings, attended the same events... I'm sure you would find out for yourself, mate. I don't think you should call out Mookies, Nicki, Sailor Steve, or any other members I've met like that.

Where did I Call Out ANYTHING about Nicki, SS, or any other member on this thread ?

My posts were mainly with one member.

If Mookies is under your personal protection and can do and say as he pleases, Just say so. Then we all know where we stand.

When he comes to a thread and posts a rude comment because the topic doesn't agree with his world.

He should expect the negative feedback and take it like a man or as you say " Go look at one of the many other threads " :DL

[Oberon]

It's like a mating ritual... yes?:hmmm:

Sssh, you'll scare them off...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/content/images/2007/02/17/birdwatching_315x420.jpg

[Tchocky]

They got away with moider I tells ya

[CastleBravo]

Bull. It's your old game again. You must think me incredibly stupid.



Do you really want me to call you out in front of everyone here? Not that they haven't figured it out by now, but you just might get more respect that way.

Way off topic!! I'm more confused than ever.

The answer to the thread is either yes or no.

[Oberon]

Way off topic!! I'm more confused than ever.

The answer to the thread is either yes or no.

http://www.npr.org/news/specials/cuban_missile/stevenson_un.jpg

Don't wait for the translation!

[Onkel Neal]

Where did I Call Out ANYTHING about Nicki, SS, or any other member on this thread ?

You did not call out Nicki or SS, you called out Mookie--but you suggested he gets favorable treatment because he has met me and spent time with me, just as they have. I don't show favorable treatment to Mookie, even though I have met him, and I like him and think he's a pretty sharp guy.




My posts were mainly with one member.

If Mookies is under your personal protection and can do and say as he pleases, Just say so. Then we all know where we stand.


Did your cat type that? :dead:





When he comes to a thread and posts a rude comment because the topic doesn't agree with his world.

He should expect the negative feedback and take it like a man ...


What exactly does that have to do with me? Why did you have to drag me into it?

[Tchocky]

Don't wait for the translation! I do not have to answer your questions, I am not in an American courtroom. You will get your answers soon enough!

[Oberon]

I do not have to answer your questions, I am not in an American courtroom. You will get your answers soon enough!

You are in the courtroom of Subsim opinion!

[Tchocky]

(Aside) He mustn't have gotten his instructions from Seawolf Park yet

(Dammit Oberon this is too much fun)

[Stealth Hunter]

http://i28.tinypic.com/ofuf7m.jpg

[mookiemookie]

When he comes to a thread and posts a rude comment because the topic doesn't agree with his world. Bull. I made a post pointing out the fact that CB posts an inordinate amount of political tit-for-tat devoid of real substance. It had nothing to do with if I agreed with it or not.

Besides, the accusation is pretty rich coming from someone who regularly posts snippy little personal attacks.

There are many folks who I disagree with, but still respect their opinions. Aramike, August, Sea Deamon....they make an argument and don't resort to name calling. That's mature. And then there are folks who don't. Let's take a look at the past couple of days, shall we?

Oh How I could respond. :yep: but I was asked to show pity on you and your condition. :-?

And since you state your getting professional help I'll move on. :03:

You should be in the Blimp business :yep:

Your definately full of hotair. :har:

What do you know ? :hmmm: You had an Original thought for a change. :haha:

Who was bitchy ? Your post maybe ? :hmmm:

For all you know, I'm Black.

Why don't you guys wish for something you might actually get someday.





Like a hard-on. :har: :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl: :O:

Your flatout CERTIFIABLE. :o :yep:

Your like a looping tape. :roll:

Do you ever have an original thought of your own ? :nope:

[Oberon]

(Aside) "...Somebody in their moderator team has blown it big time."

(I love that film :up: :rock:)

[CastleBravo]

This has devolved but if you look back Mookie stated that I made 77* posts of a snippy political nature. That is blatantly false, which I told him. It was an attack on my veracity. I recieved niether a direct apology from Mookie nor a defense by the board owner, like he made for perceived attacks on Mookie.

The 'special' relationship btwn Neal and mookie is getting hard to deny.

