Graphics card melt-down

[Snakeeyes]

Well... I HAD an Nvidia 8800 GTS a few hours ago. I fired up Rainbow Six Vegas 2... saw a pyschadelic display and my computer crashed to the desktop at 640x400 resolution. LOL!

Get this... my new flight chair arrives tomorrow. Well... I'll just take this one in the ass I guess.


I guess I'm in the market for a new card. I'm looking to pay around $230 with a possible performance boost.

I need recommendations sub buddies.

[AVGWarhawk]

Nvidia 9800 or better:D

[Snakeeyes]

I'm amazed how cheap graphics cards are now!!!!!

Thanks for the vote mate. I'll put it in the research pile.

[FIREWALL]

@Snakeeyes Sorry to hear about this expensive loss.

If you live in USA I recommend TigerDirect if you live in California.

More choices and just about the best prices.

Hope you find a good deal. :salute:

edit: I think we also have a swapmeet forum here too.

[Armistead]

What I got not long ago. I can't tell a big difference between it and my older 9800, some crisper colors, little faster. The good news is we can now get great video cards cheap. Even a 9600gt only $70.00

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010167&prodlist=cj

[Snakeeyes]

Thanks man. I like tiger, newegg and fryes... in that order. :)

Hmmm... whats more important... a new windshield for the jeep or a graphics card?

FRIGGIN' GRAPHICS CARD! I'LL WEAR GOGGLES!

[Task Force]

Yea, I almost had a similar experience with my 8800gts.:shifty: Lots of colors, and a crash... (but mine kept on ticking.)

[FIREWALL]

Thanks man. I like tiger, newegg and fryes... in that order. :)

Hmmm... whats more important... a new windshield for the jeep or a graphics card?

FRIGGIN' GRAPHICS CARD! I'LL WEAR GOGGLES!

I would have posted Newegg and Fry's but I pay almost 10% sales tax here in Calif.

I have a buddy that had to do that to get his car to the shop to get the windshield fixed. :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Snakeeyes]

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Chipset Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Core Clock: 675MHz
Stream Processors: 128
Memory Clock: 2200MHz (effective)
DirectX: DirectX 10
OpenGL: OpenGL 2.1

If I'm running on XP will Direct X 10 be a problem?

[Task Force]

You can run DX 9 on a DX10 card...

[Snakeeyes]

Thanks man. Just checking.

[Task Force]

yea, I myself am planing on upgradeing from this 8800 later this year... this card is really starting to show its age...:shifty:

[FIREWALL]

yea, I myself am planing on upgradeing from this 8800 later this year... this card is really starting to show its age...:shifty:

BFG 295 GTX H2O :up:

[Snakeeyes]

I'm going to guess that it's water-cooled? I'd better not.

[Task Force]

I myself am thinking of getting 2 275 gtx's (or maby one 285/295, hell nvidia might have the 300 series cards out then.)

[Snakeeyes]

That would melt my brain and I would never leave the house. I just want the little pictures to move and look nice.

[Task Force]

I myself am tierd of buying graphics cards to run stuff/ looking at slideshows...

[FIREWALL]

I myself am thinking of getting 2 275 gtx's (or maby one 285/295, hell nvidia might have the 300 series cards out then.)

I have bfg 295gtx h2o x 2 with gigabyte extreme gamer mobo, ci7 975 extreme, 24 gig ocz ddr3 ram and the psu to run it with liquid cooling.

Reason: Not have to upgrade for quite awhile.:DL

See all you upgraders in 2015. :rotfl:

[Snakeeyes]

You are da sheet man!:yeah:

[Task Force]

I wonder when Nvidia will release there 300 series cards.
I hear the will support DX 10.1, hopefuly DX 11 also.:yep:

[FIREWALL]

You are da sheet man!:yeah:


I hope that means a good thing. :rotfl:

[Snakeeyes]

Yes, old '80s term. Used as in here: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/8875-tf2

[Task Force]

yep its a good term...

kind of means the same thing as... thats awsome...

[FIREWALL]

Yes, old '80s term. Used as in here: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/8875-tf2

yep its a good term...

kind of means the same thing as... thats awsome...

I'm Honered. Can I put you both on my friends list ? :up:

I'm 80ish :DL and 40ish yo :rotfl:

[Task Force]

Sure.:up:

[Snakeeyes]

rock on... if you like the '80s visit my youtube page at

http://www.youtube.com/cobrabase


especially http://www.youtube.com/cobrabase#play/user/E17349B633275F9E

[AVGWarhawk]

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Chipset Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Core Clock: 675MHz
Stream Processors: 128
Memory Clock: 2200MHz (effective)
DirectX: DirectX 10
OpenGL: OpenGL 2.1
If I'm running on XP will Direct X 10 be a problem?


