View Full Version : The media is racist
SUBMAN1
08-21-09, 07:46 PM
Check this out, the guy carrying that assault rifle at an Obama meeting, we all know about it right? There is a thread on it here somewhere in case you don't. Check out this MSNBC video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYKQJ4-N7LI
The media/MSNBC is going off about a white guy with an Assault Rifle showing up to this Obama meeting.
Now that you watched that, check this out - here is a full profile interview with the guy done by CNN at that rally AND HE IS BLACK!!!!!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfN7woo2xRY
Unbelievable.
-S
AVGWarhawk
08-21-09, 08:04 PM
Assault rifles are equal opportunity offenders. :03:
Max2147
08-21-09, 08:15 PM
Wait, you just found out that he's black? What rock have you been living under?
Wait, you just found out that he's black? What rock have you been living under?
Watch the first video. It was a pretty blatant case of race baiting.
Max2147
08-21-09, 09:17 PM
Watch the first video. It was a pretty blatant case of race baiting.
Looks like MSNBC was living under the same rock that Subman was.
Frame57
08-21-09, 09:49 PM
What is even better, is that the BO biased media and the DNC are targeting phrases such as "socialist" and "Taking our country back" as being racist. Joe Stalin was white the last time i checked....:nope:
Looks like MSNBC was living under the same rock that Subman was.
I don't care about your issues with Subman Max. It looked to me like MSNBC deliberately cropped the video to hide the guys race.
Platapus
08-21-09, 10:11 PM
That is some pretty sleazy media manipulation. To deliberately not show the face of the man and then make a racial issue out of it.
At least I can tell my grand kids that I remembered when journalism was an actual profession. :nope:
By that time, they probably won't believe it.
"Come on Gramps, you mean there was a time when journalists were honourable professionals? Quit pulling our legs!"
That is some pretty sleazy media manipulation. To deliberately not show the face of the man and then make a racial issue out of it.
At least I can tell my grand kids that I remembered when journalism was an actual profession. :nope:
By that time, they probably won't believe it.
"Come on Gramps, you mean there was a time when journalists were honourable professionals? Quit pulling our legs!"
:up: Almighty media, whose truth you sell today. Triumph Ordinary Man.
Max2147
08-21-09, 11:19 PM
I don't care about your issues with Subman Max. It looked to me like MSNBC deliberately cropped the video to hide the guys race.
I was agreeing with you. It was sleazy stuff by MSNBC, but what did you expect?
You can't get a real news broadcast on the 24 hour networks. It's nothing but sensationalist infotainment cr*p.
mookiemookie
08-21-09, 11:24 PM
What is even better, is that the BO biased media and the DNC are targeting phrases such as "socialist" and "Taking our country back" as being racist. Joe Stalin was white the last time i checked....:nope:
They're saying that they've become euphemisms. "Taking our country back" from what? A democratically elected president? Or a black usurper?
GoldenRivet
08-22-09, 12:41 AM
"Taking our country back" from what?
from a congress who does what they want regardless of the plight of the American people
from a government who time and time again shoves the American Citizen aside in favor of the illegal immigrants.
from a government who insists that they must tax us mercilessly so that we can all be "taken care of" as we are incapable of taking care of ourselves
from a government which punishes hard work, and rewards sloth through broken and ineffective welfare programs
from a congress who fails to hold itself to the same standards of pay, health care and retirement as we the general citizenry are held to.
the list goes ever onward.
antikristuseke
08-22-09, 04:26 AM
I don't care about your issues with Subman Max. It looked to me like MSNBC deliberately cropped the video to hide the guys race.
Doesänt really surprise me. As far as I can tell MSNBC is Fox noises left wing counterpart.
OneToughHerring
08-22-09, 06:24 AM
Imagine this happening in a Bush rally. :o
mookiemookie
08-22-09, 08:22 AM
from a congress who does what they want regardless of the plight of the American people
Been happening for years.
from a government who time and time again shoves the American Citizen aside in favor of the illegal immigrants. I don't remember people bringing guns to any protests when NAFTA was signed
from a government who insists that they must tax us mercilessly so that we can all be "taken care of" as we are incapable of taking care of ourselves Where were the Teabaggers when the top marginal tax rate was 50% under Reagan? Or 91% under Eisenhower? But they come out of the woodwork and paint Obama as the second coming of Joe Stalin when he wants to go back from 35% to 38.6% Give me a break.
from a government which punishes hard work, and rewards sloth through broken and ineffective welfare programs Where were the redfaced townhall spittle spewers when the New Deal was passed?
The only difference now is that there's a black man in office, and so we're faced with a political firestorm and ridiculous ideas like birthergate because "he's not one of us". That's the only difference.
And these people cry and say they want their country back. Well if that's their vision of America, it can't go away fast enough.
Max2147
08-22-09, 08:38 AM
The whole point of a democracy is that you can try to "take your country back" without using guns. Little slips of paper that you drop in a box every two/four years work much better.
GoldenRivet
08-22-09, 12:41 PM
mookie.
i dont understand your insistence that growing disillusionment with congress has something to do with there being a black president (oooohhhh oh my god a black guy! oh no!!!1!11) :doh:
fact is you got your beloved first black president and guess what?
HE IS A FU*KING POLITICIAN LIKE ALL THE REST:har:
Congress levies taxes... who gives a sh*t about the president?
the only thing the president does is he basically says "Here is what i wanna do... i want to tax the nation into oblivion - not to bolster our military (which i would support), not to go to space (which i would support), not to develop new technology (which i would support) - no - i want to tax the absolute crap out of everyone so that we can make sure those that dont work for a living can have the same quality of life as those who do."
CONGRESS is the one who sings such rubbish into law.
im sorry but i dont like lazy people, i work for a living
and a large portion of my wages which i personally pay in quarterly should NOT go into any sort of welfare for these bums.
i fail to see what that has to do with your God's level of skin pigment and its ability to reflect visual light.
I have had black bosses, black friends, black girlfriends for christ sake.
for every "birther" our there, there is a "racer" like YOU mookie.
folks like YOU create racism in this country - it is a perception which you cant let go of.... but sooner or later you are going to have to realize that crying the "R" word every other minute is not a sound political strategy.
That is some pretty sleazy media manipulation.
A bit OT but the media manipulation did it:
Bill OReil'ly from Fox lies about Amsterdam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApZyx9skwzI
Unregistered
08-22-09, 01:50 PM
That is some pretty sleazy media manipulation. To deliberately not show the face of the man and then make a racial issue out of it.
At least I can tell my grand kids that I remembered when journalism was an actual profession. :nope:
By that time, they probably won't believe it.
"Come on Gramps, you mean there was a time when journalists were honourable professionals? Quit pulling our legs!"
AGREED!
Unregistered
08-22-09, 01:52 PM
What is even better, is that the BO biased media and the DNC are targeting phrases such as "socialist" and "Taking our country back" as being racist. Joe Stalin was white the last time i checked....:nope:
People have been saying "taking our country back" long before a black man became president!
Unregistered
08-22-09, 01:55 PM
As far as the TITLE of this thread "The media is racist"
The media is not racist in fact the media couldn't care any less about race. Not unless it will make them a buck. They only want to sell "THERE STORY".
Its that simple!
Platapus
08-22-09, 02:51 PM
I would not agree that the media is racist, no more than I would agree that the media is, as a whole, conservative/liberal.
I believe that that the media is sensationalist.
They will publish anything that gets people's emotions stirred up.
Stirred up emotions means revenue to the media.
"Conservative" media tries to get the conservatives spun up
"Liberal" media tries to get the liberals spun up.
If they can't find the news to get people spun up, evidently some of the media is not above just making stuff up. The end result is the same -- more money.
We are all being played like fish in order to get our support (money).
Personally I am disappointed in Barack Obama. Not because he is black but because I wanted our first black president to do well by all Amercians, instead of being the party hack that he is turning out to be.
As it stands so far his socialistic dalliances and outright lies to the American people will unfortunately give strength to those who are stupid enough to hate a person because of their skin color.
To me he is a wasted opportunity. Such a pity.
TigerShark808
08-22-09, 03:42 PM
I don't think any NON white President is a wasted opportunity.
Obama is nothing more then a step in the right direction towards getting over the ignorance we hold in viewing what we see as an exceptable president.
He is a Black man that is President of the USA and yet he is a man.
Only racist IGNORANT people will see more into this.
HUMANS/MANS biggest weakness is we try to find something special in our individuality and not recognize that we all all apart of the same creature called MAN!
SUBMAN1
08-23-09, 12:36 PM
That is some pretty sleazy media manipulation. To deliberately not show the face of the man and then make a racial issue out of it.
At least I can tell my grand kids that I remembered when journalism was an actual profession. :nope:
By that time, they probably won't believe it.
"Come on Gramps, you mean there was a time when journalists were honourable professionals? Quit pulling our legs!"
Good way to describe it. I will never watch MSNBC again because of this blatant manipulation of the story. This makes me ask what else is being manipulated???? Probably everything they report!
-S
I don't think any NON white President is a wasted opportunity.
Obama is nothing more then a step in the right direction towards getting over the ignorance we hold in viewing what we see as an exceptable president.
He is a Black man that is President of the USA and yet he is a man.
Only racist IGNORANT people will see more into this.
HUMANS/MANS biggest weakness is we try to find something special in our individuality and not recognize that we all all apart of the same creature called MAN!
Then by your reasoning Obamas value ended the day he was elected. Significant i'll agree but personally I was hoping for more than just that. I wanted people to be able to say that Obama was just as good as any other president.
TigerShark808
08-23-09, 04:50 PM
Then by your reasoning Obamas value ended the day he was elected. Significant i'll agree but personally I was hoping for more than just that. I wanted people to be able to say that Obama was just as good as any other president.
And the jury is not out on that last I checked!
And the jury is not out on that last I checked!
True, there is still time for him to turn his Presidency around. I'm beginning to doubt it will happen though. I think it boils down to his inexperience. He's too easily influenced.
TigerShark808
08-23-09, 04:57 PM
Good way to describe it. I will never watch MSNBC again because of this blatant manipulation of the story. This makes me ask what else is being manipulated???? Probably everything they report!
-S
msnbc IS TOO FAR LEFT..just as fox is TOO FAR RIGHT!
Both will not come into a situation without first trying to attack the "other side".
What is sad is that the media should not be picking sides. They should be reporting a story without slanting in either direction.
AND FOX along with MSNBC HAS CHOOSEN A SIDE!
Fox is a joke when they claim the are UNBIASED. At least MSNBC dont stoop that low.
BUT both are sad IMO!
All for the money I guess!
AND FOX along with MSNBC HAS CHOOSEN A SIDE!
So have the rest of them. By my count:
To the left we have: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and PBS
To the right we have: FOX
TigerShark808
08-23-09, 07:17 PM
So have the rest of them. By my count:
To the left we have: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and PBS
To the right we have: FOX
I think I already said that:)
Anyways..just because the majority of the networks push the same agenda does not make it correct to push so hard the other way.
IMO there's not a single news network worth a crap in America.
News is not about reporting the truth any more .Its about slanting the truth in your direction!
I think I already said that:)
I was agreeing with you.
Anyways..just because the majority of the networks push the same agenda does not make it correct to push so hard the other way.I'm not so sure about that. However flawed, Fox reporting is the only dissenting voice among them. Without it there is nothing to keep the others even remotely honest. Perception becomes reality.
IMO there's not a single news network worth a crap in America.
News is not about reporting the truth any more .Its about slanting the truth in your direction!Here also we can agree.
SteamWake
08-23-09, 10:36 PM
40% approval rating.... I'm just sayin... :cool:
Max2147
08-23-09, 10:55 PM
So have the rest of them. By my count:
To the left we have: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and PBS
To the right we have: FOX
Sort of.
The way I see it, Fox is clearly on the right, and (MS)NBC is clearly on the left. Fox does a lot better job of it than MSNBC.
CNN used to be on the left, but now they're just stupid. They're not really even biased, they're just cr*p. CBS is irrelevant in the news world aside from half an hour every night.
In terms of news broadcasts, PBS is actually pretty unbiased. They provide real news, not infotainment like the 24 Hour networks. There's a reason Lehrer gets the first Presidential debate every year. When you get away from the news and into stuff like Frontline, then PBS shows some bias, but in terms of quality Frontline is still miles ahead of anything on the 24 Hour networks.
But the best news networks these days are beyond our borders. CNN International is still very good (which is shocking, considering how awful the regular CNN has become), and the BBC is still the gold standard.