[FIREWALL]

You did not call out Nicki or SS, you called out Mookie--but you suggested he gets favorable treatment because he has met me and spent time with me, just as they have. I don't show favorable treatment to Mookie, even though I have met him, and I like him and think he's a pretty sharp guy.



Did your cat type that? :dead:






What exactly does that have to do with me? Why did you have to drag me into it?

:timeout: That was not I. You need to go back and read my posts. I never brought you into the discussion until my response to your post to me.

As for post # 62 I don't have to follow a member around and take his posts out of context . I don't sink that low.

[antikristuseke]

Because I have nothing better to do, I shall bring you my commentary on this ridiculous thread.

It all began quietly, when CastleBravo starts yet another political thread. Herr mookiemookie comes in with the following post
776 posts of nothing but harping on petty politics. That's an achievement.
While this is not completely accurate and could be considered baiting, it allso has to be said that quite a lot of herr CastleBravos posts are of a political nature.
After this, herr FIREWALL enters the fray.
Who gave you the Position to decide what can be posted and what can't. :roll: With a post that is completely nonsensical, because herr mookiemookie only commented, inaccurately, on what herr CastleBravo had previously posted, not on wether it should be allowed or not.
After that first exchange things degenerate into light hearted willy waving between herr FIREWALL and herr mookiemookie

Things continue with some projection by herr CastleBravo
I for one am getting a bit upset with the arrogance Mookie displays because he thinks he has some special relationship with Neal Stevens.

No one asks to be insulted for asking a question Mookie answers by trolling the thread, with derogatory comments. Mookie seems to think anyone who doesn't agree with his POV and posts a reality beyond his beliefs is some kind of joker who must be put in his place. Now that is ridiculous.
I say projection because I have never noticed herr mookiemookie claim any special relationship, nor have I noticed him being treated as a special case by the administration. My natural urge here is to tell herr CastleBraco to cry mich ein river and to grow thicker skin when it comes to opposing viewpoints. Allso there is a hint of pot kettle black here.

Then there is more light hearted dick waving.

In short, all parties involved have pulled a dick move here or there in this thread. My completely worthless take on this cluster****.

[Rilder]

http://i28.tinypic.com/ofuf7m.jpg


AWESOME. :arrgh!:

[CastleBravo]

Another member who only see's the political threads. Doesn't see the other threads I have started, which include technical posts, humor, models, praise for moddrs, etc.

I guess that proves my point, political threads keep them comming back.

Subman1 deserves an award!!

[Wolfehunter]

:o Yes padawan.. I too sense a strong presence of the dark side in here.. Keep focused. Do not give in to your emotions... :03:

[mookiemookie]

In short, all parties involved have pulled a dick move here or there in this thread. My completely worthless take on this cluster****.

Probably right. I'm done here.

[Onkel Neal]

:timeout: That was not I. You need to go back and read my posts. I never brought you into the discussion until my response to your post to me.



My apologies, I see that was CB who brought that up in post #13.

[AVGWarhawk]

As the stomach churns so do the days of our lives. :D




Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/viewpost.gif (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=1164636#post1164636)
You're making a mistake, brah. ^^


Dowly:

Sssh, dont interrupt them!



That is your instigator right there. Dowly! He does it all the time. I'm telling mom. :nope: :O:

[CastleBravo]

My apologies, I see that was CB who brought that up in post #13.

Did you also see how Mookie disparaged me on your board? Post #5. Which since you have stood up for him in previous threads led me to bring up your name. In public, not in the back-door clandesent methods usually employed by others.

I continue to wait for an apology.........but won't stop posting.

[Dowly]

That is your instigator right there. Dowly! He does it all the time. I'm telling mom. :nope: :O:

:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmfUcH0mLJA

[Oberon]

*Puts level-headed cap on*

CB has a point, he has posted non-political threads, such as the 'Oops' thread, and the 'Interesting Google Earth co-ordinates', as well as others. In fact, for the sake of it, I shall post a list:


