Theater Poll Request

[scrapser]

Now that the cat's pretty much out of the bag, can we get a poll of people who want another U-boat sim or would like to see the developers take another crack at the Pacific theater...or both?

I know U-boats are popular in Europe and since the development is in Europe it's not surprising to see U-boats. But this does not negate the fact that people in the US are also interested in their own legacy.

Also, why is there this tendency to focus on U-boats over Fleet boats? All other venues (armor, aircraft, grunts) tend to have more of a balance regardless of where the development is done. There were more warships involved in the Pacific and large naval engagements where subs played an important role. Both theaters had lots of merchants but the Atlantic thinned down to mostly merchant convoys late in the war. Both sides had air patrols to contend with but only the Pacific had a large number of carriers.

I don't get the attraction of the Atlantic in terms of what the action focused on. Sinking nothing but merchants gets a bit routine after awhile.

[DaveU186]

I must say I'm pretty happy they've confirmed they're going back to the Atlantic u-boat battleground.

[Hanomag]

I must say I'm pretty happy they've confirmed they're going back to the Atlantic u-boat battleground.

DITTO! :up:

[BulSoldier]

U boats are more popular and atractive (atleast in my opinion) since it is about german navy (witch is mainly uboats) versus everyone elses mercahnt and military navys(apart from italy and few other countries (one of witch my own). It gets harder as time flies by.

Further more the pacific theater is more popular because of its surface ships (carriers, battleships so on) and their submarines are more or less left behind the scenes (though it cant be argued their great contribution to the war effort)

In the end everything comes down to surviving another they as hunters became hunted.

[mookiemookie]

Not to be too snarky, but the poll on the choice of theater has already been done: the SH4 sales figures vs the SH3 sales figures.

[Task Force]

Id take the atlanic... like said, the picific realy isnt a theatre where alot of people know subs hunted.:yep:

[Hanomag]

I was exposed to the PTO 1st. When I was younger I read about the adventures of the Trigger et al.

For some reason I lost interest in the Pacific and as a gamer I definitely prefer the Atlantic Theater. Even as far as other games and sims are concerned I always choose to play the German side. :arrgh!:

[Laufen zum Ziel]

I love cold and blustry wheather.

[dcb]

To add my two cents, I'd go for the Atlantic anytime, because that's where the submarine war really got interesting. In fact, the Atlantic WAS the submarine war. Or, to put it the other way around, the only war that mattered in the Atlantic was the submarine campaign. Everything there was developed with the Uboat war in mind - tactics, countermeasures, new weapons and devices... The destiny of a country - the UK - was at stake here and the fight was really fierce, ruthless. That's the reason for the higher interest for the ATO, I believe.
In the Pacific, surface task forces were the name of the game, with aircraft carriers as superstars. Of course, submarines from both sides saw their share of operations, crews fought and died bravely here too, but by no means can we speak about an all-out submarine war here. The very concept of 'fleet boat', i.e. submarines that should have accompanied and protected large surface fleets, proves what were the priorities in the strategic game.
So, in terms of challenge, I guess a submarine game - if done right - would be much more interesting in the ATO, with its wolfpack tactics, BdU coordination and an enemy that gets stronger each year - than in PTO, where US boats hunted alone, against a Japanese navy that put little threat toward the end of the war.
Bottom line, one week from now hopefully we'll know what SH5 will look like, and then maybe all of us will be surprised. The long wait is nearing its end:woot:

[Kapt Z]

Personally, I'm torn on which theatre I prefer. I loved the Pacific in Silent Hunter and now I love the Atlantic in Silent Hunter III(my machine can't handle SHIV so no idea about that).

I usually prefer playing as the 'underdog' in PC games. The Fleet boats had lot's of problems and had to hold the line in the beginning, but with the might of the US Navy helping to distract the IJN they were hardly alone. The U-boats really were all by themselves against the weight of the Allied forces. It's really amazing that they sank so much with so few boats.

[Brag]

In the Atlantic the U-boats where the focal point of both sides. :salute:

[Mittelwaechter]

"I love the smell of cold Atlantic spray in the morning!"

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[Brag]

This discussion is over-- SH5 is U boats , due out next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DaveU186]

I think Ubisoft confirmed on their upcoming releases page that it was u-boats in the Atlantic, and all new coding. May be wrong though.

