View Full Version : Help deciding DiD
VirtualVikingX
07-07-09, 08:18 AM
Ok guys, need your "vote" on this, if I may be so bold. (Pun not intended)
I had my first IX-cruise last night. Successfull too. 3 Black Swans, 1 Destroyer, 2 Corvettes, 2 Small Freighters, 2 large cargos (I think....)
Anyway. Had about 50% hull dmg. Went deep, and precided to bathroom for personal hygiene before bed, after I had evaded the escorts. 1xTC.
When I came back things went bad. Tried to gain some "altitude", but to no avail. "Hull destroyed by pressure".
Thing is, I did not know of that danger when I popped out for a quick teeth-brush.
Please advise; DiD or savegame re-try?
Were you damaged previosly?
Did you hit the bottom?
What were the specifics of 'things going bad':shifty:
sharkbit
07-07-09, 08:35 AM
Dead. :dead:
You should have been aware of the damage to your boat.
Was the crew managemant screen showing flooding?
At slow speeds, you slowly sink. As the flooding gets worse, eventually flank speed won't even keep you from going down.
I had a similar experience.
I was damaged by aircraft and had some flooding. Some time had passed and I was on the surface. I felt it was safe to transfer some externals to the inside. I stopped on the surface, started the transfer and went to 64xTC. My boat slipped under pretty quick but was able to catch it and made it back up. I'm lucky i didn't go on a potty break.:88)
Bernard must have been the watch officer. When you meet him in hell(U-boat commanders don't go to heaven), whack him up side the head. :D
:)
Sorry to hear about your misfortune...
I vote for DiD.
First, because with 50% HI you couldn't go deeper than 120-140m. You didn't specify the year, but there is a great probability that you would have been detected and sank anyway. Especially in '43 or later.
Second, there's a pause key. :DL
VirtualVikingX
07-07-09, 08:49 AM
Were you damaged previosly?
Did you hit the bottom?
What were the specifics of 'things going bad':shifty:
Yep, during the voyage I hade gone down to 50 % hull dmg.
I did not hit the bottom.
Year is autum 1941.
No wabos, thats fore sure. But bolts were popping out and my men were dying! It felt very "Das-Boot-y". In hindsight I now know that I had gone too deep. I was at 145 meters.
The deepth was just randomly choosen. Bad move.... :down:
Laufen zum Ziel
07-07-09, 10:45 AM
You are D.I.D.
Sailor Steve
07-07-09, 11:20 AM
Dead.
It was the first patrol, so you didn't lose much.
VirtualVikingX
07-07-09, 12:26 PM
Dead. :dead:
You should have been aware of the damage to your boat.
Was the crew managemant screen showing flooding?
At slow speeds, you slowly sink. As the flooding gets worse, eventually flank speed won't even keep you from going down.
I had a similar experience.
I was damaged by aircraft and had some flooding. Some time had passed and I was on the surface. I felt it was safe to transfer some externals to the inside. I stopped on the surface, started the transfer and went to 64xTC. My boat slipped under pretty quick but was able to catch it and made it back up. I'm lucky i didn't go on a potty break.:88)
Bernard must have been the watch officer. When you meet him in hell(U-boat commanders don't go to heaven), whack him up side the head. :D
:)
No flooding. All good but the hull when I went away. I can feel a consensus on this matter though.
Hmm :cool: Thanks guys!
onelifecrisis
07-07-09, 04:33 PM
DID stands for "dead is dead". ;)
Ok guys, need your "vote" on this, if I may be so bold. (Pun not intended)
I had my first IX-cruise last night. Successfull too. 3 Black Swans, 1 Destroyer, 2 Corvettes, 2 Small Freighters, 2 large cargos (I think....)
Anyway. Had about 50% hull dmg. Went deep, and precided to bathroom for personal hygiene before bed, after I had evaded the escorts. 1xTC.
When I came back things went bad. Tried to gain some "altitude", but to no avail. "Hull destroyed by pressure".
Thing is, I did not know of that danger when I popped out for a quick teeth-brush.
Please advise; DiD or savegame re-try?
You are so like me n-careers before. You should ween yourself the habit of attacking escorts, it's bad for your health and for your tonnage. Better focus your torpedoes and fury on the big tankers and cargos. Learned to evade DDs instead of fighting them.
My opinion to your question, start another career. I loss better careers before.
Telgriff
07-07-09, 11:45 PM
Definately play DiD... for me it makes game play far more serious and intense, knowing that if I lose my uboat... its back to the training yard with a new Kaleun.
Sounds like you were flooding/flooded and were sinking.
I agree with BasilY - avoid hitting destroyers, aim for those nice big juicy tankers. Or armed trawlers to show them who's boss :up:
Though Bernard may also be lurking within your crew!
VirtualVikingX
07-08-09, 02:28 AM
You are so like me n-careers before. You should ween yourself the habit of attacking escorts, it's bad for your health and for your tonnage. Better focus your torpedoes and fury on the big tankers and cargos. Learned to evade DDs instead of fighting them.
My opinion to your question, start another career. I loss better careers before.
Yes, I know! But its to much fun! :arrgh!:
hmm everyone says DEAD but I have to ask: if you had been there, what would have happened? would you have noticed things going bad and immediately taken the right decisions to save the boat?
ah anyway, you just learned to crank up the volume and keep an eye/ear out. next time, you'll come running back in with your mouth full of toothpaste or your trousers half-down and your bottom unwiped (yes, been there), because your speakers treated you to the sound of bursting bolts and shattering class
you're dead!
Dead. And start a new patrol, hide (in SH3 Commander) your hull integrity! :yep:
mookiemookie
07-08-09, 09:30 AM
And remember to pause next time! Everything can go to sh*t way too easy and quickly if you don't. :cool:
sharkbit
07-08-09, 01:34 PM
Dead. And start a new patrol, hide (in SH3 Commander) your hull integrity! :yep:
With the hull integrity display, like a few things in SH3, there is no happy medium.
After first getting GWX and SH3Commander, I played with HI hidden but it never seemed right. Being damaged and not knowing how badly damaged seemed odd to me. U-boats didn't have a HI gauge in the control room that the engineer could look at, but he would at least have an idea on how damaged the boat is and whether it was safe to continue the patrol.
I play with it showing now. At least I can get an idea on how badly damaged I am. Unfortuneately it is at the other extreme. The information is too accurate.
It'd be nice to have a happy medium, like color code the HI somehow or something like that. I don't know if something like that is hard coded or not.
:)
VirtualVikingX
07-08-09, 01:48 PM
I agree with Sharky here.
U-boats didn't have a HI gauge in the control room that the engineer could look at, but he would at least have an idea on how damaged the boat is and whether it was safe to continue the patrol.
I play with it showing now. At least I can get an idea on how badly damaged I am. Unfortuneately it is at the other extreme. The information is too accurate.
It'd be nice to have a happy medium, like color code the HI somehow or something like that. I don't know if something like that is hard coded or not.
:)
Correct, true ... :03:
The only solution could be in SH5. I play without showing HI because a real commander would not know the HI ... he would know the way you are writing it. The engineer would inform the commander and give him at least some information.
Can this be modded?
Melonfish
07-09-09, 05:39 AM
if the skipper goes to the head and the boat crushes well then thats dead i'm afraid.
DID dude, i've had some propper heart wrenching losses, i hide my damage display so i'm always flicking through my screens to keep up to date with info. if i have to leave the desk i make sure i know whats going on. or in the case of screaming kids i will pause the thing.
pete
Wildhawke11
07-09-09, 09:20 AM
Your dead buddy :)
I am thinking of in the future if i run into something while at high compression to not call it DID because i am of course not playing in real time.
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