"Help Please" - Help with edit function
"Germans Angry with US Role in Opel Negociations" - Criticism of GM, government interference in business
"What do you all think of this?" - Obama muslim connections
"Obama reiterated that Iran may have some right to nuclear energy" - Criticism of Obamas policy on Iran
"How not to avoid jury duty" - Amusing note from jury duty signee
"President Obama's French food tested by 'taster'" - Criticism of self-perceived royalty by Obama
"Now That's Talent!!" - 7 yr old autistic girl singing US national anthem
"IRS Weighs Rules for Taxing Private Use of Work Cellphones" - as written
"Doctors’ Group Opposes Public Insurance Plan" - criticism of NHC
"Minuteman 3 Silo" - Photographs from an aforementioned silo
"Guess the man/woman who said it" - Ronald Reagan quote
"If you are interested and live in CA" - Minuteman III launch date/times
"Unknown Lifeform in North Carolina Sewer!" - As stated
"Michael Jackson “black box” found" - Humour following death of MJ
"The Box O' Truth #29 Kevlar helmets" - Link and quotes regarding Kevlar helmets
"Can you read body language?" - Failed thread, image did not work
"Your welcome" - Relation between US demand for firearms and employment
"Swine Flu (H1N1) Alert.........not" - as stated
"Big banks to stop cashing California IOUs" - Criticism of failure of Cal and possible Federalisation of failed system
"Shades of Bill Clinton??" - Picture failed, possible Obama humour
"Hey dudes!! Smile!!!" - NASA photos of landing sites
"Top Twelve Indicators The Economy Is Bad (Humor, kind of)" - as said
"This is going to go bad" - Obamas daughter and press relations
"House passes 'global warming' legislation..." as said, dig at Germans
"Russia's new nuclear sub completes first round of sea trials" - as said
"Some interesting Google Earth Coordinates" - as said
"How many polyesters died for this dress, OR There be giants here." Photo failed - humour
"Does this make sense to you?" - Criticism of Obama gov view on spending - Thread locked due to political thread spamming
"Те шальные русские" - Soviet Cold War paranoia humour
"Any opinions?" - 688i pic
"Now he's after your home." - US gov plan on allowing homeowners to rent
"The August recess won't be pretty" - Criticism of Obama
"Al Qaeda tells Obama conditional truce offer stands" - as said
"Russian Subs Patrolling Off East Coast of U.S." - as said
"USS George Washington and her Air Wing" - pics of CVN-73
"The States of America" - comparisons of Dem/Rep states
"Have we heard about this type of thing before?" - accusation of blog from White House asking for assistance tracking down fishy HC stories
"Obama wishes he was as popular as Bush" - Comparison of BO/GwB pop votes in first months
"What Are The 10 Greatest Evils of Our Time?" - Posting of Political essay
"Why are people so angry at the health care town halls?" - stat posting showing people think HCB is a form of socialism
"1/72 scale Type two Detail Kit" - Link to mentioned
"Minuteman 3 model" - Model request
"History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme!!" Reichstag fire comparison with Obama
"US Navy: Pirates fire on US helicopter" - News link
"Thursday Ha Ha" - youtube link to dutch comedy
"'Turbo Tax/Geithner' defense fails in court" - News story, anti-Geithner
"George Will calls for pull-out...." - criticism of current US policy in Afghanistan
"OMAHA, Neb..Submarine?" - Link to submarine project in Neb.
"Obama punishes small country opposed to dictatorial ex-president" - criticism of Obama foreign policy
"Oops!" - Nuclear missile component transport accident
" Could we get away with this on SubSim® (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=155713)" - Criticism of internal members of Democratic Party
"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=155725)" - Overpreparation of Swine Flu

Sheesh, that took longer than I thought it would, I don't know why the last two are underlined, anyway...

As you can see, CBs thread creations are not overwhelmingly political.

However, in turn I would now like to see evidence of this so-called 'special relationship' between Mookiemookie and Neal Stevens.
I have been a member of Subsim for, eight years now, thereabouts, and I have never known Neal to be anything but impartial and very tolerant. In fact, there have been times when many have thought him too tolerant.
This said, this constant posting of political threads, not just by CB, there are many others, really needs to be curbed, I know it creates activity, but it also creates tensions and fractions between those who are unable to seperate arguments from personal feelings, of which there are many, myself included sometimes. The overwhelming number of posts in the aforementioned threads indicates their popularity, and indeed CB posts frequently in them, as do other members who have been mentioned, from both sides of the political spectrum. Whether or not this constitutes spamming I am unsure, however sometimes it certainly does feel like it to an outsider.
Creating a seperate politics forum would be a moderating nightmare, and bound to dissolve into flaming and petty name calling unless strictly moderated, and therefore because of the moderation, interest in the forum would dry up quickly. It's not the first time on Subsim we've had a glut of threads, heh, it doesn't seem all that long ago that there was a large amount of pro/neutral/anti-Islam postings and arguments which resulted in about two or three members leaving and a lot of bad feelings.

