My career ended too soon? And problems ...

[Rafael]

My career (Peter Lenke) has ended too soon! :hmmm:

However, via SH3 Commander I can continue with a new Commander. :arrgh!:

SPEED PROBLEM (DURING MY LAST PATROL) SEE IMAGE BELOW:

View the (full) speed and look bottom left 5 knots? North Sea VIIB rough sea.

Question 1: is this a bug or normal? It was impossible to go any faster than 5 knots at maximum speed?

NEXT IMAGE, EVERYTIME PROBLEMS WITH COMPRESSED AIR:

Here is an image so you are able to see the compressed air. I submerged for only a couple of minutes and surfaced to see if compressed air has been changed.

I did not do anything (did not use blow ballast) ... can somebody explain me why the compressed air has been changed?

Thanks!

:salute:

[GoldenRivet]

do you have the "malfunctions and sabotage" option in SH3 Commander checked?

if so that will explain a lot of your problems.

also, if you select "use realistic career length" your commander will be retired after a random number of patrols

[Rafael]

do you have the "malfunctions and sabotage" option in SH3 Commander checked?

if so that will explain a lot of your problems.

also, if you select "use realistic career length" your commander will be retired after a random number of patrols

Thanks Golden :up:, yes I have the "malfunctions and sabotage" option activated. But I thought that I could repair (during a patrol) certain malfunctions. Thanks to you, I now understand that your crew cannot repair these.

Indeed "realistic career length" is also what I am using, but I did not know that my career would end soooo soon! It's June 1940.

Now I am wondering if more sub-simmers use the "malfunctions and sabotage" option and "realistic career length"?

Furthermore, my Kapitänleutnant did not retired, he went to Kiel for another job at the Kriegsmarine (that was the SH3 Commander message) LOL!

Thanks again for teaching me this specific lesson! :know:

[Rafael]

Another question ...

See image below, on the same patrol (North Sea) I saw on my map a grey sinked ship. I was not in that area.

There were a lot of allied warships, did the Luftwaffe sinked the grey ship on my map? I cannot imagine that, because of the bad weather. There were allied planes that could not see me too.

Thanks again! :yep:

[Jimbuna]

Due to the fact your exploits as a Kaleun preceed you it scuttled to save itself from your wrath :DL

Tis a ship that has sunk for whatever reason, weather, mine, aircraft, whilst in rendering range but not as a direct result of your intervention.

[Rafael]

Due to the fact your exploits as a Kaleun preceed you it scuttled to save itself from your wrath :DL

Tis a ship that has sunk for whatever reason, weather, mine, aircraft, whilst in rendering range but not as a direct result of your intervention.

:salute: Meduza! (Stupid me! I meant JIMBUNA)

I have seen a similar ship (armed trawler) near the Dutch coast as well. This ship was quite far away and I submerged my boat. Same patrol ...

The armed trawler was searching for me ... I could see the hydrophone lines on my map and a couple of hours later this vessel also was grey ... so I surfaced! :up:

What the hell did sunk this armed vessel near the Dutch coast line on 1 June 1940?

1. Rough weahther ... no I don't think so.
2. Mines near the Dutch coast (Den Helder) ... no in my honest opinion.
3. Maybe a German warship (but I did not hear any other ship) ... no again.
4. It must be the Luftwaffe, but also rather impossible with bad weather.

This is "hocus pocus" to me ... if this is correct English language too?

Mysterious ... and ghosty last patrol for Peter Lenke! LOL :arrgh!:

p.s. I am getting older and my mind is not always working 100%, sorry for the name mistake! :yep:

[Sailor Steve]

Thanks Golden :up:, yes I have the "malfunctions and sabotage" option activated. But I thought that I could repair (during a patrol) certain malfunctions. Thanks to you, I now understand that your crew cannot repair these.
No, you can't repair them, but if you save and exit they will be repaired when you reload.

Indeed "realistic career length" is also what I am using, but I did not know that my career would end soooo soon! It's June 1940.
It's based partly on how many patrols you have completed. I think the random factor starts after six patrols, but you might get twice that before being retired from active duty. You can also 'unretire'.

Now I am wondering if more sub-simmers use the "malfunctions and sabotage" option and "realistic career length"?
I use 'Realistic Career Length' and 'Malfunctions', but not 'Sabotage'. Maybe if I ever have a career last long enough that I get based in France...

Furthermore, my Kapitänleutnant did not retired, he went to Kiel for another job at the Kriegsmarine (that was the SH3 Commander message) LOL!
He retired from active sea duty, but not from the KM itself.

This is "hocus pocus" to me ... if this is correct English language too?
Perfect English, actually. Yes, one of the problems with SH3 is ships sinking from bad weather. It happens quite a lot.

[Rafael]

Thanks Steve! :yep:

Everything makes more sense to me.

But what is the difference between:

1) Malfunctions.
2) Sabotage.

Hmmm .... "sabotage", I always think of a crew member that is a spy! (OKAY I KNOW ME DUMMY) :rotfl:

[Sailor Steve]

Malfunctions: Little things go wrong, sometimes.

Sabotage: Some of the dock crews are with the French underground, and make big things go wrong.

I'm not sure of all the differences, just that Sabotage happens more often and the problems are worse.

[Rafael]

Malfunctions: Little things go wrong, sometimes.

Sabotage: Some of the dock crews are with the French underground, and make big things go wrong.

I'm not sure of all the differences, just that Sabotage happens more often and the problems are worse.

Ahhh ... OK! Thanks Professor Steve :know:

But sabotage in my specific case in May, June 1940 (Wilhelmshaven) and French underground would not be correct. The problems that I had must be malfunctions ... however, these were quite big.

Compressed air problems, speed problems and probably more. Also TC didn't work good. I could use max. 8 TC!

So for the first time I ever played, I saved and dock at Wilhelmshaven, because of the TC problem and no torpedoes left anymore.

Until now (I play SH3 for a couple of months), I never could reach for example, the year 1942!

[Sailor Steve]

But sabotage in my specific case in May, June 1940 (Wilhelmshaven) and French underground would not be correct. The problems that I had must be malfunctions ... however, these were quite big.
That's one of the problems: it doesn't distinguish dates or locations. If you have sabotage enabled it can happen anytime, anywhere.

[GoldenRivet]

Ahhh ... OK! Thanks Professor Steve :know:

But sabotage in my specific case in May, June 1940 (Wilhelmshaven) and French underground would not be correct. The problems that I had must be malfunctions ... however, these were quite big.

Compressed air problems, speed problems and probably more. Also TC didn't work good. I could use max. 8 TC!

So for the first time I ever played, I saved and dock at Wilhelmshaven, because of the TC problem and no torpedoes left anymore.

Until now (I play SH3 for a couple of months), I never could reach for example, the year 1942!

could have been a sympathizer for the allies?

but like steve said it doesnt detect date or base... all it sees is that you have checked the sabotage box and it applies the sabotage randomly.

as far as what sank your mystery ship...

could have been weather if the weather is severe enough and the ship small enough.

any time the sinking icon is grey, the ship basically sank for some uncredited reason that had nothing to do with you.

[Rafael]

I'll get it now. My brains are working again :up:

FYI

Don't forget that I am a heart patient since 1984 and my by-passes are now 20 years old and clogged again (open heart operation on 2 August 1989). And still too much medications.

For me, subsim.com is a great place to be. I lie in bed with my laptop and it's a perfect alternative if you cannot do anything more in life.

Thanks guys! :yep: It is 100% true.

[Jimbuna]

:salute: Meduza! (Stupid me! I meant JIMBUNA)
p.s. I am getting older and my mind is not always working 100%, sorry for the name mistake! :yep:

LOL no problem mate :DL



I'll get it now. My brains are working again :up:

FYI

Don't forget that I am a heart patient since 1984 and my by-passes are now 20 years old and clogged again (open heart operation on 2 August 1989). And still too much medications.

For me, subsim.com is a great place to be. I lie in bed with my laptop and it's a perfect alternative if you cannot do anything more in life.

Thanks guys! :yep: It is 100% true.

You look after yourself matey http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/thumbsup.gif

[Rafael]

@Jim, I am lucky, my wife takes good care of me! But I still live by the day. And I am very happy that I found SH3 and subsim.com ... plus all those wonderful people around here! :yeah:

[Jimbuna]

@Jim, I am lucky, my wife takes good care of me! But I still live by the day. And I am very happy that I found SH3 and subsim.com ... plus all those wonderful people around here! :yeah:

Pleased to hear it....the love and care of a good women is always a gift to treasure :yeah:

[meduza]

I've been thinking about what you've said about compressed air. I've noticed that sometimes when you surface you spend a bit of air (which is realistic I suppose), and sometimes you don't. This led me to a conclusion that the instrument does not show the whole amount of air, i.e. that there is more than it is shown.
So, when the air supply is full, the scale won't show when it drops, until it drops enough to reach the range of the instrument. I hope this make any sense :hmmm:?
Anyone noticed that?
I don't have malfunctions turned on in commander.


Don't forget that I am a heart patient since 1984 and my by-passes are now 20 years old and clogged again (open heart operation on 2 August 1989). And still too much medications.

For me, subsim.com is a great place to be. I lie in bed with my laptop and it's a perfect alternative if you cannot do anything more in life.

You're right. Not many forums have so kind and helpful people as we do on subsim.
Take care, mate! :up:

:salute: Meduza! (Stupid me! I meant JIMBUNA)

p.s. I am getting older and my mind is not always working 100%, sorry for the name mistake! :yep:
:D

[Rafael]

I've been thinking about what you've said about compressed air. I've noticed that sometimes when you surface you spend a bit of air (which is realistic I suppose), and sometimes you don't. This led me to a conclusion that the instrument does not show the whole amount of air, i.e. that there is more than it is shown.
So, when the air supply is full, the scale won't show when it drops, until it drops enough to reach the range of the instrument. I hope this make any sense :hmmm:?
Anyone noticed that?
I don't have malfunctions turned on in commander.


You're right. Not many forums have so kind and helpful people as we do on subsim.
Take care, mate! :up:


:D

Hello Jimbuna! (just kidding Meduza) :rotfl:

At the moment I am playing (alt+tab) and writing here. And right now with a new Commander and new U-Boat VIIC in July 1940. I have compressed air problems AGAIN!

I never had this when malfunctions + sabotage was unchecked.

BTW It makes no sense that there is more compressed air then it shows? :damn:

[meduza]

Hello Jimbuna! (just kidding Meduza) :rotfl:
:haha:

BTW It makes no sense that there is more compressed air then it shows? :damn:
I agree, it realy makes no sense. :hmmm:

But, you can do an experiment. Make sure you have your compressed air supply full. Perform several consecutive dive and surface maneuvers, without any pause between them (i.e. go to periscope depth, surface, go to periscope depth, surface...).
Monitor the amount of compressed air. First few times you surface, the amount stays the same. After that, it drops each time you surface. :hmmm:

I don't know how to explain this, order than the scale doesn't show full air supply.

[Rafael]

:haha:


I agree, it realy makes no sense. :hmmm:

But, you can do an experiment. Make sure you have your compressed air supply full. Perform several consecutive dive and surface maneuvers, without any pause between them (i.e. go to periscope depth, surface, go to periscope depth, surface...).
Monitor the amount of compressed air. First few times you surface, the amount stays the same. After that, it drops each time you surface. :hmmm:

I don't know how to explain this, order than the scale doesn't show full air supply.

I did that exactly as you wrote it down, I had the same feeling. And it depends, sometimes the compressed air goes as my image (down below) shows between 6 and 5. After that I surface and my compressed air is low ... Furthermore, it takes even more then one hour before it is full again? And I speak compressed air between 6 and level 5. CO2 is with in couple of minutes OK.

On the other hand, there are times when I am submerged and nothing is happening? Only CO2 is getting low and of course the batteries.
This is a real mystery for me! http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa51/smokesigs/Smilies/sherlock.gif

Maybe because I use the OLC "Gold" MkII mod, and/or use the malfunction and sabotage in SH3 Commander together.

Maybe someone else on this forum kows the reason?

BTW When I crash dive it's the same ... I tried it in NYGM, almost all compressed air was gone!

Bed time now ... 3.18 AM here in Holland.

[Jimbuna]

In RL, vessels have at least two storage tanks for compressed air.....the main storage and a secondary tank.

When compressed air is called upon to perform a task, the air is drawn from the main storage, which is compensated from the secondary as it is being used/drawn.

Only when the main storage is empty would the guage drop, it would then rise again as the compressor feeds the secondary which in turn replenishes the main tank.

That is how it worked in RL and is replicated in game. This is my understanding anyway.

[meduza]

@Rafael
I don't know mate, maybe it's because of the malfunctions in SH3Commander. Hope someone will give you a better answer.

@jimbuna
It does make sense. :yep:

[Rafael]

A new image:

I submerged at approx. 00.11 hours and surfaced approx. 9 hours later and the result is no problems with compressed air now?

Battery is below 50%, still enough C02. Compressed air 100%!

Mystery or not? :hmmm:

[vorosgy]

Rafael,
it seems to me that you think that compressed air is for breathing, but it is for surfacing the boat (especially if the engines are in "all stop").

[Rafael]

Rafael,
it seems to me that you think that compressed air is for breathing, but it is for surfacing the boat (especially if the engines are in "all stop").

No Vorosgy, I understand compressed air (CO2 is for breathing), I knew that. Compressed air will sink if you use "AUSBLASEN", but I did not do that.

I suppose it has to do with SH3 Commander and my malfunctions in combination with sabotage. However I am unable to test it at the moment. I have to start a new patrol and disable this function in SH3 Commander.

Anyway thanks for thinking with me!:salute: