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Kapitan Soniboy
08-15-09, 04:26 PM
Hi

Is it possible to remove the deck gun later in career? Some subs don't have a deck gun in late war. I've had my VIIc since the beginning of the war but now in mid 1943 I want it removed since it looks more "pro" :oops:. Of course, you can get the last conning tower upgrade with three heavy flak emplacements but is it another way?

Thanks :sunny:

Rhodes
08-15-09, 06:59 PM
Yes, Using SH3 Commander!

Kapitan Soniboy
08-15-09, 09:23 PM
Sorry... I have only GWX

Jimbuna
08-16-09, 06:06 AM
My advice would be to use SH3 Commander also. It is a standalone programme which enhances the options of GWX gameplay tremendously.

Melonfish
08-16-09, 06:47 AM
seconded! its a class program and really helps with the immersion!

mookiemookie
08-16-09, 07:02 AM
Thirded. One of the most helpful and steady additions to SH3.

Kapitan Soniboy
08-16-09, 07:35 AM
Wow it sounds really good. I'll try it!:yeah:

nikbear
08-16-09, 08:07 AM
You won't regret it,its brilliant and really adds to immersion factor.
As well as giving you control over many aspects of gameplay,such as removing the deck gun:salute::salute::salute:

HW3
08-16-09, 08:15 AM
Be sure to install the GWX cfg files for SH3 Commander.

Jimbuna
08-16-09, 04:41 PM
Be sure to install the GWX cfg files for SH3 Commander.

Available from my GWX3.0 FF account (bottom link below sig). :DL

Mittelwaechter
08-17-09, 04:31 AM
I've got the latest SH3 Commander - but there is no option to remove the deck gun. Am I missing something or do I have to fiddle with the files?

mookiemookie
08-17-09, 08:07 AM
No, you don't have to monkey with any of the files. I believe the remove deck gun option is under the "Click for available actions" menu. Poke around in the menus...you'll find it.

Kapitan Soniboy
08-17-09, 10:29 AM
I can't find a way to remove it :cry:

nikbear
08-17-09, 10:39 AM
When you open up Sh3Cmdr and your looking at the piccy of the chap in charge,your Kaleun:03:On the page opposite is the U-boat number and type of U-boat,if you click on U-boat type it will give you the option to 'Remove'
Thats all you need to do:yeah:

Kapitan Soniboy
08-17-09, 11:30 AM
Wow thanks:rotfl:! So sorry to bother you. This is just too easy. Hehe

nikbear
08-17-09, 03:19 PM
Glad to help out,remember though,removing the D/G doesn't give you any increase in underwater speed:nope:
And its 'Sods' law that as soon as you do something good will appear on the horizon and you'll have no eels left.....and no D/G either:wah:
This scenario happened to me,removed the Gun as per KM stipulation, and on the way home bumped into 2 medium merchie's with no escort,and calm 'millpond' like conditions :damn: Had to watch them sail away with nothing to do but curse:cry::cry:

Kapitan Soniboy
08-17-09, 04:43 PM
Glad to help out,remember though,removing the D/G doesn't give you any increase in underwater speed:nope:
And its 'Sods' law that as soon as you do something good will appear on the horizon and you'll have no eels left.....and no D/G either:wah:
This scenario happened to me,removed the Gun as per KM stipulation, and on the way home bumped into 2 medium merchie's with no escort,and calm 'millpond' like conditions :damn: Had to watch them sail away with nothing to do but curse:cry::cry:

Bah:down:. It really should give you a speed boost with with the deck gun and all the ammunition gone. But I just wanted it removed since I was never able to use it in late war because of all the merchies armed to their teeth, and it looks pretty cool without it:yep:. More "pro" and more like a submarine if you know what I mean:arrgh!:

Mittelwaechter
08-17-09, 06:46 PM
Thanks for the deck gun help gents! It's really easy but you have to know it...


If you want to increase submerged speed, roll back SH Commander and edit

...\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\data\Submarine\NSS_Ubo atXX\NSS_UboatXX.cfg


http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/smilies/salute.gif

mookiemookie
08-17-09, 07:16 PM
If I remember right, the reason why there was no corresponding increase in speed added by the modders was that no data exists on how much speed was added by removing the deck gun. Was it a half a knot? A full knot? A fraction of a knot? Who knows!

JScones
08-17-09, 07:51 PM
Bah:down:. It really should give you a speed boost with with the deck gun and all the ammunition gone.
Should it? Pls provide your conclusive data so we all can put this never ending question to bed. :up:

You may like to read through this... http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=92490 and this http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php...5071#msg-65071 (http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?20,65071,65071#msg-65071)

Do you hear crickets in response to VH's request for solid data?

Nearly every one says--as if it's fact--that "you should get a speed boost" but no-one provides conclusive data so it's all merely speculative. With no conclusive data ever provided, the choice not to model any positive effects was really a no brainer, especially when, in the absence of proof, the arguments against any positive effects are so damning.

Also keep in mind - any positive effects would be more than offset through upgrading your conning tower, wintergarten, or adding a snorkel...yet no-one seems to complain that SH3 doesn't decrease their boat's performance when such equipment is added. :hmmm:

Kapitan Soniboy
08-17-09, 08:04 PM
Should it? Pls provide your conclusive data so we all can put this never ending question to bed. :up:

You may like to read through this... http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=92490 and this http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php...5071#msg-65071 (http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?20,65071,65071#msg-65071)

Do you hear crickets in response to VH's request for solid data?

Nearly every one says--as if it's fact--that "you should get a speed boost" but no-one provides conclusive data so it's all merely speculative. With no conclusive data ever provided, the choice not to model any positive effects was really a no brainer, especially when, in the absence of proof, the arguments against any positive effects are so damning.

Also keep in mind - any positive effects would be more than offset through upgrading your conning tower, wintergarten, or adding a snorkel...yet no-one seems to complain that SH3 doesn't decrease their boat's performance when such equipment is added. :hmmm:

Sorry:oops:. When looking at it from your point of view I agree. Thanks for the links though. I'll give the (your shooting days are over) MOD a try just for the fun of it.

JScones
08-17-09, 08:09 PM
Which is why I like linking to that thread - it provides both a mod "for" as well as comments "against" performance enhancement. So you can pick a viewpoint that suits you and run with it.