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Schroeder
07-15-09, 01:37 PM
On a foggy and stormy evening in January 1940 U 36 was travelling through the straight between the Hebrides and the Scottish coast. Due to the horrible weather Kaptln Schroeder decided to dive to 60m to listen around while continuing the journey. During a rare phase of high TC U36 was all of a sudden and without warning hit by something. The radio and hydrophone operators were dead on the spot (at least the Kaleun believes so because the game didn't drop out of TC until U36 hit the bottom at 120m) and some minor flooding and other damages were reported throughout the boat.
Now I wonder what hit me. A mine in 60m depth? First I think I was to deep for one and second a mine should send my boat to the bottom in a one way fashion. My damage was rather minor except for the two destroyed periscopes:dead: and my first dead crewmen ever :damn:(although their compartment only took very light damage and no flooding so what the hell has killed them?).
My sonarman didn't report any contacts and I highly doubt the RAF had shown up in the middle of a foggy night to bomb a stealthy sub at 60m depth.

My only suggestion is that Bernanrd was the cook on my boat and gave some some food to the radio compartment crew that wasn't ok to eat anymore. That gave the men so much gas that they finally exploded. This caused their death and the damage throughout the boat. Case closed.

And now seriously: What has hit me and why doesn't the TC drop out until it is too late???:wah:
If it had been deeper I had dived straight to Oblivion without even realising that something had happened!!!:nope:

BTW after the repairs U36 surfaced again and sank a small freighter with her deck gun on her way home.

Task Force
07-15-09, 01:46 PM
So Im getting you slammed into the bottom... hitting the bottom is a good way to distroy your hull, and if you are sitting on the bottom, and are running even slow, you will distroy your hull.:yep:

and im pretty sure that that area is mined...

and if anyone is gonna die, it is gonna be your radio/sonar man... Ive found out...

Schroeder
07-15-09, 01:47 PM
I was at 60m depth. Then I hit something or something hit me and THEN I went down to 120m and hit the bottom without being able to react because the TC was still running at 512x.

Task Force
07-15-09, 01:52 PM
hmm... could have been a misplaced subnet...

cause if it was a mine... you would have heard an loud explotion...

There were no sunk ships in the region...


Did you check your debth under keel, when in shallow areas do it often ive found...

I had a incident in sh4 where I hit the bottom while under water because of a area that went from 180feet to 30ft and then to 180 again, it was a almost like an underwater arrowlike thing of sand that was in the middle of the ocean.:hmmm:

any mods.

Task Force
07-15-09, 02:05 PM
Heres what happend...
http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/889/96887116.jpg
:rotfl:

Schroeder
07-15-09, 02:10 PM
If I had run aground I wouldn't have have dropped down 60m after that, right?;)

Task Force
07-15-09, 02:17 PM
yes, but these can be at 60 m, but since the top is pointed, you only hit it and slid down off, in the end, it could have been anything... couldnt be a whale, cause you would have gotten a contact report... did what you hit make an explotion, or just a loud bang... and what were you doing beforeall this happend... had you loaded a save or anything...

this could have just been a random thing, that just happed, and you hit nothing.

Ford Prefect
07-15-09, 02:40 PM
I have my own theories:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/matt64/Strangeencounter.jpg


It was clearly an encounter with the lesser spotted british godzilla :O:

Task Force
07-15-09, 02:45 PM
yep, It was Godzillia.:rotfl:

Pisces
07-15-09, 05:28 PM
Or a cousin of Nessie maybe.

Ford Prefect
07-15-09, 06:13 PM
Or a cousin of Nessie maybe.

just substitute "och aye the nooo" over my godzilla speach bubble :haha:

Lt.Fillipidis
07-15-09, 06:49 PM
Hmm...
Theory No.1 is a no go since the SH3 sea bed is as flat as the surface in a shiny, 0wind day. The only thing changing its shape would be the uboat.

Theory No.2 is somewhat acceptable since you were in the middle of a minefield. Note that the mines have the bad habit to spawn out of the bottom rather than being dropped by surface ships.

My personal theory and the most reasonable i suppose is that the Catafark is somehow involved to this mystery. I dont know how or when but i just know it is that! :doh:

Ford Prefect
07-15-09, 07:17 PM
you could solve this issue by opening the main game files in the mission editor, finding the area you were in, if there is a mine field there you can check the depths of the mines with in it.



Hmm...
Theory No.1 is a no go since the SH3 sea bed is as flat as the surface in a shiny, 0wind day. The only thing changing its shape would be the uboat.



out away from the coast it's flat aye, but close in around scotland I've seen plenty of undulations in the sea floor and nearly ran aground myself.

Kpt. Lehmann
07-16-09, 02:22 AM
I agree with Ford Prefect. It had to be Gozilla. :|\\

cuthy2k
07-16-09, 09:12 AM
Had this previously.

Both sonar and radio men deid as a dodo and no explaination.

Been told by some SH3 vets that this is a known bug that only affects the one compartment. Sure there is a couple of threads somewhere explaining in more detail.

I prefer the nessie scenario to be honest. A sea monster sounds better than a bug! :up:

Ford Prefect
07-16-09, 09:21 AM
well I checked the mission editor and of all the mine fields I checked none went deeper than 50 metres. So at 60 metres you should have been safe.

So it's definitely godzilla/nessie! :D

DaveU186
07-16-09, 09:24 AM
A smooth criminal.

Ford Prefect
07-16-09, 09:25 AM
MJ was buried at sea? :O:

Schroeder
07-16-09, 09:37 AM
I have a feeling that this is a bug with TC. When I was new to SH III I had the same problem a couple of times. All cases had one thing in common: High TC.

Since I read somewhere that high TC is somewhat cheating because of the lower chance to be spotted by aircraft I started to play with a max of 128 at day and 256 at night (no planes around at 1940:D). It had been foggy for weeks and I spend most of the time at 60m to listen around. I've been travelling the waters submerged at 60m for days at 256 (with breaks for resupplying with oxygen and recharging the batteries of course) without incident and it wasn't until I went up to 512 that something happened. :hmm2:

Task Force
07-16-09, 01:28 PM
well. the thing i mentioned earlyer did happen, playing with sh4 and at 180ft at midway, hit the same thing I posted earlyer...

TigerShark808
07-16-09, 02:00 PM
Hmm...
Theory No.1 is a no go since the SH3 sea bed is as flat as the surface in a shiny, 0wind day.


Are you sure about that? I mean I have heard this before but It does not seem correct because I have taken many of readings while sailing, cruising along and have had the "Depth under keel" fluctuate up and down many times.
In fact around BF 55 51 I have had "depth under keel" read in this order while heading West..80 120 80 in that order one reading after the other. Not the exact readings but you get my point. I would have thought in that area the reading would have went from a shallower reading to a deeper reading and stay deeper as you head west. But it was not the case. There are place were there seems to be a rise in the floor bottom.


huummm :hmmm:

Task Force
07-16-09, 02:07 PM
I once had a reading of 180ft 150 ft 40ft 180ft in sh4.:yep:

Schroeder
07-16-09, 02:18 PM
SH III is not SH IV.;)
Yes, the depth changes but not so abruptly as that you can run against a upright seabed wall and sink then another 60m before you hit the flat bottom.

Task Force
07-16-09, 02:44 PM
I know that... Im just sayin that happend to me...

as for sh3 its a bug...