People get very emotional about politics, particularly in such an emotive and passionate country such as the US (no offense intended) and it's only natural that people will feel that they are being attacked by 'the other side' be that side Democratic or Republican, but, let me put to you this.

How many threads are there, on the front page about Gordon Brown? Or Angela Merkel? Or Vladimir Putin? We have British, Germany and Russian members here, and British politics are rather flammable at times (particularly at the moment over the whole Lockerbie bomber situation), so why are there not a group of British members venting their feelings over the complete ineptitude of the 'One-eyed Scottish idiot'?
I do not have the answer to that, and I don't expect you to either, but it is something to consider the next time you see something on Fox News or in your inbox which criticises the Democratics or the Republicans and you copy and paste across to a new thread in the General Topics forum.

In the meantime, let's just all take one step back, dust ourselves down, watch something funny on youtube and then evaluate, in the grand scheme of things of life, death, births, marriages and other occurances, just how important is Obamas place of birth? Enough to get your blood pressure up and put your health at risk over?

Your decision

*Takes level-headed cap off and puts it back in its box.*

[Dowly]

Oberon, that post was so disgustingly true that i think I jsut go barf and head to bed. :hmmm:

[CastleBravo]

So many emotions Oberon. First, I'd like to thank you. Not only for your efforts, but your exoneration of my contribution for those who think politics are my only topic to the board. I only wish Neal could recognize it. And recognize others who with good intention attempt to pass on well documented information.

I would also like to thank you for pointing out the posting of leftists whose views are often given a pass as being non-provocative.

I hope SS will progress with your efforts!

For those who don't agree with me..........am I not allowed an opinion?

[Tribesman]

How many threads are there, on the front page about Gordon Brown? Or Angela Merkel? Or Vladimir Putin? We have British, Germany and Russian members here, and British politics are rather flammable at times (particularly at the moment over the whole Lockerbie bomber situation), so why are there not a group of British members venting their feelings over the complete ineptitude of the 'One-eyed Scottish idiot'?
Perhaps its more of a situation where they treat all politicians with equal contempt rather than the two party approach where some people identify with one side and treat anything by the other with contempt.

[Task Force]

I love this ignore list... I cant read anything he posts...:rotfl:

[CastleBravo]

Perhaps its more of a situation where they treat all politicians with equal contempt rather than the two party approach where some people identify with one side and treat anything by the other with contempt.

Right on!!!!!!!!!

[Takeda Shingen]

So many emotions Oberon. First, I'd like to thank you. Not only for your efforts, but your exoneration of my contribution for those who think politics are my only topic to the board. I only wish Neal could recognize it. And recognize others who with good intention attempt to pass on well documented information.

I would also like to thank you for pointing out the posting of leftists whose views are often given a pass as being non-provocative.

I hope SS will progress with your efforts!

For those who don't agree with me..........am I not allowed an opinion?

In the spirit of detente, I'll add the following:

You know, I'm not sure if you remember, but you and I had good discussion in PM about two years ago. I explained to you then that it is not your opinions that get you in trouble. It's your behavior. You come across as very condescening when dealing with anyone you don't agree with. Given the past, you seem to have a real problem with Neal. Take the registered trademark you use for SubSim. That's meant as a barb; we both know it. It's the little things like that which set people off. If you could step away from them, perhaps you could progress a little too. I mean that sincerely.

It is much like my experience when I first became a moderator. I used to throw in these little barbs when moderating the threads. I learned very quickly that you just can't do that, as you'll have more fights than you have ever wanted. It was foolish of me, and so I rapidly came to the understanding that you have to treat people with respect if you want to get anywhere.

