No such thing as "Neutral" convoys anymore!!

[ddiplock]

Either someone at BDU has made a glorious cockup, or someone is disseminating false reports out to the uboats. I recieved a report of a large Neutral convoy heading my way, and since they are neutral, I normally ignore such reports.

But tonight, for some reason, my interest was piqued and I plotted a rough course. Amid rain and heavy fog I found myself accidently AMONG the convoy and fired upon....neutral "my stern tubes" to borrow I phrase I heard someone use here!! :arrgh!:

The convoy had one Greek ship in it, the rest from what I could see were a mix of primarily BRITISH and a few AUSTRALIAN ships. This was a "neutral" convoy full of enemy ships!!! After a light depth charging in the shallow waters, of which U100 survived unscathed despite being picked up a couple of times on the ASDIC, all was well and I sailed away.

However, from now on, I think in future all so called "Neutral" convoys that are reported in my area will be treated first and foremost as an enemy convoy, until neutrality can be verified.

Does anyone else prosecute neutral convoys at all?

[Ford Prefect]

It's caused by how the game builds convoys, there is one central ship around which all others are anchored, if this ship is neutral the convoy counts as neutral even if it's the only neutral ship there.
For this reason I always investigate all convoy reports.

[DaveU186]

Personally, if they're being escorted by the enemy, they're going down whatever flag they're flying.

:arrgh!:

[ddiplock]

Personally, if they're being escorted by the enemy, they're going down whatever flag they're flying.

:arrgh!:

Yeah, I was quite shocked to be honest. But in future, I shall intercept all convoys, neutral or otherwise :) There were some real beuts in this convoy too, tankers, whaling ships....if only I'd known before hand!!! Could've racked up some serious tonnage there.

next time....next time....:arrgh!:

[Kpt. Weyprecht]

After all, if they really were Neutral, they wold have no need to form escorted convoys since noone makes war on them, right? So if they do form a convoy, ther are in war? So, Tubes one to five ready!

[TarJak]

Convoys and Task Forces are defined by the lead element (ship) in the convoy. This is simply the first ship in the convoy list. It does not mean that the rest of the convoy are the same.

[Melonfish]

well if i ever come accross a convoy, neutral or no i'll investigate, i didn't realise the game did that with the "central ship" thing.
hell that just means they're trying to sneak valuable war materials through our brave ubootsmen!

[BulSoldier]

It is my general rule that if a ship (netural or otherwise) is escorted by enemy naval units it is treated as hostile ship.It doesnt matter is it in convoy or it is one merch and one escort.

[PhantomLord]

It is my general rule that if a ship (netural or otherwise) is escorted by enemy naval units it is treated as hostile ship.It doesnt matter is it in convoy or it is one merch and one escort.

That´s exactly the way to go.
BdU says (ingame and in real life): if neutrals are in enemy convoys... sink´em! :D

[ddiplock]

That´s exactly the way to go.
BdU says (ingame and in real life): if neutrals are in enemy convoys... sink´em! :D

Yeah but if you DO sink a neutral in convoy in the game, i'm pretty sure you'll lose renown for it. lol :(

But I am eager to get playing tonight ,hoping for some Neutral convoy reports. heheh, I always get more Neutral reports than enemy reports and I've always ignored them....no more. :D

[ddiplock]

Oh that is just total sods law!!!! i'm ahead of a "Neutral" convoy, and a bloomin large one at that and moving into attack position and what happend???

BLOODY CTD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :damn:

That the only way the AI can beat my uboat??? :shifty: :doh:

[PhantomLord]

Yeah but if you DO sink a neutral in convoy in the game, i'm pretty sure you'll lose renown for it. lol :(

Yeah right... but the renown for all the other convoy ships will compensate that pretty quick i think :DL

[BulSoldier]

Neutral sinking penalty isnt that big, but they still add to your tonnage score :arrgh!:

[Melonfish]

thats it, nothings neutral anymore! :arrgh!:

[Brag]

I hate neutral convoys with nothing but neutrals.:O:

[HW3]

Convoys and Task Forces are defined by the lead element (ship) in the convoy. This is simply the first ship in the convoy list. It does not mean that the rest of the convoy are the same.

For convoys, this ship will be the center ship in the front row.:yep:

[Torp III]

Yep, I agree 100%. Butt what really gets my goat is when I get a radio message saying " Neutral Warship" at a such and such place. Talk about oxymoran. Who is the moran that sent that oxy!:doh:

[Bent Periscope]

Neutral ships shouldn't be in a convoy. I don't trust them plus its not like we can surface and ask for their papers with the enemy around. Also, at night time,are they going to run their lights an let us know where the rest of the convoy is headed - doubtful.