View Full Version : Firs Patrol Done, But with Problems (need help please!)
Ok finally I finished my first patrol with a average succes with my type IIA, I really enjoyed that patrol because I sunk 2 British merchants for 15323 tons i reported this, then I received return to base message, so I headed to Kiel and finished my 1. patrol docked at Kiel went to my office but there was no tonnage recorded on patrol log book ! and I checked the aces list:
Me: 0 tons!
and also Renown: 0
but I sunk two British merchants whats happening? Why my sunk ships doesn't confirmed as real kills? And where is my renown I am playing with GWX 3.0 with %100 Realism and the merchants are totally enemy not natural when I sunk them they marked as red on my nav. map! Please can somebody tell me what is happening ???
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Hanomag
07-23-09, 10:02 AM
I can only guess... is it possible that the rough seas stole your credit? Was it calm or stormy? Did you watch the ships sink? :hmmm:
I can only guess... is it possible that the rough seas stole your credit? Was it calm or stormy? Did you watch the ships sink? :hmmm:
yes sea was really rough but I wached them and you can see the pictures that I posted above but something is wrong as you can see I really dont understand even I sunk 2. merchant under heavy fog without any visual contact...
I don't know for sure if this is the cause of the no renown issue. But did you start in august '39. The english do not become enemy before a day or so in september. You would probably be lucky if those kills were not 'credited' to you in august. As you would have violated the rules of engagement. Are you sure it was an enemy? What flag did it carry? Doesn't every ship sunk show up with a red icon on the map?
Hanomag
07-23-09, 10:28 AM
Oh boy... I am sorry. This was your 1st patrol.
Did you make any upgrades before you left port? There is a bug that if you do (make upgrades), you are creditless for any kills that mission.
Didnt see the screenies 1st time around my bad.
I don't know for sure if this is the cause of the no renown issue. But did you start in august '39. The English do not become enemy before a day or so in September. You would probably be lucky if those kills were not 'credited' to you in august. As you would have violated the rules of engagement. Are you sure it was an enemy? What flag did it carry? Doesn't every ship sunk show up with a red icon on the map?
you can see the ships at pictures they were carrying British merchant flags and you can see the sunk dates and record on my patrol log book they were valid British enemy merchants and they marked as red on my nav. map...
JohnnyBlaze
07-23-09, 10:32 AM
Sorry to hear that :-?
Maybe you made some modifications to your sub before the first patrol?
I've heard that that can cause some problems with the renown earned :down:
edit: I need to practice my fast typing
Oh boy... I am sorry. This was your 1st patrol.
Did you make any upgrades before you left port? There is a bug that if you do (make upgrades), you are creditless for any kills that mission.
Didnt see the screenies 1st time around my bad.
No its my fault, I am sorry I posted those pictures after your post sorry for this :) so you are saying there was an upgrade bug but I didn't do any upgrade to my boat...
Sorry to hear that :-?
Maybe you made some modifications to your sub before the first patrol?
I've heard that that can cause some problems with the renown earned :down:
edit: I need to practice my fast typing
No I am totally sure I didn't made any changes or modifications on my boat before my 1. patrol :(
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This really sucks :down: First my saves gone, now I started a new career and I can't get any renown...
danlisa
07-23-09, 10:39 AM
.....so you are saying there was an upgrade bug but I didn't do any upgrade to my boat...
Not just Upgrades but Crew assignments too.
For your very first patrol in any new career it is best to just load straight into the game and then exit immediately. If you use SH3 Commander you can set your Days in Base to 1 to minimize the impact of this.
This bug only affects your first patrol and all other should be fine.
Not just Upgrades but Crew assignments too.
For your very first patrol in any new career it is best to just load straight into the game and then exit immediately. If you use SH3 Commander you can set your Days in Base to 1 to minimize the impact of this.
This bug only affects your first patrol and all other should be fine.
awww that is not a good thing to hear but I think you are right danlisa I enlisted new crew on my boat I am really demoralized now...
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now I remember is conning tower emblems counted as modifications ?? if so I did one because I have a Lachen Sawfish emblem on my tower and I enlisted new crew too... so I am really aggressive now Bdu ?!?!
danlisa
07-23-09, 10:47 AM
....I really demoralised now...
Don't be. It was only your first patrol, there are many more to come.:up:
Also, if you really want the Renown, you can manually add it to your record by editing the Patrol_0.cfg file found in your save folder in My Documents. Edit the Delta Renown value at the end of the file and you will have that amount when you reload.....;)
Don't be. It was only your first patrol, there are many more to come.:up:
Also, if you really want the Renown, you can manually add it to your record by editing the Patrol_0.cfg file found in your save folder in My Documents. Edit the Delta Renown value at the end of the file and you will have that amount when you reload.....;)
hehe nice idea, i thought about that, but sound like cheating to me I just want to command a type VIIB/C as soon as possible because I really obsessed on these boats I don't know why but I love them so much...
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and thanks for your attention and help dear Kaleuns
Melonfish
07-23-09, 10:55 AM
i get this bug from time to time, really frustrating when your opening patrol nets you 57000grt! :damn::damn::damn:
however, what i tend to do now, is take my boat out of the harbour, turn her round and head home, then go out straight away again.
this clears the first patrol (and thus the bug with 0 tonnage) and allows you to sneak in a quick Qualification on one of your chaps :D
i usually put it down as sea trials or naff engines or sommat in me logs!
love the Type II myself you know, plucky little boat, you really take a shine to em when your first out hitting with very limited torpedo stocks, lining up those shots carefully so as to not waste any precious torps.
when you get to a type VII you'll happily shoot off torps at the rate of knots (pardon the pun) cause you feel like your torpedo tubes are belt fed!:haha:
love the Type II myself you know, plucky little boat, you really take a shine to em when your first out hitting with very limited torpedo stocks, lining up those shots carefully so as to not waste any precious torps.
when you get to a type VII you'll happily shoot off torps at the rate of knots (pardon the pun) cause you feel like your torpedo tubes are belt fed!:haha:
hehehe I agree with you, yes I like my IIA but I don't know may be you are right staying in a IIA can be good for first times then when I get my VIIB/C I feel like my tubes are belt fed (agree with you again :D) mg G7a :rock:
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Good news :) It is OK now, I loaded my last save and continued from that save I docked to Kiel again and the result is:
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Bent Periscope
07-23-09, 08:42 PM
Congratulations on your success, too bad you didn't receive the credit.
awww that is not a good thing to hear but I think you are right danlisa I enlisted new crew on my boat I am really demoralized now...
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now I remember is conning tower emblems counted as modifications ?? if so I did one because I have a Lachen Sawfish emblem on my tower and I enlisted new crew too... so I am really aggressive now Bdu ?!?!
If you want new crew members before your 1st patrol pick the ones who have a renown value of 0. I do this frequently & haven't had any problems with that bug (to date).
Good news :) It is OK now, I loaded my last save and continued from that save I docked to Kiel again and the resul is:
So you went back to a save that was just before entering port, but after the sinking of those 2 vessels? That suggest the effects of that bug (loss of renown through crew/equipment changes) can be solved by just going back to a save AFTER you entered port. No need to redo the whole patrol then, it seems.
So you went back to a save that was just before entering port, but after the sinking of those 2 vessels? That suggest the effects of that bug (loss of renown through crew/equipment changes) can be solved by just going back to a save AFTER you entered port. No need to redo the whole patrol then, it seems.
exactly, it works if you have a this kind of problem you can get rid of it by using your last save before docking I was lucky I saved my game 60 Km. to Kiel so I loaded that save and docked to Kiel again :up:
Congratulations on your success, too bad you didn't receive the credit.
Thank you :salute: but I get my renown that I deserved with a simple save-load action :up:
If you want new crew members before your 1st patrol pick the ones who have a renown value of 0. I do this frequently & haven't had any problems with that bug (to date).
yes I choose my crew from renown free ones but I don't know it happened may be it was because of the conning tower emblem or may be the crew but my crew was totally renown free so problem is solved I get my renown and tonnage back :up: and headed for 2. patrol AN 81 :salute: wish me luck :DL
Melonfish
07-24-09, 05:04 AM
good hunting!
exactly, it works if you have a this kind of problem you can get rid of it by using your last save before docking I was lucky I saved my game 60 Km. to Kiel so I loaded that save and docked to Kiel again :up:Cool, afaik nobody ever came up with it before. This one is a keeper! Well done.
I noticed that you sunk your first ship was sunk at 09:09 and the 2nd was 09:45. I am always a little bit confussed by when I should start attacking at the start.
Even with BST this was before a state of war existed between the GB and Germany.
I noticed that British Ports turn red just after Midnight on the 3rd.
I normally receive a message before 10am UTC saying that British Ships are valid targets.
Normally in the afternoon/evening I get the message saying that war has been declared.
Which is my que to go ahead and attack shipping. I have been lucky so far as my first kill has only ever been early hours on the 4th.
1st Ship sunk @ September 3, 09.45
2nd Ship sunk @ September 9, 1939 09.09 :|\\
when I sunk first merchant the war was already declared and the British merchants were valid targets but that was happened day time @ September 3 not midnight :hmmm: and didn't hesitate to sunk first victim...
Cool, afaik nobody ever came up with it before. This one is a keeper! Well done.
Thanks Pisces :salute:
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