Just out of interest; where do you place the BBC August?
Onkel Neal
08-24-09, 12:44 AM
And WSJ, NPR, Slate, and Economist? I need to update my score card.
CastleBravo
08-24-09, 12:49 AM
Just out of interest; where do you place the BBC August?
I'm not August...............
The BBC was founded by, and is operating under, a Royal Charter granted by the British monarch.
What do you think?
It is funded yearly by a television licence fee. This is charged to all United Kingdom households owning a television capable of receiving broadcasts.
Too funny. Advertisers get a free ride.
FIREWALL
08-24-09, 12:58 AM
BBC : Best Broadcasted Crap
ABC : Always broadcasted Crap
NBC : Nothing But Crap
CBS : Continues Broadcasting Sh!t
TBS : Total Broadcasted Sh!t
FOX : Full Of Xcretement
They all act like Garden Supply stores. Always trying to sell you a load of Crap. :yep:
They all act like Garden Supply stores. Always trying to sell you a load of Crap. :yep:
Pretty sure here on the farm we actually sold a load of crap to somebody once; to spread on his garden or something. :rotfl:
Tchocky
08-24-09, 02:56 AM
It is funded yearly by a television licence fee. This is charged to all United Kingdom households owning a television capable of receiving broadcasts.
Too funny. Advertisers get a free ride.
Yeah, BBC radio and TV is plagued with adverts.
I'm not August...............
What made you think I thought you where?
Max2147
08-24-09, 09:04 AM
I'm not August...............
The BBC was founded by, and is operating under, a Royal Charter granted by the British monarch.
What do you think?
It is funded yearly by a television licence fee. This is charged to all United Kingdom households owning a television capable of receiving broadcasts.
Too funny. Advertisers get a free ride.
Have you ever watched the BBC?
The BBC (and the Australian ABC and SBS and others like them) prove that there is a MASSIVE difference between state-controlled media and state-funded media.
Technically, the BBC is neither state-controlled media or state-funded.
The government doesn't give the BBC money, it just ensured that the BBC can
collect it's own through the license fee.
Just out of interest; where do you place the BBC August?
Difficult to judge because liberal and conservative, right and left, can mean different things overseas than they do here. Having said that though I do read their news feed a lot more than either MSNBC or Fox.
Pretty sure here on the farm we actually sold a load of crap to somebody once; to spread on his garden or something. :rotfl:
Good crap can be hard to get!
Zoomer96
08-24-09, 09:56 AM
I am a Republican so I didn't vote for President Obama. However, the fact that there are people carrying guns anywhere near this man is frightening to me. I do not think it is appropriate no matter what. I've heard that many black Americans believe that some white guy is going to shoot the President! I'm white and I for one do not want this to happen. Yeah, I didn't vote for him and I don't particularly care for many of his ideas to fix The United States but I believe that it would be the worst thing to happen to the country in decades. The country is almost evenly divided politically and something like that could split the country in two. I am a gun owner, I know how to handle firearms and learned at an early age how to operate, aim and fire them. I do not want to lose this right and I feel that if something happens to Obama those in power will use it to take away my right. This man has as much right to live as I do to own and bear arms. Actually he has more right to live than anyone does to bear arms. In my honest opinion, if some nut-job kills President Obama we'll have a race war. Perhaps I'm over dramatizing this but that's how I feel.....
ETR3(SS)
08-24-09, 03:49 PM
Someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong. After Alexander Hamilton was killed in a duel, did they outlaw dueling pistols? No. When Lincoln was assassinated did they outlaw guns then? No. On that fateful day in Dallas where President Kennedy was shot did they outlaw rifles? Again the answer is no. If someone assassinates President Obama they won't make guns illegal. And as for a race war, there's been one in this country for the past forty years.
GoldenRivet
08-24-09, 04:37 PM
Someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong. After Alexander Hamilton was killed in a duel, did they outlaw dueling pistols? No. When Lincoln was assassinated did they outlaw guns then? No. On that fateful day in Dallas where President Kennedy was shot did they outlaw rifles? Again the answer is no. If someone assassinates President Obama they won't make guns illegal. And as for a race war, there's been one in this country for the past forty years.
amen.
personally im pro segregation. i think we should have a segregated society... sorry but thats how i feel.
races naturally segregate anyhow.
peaceful coexistence through seperate but equal status.;)
mookiemookie
08-24-09, 04:39 PM
peaceful coexistence through seperate but equal status.;)
Someone much wiser than me once wrote: "separate educational facilities are inherently unequal."