I can't speak for the others, but on my end, your opinions are of no personal consequence. They are not my issue.

[Aramike]

Every good board needs an all-out war once in awhile. This thread should be stickied. :03:

[XabbaRus]

Well I see how this thread has become poo in about 12 hours....

I don't want to have to close another thread...

[OneToughHerring]

Mind if I join in on the fun? :yeah:

So many emotions Oberon. First, I'd like to thank you. Not only for your efforts, but your exoneration of my contribution for those who think politics are my only topic to the board.


Psst! I don't think he meant that. I mean, 90% of your topics are just Obama bashing etc., even lots of stuff thats pretty openly racist. So...*makes the "you figure it out"-hand gesture*

[Skybird]

Guys,

some matches at the playing tables are intended provocations from the very beginning. In such cases the best move is to simply fold, leaving the player putting the big blind all to himself, and not even sitting down.

[Tribesman]

even lots of stuff thats pretty openly racist.
Since a common worldwide definition of the word racism applies to people who have prejudices based on nationality then I think someone like yourself who has a silly bigotry thing about americans really should remain silent on making accusations of racism towards others.

I wonder if this comment will elicit one of the usual racist comments about the Irish from herring just to reinforce the point ?

[Skybird]

Racism refers to ethnicity and races, not to nationalities, politics or politic/economic/religious ideologies that do not base on arguments hostile to certain ethnicities and/or races for the sake of making unvalid claims about them.






Merriam-Webster:

Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
Function: noun
Date: 1933
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
— rac·ist \-sist also -shist\ noun or adjective


Farlex Free dictionary:

rac·ism (rhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/amacr.gifhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/prime.gifshttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/ibreve.gifzhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/lprime.gifhttp://img.tfd.com/hm/GIF/schwa.gifm)
n. 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.


Prejudices against other nationalities and unfounded claims of claimed superiority of one's own nation is called nationalism.

Loving one's own national context is called patriotism.

[OneToughHerring]

Since a common worldwide definition of the word racism applies to people who have prejudices based on nationality then I think someone like yourself who has a silly bigotry thing about americans really should remain silent on making accusations of racism towards others.

I wonder if this comment will elicit one of the usual racist comments about the Irish from herring just to reinforce the point ?

No it's the Irish who are racist towards people like the Polish immigrant workers. I thought I made this clear the first time around.

[Tribesman]

Wow I thought you said you would no longer respond to anything I wrote skybird?
Racism refers to ethnicity and races, not to nationalities
Unlucky Skybird, you got it wrong .
A legal definition about racism
this means any group of people who are defined by reference to their race, colour, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origin.
The definition from the UN convention
shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin
oh looky.... nationality, national origin and errrrrr.....national origin:up:

Perhaps you should have kept to your word and not responded eh:yep:

No it's the Irish who are racist towards people like the Polish immigrant workers.
Well done Herring, I knew I could rely on you to come back with a bigoted sterotype post.
Thank you, but you do make it too easy

[Tchocky]

Jesus, guys.


Relax.

[CaptainHaplo]

Tribesman - why now bait Skybird like that. Not cool dude.

Skybird, take the high road and ignore it mate.

Someone should just make a "I'm going to insult whomever because they tend to disagree with me" post. Thats just about what this has turned into.

Accusations of racism, baiting on past statements like some "response" is a major accomplishment, etc.

I agree with some people on issues, others I disagree with. But ya know what, it doesn't really matter who agrees or disagrees with me, or vice versa. So I suggest everyone just kind of grow up and stop the tit for tat, back and forth nonsense.

See a post that you can't add to constructively? Don't respond. See one you can discuss like an ADULT? Hop in and use fact to add to the discussion.

[stabiz]

Internet ftw.

[Skybird]

You're too right, CaptainHaplo, so I bite my lips. Trolling is a plague that is not worth it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIpIAX78gig

[AVGWarhawk]

You're all trouble makers and well on the way to a smacked bottom. Now go to the time out chair for 10 minutes. :nope:


http://www.tinytotties.com/IMAGES/CATEGORY/Time-Out-Chairs.jpg

[XabbaRus]

Bang another pointless thread locked as it has descended even further into chaos....