So I went and bought 10 copies of SH3..

[Phoenix The Taffer]

From Newegg. I heard this was the non-Starforce version, so hopefully I didnt screw up. Gonna keep 1 and maybe another for a backup. The rest I'm slowly giving away to friends that havent played it.

(Then of course I see SH5 is coming out in 2010, ah well.)

Anyway...

I've never played it, and finally have the chance. I assume the correct course of action is install CD to non-Program Files location (using Vista 64-bit), patch latest patch, install a fantastic mod or 2 and I'm good to go?

Any mod recommendations if you're looking for the best visual/content-full experience/max realism?

edit: I'm leaning towards GWX...I'm hoping I dont have to navigate rough waters worrying about mod compatibility...

[FIREWALL]

An idea. Why don't you donate a few to SubSim for contest prizes ? :yeah: :salute:

[KaleunBier]

Firewall has a good point! As far as mods go you definitely HAVE to go with SH3+GWX+SH3Commander+JGSME!!!!

[Phoenix The Taffer]

Looks like this isnt going to be that easy -- the install process I mean.

Disc is 1.4...not 1.4b...and the patch page is confusing. I'd like to install the higher resolution fix...is that right after the patch and before Commander and GWX? Do I really need the Commander? I assume it isnt bundled with GWX...yet the jgsme one is....

edit: oh and my installer for the disc is asking if I want to install window media 9 codecs :p Says it was required, but I'm gonna take the chance and say it isnt :p

2nd edit: hmm, some patcher program called gameshadow that was part of the process appears to be broken/useless...guess I'll be deleting that.

[Phoenix The Taffer]

Thanks for the welcome :)

I think what I've done so far is:

1. Installed DVD, ignored codecs and Direct X. DVD appeared to be 1.4, not 1.4b....the patch I found on the net failed so I assume this DVD is the latest version.

2. Installed the resolution fix.

3. Downloaded and installed Commander 3.2, then the GWX fix for it.

4. Downloaded and installed GWX 3.0

[FIREWALL]

PS Sorry. :oops: Welcome Aboard. :salute:

I'm just tired. Been playing GWX all day and most of this evening. :yawn:

Looks like your getting things sorted out. :up:

[JMV]

Hello Kaleun :

1 ) Install the Vanilla game with CD

2 ) Install the 1.4 Patch ( from SH3 download section )
silent_hunter_3_dvd_1.4b_emea.exe

THIS IS THE BASIC INSTALL REQUIRED TO INSTALL WHATEVER SUPERMOD COMES AFTER. If GWX,

At the Grey Wolves or at Subsim D/L

3 ) Load

For GWX :

GWX3-1.bin
GWX3-2.bin
GWX3-3.bin
GWX3-4.bin
GWX3-5.bin
GWX3-6.bin
GWX3-7.bin
The Grey Wolves Expansion 3.0 Setup
GWX3_Commander_Files.exe

If you want SH3 Commander :
SH3 Commander Setup
GWX3 files for SH3 Commander 3.2 Setup
SH3 Commander files for GWX 3.0 Setup

If you want JSGME :
JoneSoft Generic Mod Enabler Setup

4 ) Run
The Grey Wolves Expansion 3.0 Setup
GWX3_Commander_Files.exe

SH3 Commander and JSGME are optionnal but highly recommended.

Gute Jagd Kaleun :arrgh!:

P.S. : If you fire your torpedoes like you get your Copies of SH3, you should get pretty profficient... :haha:

[YukonJack_AK]

Just speaking from experience... Install SH3 and patch, THEN install GWX. I found that GWX overwirtes so many of the original files that installing any MOD prior to GWX is a waste of time. After that... install SH3Commander and then your resolution fix... and anything else that suits you. Highly recommend using JSGME for you MOD loading/unloading so as you don't mess anything up.

btw - I might suggest PT Thompsens Sound MOD... and get a few skins too while you're at it! Good luck and welcome!

[YukonJack_AK]

sorry for the double post...
damn slow internet...

[Phoenix The Taffer]

I think I'm gonna have to do a clean uninstall/reinstall and ignore Commander and also ignore JSGME....it doesnt explain clearly what each of the 18 gmx mods it offers actually do...and you cant enable them all because some of them clearly clash with each other (at least according to the error messages).


I cant use that 1.4b patch. Here's the message I get for silent_hunter_3_download_1.4b_emea from

http://patches.ubi.com/silent_hunter_3/

This program cannot update the installed version of Silent Hunter III EMEA download v1.0 to 1.3 because of the following reason: (basically one of the stuka cfg files was an unknown version)

Now you might say it's because I installed GWX...but I was getting this error right after I installed the Encore DVD that I bought from Newegg

edit: oops, guess I might have done the wrong one, but I still get the error with the DVD patch as well. I'm gonna have to do a clean uninstall/reinstall here and report back.

final edit on this post: I seriously doubt I can use those patches because it says "1.0 to 1.3". My disc comes with 1.4. It just doesnt come with 1.4B! Kinda frustrating. Does 1.4 on this disc equal 1.4B??

Anyway, will try again with the clean install.

[Phoenix The Taffer]

Ok, I just did a sweep of the vista registry...hopefully nothing vital :p Haha.

After this defrag finishes, I'm gonna do DVD, attempt patch, then if it fails, try GWX 3.0 and that's it. Maybe the resolution fix afterwards.

[Phoenix The Taffer]

DVD installed. DX, codecs, Gameshadow ignored. GS on the disc is outdated anyway I read. Found an interesting thread. Apparently if you have 1.4.0.1, you already have 1.4b...why dont they just put 1.4b in the title screen of SH3 though? My file properties are: 1.26 MB (1,331,200 bytes) and 1.4.0.1

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2881085392/m/7261080164

Looking ok so far.

[Hanomag]

Welcome aboard Herr Kaluen!! :arrgh!:

Wish I could help but I am Vista impaired... :doh:

[Jimbuna]

Your earlier problems were as a result of trying to install over a copy of SH3 that already contained additional files.

Rule no 1 for GWX3.0..........Install only on a fresh install of SH3 patched to 1.4b.

There are installation instructions contained within the GWX website (click on my sig).

Welcome aboard http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/welcome.gif

[Phoenix The Taffer]

My current install is 1) DVD without all the garbage, and then 2) GWX 3.0 installed immediately afterwards -- and I have not tried running the JSGME program that GWX installed. I also have not tried running the resolution fix yet either, despite having to view jaggies on this 28 inch monitor. I have not installed or used Commander.

I cannot patch the game. It fails even on a clean disc install. It's already at 1.4b I believe from the disc.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2881085392/m/7261080164

My exe file version matches the picture in the above thread -- 1.4.0.1 -- however my file size is larger...it's a 1300k exe, not 968k

Does the game put a SH3 folder in Documents? Because I installed the disc to a folder called SHTHREE...but there's also a SH3 folder there.

GWX seems to run fine. I just wish I had some way of verifying that it's actually running the way it should be.

[Phoenix The Taffer]

I'm wondering if I shoulda tried this patch:

silent_hunter_3_dvd_1.4b_us.exe (http://patches.ubi.com/silent_hunter_3/silent_hunter_3_dvd_1.4b_us.exe)

It's on the same page:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2881085392/m/7261080164

Seems that's the proper one for US boxed DVDs.

<sigh>

edit: edited for typo. I was having fun playin the tutorial stuff. But I think I will try one more time to do a clean install and see if the US DVD patch works. Will report back.

[mookiemookie]

I'm wondering if I shioulda tried this patch:

silent_hunter_3_dvd_1.4b_us.exe (http://patches.ubi.com/silent_hunter_3/silent_hunter_3_dvd_1.4b_us.exe)

It's on the same page:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2881085392/m/7261080164

Seems that's the proper one for US boxed DVDs.

<sigh>

I really dont want to uninstall and reinstall again.

One bit of advice - if you decide to download that file and apply the patch, the install screen will say it's the 1.3 patch. Ignore that. It's not.

[Phoenix The Taffer]

One bit of advice - if you decide to download that file and apply the patch, the install screen will say it's the 1.3 patch. Ignore that. It's not.

Yeah I'm gonna try it. I just did an clean uninstall -- deleted the directories and registry entries as far as I dared.

I'll let you know how it goes. Gonna see if it'll fail like the last times. The last times I didnt get a chance to "ignore it". If you check out that link:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2881085392/m/7261080164

it seems to imply that my DVD might be already 1.4b. But we'll see. Rebooting.

[Phoenix The Taffer]

Again, I got the same error apart from the file wording when attempting to apply the patch, which is first on the list:

http://www.ubi.com/US/Games/Info.aspx?pId=1106&tab=download&dcId=63

The MD5 checksum of the patch is: AF51E99C515173118BD7731FF2A18CB8

Note: this is on a CLEAN DVD INSTALL. I picked a new install location this time as well: C:\SilentHunterIII

Pic of SH3 exe file version:
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8739/1401w.jpg


Pic of error:
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5535/errorahf.jpg

[Phoenix The Taffer]

AFAIK, I have 1.4b and I'm not gonna sweat over this issue anymore based on some other posts I've read in the last few hours.

