Ridiculous amount of renown in GWX

[Von Talon]

Today I made an insane attack to Giblatar's harbor. I sank Nelson battleship, 3 cruisers, 3 tankers and 2 destroyers. That's over 100000 tons. I managed to escape and returned to base. When I was checking my mission report, I noticet that I only earned about 2500 renown. That's weird. I think that sinking a battleship and alot of other big ships I would be better rewarded.

IXC class Uboot (or was it IXB?) costs 7500 renown. That means that I should sink 3 battleships, 9 cruisers and 9 tankers and 6 destroyers. OR 300000 tons of allied shipping. Thats alot. Every IXC Kaleun had sunked over 300000 tons of ships, right? :yep: XXI kaleuns have sunken allied ships for over 3000000 tons :yep:.

Is this made on purpose?

[Rafael]

I agree with your topic. :yep:

This is much better done in NYGM. You don't have renown in NYGM but tonnage. :arrgh!:

[bojan811]

I agree with your topic. :yep:

This is much better done in NYGM. You don't have renown in NYGM but tonnage. :arrgh!:

but as target quality or tipe?

[Rafael]

but as target quality or tipe?

That I don't know, but I suppose it's all about how many tonnage you have sunk during your patrol.

It's a tonnage war, not a renown war.

[Pohl]

I sank 3 BB in the same convoy
http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt348/arleccin/dea32bbf.jpg
but when I arrived to port they only gave me something near 2700~2900 renown (I was expecting a lot more), atm I have 45XX renown =/

[Kapitan Soniboy]

I entered Scapa Flow in early 1940 and sank HMS Hood. Later on the same patrol I sank HMS Nelson and several other ships. Best patrol ever. Was expecting alot more renown for that!

I agree with you here mate.

[JMV]

I think I've read somewhere that if, for example, you sink the Hood or whatever big one several times as they respawn, you only get tonnage and renown once. If I understood well.

[Kapitan Soniboy]

First and only time I've sunk the Hood

[Ford Prefect]

The uboat war was against the merchants, not the battleships, you get more reknown for sinking a big merchant ship or troop carrier than you do for a battleship as it is seen as more important overall.

[Red Heat]

The uboat war was against the merchants, not the battleships, you get more reknown for sinking a big merchant ship or troop carrier than you do for a battleship as it is seen as more important overall.

Very good point of view... :yep:

[TarJak]

If you want to know a bit more about the GWX renown system then read this post: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1028889&postcount=11

It does not take into account new ships that you may add by different mods so it will never be a complete list but it gives you an idea about how it works.

Another thing to remember is that these numbers are the total renown if played at 100% realism. Any reduction of the realism settings will reduce the renown received for sinking each ship.

I hope this explains your "lack" of renown.

[Spike88]

Is that per ship class or per ship tonnage?

Exampe, will an empire-type freighter always be wort the same amount of renown, no matter if its 1 ton or 1,000 tons?

[TarJak]

It is handled by the ship ID. If you reset the tonnage for an Empire Freighter to 1 ton and leave the renown setting alone the renown will be the same regardless of the tonnage.

[ryanglavin]

whoa... now i know the inner workings of GWX... hmm... NOW time TO TAKE OVER!?!?!?!!!!11111 MUCHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA :yeah:

[Von Talon]

The uboat war was against the merchants, not the battleships, you get more reknown for sinking a big merchant ship or troop carrier than you do for a battleship as it is seen as more important overall.

Ok, I followed your adwise. I madea another insane attack to Southend (Near London). I sank 2 Large Troopships (Passenger Liners) 1 Modern Tanker, 1 Liberty Cargo. Thats about 65000 tons.

And again. Only 1000 renown (note that I sank few destroyers)

[TarJak]

Ok, I followed your adwise. I madea another insane attack to Southend (Near London). I sank 2 Large Troopships (Passenger Liners) 1 Modern Tanker, 1 Liberty Cargo. Thats about 65000 tons.

And again. Only 1000 renown (note that I sank few destroyers)Did you bother to read post #13? Given the sinkings I suspect that it is the realism level you are playing at that is causing your "problem".

[Ford Prefect]

Ok, I followed your adwise. I madea another insane attack to Southend (Near London). I sank 2 Large Troopships (Passenger Liners) 1 Modern Tanker, 1 Liberty Cargo. Thats about 65000 tons.

And again. Only 1000 renown (note that I sank few destroyers)

Judging by your high number of sinkings, especially of rather prestige targets, I suspect you're playing on low realism which will as previously mentioned yield low renown. Crank up the realism abit and you'll see it mount up faster, not that it matters a huge amount any way tbh.

[Von Talon]

Judging by your high number of sinkings, especially of rather prestige targets, I suspect you're playing on low realism which will as previously mentioned yield low renown. Crank up the realism abit and you'll see it mount up faster, not that it matters a huge amount any way tbh.

Yes, I was playing with low realism and acoustic torpedoes :oops:

So more realism means more renown?

[Melonfish]

i only use renown for rank, otherwise it doesn't play much part of my game, i've created my own little "Wallmart subs" file which just alters the cost of all items in the game. that way i don't have to worry about things costing the earth and getting demoted...

[bojan811]

Yes, I was playing with low realism and acoustic torpedoes :oops:

So more realism means more renown?

base ship renown value * ( (0.75 * realism %) + 0.25 bonus ).

[Von Talon]

OK, I put 74% Realism and went to Southend again. Now I sank 2 Coastal Merchants, 2 Large Troop Ships and some other small ships.

I earned about 1500 renown.

[Jimbuna]

OK, I put 74% Realism and went to Southend again. Now I sank 2 Coastal Merchants, 2 Large Troop Ships and some other small ships.

I earned about 1500 renown.

Your now approaching the real deal level.

You could always cheat and simply alter the amount of DeltaRenown.

[Rafael]

Your now approaching the real deal level.

You could always cheat and simply alter the amount of DeltaRenown.

Hi Jim,

You explained me the DeltaRenown issue in another topic.

However, it did not work at all?

I changed it to DeltaRenown=50000.000000 (in base before patrol) and nothing happened when loading the game.

:hmmm:

[Jimbuna]

As long as it's not your first patrol and SH3 Commander has been rolled back there is no reason for it not to work.....it's a CFG file in your saved game folder, a fundamental file you can't continue your career without :hmmm:

[Rafael]

As long as it's not your first patrol and SH3 Commander has been rolled back there is no reason for it not to work.....it's a CFG file in your saved game folder, a fundamental file you can't continue your career without :hmmm:

File = Patrols_0.cfg

mmmm... I have at SH3 Commander always at SH3 Options >> General Settings >> "Rollback automatically after exiting SH3" CHECKED. BTW, It's not my first patrol.

Is that the problem because of "Rollback automatically after exiting SH3"?

:salute:

[TigerShark808]

The uboat war was against the merchants, not the battleships, you get more reknown for sinking a big merchant ship or troop carrier than you do for a battleship as it is seen as more important overall.


I would think sinking a HOOD or any battleship would be worth more then sinking a merchant ship.

I guess in RL sinking A BB would be a big reward..but in this sim sinking a battleship is a waste of time since Germany lost or would lose the war anyways. AND GERMANY LOST THE NORTH ATLANTIC TO THE BRITISH LONG BEFORE THE WAR WAS OVER so knocking out a BB in this game is a waste of time apperently.

IMO..sinking a BB with escorts should give you more reknown then any merchant ship.

But then I don't hunt for Merchants I hunt for capital ships.

[TarJak]

I would think sinking a HOOD or any battleship would be worth more then sinking a merchant ship.It is. See post #13 in this thread. Most BB's yield up to 1500 renown, the largest merchant in the list linked from that post yields around 400.