GoldenRivet
08-24-09, 04:45 PM
Someone much wiser than me once wrote: "separate educational facilities are inherently unequal."
maybe.
however if you have a mandatory budget number which must be spent on each school, the white kids will only have whites to blame or praise for their scholastic performance.... the black kids will only have blacks to blame or praise for their scholastic performance etc.
when i was in high school i was there to learn, get into college and secure a nice job after it was all said and done - this was made rather difficult by the fact that blacks who were obviously in gangs would walk the halls four across shoving everyone out of the way chanting "raise up against whitey"
not the most appropriate environment for learning.
the problem is you have kids of various races who want to be there... and kids of various races who go out of their way to make everyone aware of the fact that they HATE being there.
SUBMAN1
08-24-09, 09:47 PM
maybe.
however if you have a mandatory budget number which must be spent on each school, the white kids will only have whites to blame or praise for their scholastic performance.... the black kids will only have blacks to blame or praise for their scholastic performance etc.
when i was in high school i was there to learn, get into college and secure a nice job after it was all said and done - this was made rather difficult by the fact that blacks who were obviously in gangs would walk the halls four across shoving everyone out of the way chanting "raise up against whitey"
not the most appropriate environment for learning.
the problem is you have kids of various races who want to be there... and kids of various races who go out of their way to make everyone aware of the fact that they HATE being there.
Is that the reason prisoners are separated in prison?
-S
Max2147
08-24-09, 10:39 PM
Separate but equal does NOT work. It's simply impossible.
For starters, our society isn't simply black and white. Besides blacks and whites (which on their own can be broken down into almost-infinite subgroups), we've got Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, Indians, Pacifikas, Canadians, and countless others. What schools would they go to?
Then there's the mixed-race people. Everybody calls Obama a black man, but he had a white mother and was raised by white parents. What school would he have gone to?
Segregation also induces racism. If you're in a room with a black person, you're probably not going to say too many racist things against them, and if you do you'll get somebody telling you it's wrong. But if you're just with your white friends, I imagine you're a lot more likely to say something racist and get away with it. I know that's how it works with my friends and myself. Heck, in the worst days of racism in America, the most racist people weren't the rednecks in the south, it was the white urban poor in the Northeast who almost never saw black people.
But the biggest thing is that being around people that are different than you makes life more interesting. I'd hate it if everybody I met was just like me. One of the reasons I hang around this forum is that most people here have different views than me. The same is true for races. I'm always especially interested to hear what people of different races have to say on hot-button issues or just hear their stories, since it's often something I haven't heard or thought about before. It's cliche, but variety really is the spice of life. Embrace it.
FIREWALL
08-24-09, 11:19 PM
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/icons/icon1.gif The media is racist
Yeh... It's always about some black guy lately. :haha:
Separate but equal does NOT work. It's simply impossible.
For starters, our society isn't simply black and white. Besides blacks and whites (which on their own can be broken down into almost-infinite subgroups), we've got Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, Indians, Pacifikas, Canadians, and countless others. What schools would they go to?
Then there's the mixed-race people. Everybody calls Obama a black man, but he had a white mother and was raised by white parents. What school would he have gone to?
Segregation also induces racism. If you're in a room with a black person, you're probably not going to say too many racist things against them, and if you do you'll get somebody telling you it's wrong. But if you're just with your white friends, I imagine you're a lot more likely to say something racist and get away with it. I know that's how it works with my friends and myself. Heck, in the worst days of racism in America, the most racist people weren't the rednecks in the south, it was the white urban poor in the Northeast who almost never saw black people.
But the biggest thing is that being around people that are different than you makes life more interesting. I'd hate it if everybody I met was just like me. One of the reasons I hang around this forum is that most people here have different views than me. The same is true for races. I'm always especially interested to hear what people of different races have to say on hot-button issues or just hear their stories, since it's often something I haven't heard or thought about before. It's cliche, but variety really is the spice of life. Embrace it.
Well said.
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