Got that exact card. Love it :03:

[RodBorza]

Thanks man. I like tiger, newegg and fryes... in that order. :)

Hmmm... whats more important... a new windshield for the jeep or a graphics card?

FRIGGIN' GRAPHICS CARD! I'LL WEAR GOGGLES!


Hahahaha!! Funny...but real!:arrgh!:

[Snakeeyes]

Hmmmm I'd love to get
XFX GX275XADQC GeForce GTX 275 896MB 448-bit DDR3 PCI Express


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150364

But I only have a 500 watt power supply. Engineers... will I have a problem with power if I'm not running SLI graphics?

[AVGWarhawk]

It is all about amps. See what your PSU is putting out amp-wise and then find out how many amps the card needs to run correctly.

[Rockin Robbins]

Needs 575 watts for single card, 680 for sli. Whew! You'll brown-out the neighborhood.:up::up::up:

[Snakeeyes]

Yeah... I think I'm screwed.... my power supply is maximum 500 watts....

specs on the card state: Minimum 550 Watt or greater system power supply with a 12V current rating of 40A (630 Watt or greater recommended for non-SLI and 680 Watt or greater recommended for SLI)


The only things I have in my slots are a low power wireless antenna, and my sound card.

Here is my power supply specs... sorry for the poor photo but you would not believe how I had to contort myself to get in there upside down.


http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn174/cobrabase/0805090940.jpg

The verdict? I can't afford a new power supply...

If no good with only these power specs I would love to ask what card you would recommend as your #2 :cry:

[AVGWarhawk]

The 9800 should run fine with this supply I believe.

[Snakeeyes]

Yeah... I think that I'll have to bend over this time and not really upgrade.

[Snakeeyes]

The 9800 should run fine with this supply I believe.


What about??????

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130434

[AVGWarhawk]

It is looking for 36 amps. Your PSU is cranking 17 amps on the 12V rail. The card will run but it is possible for the card to fail with the power to be very low from the PSU.

Go for the 9800 you were looking at. With that card you can get a bigger PSU supply also!

[AVGWarhawk]

If you were willing to put out $250.00 for just that one card.....


Get the 9800 and this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

It also has a $20.00 mail in rebate also after the sale price!


BTW, I did read were the difference between the 9800 and the 295 yadda yadda Nvidia card was basically the price. Food for thought.

[Snakeeyes]

If you were willing to put out $250.00 for just that one card.....





Get the 9800 and this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

It also has a $20.00 mail in rebate also after the sale price!


BTW, I did read were the difference between the 9800 and the 295 yadda yadda Nvidia card was basically the price. Food for thought.



Roger that. I think you're right.

[FIREWALL]

That card looks good. And by the time you receive your rebate check SH5 should just about be released. :haha: :rotfl:

But thats about normal. :DL

[AVGWarhawk]

I have the 9800 and I run SH4 full max. COD World at War full max. Nothing stops the card.

[AVGWarhawk]

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image/skymtl/GPU/9800GT-ROUNDUP/ROUNDUP-86.jpg

You are getting a good bang for your buck with the 9800.

[Snakeeyes]

That card looks good. And by the time you receive your rebate check SH5 should just about be released. :haha: :rotfl:

But thats about normal. :DL

LOL!! You know it! I only receive rebate checks 50% of the time.

[Snakeeyes]

http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image/skymtl/GPU/9800GT-ROUNDUP/ROUNDUP-86.jpg

You are getting a good bang for your buck with the 9800.

You think I'll see a difference in graphics intensive games like Arma from my 8800GTS?

[AVGWarhawk]

Looking at the graphic I would say no. But, that is all subjective because RAM and CPU speeds play a factor in total overall game experience.

[Snakeeyes]

Looking at the graphic I would say no. But, that is all subjective because RAM and CPU speeds play a factor in total overall game experience.

I'm thinking maybe a little FPS boost. We'll see. To be honest, upgrading was a bonus when my 8800 went to Davey Jones' Locker.

[FIREWALL]

LOL!! You know it! I only receive rebate checks 50% of the time.

And then the bank says it will take 10 days to clear. :damn: :haha:

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm thinking maybe a little FPS boost. We'll see. To be honest, upgrading was a bonus when my 8800 went to Davey Jones' Locker.

Whatever the case, you will be playing and playing it very well. In the end, that is all that matters. :D

[FIREWALL]

And then the bank says it will take 10 days to clear. :damn: :haha:

Or Bounce.:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

[Seeadler]

Well... I HAD an Nvidia 8800 GTS a few hours ago. I fired up Rainbow Six Vegas 2... saw a pyschadelic display and my computer crashed to the desktop at 640x400 resolution.
Funny, I had the same last sunday with my Nvidia 8800 GTX. I started Darkest Hour, the screen went into green vertikal stripes like Matrix and then back to desktop. After reboot, the display showed still these green stripes and every time some seconds later came a blue screen -> VRAM corrupted.

Yesterday I bought a Nvidia 275 GTX, which was cheaper as the 8800GTX at his time.:know:

[Snakeeyes]

Weird!!! Was there an EMP somewhere to which the 8800GTS was vulnerable?!

[Task Force]

Why do I feel Im next...:o I DONT WANA HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY 8200...:wah:

[Snakeeyes]

Why do I feel Im next...:o I DONT WANA HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY 8200...:wah:

Maybe the chinese are testing weapons.... lock your card in a lead-lined safe dude.

[Task Force]

lol... how old was you twos cards... mines around 2 years old... and has been overclocked that entire 2 years... (and as Ive said before overheated once...)

[AVGWarhawk]

Sounds like scheduled obsolesence on the 8800 card. RUN :o

[Task Force]

lol, IT WONT DIE... lol

Well, atleast it runs cool.. (57degrees, crysis overclocked to around 600 core 875 memory...)

Its running at 47 degrees at idle.

[The Bandit]

Unfortuneatly this has been happening, a lot with Nvidia GPUs in laptops. I can't bring up a link off the top of my head but go google Nvidia GPU Solder problem, hitting some of their laptop parts (6150, 8400MGS and 8600MGS to name a few) really hard. I have heard of some desktop cards failing (8400, 8500 and 8600) but I haven't heard of this affecting the 8800s until now. I used to have an 8800GT that ran pretty damn hot (stock reference cooling system, she would hit 100*C under load) but I am quite happy with my ATI HD4870. I usually recommend ATI now for GPUs, even though they do have some driver issues, I have to say that in my experience the MODERN (I.E came out within the last 2 years) ATI cards/chips are more reliable than Nvidia has become. Either way good luck with your new card.

[Task Force]

Yea... Did you turn the fans up The Bandit... cause my card never goes up past 65degrees under load...:yep:

[The Bandit]

yeah I could ramp up the fan on it and it would help out a bit, fan was quite loud on it though and led to an RMA (The bearing or somthing went in it and the fan blades started rubbing on the fan sink). This was the 8800GT just packs too much in a single slot layout. my 4870 gets never runs over 65*C and has a really nice cooler but I think it also has better thermal management for triggering the fans.

[Task Force]

it may make noise... but I dont care... lol...

But your temps... what were your clocks?

[The Bandit]

I can't remember off of the top of my head. It was a factory OC card and I pretty much left the timings alone (never was slow doing anything so I figured why bother), all I really did was turn u p the fan. As far as I know the guy who has it now still has the 2nd card working for him (mentioned in the first post that my first one was RMAed due to a bad fan)

[Task Force]

Was it the 8800gts 640 mb version thats factory overclocked... I have that one... runs quite cool, maby its your case...

actualy... just played with crysis...(like to blow up things in that game.lol)

I got board and cranked up the resoultion to 16xx x 1xxx... amasingly it ran it with alittle lag... with a new custom config im useing, and some settings on veary high... card got only up to 62 degrees when I exited.

[The Bandit]

nope, mine was a 512mb 8800GT not a GTS, mine was only single slot, yours runs so cool because it has a 2 slot design (the heat sink and fan take up another slot in the case which also doubles as an exhaust port to vent hot air out of the case) where as the single slot one not only has a smaller heat sink but just vents the air down into the case.
Here is what mine looks like
http://i.neoseeker.com/neo_image/157321/article/bfg8800_GT_OC/good2_thumb.jpg

[Task Force]

Thats why... Glad I got the 8800 I did. (wish I hat the GTX or ultra though.):yep:

[Snakeeyes]

Guys the 9800GTX arrived today and I see a clear difference from my old 8800. I can run ARMA maxed out with complete wide screen. I'm impressed. All your help pays off tomorrow when I really try this puppy out.

thanks buddies

[FIREWALL]

Congrats Snakeeyes :woot:Hope this card gives you long service and lots of enjoyment. :salute:

[Task Force]

Glad to hear that snakeeyes.:up: