guide or faqs for uboat manual targeting?

[green_abobo]

hello. kinda new to the site here. just started a uboat campaign for the heck of it. (sh4 gold edition,patched to 1.5 stock game except for das boot voices) are there any guides, or faqs, or vids, or links for the uboat's manual targeting procedures? i see similarities between the u.s. and the germans. but i can tell right away,its different because there's no position keeper, etc... and it seems a little confusing at first,especially the torpedo stations,and different types of torpedoes, etc. any help is appreciated.

[captgeo]

you have to run manuel targeting from the attack map in a U-Boat, and hello again, are you following me around.....lol :salute:

[green_abobo]

hi there. yes, i am learning that it is more effective that way. i especially like the salvo controls, something the fleet boats are lacking.

[karamazovnew]

Manual targeting for Uboats in SH4? pffff.... You're in for a world of hurt friend. Not because the german tactic and TDC are harder to understand. It's actually more natural than using the PK since you're always in control of your solution. But they're harder to use in SH4's interface, since the Uboat expansion was more of an afterthought from the devs. All the info you need can be found on SH3's threads. Try this link http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=96026 and make sure to check Wazoos manual. I think it's still the reference on german attacks.

IMHO salvos spread angles are useless for germans since they can link the periscope to the torpedo solution automatically, but badly needed for US boats running with PK on.

[green_abobo]

Manual targeting for Uboats in SH4? pffff.... You're in for a world of hurt friend. they're harder to use in SH4's interface, since the Uboat expansion was more of an afterthought from the devs.
IMHO salvos spread angles are useless for germans since they can link the periscope to the torpedo solution automatically, but badly needed for US boats running with PK on.

why am i in a world of hurt? i dont quite follow what you're saying. the interface works ok,and i have never played sh3,so i cant compare the two, ignorance can be bliss in this case. could you please reiterate exactly what you mean and break it down,assuming i don't know as much as you do.

what does IMHO mean? i'm no hard core boat captain by any means.

as far as comparing uboats to fleet boats,i have noticed a few other differences besides the PK. i have also witnessed strange behavior on the T,whatever torpedoes the my uboat is currently utilizing. sometimes they detonate before they even make conatct with the conatct.i see in the description of the one type of torp,that it is known to have problems with their "teething",is this what thats talking about?

furthermore,in the fleet boats using manual targeting,any salvos you do fire have to be done torp by torp. the uboats do it for you in one shot,all you have to worry about are the individual torp settings and the spread you use for them. is that what you mean by badly needed, assuming you were comparing fleets to u's? i do also notice a slight sonar/periscope functionality w/ the advantage going to the fleet boats. thanks again and i appreciate the help and advice. :yep:

[Rockin Robbins]

In my Dick O'Kane and Fast-90 tutorial, linked in my signature, the Fast-90 part is for U-Boats. There you'll learn an easy way to target with deadly accuracy and ease without a lot of hocus-pocus.

The attack map TDC controls work perfectly with no problems at all. They are no more inconvenient than working fleet boat TDC controls. They are different, which to some, means worse.

At least you are new, so you have no bad habits to unlearn. It's very difficult for the experienced fleet boat jockey to conceptualize the German TDC, as it it equally difficult for experienced U-Boat sailors to wrap their brains around the American monstrosity. Each tries to judge the other by what they are used to. Let the U-Boat be the U-Boat and the fleet boat be the fleet boat. There are plenty of reasons to love and be frustrated with both!:up:

[karamazovnew]

:har: Only now I realised that we ere talking about the same thing in 2 threads, this one and http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=143574. Well Green, I've answered your question there.
About the torpedoes. Premature detonations can occur anytime. If you use magnetic detonators, you need to be well inside 1000 yards. Here's what I use: mark 10 torpedoes (US) for until late 42 (by then I have enough torpedoe experts on the sub to reduce duds), and electric torpedoes on german boats for the entire war. I put them at minimum depth and always on impact detonator. Of course, dealing with destroyers means firing very close and using magnetic (then pray).

[green_abobo]

[quote=karamazovnew;1140413]:har: Only now I realised that we ere talking about the same thing in 2 threads, this one and http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=143574. quote]

yep,and to believe they let me captian a submarine. good to know we're both looking at the same threads anyway. great minds think alike. although mine's always been scatter-brained. then there's my attention span....which is why i dislike flipping from one thread to another. i'll figure it out someday.

well,glad i made you laugh anyway.

oh,and disregard my asking you about torpedo preference,as that same question lurks elsewhere on this forum...

thanks again.

[green_abobo]

[quote=karamazovnew;1140413] Premature detonations can occur anytime. quote]


i hate it when that happens....:nope:

i cant quote for crap,lol.

[green_abobo]

In my Dick O'Kane and Fast-90 tutorial, linked in my signature, the Fast-90 part is for U-Boats. There you'll learn an easy way to target with deadly accuracy and ease without a lot of hocus-pocus.

The attack map TDC controls work perfectly with no problems at all. They are no more inconvenient than working fleet boat TDC controls. They are different, which to some, means worse.

At least you are new, so you have no bad habits to unlearn. It's very difficult for the experienced fleet boat jockey to conceptualize the German TDC, as it it equally difficult for experienced U-Boat sailors to wrap their brains around the American monstrosity. Each tries to judge the other by what they are used to. Let the U-Boat be the U-Boat and the fleet boat be the fleet boat. There are plenty of reasons to love and be frustrated with both!:up:

thanks. hopefully this will help. so i'm guessin this is easier to do w/ uboats than with fleet boats? excellent.

[Rockin Robbins]

No, not easier, different! They are both fascinating pieces of machinery that work splendidly.