[Brag]

We are probably at least a year away from SH 5 release and we will see a lot of speculation ln the meantime. I imagine that a lot og SH-5 will be GWX stuff.

[Spadefish]

Would be great to have the U-Boats + maybe the Brit boats out of Malta. Able to play both sides.

[Jaman]

Since i´ve played both SH3 and 4 for a while, i can say ill stick to the Atlantic. I dont know what it is, but it has something special and also i like more the Kriegsmarine an its U-Boats than the US Navy (guess Das Boot did a number on me :D).
I´ve got bored of SH4 after a week but im still playing SH3 so that´s got to mean something.

[Mopy]

I like U-Boat centric theme a lot, and would jump at the chance to revisit it, so Atlantic for me.

[Task Force]

I it just me, or has no one mentioned the picific.:rotfl:

[Leg]

Atlantic for the win

[Jimbuna]

Not that I am saying you are lying, but many posters on forums are wind up merchants.

Is this true? Thumbs up if it is tho.

It was confirmed a good while back that SH5 was to be an Atlantic theatre based U-boat game.

The question is......what sides will be playable and will there be a Pacific theatre addon in the future.

[JMV]

They certainly did a good job at UBI with SH3, and I do not forget that the base of the game is very good. The problem with those guys is :
1 ) They want to make money quickly. ( Not only UBI )
2 ) They don' t want to take the needed time for making a near perfect game ( or as near as... ) and they don't polish their work enough. ( I mean , look at Age of Empire II, the top notch quality that game was at the time. The problems with this game were really scarce and IMHO this was a leader in the genre, and for years ).
Look at Bethesda for example and the incredible success they have with Elder Scrolls IV and Fallout III... ( on X-Box )
3 ) Also they don't want to take advise from anybody and anything you can say they don't care. They prefer to rush like mad and make money instantly with a half finished game , not understanding that making something twice better would double their profit as well as the lifespan of their products.
If those guys would really allows their engeners conceptors etc.. ( that they pay ) to express their full potential and not always restraining their talent and creativity with money deadlines and what not, may be one day they could equal people as those in the GWX team, that do that for free...

[JMV]

Also I think they should make games for the majority rather than inceasing the game Specs all the time. I mean, now everytime a new game is on the market, you either have to buy a new PC, or a new card, or what not else...

[gadflyjs]

I play both SHIII and SHIV, Atlantic and Pacific, but only fight for the German side:rock:

I first came across submarine is a story on Reader's Digest, about sinking of Japanese aircraft carrier Shinano by USS Archer-Fish (SS-311). But later, I find that the submarine war was more intensive at the ATO, and the look of u-boat is cooler that those fleet boat. Like Kapt Z said, underdog is more interesting and challenging.

[Bent Periscope]

I'll take the U-Boats in the Atlantic. There is an excitement to the hunter becoming the hunted.

[Melonfish]

i'm quite happy they're back in the atlantic! the battle for the atlantic was truely pivotal and its an intense theatre.
i must admit i don't know much about fleet boat ops in the pacific and i'm at a loss to understand or even tell apart most of the US subs but i reckon an addon akin to or perhaps better then the u-boat add on for shIV would be excellent.

[Sailor Steve]

I'm a both kind of guy. I loved Aces Of The Deep in the Atlantic, and I loved Silent Hunter in the Pacific. If forced into a choice I would take Atlantic first, not because I like it better, but because I like to play from the start of the war and run several campaigns side-by-side, and of course that means two years in the u-boats before America even enters the war.

That's why European Air War was my favorite WW2 flight sim, because I could campaign both sides. Anything less is frustrating for me.

[Jimbuna]

I'll take the U-Boats in the Atlantic. There is an excitement to the hunter becoming the hunted.

That's probably a major consideration for the majority of sub simmers, especially those who prefer the Atlantic battlefield http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif

[Kapitan Soniboy]

Since SHIV I've learned alot about US fleet boats but I don't like the beginning of the game. Duds and sucky submarines. The japs don't even know how to fight a submarine! And it gets easier and easier to play because Japanese ASW tactics nearly improve during the war. One reason I like playing SH4 is because of the visual effects, but now I've got GWX 3.0 for SH3:yeah:. I really love SH4 but it's just wrong that the game starts hard and ends easy... I want the next game to be in the Atlantic.

(Sorry for my bad spelling if there is any. Too tired to think about my grammar at the moment)