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SteamWake
09-02-09, 09:51 AM
A "pandemic response bill" currently making its way through the Massachusetts state legislature would allow authorities to forcefully quarantine citizens in the event of a health emergency, compel health providers to vaccinate citizens, authorize forceful entry into private dwellings and destruction of citizen property and impose fines on citizens for noncompliance.


:o What in the hell is goin on here !

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=108604

CastleBravo
09-02-09, 09:56 AM
The sick people are upstairs.:hmmm:

Tribesman
09-02-09, 10:10 AM
What in the hell is goin on here !

All of the stuff that article complains about is already in the existing bill which has been on the books for well over 50 years that these amendments update.
Another WND non-story.

Skybird
09-02-09, 11:03 AM
The only problem lies in whether or not a state of pandemics is correctly identified and defined or not. that individuals being ill and infectious and carrying a dangerous desease shall not be allowed to run around freely and infest more and more parts of the population, should be taken as plain and healthy reason, and according laws are already valid in Germany and I am sure in almost all western nations, too. A mild exmaple are chickenpox: in Germany you are forbidden to use public transportation when bringing your kid to the doctor. That is because the desease it extremely infectious.

But what also should be considered is that in UN health boards deciding on global pandemics policies, like swine flu recently, the balance between independent experts and lobbyists of the pharmaceutical industry has seriously and dangerously been shifted towards the industry lobbyists. And these of course have an interest to lower the treshhold for pandemic defintions - so that the companies paying them their fees can sell off larger quantities of their drugs, and earlier. Right now it already is common legal practice that companies invent - yes: invent - new deseases, syndroms and definitions of deseases in order to artifically create a market for some new drugs they have created. The easier it is to define the greater ammounts of the population as "ill", the higher the profits are these companies can make the earlier.

Business and politics must be kept strictly seperate and independant from each other, else a democratic system necessarily gets hijacked and degenerates into a hidden tyranny by the few. Lobbyism of any kind should be forbidden (and for reasons of deterrance should be put under maximum penalties]. Economic lobbyism is nothing else but legalised corruption and ursurpation of political powers by economic actors who have no democratic political legitimation by the people at all, but explicitly avoid that process and find a workaround for it.

Insiders say that in EU headquarters in Brussel, per one member of EU parliament you have 40-50 organised, professional, payed lobbyists of the private industry. US is famous for extreme economic lobbyism as well. Such a constellation no political structure claiming to be free and democratic can survive. It gets replaced by all-out corruption. To declare that one wants to fight against corruption, becomes a meaningless phrase, then. It is impossible, since it is all aorund you and the whole system breathes in in and out and cannot be anymore without it.

SteamWake
09-02-09, 11:32 AM
All of the stuff that article complains about is already in the existing bill which has been on the books for well over 50 years that these amendments update.
Another WND non-story.

Then why pass another bill?

AVGWarhawk
09-02-09, 11:41 AM
:o Soylent Green

FIREWALL
09-02-09, 11:43 AM
Then why pass another bill?


Because Tribesman and a few others decides what you should post.

If it doesn't coinside with their tinhat theorys it shouldn't be posted.

I think it's called " censoring "

Stealth Hunter
09-02-09, 04:39 PM
Then why pass another bill?

Because we're dealing with new pandemic things that people 50 years ago didn't have to face, like AIDS, avian flu, swine flu, etc.

donut
09-02-09, 04:47 PM
Because Tribesman and a few others decides what you should post.

If it doesn't coincide with their tin hat theory's it shouldn't be posted.

I think it's called " censoring " :timeout::woot:Ignore list.

Stealth Hunter
09-02-09, 05:00 PM
Because Tribesman and a few others decides what you should post.

THE NEW WORLD ORDER DOES THE SAME THING WITH THE MEDIA. THEY ARE ACTING ON THE WILL OF THE ALIENS.:o

If it doesn't coinside with their tinhat theorys it shouldn't be posted.

ALL THE NUCLEAR MISSILES ARE UNDER MY CONTROL NOW. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY LOCKED ME UP IN SOLITARY FOR 12 YEARS? BECAUSE I CAN LAUNCH THE GOVERNMENT'S WARHEADS BY SIMPLY WHISTLING INTO A PHONE.

I think it's called " censoring "

YOU SEE? REPTILIAN DEATH RAY.

FIREWALL
09-02-09, 05:13 PM
THE NEW WORLD ORDER DOES THE SAME THING WITH THE MEDIA. THEY ARE ACTING ON THE WILL OF THE ALIENS.:o



ALL THE NUCLEAR MISSILES ARE UNDER MY CONTROL NOW. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY LOCKED ME UP IN SOLITARY FOR 12 YEARS? BECAUSE I CAN LAUNCH THE GOVERNMENT'S WARHEADS BY SIMPLY WHISTLING INTO A PHONE.



YOU SEE? REPTILIAN DEATH RAY.

:up: :har::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

SteamWake
09-02-09, 05:51 PM
;)THE NEW WORLD ORDER DOES THE SAME THING WITH THE MEDIA. THEY ARE ACTING ON THE WILL OF THE ALIENS.:o



ALL THE NUCLEAR MISSILES ARE UNDER MY CONTROL NOW. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY LOCKED ME UP IN SOLITARY FOR 12 YEARS? BECAUSE I CAN LAUNCH THE GOVERNMENT'S WARHEADS BY SIMPLY WHISTLING INTO A PHONE.



YOU SEE? REPTILIAN DEATH RAY.

That post should ring a few bells on big brother :yep:

Raptor1
09-02-09, 05:55 PM
The Thought Police is under way!

Stealth Hunter
09-02-09, 05:58 PM
You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Takeda Shingen
09-02-09, 06:04 PM
You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.

Those sentences have always chilled me. Still do.

CastleBravo
09-02-09, 06:14 PM
This is the kind of thing which happens when a government masks its intentions in 'the good of the people' through 'Change'. At the same time the people of Mass. are disarmed and can do nothing to stop the blatant infringement on their lives.

Tribesman
09-02-09, 06:44 PM
Then why pass another bill?
Because thats what poiticians do. Bills are constantly updated and amended.
Its a regular process over time , a bill that stipulates a $50 dollar fine will over the years be updated to take account of the real value of the dollar.
Every time an agency or organisation has a change of name all the existing bills have to be updated to remove the old name and include the new name.


Because Tribesman and a few others decides what you should post.

If it doesn't coinside with their tinhat theorys it shouldn't be posted.

I think it's called " censoring "
Yeah right :doh:

Tell you what Firewall why not read the bill as its clearly you that has the tinfoil hat .
Its very handiy linked in the article and contains all the words from the existing bill that are being changed and all the new words that are replacing them.
Everything the WND is making an issue out of about the "new" bill is already in the existing bill and has been for over 50 years.

Because we're dealing with new pandemic things that people 50 years ago didn't have to face, like AIDS, avian flu, swine flu, etc.
Yes like the old bills dealt with things like TB , which as it happens is now having to be dealt with under bills like this differently because of the emergence of drug resistant strains.