Basically the Encore DVD SH2/SH3 combo version of the game from Newegg doesnt require a patch, and I'm gonna install GWX now and start trying to beat the tutorials :)

Thanks for all the input, everyone. :)

An idea. Why don't you donate a few to SubSim for contest prizes ? :yeah: :salute:



I'll think about it :)

[FIREWALL]

AFAIK, I have 1.4b and I'm not gonna sweat over this issue anymore based on some other posts I've read in the last few hours.

Basically the Encore DVD SH2/SH3 combo version of the game from Newegg doesnt require a patch, and I'm gonna install GWX now and start trying to beat the tutorials :)

Thanks for all the input, everyone. :)



I'll think about it :)




Just not the one you had all the trouble with. :03: :har::rotfl:

[Phoenix The Taffer]

Bah :) If they had just put 1.4b on the title screen, it would never have become an issue :)

Sounds like we need a 1.5 universal patch :)

[JHuschke]

Send me just one copy! :88)

[JMV]

Ok then, if you already have a patched version then do as I had said to you in #8 ( Forget about # number 2 ). Just start loading GWX with GWX3_Commander_Files.exe.

I recommend strongly while you're in the process, that you carry on your install with SH3 Commander :
SH3 Commander Setup
GWX3 files for SH3 Commander 3.2 Setup
SH3 Commander files for GWX 3.0 Setup

and JSGME :
JoneSoft Generic Mod Enabler Setup

They are a must to my opinion, and it takes secons.

Good luck with your install. :salute:

[JMV]

And.... Read all the Manuels ( Important ! ) :03:

[Sailor Steve]

You're getting a lot of bad advice here.

Your first instinct was correct: your version is already patched. Do NOT install patch 1.4b.

A quick explanation, as I was part of the 1.4 patch test team: After 1.3 they decided it needed a fourth patch. We tested 1.4, they changed it a little and dubbed it 1.4b. Unfortunately if you load it it only says 1.3 on the changefiles. But it says 1.4 on the loading screen when you boot the game up.

Newer versions come already patched, and yes it is the very latest greatest 1.4b patch, as 1.4 was never released to the public. So you're good to go.

SH3 Commander is an external tool which works around the game to give you some of the greatest options you can imagine. It is compatible with any mod or supermod, so it is highly recommended. GWX3 will greatly add to your game experience; SH3 Commander will greatly add to your career experience.

Good luck and good hunting.

[Phoenix The Taffer]

Thanks for the confirmation! :) I may give Commander another go.

Well, as soon as I figure out the proper install order...guess I should look at the Grey Wolves website again since I intend to keep using GWX...

[Jimbuna]

Install Commander before or after GWX, tis up to you, but don't forget the CFG file and use Commander to start/load your first patrol.

[Phoenix The Taffer]

Install Commander before or after GWX, tis up to you, but don't forget the CFG file and use Commander to start/load your first patrol.

Do you guys and gals use Commander each time you start the game? And why for *first patrol*? Is this related to that weird career profile bug I read about somewhere?

edit: edited cause I saw the answer to one of my questions on the GMX site.

[Bent Periscope]

Welcome aboard.:salute:

[mookiemookie]

Do you guys and gals use Commander each time you start the game? And why for *first patrol*? Is this related to that weird career profile bug I read about somewhere?

edit: edited cause I saw the answer to one of my questions on the GMX site.

Yes, I use the SH3 Commander shortcut to load the game every time, first patrol or not. Every time.

The config files found here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147567

...help SH3 Commander work correctly with GWX3.0.

[Phoenix The Taffer]

Welcome aboard.:salute:

Thank you :)

Yes, I use the SH3 Commander shortcut to load the game every time, first patrol or not. Every time.

The config files found here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147567

...help SH3 Commander work correctly with GWX3.0.

Good to know :)

(From the GWX Support Page): You can run optional tools like SH3 Commander, JSGME, SH3Gen, etc. provided you run them as an 'Administrator' after you have installed them.I think I forgot to do this the last few times I tried GWX. I assume I need to also check the admin box in SH3.EXE as well? Or will Commander automatically spawn SH3.EXE with admin privileges? I assume it probably doesnt matter, but it's best to know before doing this clean install again. I think at least some of the "game weirdness" I was experiencing before may have been a part of that. Most of the time I hate it when programs like disk defraggers auto-spawn web browsers with admin priv due to security, but in this situation it wouldnt bother me. (I run my stuff in a Vista User Account)

[Chad]

Welcome to SubSim and sorry you had such a hard time even getting the game installed! Hope you enjoy it, and any questions other than installing, we'll be quick to answer :O: