View Full Version : Bottled water ban big time in a rural Australian town
geetrue
07-09-09, 11:52 AM
Tap water is certainly in some of those bottles or just filtered water, but I love my Mountain Spring water. I put it in my coffee, in my kool aid and you can really tell the difference when you don't.
What did people drink before bottled water?
Isn't water in the beer and soda pop too?
Bottled water ban in Australia (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jJHM5xVSL3sMVdHsjAjvzB51XJtQD99APMVG0)
SYDNEY (AP) — Residents of a rural Australian town hoping to protect the earth and their wallets have voted to ban the sale of bottled water, the first community in the country — and possibly the world — to take such a drastic step in the growing backlash against the industry.
Residents of Bundanoon cheered after their near-unanimous approval of the measure at a town meeting Wednesday. It was the second blow to Australia's beverage industry in one day: Hours earlier, the New South Wales state premier banned all state departments and agencies from buying bottled water, calling it a waste of money and natural resources.
"I have never seen 350 Australians in the same room all agreeing to something," said Jon Dee, who helped spearhead the "Bundy on Tap" campaign in Bundanoon, a town of 2,500 about 100 miles (160 kilometers) south of Sydney. "It's time for people to realize they're being conned by the bottled water industry."
AVGWarhawk
07-09-09, 12:04 PM
They drank coke-a-cola:03: and other assorted soft drinks until someone came along and said how bad they are for you. You need at least a gallon of water a day for your health. Then a company hanging out by a river said, let's get on the bandwagon and bottle this stuff. Everyone wants it! Then the earth went into a huge global warming deal were these billion upon billions of empty plastic water bottles ruined the environment and started the global financial collapse that we are experiencing to day.
Stay thirsty my friend. :D
It all depends on the quality of tap water in your area.
My current water supply is from a local spring and is fair.
When I was last in Leeds City the water was horrible. I had to buy a filtering device.
Still, the only way I would ever go near bottled water is buying it in bulk.
A shop near me sells it in 25L tanks.
geetrue
07-09-09, 12:23 PM
The best water I have ever tasted was in New York straight from the fountain, but I hear that everyone says that due to the way they bring it in from upper state New York in those big concrete pipes.
You saw that movie right the one where they pretended to blow it up with Bruce Willis.
SteamWake
07-09-09, 12:27 PM
They drank coke-a-cola:03: and other assorted soft drinks until someone came along and said how bad they are for you. You need at least a gallon of water a day for your health. Then a company hanging out by a river said, let's get on the bandwagon and bottle this stuff. Everyone wants it! Then the earth went into a huge global warming deal were these billion upon billions of empty plastic water bottles ruined the environment and started the global financial collapse that we are experiencing to day.:D
Im with ya ! :har:
Buy a damn tap filter is all I can say.
I heard an ad for some thing they called the eco bottle. It was basically a canteen shaped like a bottled water bottle. Came with a filter too. Kind of cool.
What got me was their pitch proclaiming that plastic bottles are killing us "espically if left in a hot car" :rotfl:. Causes cancer they proclaim. I proclaim I aint drinkin no hot water :rock:
GoldenRivet
07-09-09, 12:30 PM
Install a filter system on your tap, bottle it, store it on ice or in the fridge... Just as good as any bottled product.
Task Force
07-09-09, 12:43 PM
water here is from the dismal swamp if im correct... tastes like chlorine.:yep: god knows whats in it...
I heard something about bottles that have been recycled... some chemical is in the plastic that gets in the water when it heats... can make you sick.
antikristuseke
07-09-09, 01:10 PM
Here tap water has stricter health standards than bottled water, it is allso a lot cheaper, guess which one I'm drinking.
CastleBravo
07-09-09, 01:22 PM
I was told by someone in the know that, on average, everytime you draw a drink from the tap it has been consumed eight times prior. I'm sure you can fill in the gaps. Pardon the pun.
Task Force
07-09-09, 01:27 PM
lol, yea, mine was probably used by a bird, err fish... lol
CastleBravo
07-09-09, 01:43 PM
lol, yea, mine was probably used by a bird, err fish... lol
He was talking about people, if you add in the birds fish and other beasts it probably jumps astronomically.
Task Force
07-09-09, 01:55 PM
Ill forget i heard that... lol
I was told by someone in the know that, on average, everytime you draw a drink from the tap it has been consumed eight times prior. I'm sure you can fill in the gaps. Pardon the pun.
Given the number of atoms in a pint of water, chances are that every time
you drink any water parts of it have been consumed by all manner of beast
and man at some time.
AVGWarhawk
07-09-09, 02:10 PM
Perhaps that accounts for the sodium content. :hmmm::D
Skybird
07-09-09, 02:23 PM
Over here tap water is said to be the best controlled food stuff of all. Quality varies regarding lime and chlorine, the latter making it taste bad. A simple water filter - not even a solid installation - cures both.
I always wondered why so many people here spend time, energy and money to buy bottled water. It is an artifical "need" that was artifically raised by the industry from the 80s on with a lot of advertising. A factual need for that has never been existent over here. Much of doing so is fashion only. But I heared that in some other Wetsern countries the taste of tap water is terrible, although the health quality is okay. A former colleague of my father was american, from Las Vegas. He said that there tap water had so much chlorine that it could be used to disinfect tooth brushes. :D
Task Force
07-09-09, 02:27 PM
yea, water taste varries here.:yep:
Coming back from our summer house at the moment. There we have a underground well from which the water is brought through pipes about 100m into the house. Height difference makes the water running without pumps. It's excellent quality, naturally filtered through sand. Always cool from the tap and not a hint of chlorine, or anything else. No need for bottled water when staying there. I should maybe bring some back to town next time. :yep:
The only downside is on dry summers, when you have to conserve water usage to drinking and cooking. But we have water for all other use from the lake as well, so it's no real problem.
cheers porphy
More than once I have met a marketing person who aspires to do for
previously unbranded product 'X' what bottling did for water.
I live near Scarborough, a town that takes a big lump of blaim for
starting expensive water marketing in the 1600s.
CastleBravo
07-09-09, 03:34 PM
Over here tap water is said to be the best controlled food stuff of all. Quality varies regarding lime and chlorine, the latter making it taste bad. A simple water filter - not even a solid installation - cures both.
That is odd. When I was in Germany and went out to a restaurant the server looked at me like she had never heard of tap water. I actually had to give her instructions on how to take a water glass, turn on the tap, wait twenty seconds, hold the glass under the tap, and then serve me what was deposited in the glass.
When it was finally served, without ice, I kept my mouth shut and figured I'd already done enough, without teaching how to make ice.
Task Force
07-09-09, 04:01 PM
:rotfl:˙ɹǝʇɐʍ ǝɔı ɟo ssɐןƃ ɐ ǝʞɐɯ oʇ ʍoɥ ʇno ǝɹnƃıɟ ʇupןnoɔ ʎǝɥʇ ןoן
Skybird
07-09-09, 04:05 PM
That is odd. When I was in Germany and went out to a restaurant the server looked at me like she had never heard of tap water. I actually had to give her instructions on how to take a water glass, turn on the tap, wait twenty seconds, hold the glass under the tap, and then serve me what was deposited in the glass.
When it was finally served, without ice, I kept my mouth shut and figured I'd already done enough, without teaching how to make ice.
It is absolutely uncommon to order tap water in a German restaurant. You're the first I heared of trying that.
CastleBravo
07-09-09, 04:15 PM
It is absolutely uncommon to order tap water in a German restaurant. You're the first I heared of trying that.
My alternative was...you guessed it, bottled water. And one of the folks with me said it was carbonated at that.
Now in Heidelberg, after visiting the schloss and walking back down the hill and thru the shopping district I came upon the Golden Arches of a McDonalds resaurant and decided to see what the differences were. The guy behind the counter spoke English and obviously picked up I was an American. When I ordered the Coca-Cola he asked if I waned ice. I smiled and answer yes.
We can talk about tipping in the future...:DL
Task Force
07-09-09, 04:18 PM
wow, you go to a restaruant and they dont know of a glass of water is, you go to a mc donalds, and you get a coke and ice...:o:rotfl:
antikristuseke
07-09-09, 04:19 PM
McDonalds a restoraunt?
DOES NOT COMPUTE!
Task Force
07-09-09, 04:23 PM
it is in the restaruant catagory... just not in the fancy restaruant catagory... or the normal restaruant catagory.... kind of the roadside slop house catagory.:yep:
Skybird
07-09-09, 04:26 PM
My alternative was...you guessed it, bottled water. And one of the folks with me said it was carbonated at that.
Now in Heidelberg, after visiting the schloss and walking back down the hill and thru the shopping district I came upon the Golden Arches of a McDonalds resaurant and decided to see what the differences were. The guy behind the counter spoke English and obviously picked up I was an American. When I ordered the Coca-Cola he asked if I waned ice. I smiled and answer yes.
We can talk about tipping in the future...:DL
Yes, but it simply is a cultural difference. If you order "water" in a german restaurant, you get bottled sparkling water. Tap water is simply absolutely uncommon here. I know that it is common in American restaurants - but this is not America. ;) In american restaurants you have to wait until you get seated by the waiter, I read, and see in movies. In German restaurants you just walk in and sit down wherever you want.
Do you pay for tap water in USrestaurants?
Task Force
07-09-09, 04:27 PM
Yes, but it simply is a cultural difference. If you order "water" in a german restaurant, you get bottled sparkling water. Tap water is simply absolutely uncommon here. I know that it is common in American restaurants - but this is not America. ;) In american restaurants you have to wait until you get seated by the waiter, I read, and see in movies. In German restaurants you just walk in and sit down wherever you want.
thats how it usualy works...:yep:
CastleBravo
07-09-09, 04:28 PM
I shouldn't be too hard on the Germans. my biggest culture shock came in January 1984. Stepping off the FinnAir flight in Moscow, the first three people I see are guys w/ AK-47s in the ready position and one has a dog with him.
Now that is culture shock!
CastleBravo
07-09-09, 04:31 PM
Yes, but it simply is a cultural difference. If you order "water" in a german restaurant, you get bottled sparkling water. Tap water is simply absolutely uncommon here. I know that it is common in American restaurants - but this is not America. ;) In american restaurants you have to wait until you get seated by the waiter, I read, and see in movies. In German restaurants you just walk in and sit down wherever you want.
Do you pay for tap water in USrestaurants?
Water isn't on the bill, but is certainly added into the cost of doing business somewhere. I just walked into the McDonalds, I waited to be seated at the other resaurant. Perhaps I was in bizzaro Germany?!!?:03:
Skybird
07-09-09, 04:34 PM
I shouldn't be too hard on the Germans. my biggest culture shock came in January 1984. Stepping off the FinnAir flight in Moscow, the first three people I see are guys w/ AK-47s in the ready position and one has a dog with him.
Now that is culture shock!
You never experienced "Transitverkehr" between West Germany and West Berlin, with VoPos (Volks-Polizisten, "people's policemen")having dogs and machine guns on the ready, holding 500 m long lines of cars in 6-12 parallel lines for 1-2 hours and the controler in his box often treating you like sh!t and talking like the mean Germans in Hollywood movies do.
To be fair, some of these guys just did their job correctly and within the limits of neutrality tried to be kind. They probably violated orders when behaving like that. But some others really used the opportunity and showed who was in control - these dwarfs fulfilled every clichée about the pedantic evil little German there is.
Task Force
07-09-09, 04:35 PM
we dont have to pay for water in most restaruants, but in some... you do... (usualy the fancy ones.)
Skybird
07-09-09, 04:38 PM
we dont have to pay for water in most restaruants, but in some... you do... (usualy the fancy ones.)
Maybe that is why it is not popular for German restaurants. Bottled water of course always has to be payed.
CastleBravo
07-09-09, 04:56 PM
You never experienced "Transitverkehr" between West Germany and West Berlin, with VoPos (Volks-Polizisten, "people's policemen")having dogs and machine guns on the ready, holding 500 m long lines of cars in 6-12 parallel lines for 1-2 hours and the controler in his box often treating you like sh!t and talking like the mean Germans in Hollywood movies do.
To be fair, some of these guys just did their job correctly and within the limits of neutrality tried to be kind. They probably violated orders when behaving like that. But some others really used the opportunity and showed who was in control - these dwarfs fulfilled every clichée about the pedantic evil little German there is.
All that sounds very foriegn to me. But coming from a country where armed soldiers were not common place among the civilian population, much less as greeters, you can imagine my suprise, as a 23 y.o.
Looking back now I'm sure they were just doing their job, and were probably being watched closely by people who were not overtly dangerous to us, but were to the guys in the jetway.
CastleBravo
07-09-09, 04:58 PM
Maybe that is why it is not popular for German restaurants. Bottled water of course always has to be payed.
Using your best English you should try ordering regular water, from the tap. let me know how it goes.
Cheers
CB
goldorak
07-09-09, 06:54 PM
Over here tap water is said to be the best controlled food stuff of all. Quality varies regarding lime and chlorine, the latter making it taste bad. A simple water filter - not even a solid installation - cures both.
I always wondered why so many people here spend time, energy and money to buy bottled water. It is an artifical "need" that was artifically raised by the industry from the 80s on with a lot of advertising. A factual need for that has never been existent over here. Much of doing so is fashion only. But I heared that in some other Wetsern countries the taste of tap water is terrible, although the health quality is okay. A former colleague of my father was american, from Las Vegas. He said that there tap water had so much chlorine that it could be used to disinfect tooth brushes. :D
Agree 100%.
Italians are some of the worst "bottle water" consumers in the entire world. Even when scientific studies have demonstrated that tap water is not in any way inferior to bottled water from a quality and health point of view.
Sometimes people look me wrong if a offer them a glass of water, with water taken from the tap instead of "bottled" water. :shifty:
The parliament some years ago even passed a law that banned bars from giving customers simple glass of water (0 cost if someone simply asked for a glass of water). Now they are required to give "bottled water" which of course costs much more. Can you guess which lobby pushed for this absurd law ?
Right so water in platic bottles bad, soft drink in plastic bottles good?:doh:
What a bunch of nambie pambies.
Jimbuna
07-10-09, 06:07 AM
Right so water in platic bottles bad, soft drink in plastic bottles good?:doh:
What a bunch of nambie pambies.
Don't be so harsh on yourselves :O:
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